Ground Zero Mosque Supporters Beg Greedy, Lying, Human Rights Violating War Criminal to Join Their Crusade
**Written by Doug Powers
Byron York has a piece at the Washington Examiner about how supporters of the Ground Zero mosque are asking George W. Bush to show support for President Obama:
“It’s time for W. to weigh in,” writes the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd. Bush, Dowd explains, understands that “you can’t have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam.”
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Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an assist from Bush. “I…would love to hear from former President Bush on this issue,” Robinson wrote Tuesday in a Post chat session.
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And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also feeling some nostalgia for the former president. “Words I never thought I’d write: I pine for George W. Bush,” Beinart wrote Tuesday in The Daily Beast. “Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion.”
Are they asking the same George W. Bush who started an illegal and immoral war, lied about WMDs so his buddies could profit from the invasion and tortured exclusively Muslim detainees to come to the rescue of a president who was supposed to save America from all the horror Bush hath wrought? That’s fine, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.
I know many on the left support the mosque, but I didn’t expect some of them to sell their souls for it.
Either the Obama administration is losing its base or this has been the most successful billboard campaign ever:
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spaceycakes said:
Hell, all the years I was in the MidEast there was one particular part of a certain country whos inhabitants stuck to the conviction that boffing a donky was the best way to get rid of certain STD’s. This was a huge joke to the rest of the people that lived in that country – said country was Iran.
http://hindenblog1.blogspot.com/2010/08/crash-mosquetteers-are-obvious-liars.html
For your consideration…
Victor David Hanson has written, and he is as good as ever.
So, I’m looking at local masjids in the St Louis area to determine what females can and cannot access.
The only thing I can see is that #28 is an NOI ‘mosque’.
‘mosqueteers’–*snerk*
Making a Mosquery of the Truth
I cannot be alone in thinking that the mosque debate is getting really old. But since I still seem to be in the minority, here are three quick points that I think need to be given more air.
1. The liberals are the ideologues on this. Michael Bloomberg and Barack Obama have claimed countless times that they are non-ideological pragmatists. But their position, right or wrong, is wildly ideological. Meanwhile, conservatives who say, “Fine, build your mosque, just not right there,” are the pragmatists. But conservative pragmatism is never recognized as such if it breaks with the liberal party line. When conservatism breaks with liberalism, it must be denounced as ideology or, of course, bigotry.
2. Stop calling it a mosque. Defenders of Cordoba House sometimes say, “It’s not a mosque, it’s a cultural-affairs center with a prayer room,” or some such, as if this were a defense. To me, that makes it worse, not better. If this were some small, one-story mosque for the handful of Muslims living nearby to pray in, the arguments over freedom of religion would have more merit. But this would be a 13-story institution with an obvious political component to it. That strikes me as gaudy and an invitation to mischief. This is another point I think non-bigoted Americans understand better than the condescending supporters of the mosque.
3. The staggering hypocrisy of liberals is really an amazing thing. Everywhere you look, you hear these scandalized liberals talking as if it were beyond the pale to criticize religion. You’d never know that these overnight stalwarts of religious freedom had been demonizing Christian conservatives, Mormons, and increasingly orthodox Jews for years. It’s as if these people never wanted to ban a crèche, outlaw a Christian group, or claim that Jewish supporters of Israel suffer from dual loyalties. I’m not making a two-wrongs-make-a-right point here. I do think that some of the rhetoric on the right goes too far — Newt’s Nazi analogy, for instance. But it is amazing how establishment liberalism can spend years demonizing organized religion in this country only to turn on a dime when it comes to defending the Islamic equivalent of NikeTown two blocks from Ground Zero.
Jonah Goldberg
“In the middle of a herd of goats.”
Hey, some of my best friends are goats.
This has really derailed the economy issue, hasn’t it? Obama is talking about our economic recovery while the statistics say the opposite. Is anyone buying his crap any more? If so, why?? Do people not believe the data and statistics right before their eyes? Do they believe Obama no matter what he tells them? If so, why? Anyone that dumb needs their own country out on an island somewhere with knives and forks taken away.
So, if Iran is boffing the donkeys, who’s boffing the goats?
Rogue Cheddar said:
Hell thats easy — Iran
Fewer and fewer every day, Scrappy.
The Collective is imploding.
Operation OVER REACH is going VERY well…!!!!
Terrific article, Rags!
Anyone notice that while under court order we’re removing Bibles, crucifixes and copies of the Ten Commandments from supposedly public arenas, we learn of plans to erect more mosques in public squares across the nation?
Thank you! As Apu on the Simpsons says, “Come again!”.
And, please, leave comments.
I would take that one step further and say none of this debate matters outside of lower Manhattan, and every second we waste arguing over it is a net loss for the entire country. This is a local issue that has been blown up to a national story for the sole purpose of being used as a political wedge in the final months before the election. The economy is in the toilet, people are still uneasy about health care and Iraq and Afghanistan, but instead of talking about these issues when they matter most, we’re obsessing over a few thousand square feet of privately owned real estate in lower Manhattan. And that’s because the Republicans have absolutely nothing substantive to offer on any issue that counts right now, and it’s a lot easier for them to manipulate voters’ emotions with a really divisive but ultimately meaningless issue than it is to craft policy.
Economy? Health care? Hey everybody, look! 9/11!
I have no doubt that Republicans will do well in November, but it’s due to the same desperation that put the Dems in charge 2 years ago. Unless they actually accomplish what people put them in office to do, they’re not going to stay there for long. I wish them (and us) all the best, but I don’t have the slightest inkling of a belief that things are going to improve.
Ragspierre said:
What gets me is the sudden Liberal discovery of the 1rst amendment when it applies to a mosque. The two faced double standard of the Liberal Phylum is astounding in its audacity.
Case to point:
“Federal Appeals Court Rules Against Utah Memorial Crosses Along Highway”
It would be hard to frame a statement with which I more violently disagree.
When the Twin Towers were targeted, they were targeting America. When we responded, America responded.
Far from a distraction, this is an issue that wonderfully clearly delineates the two opposing approaches to dealing with Islamism.
That is essentially important.
What are the Democrats offering?
Yes. Targetting radical Islamism vs. treating all Islam as radical.
Nothing. And we’re going to replace them with people who have nothing to offer either. And every second we waste bickering about a non-issue is giving them cover. We’re all being played like a bunch of poorly tuned fiddles right now.
Ryan’s Road Map is NOTHING?
Recognizing and existential threat from Islamists is NOTHING?
Limiting government is NOTHING?
Repealing ObamaCare is NOTHING?
Reversing the Obamabana Republic is NOTHING?
You can all feel better now knowing this:
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Well, guess what? Those who oppose the GZ ‘center’ are not going to stop the opposition.
Part of what the Democrats are offering is the hoopla that surrounds this issue.
It’s a non-starter for you, but another ‘straw’ for those folks who care about expediency.
It’s something, but I’m not sure it’s anything substantive (as in, “Republicans have absolutely nothing substantive to offer on any issue that counts right now”)
You mean besides a hollow platitude conservatives like to throw around when they’re out of power and throw out the window when they’re in?
And replacing it wiiiiiiith…???
Again, how, exactly? I want charts and numbers, people! I won’t be appeased with cheap one-liners, although I admit “Obamanana” is quite catchy, although difficult to spell.
I know they’re not. How unfortunate for all of us.
Hey, it’s Obama’s distraction – against the very claims you cite – so don’t blame us for following along.
And yes, this matters outside Manhattan because it’s our friends and relatives filling out the uniforms currently at war over an event perpetrated by Islamic adherents on that “few acres” of NYC real estate.
How about constitutional SANITY to start? An H/C system that doesn’t force citizens to subscribe and drive private ins and health providers out of business…an H/C system that recognizes gov’s role in upping H/C costs – through subsidies and unworkable mandates and caps – and incrementally addresses those causes…and much, much more!
Defund it!
‘K. Push your chair back, get off your butt, and do some-FREAKING-thing to make that happen.
You and I are RESPONSIBLE for our government.
Liberals argue “Ground Zero is not hollowed ground: there are bars, strip clubs and betting parlors all around it!”
But I don’t think they’ve really thought that line through – I mean, are they saying a mosque should fit right in with all those other vices?
Straight from the Dems talking points and absolutely false. Most of the time when someone talks in absolutes using words like never and none, they are easily proven wrong.
There are a number of sites, and statements, and interviews, etc where Republicans state their vision of issues in this country. It might be that you don’t like or agree with them but to state there are none is false on its face.
Newt started an entire center to offer substantive solutions to issues that matter. Open up, take a real look around. It is there for you to see if you want to.
Heres one right here. GOP.gov. Wheres my that was easy button? Thats on energy, healthcare, budget, jobs, etc. Come on man.
Ctrl-Alt_Delete
Reboot to the day before Obamacare and start over.
People were not destitute or dying in the streets when this was passed….
Really? I thought it was Newt Gingrich’s.
Whoawhoawhoa. For straters, the US is the only modernized country in the world to attempt making health care work without an individual mandate, and it doesn’t work very well (in a nutshell we send the uninsured to the ER and waste money and valuable resources in the process and drive up rates for non-emergency services). The health care plan we’ve been given is about as market-based as it can get. We’re basically fortifying our existing system with a mandate and guaranteed issue. Far from driving private insurers out of business, it will boost their business by requiring people to purchase coverage. I happen to work for a major HMO and our CEO supports health care reform.
I recognize the constitutionality issue, so it will be interesting to see how this all shakes out in the courts. Personally, I think it’s kind of silly to ask the founding fathers how to make our health care system work when they didn’t even have germ theory when the constitution was written. Until about a century ago, “health care” was a hack saw and a bottle of whiskey.
It’s an idea, but you know, even St. Reagan understood that in a time of economic distress, it’s important for the government to spend money and then raise taxes to fix it once things straighten out.
No, but those of us who are insured were/are paying a lot more for services than we should to cover the added expense of providing care for people who are not paying in, not to mention having our access to vital emergency services curtailed. All of this due to a horribly inefficient patch-work fix to the gaping holes in our health care system known as EMTALA.
No more like welfare reform that Clinton vetoed 3 times before finally caving to politcal reality.
You start going through every department of the government chopping the make work programs there and the people who run them. Then start reviewing existing regulations, throwing out all of the nonsense.
You know, things like the Federal government telling a State they can’t pile up sand to keep oil out of their wetlands. Whoever made that call should be dismissed on the spot and their department cut….with extreme predudice.
Defund all aid to groups, left or right like ACORN.
Take the necessary steps to let the President have a line item veto.
Shall I contiue?
Ask yourself: if these ideas are so fantastic, why aren’t Republicans making a much bigger issue out of them? Why did Republicans do an about-face on the national dialog this close to the election?
It’s probably because the most practical idea right now, as pointed out above, is “Ryan’s Roadmap,” which is essentially tax hikes and entitlement cuts. I’m okay with that, but do you think the Republicans want to have that coversation right now? I do, but I realize I’m in the minority on this one.
Please do. But you realize this “going through the budget line by line…” meme has been thrown around in every election for as long as I can recall but doesn’t accomplish much.
You have to be willing to make cuts where the spending is happening. Right now, defense and Medicare are almost half the federal budget, the rest is a conglomerate of smaller but vital expenses. Are you willing to cut defense and Medicare? I am, but these things don’t tend to play well with voters.
They are. You just aren’t paying attention. Perhaps you only watch NBC which is a Democrat propaganda machine. You won’t see a big deal made out of Republican solutions on those networks that are controlled by Dems.
I don’t know what about face you are talking about. Perhaps you got that from Olberman.
Entitlement cuts yes. Tax hikes, no. You do realize that cutting taxes increases revenue for the Federal government right?
I do not disagree with anything you said. I saw nothing in Obamacare that addressed your needs effectively. Centralized anything does nothing to fix the things you correctly pointed out.
It’s ludicrous to tax for four years before providing services. That’s indicator one that the thing is a disaster and nothing more than a Socialist power grab. 189 new boards is NOT serving the people.
If I watch televised news, which is quite rare, I watch Fox. Last night I watched Huckabee and Hannity talk about how much the president loves muslims and hates christians. Captivating stuff!
But who are these “uninsured,” responsible for driving up H/C costs? Might not they also be called undocumented? Truth is, this nation’s H/C system was more than capable of absorbing uninsured citizens, through religious charities and help agencies – until the open borders crowd overloaded the system.
OK, I’m calling BS on this poster.
Until FDR’s wage and price controls, health insurance was a rare luxury. Health care was a TOTALLY market item. Markets, of course, include the MARKET FOR CHARITY, which Americans have historically done better than anywhere, at any time.
BIG GOVERNMENT market distortions started the private sector drive to offer perks to bid for employees.
HMOs were a Teddy Kennedy program.
Of course, when the Founders gave us the CHARTER for our government (i.e., the only thing making it legitimate), we didn’t have telephones, trains, computers, or cars.
The MARKET gave us those, and made them available to EVERYBODY with improving quality and falling prices. With the exception of trains (BIG GOVERNMENT intervention).
The MARKET gives us now…today…improving vision care and unheard-of procedures at falling prices and excellent levels of care. BECAUSE BIG GOVERNMENT has not screwed up the market for those services.
So, I think this poster is a poser.
Centralized what? Where did I say anything about centralizing? Obamacare requires people to purchase insurance and insurance providers not to turn people away. Full-stop.
But I am sure you read the Gop.gov website already.
And you see nothing wrong with this?
Really? But just don’t care? Oh yeah, you work for an HMO – it’s ok to force me to pay your salary.
Actually, I am not disposed to cut anything without a review.
When one cuts one needs to trim the fat; not the muscle. Alternately one can fix the budgwet for a while and turn the fat into muscle. It depends.
Here’s one thing of many to look at. Every year in August and September Federal agencies, like DOD, spend money needlessly to justify next years budget. They way the process works is they are punished for coming in under budget. They should be rewarded. I saw that for 25 years. That needs to stop.
What a steaming crock! The HC system we have now is legislated up the yingyang, at the State and Federal level. There is no free market, hasn’t been for years!
You realize how idiotic that statement is?
Again, this premise is incompatible with a capitalistic society and a free nation.
Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I’m gonna be watching you.
Yes, and they also didn’t have antibiotics or vaccines or open heart surgery. These things keep people alive, and making them readily avialable is often a cheaper alternative than letting citizens (i.e. producers and consumers) suffer and die for no reason, or (as we do now) sending them to the ER to obtain them. We can and should argue about how readily available these services should be and what constitutes basic health care, and how much the government should regulate these services. That’s where the debate should be, but instead we gripe about imaginary scary things like “death panels.”
Now what does this have to do with the mosque again? Sorry if I’ve led everyone down a rabbit hole. Seriously not my intention.
BTW – how did this discussion of America’s first Prostrate Presdident and his support of the muslim Victory Mosque get transformed into a discussion of the first Marxist President’s unConstitutional “Health Care” plan?
No, you did not. They did.
The insurance requirement is unconstitutional and an infringement on liberty. That being said, we should have a system that insures all those who want to be insured.
The principle is like the auto insurance system. People who cannot find insurance are like assigned risk auto drivers who go into a pool and divided up between the carriers based on the written premium volume of that carrier.
There are many good ways to do things in a compasionate, efficent way. Obamacare is based on systems that are failing today. Why would we adopt that approach? There are simplier, cheaper, more effective, decentralized solutions.
Hence, “about as market-based as it can get.” But we don’t talk about these admittedly complex things when it’s easier to scare the bejeezus out of people with straw boogeymen.
No, you’re the only one here down a rabbit hole.
Hey we already went through the looking glass so….
I agree, but the problem is when people voluntarily opt out of the system, people who are chronically ill (“pre-existing conditions”) and are of higher risk get turned away. The open secret in the health care debate is that healthy people who pay in help balance out the cost of covering people who are chronically unhealthy and need insurance the most. If there is a sensible way of getting around this problem I would love to hear it.
I think this poster is a poser.
Now I’m SURE this poster is a plant.
Yeah, I hate it when people think for themselves or do what’s best for their families. I’m phoning Pelosi right now to make sure I can get botoxed on Obamacare – at your expense – then I’m going to join the Dems and get an SEIU job. I’ll never have to make a decision on my own again.
Incidently, can you send me a list of children born out of wedlock I can help support? I mean, I don’t have any of my own and it’s so unfair to those single moms to have to feed the little…
I meant to say “it’s so unfair it’s so unfair it’s so unfair it’s so unfair” that YOU must help pay for ME!
Getting back on topic/Imam Rauf
Dear Ralphie:
Perhaps you should reconsider the victory mosque in favor of commemorative plates or a decorative novelty from the Franklin Mint?
You’d save money (I understand you only around one hundred thousand in the bank and need at least one hundred million to build) and extend the hand of “goodwill” to a WH and Democrats in sore need of one on this issue!
Yes, being uninsured is great for families. We should allow people who have children with diabetes and down syndrome to unvoluntarily opt out of the health care system. For the families!
You got me! I’ve been commenting on this blog since Malkin opened it up for commenting over 3 years ago, just sitting and waiting for this moment. I was this close to getting away with it. Curse you!
Anyway I’m genuinely sorry for the thread de-rail. This is way o/t, but I stand by everything I said above. Now I have to get back to work, so please feel free to tear me to shreds in my absence.
t-shirt update
BushObama SucksThey need to be RESPONSIBLE for their families.
how so?
Hey wait a minute, I thought Clinton was the first Prostrate President?! Oops, that would be Prostate, nevermind.
The reality is that an overwhelming majority of voters know that the Republicans wont spend the country into oblivion.
That’s substantial.
You mean like scaring people with this straw bogeyman.
I don’t understand. The democrats have given us HCR, stimulus bills, lots of legislation, why aren’t they running on any of this? Why are they still trying to run against Bush? They could have all kinds of ads, I made it possible for everyone to get health care. Maybe I didn’t create jobs, but my voting made the recession better than if I had not voted for huge stimulus bills. I voted to keep teachers from getting fired, we won’t talk about where the money came from or who really benefitted. Why are they not running on these platforms? LOL, the Repubs have nothing. The Repubs just need to run on the democrat accomplishments, since democrats won’t.
…and shockingly ignorant thinking such as yours allows people to think that America WAS NOT attacked on 911….it was just a little incident worthy of an FBI investigation.
Luckily for us after Pearl Harbor was hit people didn’t think the same thing as you that the economy is more important than innocent Americans being slaughtered.
Tell that to any family member who had a loved one killed that day, that their death was a non-issue, and they should just get over the whole Hamasque thing.