Ground Zero Mosque Supporters Beg Greedy, Lying, Human Rights Violating War Criminal to Join Their Crusade
**Written by Doug Powers
Byron York has a piece at the Washington Examiner about how supporters of the Ground Zero mosque are asking George W. Bush to show support for President Obama:
“It’s time for W. to weigh in,” writes the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd. Bush, Dowd explains, understands that “you can’t have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam.”
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Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an assist from Bush. “I…would love to hear from former President Bush on this issue,” Robinson wrote Tuesday in a Post chat session.
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And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also feeling some nostalgia for the former president. “Words I never thought I’d write: I pine for George W. Bush,” Beinart wrote Tuesday in The Daily Beast. “Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion.”
Are they asking the same George W. Bush who started an illegal and immoral war, lied about WMDs so his buddies could profit from the invasion and tortured exclusively Muslim detainees to come to the rescue of a president who was supposed to save America from all the horror Bush hath wrought? That’s fine, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.
I know many on the left support the mosque, but I didn’t expect some of them to sell their souls for it.
Either the Obama administration is losing its base or this has been the most successful billboard campaign ever:
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It is amazing you can sit there and deny your very own posts. Haven’t you ever heard of “cut and paste”?
If one percent of Muslim are fanatic, then how many will be attending this new mosque?
I would consider myself quite blessed if Rags would actually do that. As it stands, though, he starts out making a passive agressive statement, not really addressing me, wondering why anyone responds to me.
Then he spends several more posts responding to me.
Actually, Chaps, there are some excellent questions about “rights” to build the Cordoba House.
Ownership seems in question.
As does the original plan’s compliance with the project as projected.
Still, I can own land an not be able to build what I want on it.
Do you believe they want to build for the purposes they have pretended?
Frontier, it’s like Rush says. We need to keep a couple of leftys around to remind us how idiotic they are.
See, that is where you are confused. I didn’t say residents, I said Muslims near the proposed Mosque. Empty lots and empty buildings around the Mosque site lower the number of Muslims living in that area. Right?
And for what its worth, this is not a tangent. At the heart of this matter, at least for many here, is why they chose this spot to build their center. A large Muslim population living and working in the area woud be a HUGE, non-conspiratorial factor in that decision, wouldn’t it?
Of course, no one here is interested in anything but shadowy conspiracy theory.
Chaps, I wonder why people let you deflect, distract, and distort.
I seems you once had more integrity. It seems…
It’s not. ConEd owns one of the buildings but signed a long term lease whcih gives the holder the right to develop the property in any way. Even ConEd admits this.
It may lower the DENSITY but it does not lower the ACTUAL population, which has already been established as being about 300,000 (total residents, not just Muslims. Wouldn’t want you confusing the two again).
Technically, they have a “right” to build the mosque.
I also have the “right” to yell fire in a crowded theater.
Dubai Ports World had the “right” to buy P&O’s operations.
Wal-Mart has a “right” to build wherever they want, but that doesn’t stop opponents, does it?
All Wal-Mart neds to do is put a mosque in the front of each new store and then watch the zoning boards give them whatever they want.
You didn’t make any estimates of the Muslim population in lower Manhattan. You only reported the number of residents in lower Manahattan. Your Muslim number was for all of NYC. Thats why we go around in circles. You can not admit your confusion. You just want to argue to death and obfuscate.
I’ll ask again…
Do you believe they want to build for the purposes they have pretended?
Which is a hell of a lot more accurate measuring stick than the one you are proposing and continue to peddle, which incorporates Kansas and Alaska.
I can not have an exact number and still know the one you are using is absolutely worthless.
Note thats a question. See the ? mark. You replied to my post about 2000 Muslims in Lower Manhattan with the 600,000 muslim figure in NYC. I am asking you why you are confusing the 2. You are really all over the map here and making no sense.
I believe they are buiding it to serve the Muslim population of lower Manhattan, which anecdotally (according to many news accounts) apparently has a real dearth of options for worship.
Totally agree, you know very well had Wal-Mart had chosen that site for a store the NYC council would have declared the building historic and told Wal-Mart to take a hike. It is comical seeing the left argue freedom of religion and private property rights, I watched as my city council changed the rules mid debate to stop super wal-marts from opening in my city to appease the food worker’s union. Now it’s all about the Constitution, RIGHT!!!!
You weren’t asking me to clarify. You were claiming I was making contradictory statements. Which is why you cited both numbers one after the other followed it up with this:
Your denial of your simple mistake in reading comprehension is truly fascinating. And pathetic.
What about the whole “bridge building”, “cultural exchange” riff?
What are you thoughts on that?
If serving the muslim population of lower Manhattan is the goal, that is easily done…with VASTLY less provocation…a few blocks away.
Agreed?
I am talking about the density of the Muslim population near the Mosque, not the population of 300k residents in lower Manhattan. You are confusing the 2. You can live in Lower Manhattan and another Mosque might be closer. 300k people do not live within a couple of blocks of the proposed mosque. The point is that the proposed Mosque location is actually in a more industrial/commercial or vacant area due to ground zero.
I stopped engaging chap when he tried to argue with me that an investment in a company that has no equity (liabilities greater than assets) is worth something of value.
Argument for arguments sake, and totally useless information.
Which would also be handy for midday prayers, wouldn’t it?
Which you are still absolutely wrong about. Which even many other posters said you were wrong about. But keep trying.
Master Chef is on. Dinner ready. Gotta go. Been a hoot.
All right, thats what I was trying to find out. Not just taking the word of the Imam that they are building it to serve the Muslims in the area. I want to know how many people that would be as well as how many other facilities are already there for them. I want some transparency, not just glib comments or political propaganda.
No, I wasn’t. Thats why you are confused.
Words, just words T-bone.
Your denial of your
simple mistakeconfusion in reading comprehension is truly fascinating.But you want to play the game. So be it.
Chaps does this for adrenalin.
I know the type.
For me, the bottom line on the mosque is that the people behind it are obvious liars. There is evidence (to me) of Islamist influence and money.
Their refusal to talk to Paterson about an alternative site tells me all I need to know.
Mine was when he insisted that Obamacare was the only thing that was going to lower health care costs. He was arguing with a registered nurse here, calling (her or him) an idiot, and saying they were completely stupid, you know, Chap stuff. And Obamacare….CBO says no, it will raise costs. Chap is completely not worth reading or listening to. I skip it.
Be vewry, vewry careful GW!!
Remember how the democrats asked you to support “No Child Left Behind,” but then beat you over the head with it?!
Remember how the democrats screeched about Hussein’s WMDs (the dead Hussein)and voted for a military response to never ending Iraqi violations of never ending UN Security Council Resolutions, but then beat you over the head with it?!
Remember how democrats wouldn’t pass a Federal budget without your father’s commitment to new taxes, but then beat him over the head when he conceded to their request?!
Negotiating with democrats is a lot like playing football with Lucy Van Pelt.
If I were you, I wouldn’t pay a nickel for their hypocritical advice.
Beinart couldn’t resist but to take another stab at Bush. I don’t think Bush will weigh in, the democrats are desperate, the only thing that may energize their base is running against Bush again. Thanks Beinart for reminding us how weasely you in the left press are and helping to ensure Bush keeps quiet. Let the man retire in peace, you pos.
Chap, I have $115,000 in the stock market. I more than doubled it from $55,000. How much do you have in the market?
I guess you’re one of those people that believe that the money in your bank account is actually being held by the bank in it’s vault.
chapoutier is an educated lawyer. So he says. Sometimes he sounds smart, but since he’s a liberal, you know he has some type of mental instability (from 1:20 to 3:20 in the video).
Finally, a valid point that moves the discussion forward.
It would be handy and does address a need. Perhaps some calulations of the number of people needing to utilize a mosque for that can be done. For myself, I just don’t want to take the words of this Imam as being truthful. I want more information to determine how truthful he is. I think this is meant to be a victory mosque. I do not trust this Imam at all. Islam has a long way to go to get any of my trust.
Boy, is that spot on. Read my lips,be wary W.
Spot on.
It’s amazing to me that with each new situation that clearly shows what’s going on, you can always count on the left’s apologists to come in and defend the indefensible.
I’ve said it again and will say it now: the fact that you even have to argue with anyone over these types of issues is just evidence that we have two views of America that are simply unable to exist side-by-side without some kind of decisive conflict at some point down the road.
The whole conflict is exacerbated by folks who just feel driven to be contrarian because they are so utterly partisan they can’t stop themselves. They’ll be arguing with you even as we’re marched into the camps.
(The irony is that it is primarily conservative sites that even allow contrarian views to be discussed and the implications of that seem to be lost on the resident lefties that troll around here looking for something to naysay.)
Well, at least this’ll shut the mouths of those who oppose Glenn Beck’s celebration at the Lincoln Memorial. You know, take his rationale for why he’s doing it at face value and stop with all the “conspiracy” stuff. /sarc
Eminent Domain anyone!
Condemn the property and give it to some developers to develop tax generating commercial entity on the Cordoba site!
Liberals are passionate about snatching private properties in the name of greater good.
Both New York State and City are financially ruined, and could use some tax revenues from commercial development as opposed to a tax exempt monument.
70% of the Americans will be happy.
Developer could give campaign donations to Democrats. So politicians will be happy.
Muslims are unhappy barbarians for centuries, so they don’t count.
Win win for everyone else, though!
according to chappy, and the leftwing loons, the muslims are the only ones who have this right!!
I guess I missed all his posts in support of the RIGHT of st. nicholas to rebuild…yeah….
but I understand why the left supports this mosque…..fascists of a feather, flock together…
The difference in the treatment of Wal Mart and this mosque is also a glaring example of the leftist hatred that undermines any logic they may possess.
Wal Mart= bad evil capitalist
Ground Zero Mosque = our friends doing good deeds
Damn right T-Bone. Freedom to kill the unborn, but no freedom for Walmart to put a store at a particular site.
In Canada, they want prostitution and drugs to have less restriction than private health care.
This argument rests on the assumption that everyone who supports the Cordoba center also opposes Walmart construction, and vice-versa. That’s a pretty weak assumption, and it doesn’t take into account the myriad different locations where people have opposed building Walmarts, nor that unique arguments are presented for each location, but even if we assume it’s universally true, your argument exposes the Cordoba opponents’ inconsistency just as much as it does its supporters. Everyones’ opinions are based on circumstantial conditions, rather than a belief that any person or group has a legal right to construction at a given site as long as it squares with zoning laws.
What I find most interesting about this debate is that the conservative position is a straightforward emotional plea, and we all know what kind of person typically makes those kinds of arguments. You are not appealing to local zoning ordinances or the Constitution, you are essentially saying it doesn’t feel right to put an Islamic cultural center that close to ground zero. Public opinion polls have shown that people object to the construction even though they recognize the Imam’s constitutional right to do so. Emotional arguments can be very compelling in the arena of public opinion, but they don’t necessarily have a strong legal standing.
Lefties hate economic development and they love Islam, so it is a good comparison. You are being disingenuous if you pretend as though it is a differnt type of people who combat Walmart yet support the Mosque. It is all the Soros-funded left.
On the other hand, Kelo would imply that new York can take the property, and give it to a developer for a dollar a year to a developer who can increase municipal revenues. Strong legal standing, no emotion.
sorry for the garbled sentence…
I don’t agree. I believe the argument is the double standards of the left. Will the mosque be built, yes I think it will. Will it change my life, no. Do I really care? Kinda, but NYC has chosen its path and the residents there must live with their decisions.
You may not agree, but I think it is similar to the Wal-Mart bru-ha in my city. When it comes to zoning or construction money always trumps public opinion. I believe the public is getting tired of this. It is funny how lefties always complain about corporations, but totally ignore the way unions get their way (I don’t see a difference). I most certainly do not put it past the financiers of this mosque paying a little tribute to make sure things go smoothly. A victory mosque will be built, i’ll get used to it.
I hope the gay bar gets built next door. Watch the media freak out and totally melt down on who’s side they will try to be on when it gets out of hand. Tolerance in action.
Hahaha.
Every time I see a lefty come out in support of this mosque, it makes me laugh. It is just another nail in the Democrat’s coffin.
Even Harry Reid isn’t that dumb.
This has brought out a lot of lefty posters I haven’t seen in awhile. Where are the others, like lgm and mj?
I’m not entirely sure what “Soros-funded left” means, but can you prove that? Opinion polls? Anything? What logic suggests and what reality demonstrates are not necessarily the same thing. You should be able to prove these things with facts and figures if you expect anyone who isn’t already on board to buy in. Regardless, your own inconsistencies on the issue still stand if you support building Walmarts any and everywhere but oppose Cordoba.
Are people actually making that argument? What I’ve read here and elsewhere is an whether or not it’s appropriate given its proximity to ground zero. Now, people clearly have different opinions on that, and different ideas of exactly how far away from ground zero they consider appropriate, but if someone has a strong legal basis for opposing the center then they should speak a little louder because they are being drowned out.
That may be the argument, but it inadvertently exposes some double standards on the right as well.
The Cordoba Initiative has recently done some scrubbing at their site.
Perhaps they didn’t like how I used their own web site to expose their real objective of establishing a caliphate within 10 years.
What I wrote is part of this larger post.
You guys taking on Chap are funny. How you get to chap must think the bank actually has his money is quite the stretch.
Once you pick up the argument you lose and chap has his way.
It is an inappropriate site due to the lives that were lost there and how they were lost.
Any putting forward a reason why it is appropriate IF you start to argue “against” appropriate you’ve already lost the argument.
The chap is this and the chap is that is just junior highish.
You’ve lost the argument simply by engaging in it. Then its a tar baby.
Once you take the focus off of the reason why it is inappropriate you move to losing ground.
Even reasonable speculation that the mosque might be breeding ground for Islam that led to the attack in the first place is irrelevant.
The objection to the mosque is not what it will or will not do, may or may not do, how many folks may or may not need a place of worship.
Chap gets you guys all twisted up once you attempt to let him frame the argument.
NONE of those things matter. It is only the deaths of innocent folks and how they died that matters.
It is those deaths that make it undeniably inappropriate.
There is no “fact” that re-frames that reality.
actually the conservative position as I’ve heard it is a straightforward Sun Tzu plea of ‘know your enemy’. what do muslims do when they conquer an area? build a mosque! what is one of the most famous in this pattern? the great mosque of cordoba in spain. what’s the name of this imam’s group? the cordoba initiative.
one of islam’s great prophets, known to others as the Son of God, said more than once that there are none so blind as those who will not see. let’s open our eyes and see what this imam is really about. dig into his background in an un-emotional, objective manner.
I think it is self-evident that this initative is more than a mosque. This is a very well designed probe of the United States, verysimilar to what we saw in Europe over a decade ago.
Consider the location, the name of the initiative (Cordoba),who is backing this project, and their inital dedication date. Now look at the actions of the Imam and his board. They refuse to even discuss a compromise with the governor of NY. They talk alot, but have not budged and inch.
This is not just building a mosque, it is an initative to see how willing Americans are to defend their values and ways of life. If we are unwilling to “defend” Ground Zero, we are willing to defend nothing from the encroachment of radical Islam. And make no mistake, the Muslims backing this and funding this are radical Muslims.
The Americans backing this initiative fall into two categories: useful idiots and willing supporters, because the common goal is our destruction.
two examples were mentioned earlier of groups that have not built inappropriate memorials and the difference between them and the cordoba initiative is one that should not be ignored; the deaths of those innocents folks does matter to the imam but in a way that is appropriate to his worldview. that is precisely why he and his group want to build at this spot. it’s why they bought the land (or leased or whatever).
well said js, well said.
Another strawman, chappy? I only listed four options south of Central Park. There are other mosques on Manhattan. Include the mosques across the East River in the other boroughs and across the river in New Jersey and there is no shortage of “options” for the mohammedans.
BTW, there are only 4 Roman Catholic churches on Manhattan south of Central Park, too, including St. Peter’s.
ECS
“Infidel.” Dhimmitude is not an option.
President Bush should just keep his mouth shut. Seriously. What good would any comment do on his part? If he stands in favor of the mosque, he’ll be lambasted as a flip-flopper. If he stands against, more criticism will come. Why should he bother?
And, yes, that the Left would bother to mention President Bush with even the slimmest hint of favour as they’re doing now smacks of hypocrisy: either hate the man or love him; don’t run him over the coals for eight years, then turn to him for help whena liberal-left project disguised as “freedom-protecting” hits the rough.
Speaker of the House Pelosi is calling for an investigation into who is “funding” the outrage over the mohammedan “community center” and isn’t the slightest bit interested in who is funding the 13 story building at the center of the outrage.
We didn’t declare war on the mohammedans; they declared war on us. What did the US government do about the “German-American Bund” during World War 2?
ECS
“Infidel.” Dhimmitude is not an option.
Constitutionally, they have a right to build their mosque. Constitutionally, we have a right to act on their lack of sensitivity.
We can make it as painful as we want for them. The widespread national outrage triggered by this project makes it clear that it has already failed at its stated purpose of building a bridge of interfaith understanding. Yet they insist on following through so they are busted. This is not a bridge but a monument to Muslim victory over infidels.
We have every right to do everything we can to make it as expensive as we can to build there. We have every right to harangue, obstruct, embarrass, expose and otherwise make it clear to them that we are offended and simply won’t accept that insult without retaliation.
This isn’t about American tolerance, this is about a re-awakening of America to the realization that our tolerance and magnanimity, the qualities that have made us exceptional since our inception, are not respected nor reciprocated.
This isn’t about who has a right to do what, it’s about right and wrong. We are deeply offended by this bold and naked insult by foreigners on our most sacred ground and don’t have to take it. They may have a right to try, but they don’t have a right to succeed.
We will in time persuade them that it isn’t worth it and they will regret it for a very long time.
Bingo. Dead on.
President Bush said, “You are with us or you are with the terrorists.” It is responsible and prudent to have utter intolerance of person or group who makes excuses, is ambivalent, or evasive about condemning the perpetrators of 9/11 and their values.
The sponsors of this mosque go well beyond that. They are making this a provocation. We need to meet that provocation with a clear-eyed understanding that we have a duty to stop this thing.
It’s obvious the talking points went out and the leftist media is doing their best to bait Bush into responding.
He should oblige them, and state clearly he cannot support it as long as Hamas is involved, and their funding is unclear.
Put the hand lotion away, chapotear!! Stop typing with one hand! Leave us alone already!
Oh, btw, huggybear = chap… the whole style, the picking out certain points and the way the debate is going to go is a certain, round and round we will go till you get dizzy. Disappointing. I still plan on reading, most people here have very good insights on the debate. Again, jsmiddleton, spot on.
Pasedena, I know you have taken quite a bit of flack here, you even scolded me once, a fellow Californian, but you nailed it on this one. I appreciate and respect your passion, I may not agree all the time, but again, nice post. I have to say, YOU GET IT.
I do know that if this outrage comes to fruition, I would love to have a list of every construction company, every trades union, every supplier, every trucking firm, and every subcontractor that is part of the building construction and final readying of the structure.
I wonder if the Visa machine has been fired up to import foreign workers.
Who else would work on it?
Unless thug unions get involved and start claiming they HAD to take the work to feed the homeless.
No one doubts that a property owner has a legal right to do whatever a municipality’s zoning laws will allow them to do with the property. I think that’s a non-sequitur in the debate on the “ground zero mosque” issue.
Is it good for relations with the community and the nation at large to do so is one of the questions. Another is does the building of a mosque at that site potentially increase the grief, suffering and pain of people who associate the area with the death of loved ones in a heinous act of terror that affected an entire nation?
Is it in good taste, etiquette or simple graciousness to wish to move forward building a mosque knowing that it will cause increased pain, grief or outrage. Does such an act “build bridges” or does it burn them. Remember too that once the bridges over the Rubicon have been burnt behind one, the legions have nowhere to go but forward.
I have a terrible feeling that we are being chivvied into a “go ’round” that some expect us to lose.
President George W. Bush would probably agree that going forward with a mosque building project on that site while not illegal or forbidden is just a “bad idea” because of the pain and suffering that it would add to without any benefit to those who will be suffering.
He might also believe that this act in concert with many others is pushing the US into a position vis-a-vis the Islamic world that will end badly for both sides.
Thanks front…
The discussion should be about what is appropriate. Determining what is appropriate to build there then in and of itself eliminates what is inappropriate.
The other part of that discussion is how far from ground zero do we consider sacred ground? That is a hard question as well. What I do know is that where pieces fell of both machines and bodies, that is too close to ground zero for all sorts of things. I continue to look at OK City as an example of “appropriate” and the zone for respectful honoring building.
Seems to me the issue for Bloomberg is revenue. He made it clear that he is a whore and he is trying to hide behind “other” facts. It will cost to honor our dead. Bloomberg has decided if the cost is too high then that honoring is a bad idea.
He is for sale.
Two thoughts
1. Isn’t it ironic that Jimmy Carter ran his failed presidency because of his belief in God and Obama is running a similar failed presidency with an atheistic view of the world. Not sure what this tells us but interesting, none the less.
2. For those who think he is a Muslim we have to look at his two statements differently. If you are a Muslim, you must not lie to Muslims, hence his first statement to Muslims, but you can lie your a$$ off to infidels, hence his second statement.
Bingo! +1000!
On Fox and Friends this a.m. they were talking about a possible connection between this imam and Iran, Hamas, and other disgusting groups. I am so sick of this! We are America!! We are a sovereign nation that has its own Constitution, it own legal system, and its own laws. Sharia law has no place even being discussed here, except as something to be shunned and defeated. Anyone who ADVOCATES that this country accept this archaic 7th century travesty needs to be deported. We MUST stop allowing these people into this country. They want us dead and they want us utterly destroyed. The progressives don’t see it. That is why they must be defeated too. I want my country back, and that means keeping people out who are trying to destroy us.
By the way, I disagree with those who think this mosque will be built. Won’t happen. There are too many ways to stop it. Believe me, it won’t happen.
I repeat…WE MUST STOP ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE INTO THIS COUNTRY!! THEY ARE NOT AMERICANS, DON’T WANT TO BE AMERICANS, AND NEVER WILL BE AMERICANS. Sorry I am yelling. Need coffee.
Well, I have a solution. There is room for compromise. Let’s go the way of moderates, who don’t stand for anything. Let’s build the mosque and call it “The Barack Hussein Obama Mosque.” And,every time the mosque comes up in discussion, let’s refer to it as “Obama’s Mosque.”
Everybody happy?
On August 18th, 2010 at 5:28 pm, chapoutier said: .
There are over 600,000 Muslims in New York City, according to Columbia University studies, for what it’s worth.
yeah, and the majority live in Queens… NOT lower Manhattan… I live here and I know… And back in 1988-9 I lived right across the street (97th) from where the Daddy of the current Mosque project Muzzie’s Daddy set up a huge Mosque uptowm. I watched the construction of that shining monstrosity paid for by Saudi and God-knows-who-else’s America-hating funds from the Middle East. Mosques here are dens of plotting and sunterfuge where the Muzzies gather to chatter in their ratsh*#T language about how to kill us.
subterfuge
I still wonder: will female Muslims be able to enjoy the center when it is built?
Well said, Phil.
For those that live in the City – After a Mosque is built, is Call to Prayer broadcast over loud speakers outside or??
Good idea. And if we can’t get the official name, we should still always call it “Obama’a Mosque.”
Because it is. If he had expressed America’s outrage about it, as it was his job to do, the Obama Mosque would have been stopped.
So he owns it.
If Obama wants it, it will happen. He said that call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds in the world.
happyscrapper said:
It will truely be so.
Verily verily I say to you, as Obama has decreed, so shall it be done. Amen.
happyscrapper said:
Throw in a few Allah hu Akbars and ole Zippy will be in a foaming at the mouth ferver.
testify, max!
Channeling Yul Brynner/Ramses?
It doesn’t matter how much money you have in public equities or how much money you’ve made in public equities – your wrong in your argument with chapoutier.
Allow me to state definitively that an investment in a company that has no book equity (book liabilities greater than book assets) might be worth something of significant value.
If you disagree then you’ve obviously never heard of venture capital or distressed private equity – heck even distressed public equities fit the criteria you mention.
The original investors in Amazon.com and Ebay would absolutely disagree with you.
As a gesture of friendship in trying to build a cross-cultural bridge of understanding, let’s build a pork sausage factory at Mecca whether they like it or not. If they don’t like it, they are intolerant and not open to friendly relations.
What’s wrong with that picture?
Pasadena Phil said:
I was thinking of going into the Pig Bladder ballonn business just in time for the celebrations after the Mosque is complete – different colors or course- gosh, would that be insensitive?
He is using the ‘plain language’ measure of the value of an asset while you and chapoutier are using accounting language.
So you are both right.
In other words it’s a stupid argument.
“you’ve obviously never heard of”
I always wonder about that statement. If you’ve never heard of it, how would you know you never heard of it?
Do you understand that assets can be ‘worth more’ than what they could each be sold for separately (generally book value) when they are assembled together into a functioning business?
No. I am right, and he is wrong.
No, Roland. HE started this argument definitively using the book value measure of an asset.
But if he wishes to move the goal posts now, or if you wish to move the goal posts for him, then tell me what asset valuation methods you support in determining ‘plain language’ measure (whatever that is) of asset valuation?
It certainly is stupid for him to be arguing it.
We would you ask him this?
You’ve already definitively stated that he was using a measure of asset valuation other than book value. Do you think you jumped too quickly to his defense?
Only if they are attending their scheduled bi-annual clitorectomies!
Btw, I made $2,500,000 picking a good lottery number.
That doesn’t mean I know anything more than anyone else about picking good lottery numbers.
Rogue–with rusty implements, no less.
In the middle of a herd of goats.
No, but I realized it was possible. So I made the added comment just for clarity.
At least they’re adhereing to 4th century best practices for sterility and hygiene.