The Silver Lining in the Ground Zero Mosque Debate

By Doug Powers  •  August 29, 2010 06:42 PM

**Written by Doug Powers

Well, this might be one way to get somebody on the left to care about an overbearing tax system.

From the New York Post:

The mosque developers are tax deadbeats.

Sharif El-Gamal, the leading organizer behind the mosque and community center near Ground Zero, owes $224,270.77 in back property tax on the site, city records show.

El-Gamal’s company, 45 Park Place Partners, failed to pay its half-yearly bills in January and July, according to the city Finance Department.

The delinquency is a possible violation of El-Gamal’s lease with Con Edison, which owns half of the proposed building site on Park Place. El-Gamal owns the other half but must pay taxes on the entire parcel.

Maybe El-Gamal should take a page from John Kerry by admitting to no wrongdoing, but paying the taxes he owes anyway, and then moving the entire mosque to Nantucket. Let’s put that “religious freedom” thing to a real test by building it on Thurston and Lovey’s front porch.

Some of the ground zero area mosque’s defenders — Pelosi, Obama, Bloomberg, etc. — embrace political philosophies that are the reason the levels of regulation and taxation are higher than a bedbug in Paris Hilton’s “makeup” bag, which increases the likelihood that people will try to dodge them. So it’s a little ironic that those same mosque defenders could in part be the very undoing of the progressive cause célèbre of 2010.

Whatever happens, Sharif El-Gamal has at the very least seemingly qualified himself for a cabinet position in the Obama administration.

**Written by Doug Powers

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  1. #1
    On August 29th, 2010 at 6:52 pm, rambler said:

    Taxes are for the “little” people to pay. Those of us who are not part of the chosen exempt group don’t get to play by the same rules as the rulers.

  2. #2
    On August 29th, 2010 at 6:53 pm, Red Ted said:

    Gilligan!!!!!!!!!!

  3. #3
    On August 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm, Red Ted said:

    I’ve got an idea! Let’s purchase the tax deed until they either pay or we take half the property, then turn it into a Christian church!!!! Waddya think?

  4. #4
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm, Roland said:

    then turn it into a Christian church!!!!

    Even better: Make it a Synagogue.

  5. #5
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:11 pm, prendad said:

    I’m waiting for the excuse. . . . .
    How about:
    “It is against the will of Allah to pay taxes on his house of worship”?
    or maybe:
    “The chosen ones of Allah do not pay taxes to infidels”?
    or possibly:
    “We have paid all of the taxes but the money was stolen by the U.S. of Postal Mail-carrying infidels”?
    or just fill in the blank:
    “You dirty_____ swine _____ infidels who ______ who lay with dogs ______ infidel dog ______ pig, dog, infidel ______, _______, _______, infidel.

  6. #6
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm, sambo said:

    ahhhh. that explains the 70 million of tax free debt that the city wants to give them!

  7. #7
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Sharif is merely confirming in the minds of the Left that his project is too big to fail and to important to not be built.

    The Tim Geithner Mosque and Community Center.

  8. #8
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm, Stubby said:

    Foreign contractors are sleazy financially, screwing their subs, using shoddy materials, deceitful techniques, and coming up short on every payment required, including tax bills. They stiff the banks and work around every building code requirement they possibly can. If things get tough, they leave the country and nothing can be done. This doesn’t surprise anyone who works with these scumbags. It’s just their way.

  9. #9
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Drudge reporting that Obama admits to spending much of his time with his birth certificate plastered to his forehead, just not all of his time.

    “I can’t spend all of my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead,”

    So how about wearing it once when we can see it? (No, I’m not a birther.)

  10. #10
    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    No, I’m not a birther.

    I’m not a birther, either. I’m a constitutionalist. As a citizen of the United States, I am entitled to know that the person serving as my president, meets the constitutional qualification of Natural Born Citizen.

    So far, I have no proof as to where Obama was born. And no one else does, either.

  11. #11
    On August 29th, 2010 at 8:01 pm, right_on said:

    Check his immigration status…if he’s here illegally, then it would make perfect sense…they don’t have to pay for anything, the greatest of which is taxes.

  12. #12
    On August 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I’m convinced that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii and I really don’t feel like going through this again.

    I was just having fun by indulging in the liberal logic of twisting statements out of context to arrive at a contrived self-serving conclusion.

  13. #13
    On August 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm, mojoe said:

    Tax deadbeats. Well, at least they’re qualified to serve on Obama’s cabinet.

  14. #14
    On August 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Turbo Tax is a Jewish conspiracy to incriminate all Muslims in America. Or something like that. Wait for it.

  15. #15
    On August 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm, 24Klady said:

    How long have they been allowing members of the death cult to worship there? You suppose he thinks it’s already a mosque and entitled to ummm, certain tax breaks? Will only 1/2 of it being a mosque allow them to take the stand that it’s all a mosque and get a reduction – skirting the law again? Or, does that matter for property tax laws and houses of worship?

  16. #16
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm, BrianNY said:

    The mosque developers are tax deadbeats.

    Apparently, back taxes are the least of Sharif El-Gamal’s problems -

    1.

    Years before his latest real-estate project ignited an uproar, Sharif El-Gamal racked up at least seven run-ins with the law, including a bust for patronizing a prostitute.

    2.

    His most recent arrest was for a Sept. 10, 2005, assault on a barber who sublet a Manhattan apartment from El-Gamal’s brother, Sammy…El-Gamal allegedly cursed at Vassiliev, called him the Arabic curse word “sharmouta” and punched him in the face, breaking his nose and cheekbones…When he was arrested, El-Gamal denied he socked Vassiliev, but conceded, “[Vassiliev's] face could have run into my hand,” court papers say.

    3.

    He also pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in 1990, DWI in 1992 and attempted petit larceny in 1993, Nassau County prosecutors said.

    4.

    Details were unavailable, but a source confirmed a 1994 arrest for patronizing a prostitute.

    All are “moderate” crimes, of course.

  17. #17
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    Turbo Tax is a Jewish conspiracy to incriminate all Muslims in America. Or something like that. Wait for it.

    I knew it!

    Hmmm. Let’s see. I use TurboTax and they wouldn’t let me into that country club. I’ll bet it’s related. Think I have a case?

    Or it could be this:

    “I wouldn’t want to join a club that would accept me as a member.”

    – Groucho Marx

  18. #18
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    All are “moderate” crimes, of course.

    If we could just find a case where Shorty Al-Gumball kept a woman from having an abortion, then we’d find out exactly how the liberals really feel about this mosque.

  19. #19
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm, sbw999 said:

    Having left NYS 5 years ago, at least now I can observe this idiocy from afar, without feeling embarrassed to live in such a moronic State.

  20. #20
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm, BOB said:

    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm, TooMuchTime said:
    No, I’m not a birther.
    I’m not a birther, either
    . I’m a constitutionalist. As a citizen of the United States, I am entitled to know that the person serving as my president, meets the constitutional qualification of Natural Born Citizen.

    So far, I have no proof as to where Obama was born. And no one else does, either.

    I feel the same why you guys do, but I don’t feel the need to say, “I am not a birther”. I don’t get it? Clearly, Obama has never proven he is eligible to be president. I believe in the Constitution and I believe Obama must provide proof that he is a natural born citizen. If the Obots want to call me a “birther” for that, fine, I’m proud to be a birther.

  21. #21
    On August 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm, BrianNY said:

    If we could just find a case where Shorty Al-Gumball kept a woman from having an abortion, then we’d find out exactly how the liberals really feel about this mosque.

    If it turned out that the entire gang from the proposed Ground Zero Mosque had outed Valerie Plame…Liberals would still be riding this “wedge issue.”

    Don’t tell them, but the only group of Americans they’re giving a wedgie to is themselves.

  22. #22
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Obama has never proven he is eligible to be president.

    In my mind he has proven he is NOT eligible.
    His father was NEVER an American Citizen.
    He has admitted to being a dual citizen (British/Kenyan) at birth.
    No matter where he was born, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen in the context of Article II, Section 1.
    The courts just don’t have the guts to say what is obvious.

  23. #23
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm, BOB said:

    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:02 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
    Obama has never proven he is eligible to be president.
    In my mind he has proven he is NOT eligible.
    His father was NEVER an American Citizen.
    He has admitted to being a dual citizen (British/Kenyan) at birth.
    No matter where he was born, he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen in the context of Article II, Section 1.
    The courts just don’t have the guts to say what is obvious.

    I agree with you, I was just pointing out how sensitive people are about being called a “birther”, even if they too question Obama’s eligibility. It points out how well the Obot’s have used Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to try to get people to shut up on Obama’s rather obvious lack of eligibility to be president.

  24. #24
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I am not a birther because I am convinced that Obama was born in Hawaii. Nothing Alinsky about it.

  25. #25
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:36 pm, BOB said:

    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    I am not a birther because I am convinced that Obama was born in Hawaii. Nothing Alinsky about it.

    I take “birther” to include any problem with Obama’s eligibility, of which there are many…but I also have seen no proof that he was born in Hawaii.

  26. #26
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    Yep, paying taxes and your fair share only applies to the little people.

  27. #27
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    And since we are on the subject……
    Has there ever been a politcian, in the last 30 years or so, that has blocked and/or restricted access to their past documents to the extent that BHO has?

    That in itself should raise questions.

  28. #28
    On August 29th, 2010 at 10:58 pm, Sergeant Tim said:

    On August 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Sharif is merely confirming in the minds of the Left that his project is too big to fail and to important to not be built.

    The Tim Geithner Mosque and Community Center.

    Mayor Mike Memorial Mosque and Sharia Finance Center.

  29. #29
    On August 29th, 2010 at 11:14 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    Soros has the bill covered. Otherwise MTV-CBS-ABC-NBC-MSNBC-CNN will hold a live telethon over the next 6 months to cover the delinquent taxes.

  30. #30
    On August 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    How do they (rangel-el-gamal and et.al.) get away w/NOT paying their taxes!?!!!
    Non of us can!
    Our properties would be seized by our government ‘royals’!
    $224,000 ! and he got clearance to build a ‘finger in our eye’ mosque!!!!!
    carol-CS

  31. #31
    On August 30th, 2010 at 12:14 am, txvet2 said:

    To me, the silver lining is that the longer the left keeps fighting for the mosque the more voters they turn off. I hope it stays on the front page until November.

  32. #32
    On August 30th, 2010 at 1:33 am, Speakup said:

    Here’s a cute bit of information.

    Ground Zero Muslim center may get public financing

    Separation of church and state?

  33. #33
    On August 30th, 2010 at 8:03 am, nacho475 said:

    There’s also the bit where Gov. Patterson wanted to give them state land so that they would build somewhere else.

  34. #34
    On August 30th, 2010 at 8:05 am, nacho475 said:
  35. #35
    On August 30th, 2010 at 8:58 am, GladzKravtz said:

    The delinquency is a possible violation of El-Gamal’s lease with Con Edison, which owns half of the proposed building site on Park Place.

    Does the mean that ConEdison could void the lease with EL-G? Is this a way out of this for us??? Any lawyers or New Yawkas with ideas??

  36. #36
    On August 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am, thejim said:

    Everything coming out of OBambi, his Court of Jesters, the Left, Muslim Morons, the MSM, is a lie. Nothing is as described nor portrayed. So, Why would any reasonable person accept anything these liars offer up as accurate, true, undeniable, or beyond question? That includes everything OBambi is, may be, or involved with in any fashion.

  37. #37
    On August 30th, 2010 at 10:12 am, Ty85719 said:

    Furthermore: El-Gamal owes $21,000 in taxes on his own property, and commited 13 property violations while it was being re-developed.

    It is also interesting to note that Mr. El-Gamal has quite the police rap sheet, including the solicitation of a prostitute, and multiple assault and battery charges; he has been quoted as saying:

    “..when you beat up someone physically you get exercise & stress relief…”

  38. #38
    On August 30th, 2010 at 10:18 am, cheapseat said:

    Phil; I too am convinced our secretive pres was born in Hawaii, but because I know his father was already married to a Kenyan woman, and Hawaii was a state of the U.S. when he was born, he is a bastard, literally and figuratively. Also, I would like a ruling on whether when his mother (legal guardian) took him to Indonesia as a child (nonemancipated minor)did she give up his legal citizenship in the U.S. to get him into the exclusive muslim school in Indonesia?

  39. #39
    On August 30th, 2010 at 10:27 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Apparently I’m a birther and a racist. (yawn)

    Mildred: What’re you rebelling against, Johnny?
    Johnny: Whaddya got?

  40. #40
    On August 30th, 2010 at 10:51 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Also, I would like a ruling on …

    … a lot of things.
    The American people have been sold a bill of goods. Generations from now Americans will wonder how we could have been so willfully blind.

  41. #41
    On August 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am, max said:

    slight OT…
    But did it bother anyone else that when asked about his purported Muslimism, Obama responded with a (assumedly supposed by him witty) answer about his forehead and birth certificate? He wasn’t asked about that….

  42. #42
    On August 30th, 2010 at 11:39 am, Dave Turson said:

    Imam Rauf is a slumlord. Now I know how he affords three homes and the fancy cars for going to and fro.

  43. #43
    On August 30th, 2010 at 11:46 am, cheapseat said:

    The story of this “mosque” and the people involved in it is like “alice in Wonderland”. A waiter plunks down 5 million bucks for this building, but doesn’t pay his taxes. The imam and his wife are closet wahabists, speaking one thing in english and a totally different thing in arabic. The guy who supposedly gave the money to the waiter amasses a fortune doing what in New York. This whole thing stinks like the streets Cairo.

  44. #44
    On August 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm, BOB said:

    On August 30th, 2010 at 11:37 am, max said:
    slight OT…
    But did it bother anyone else that when asked about his purported Muslimism, Obama responded with a (assumedly supposed by him witty) answer about his forehead and birth certificate? He wasn’t asked about that….

    Being a Muslim does not have the potential to have him almost immediately removed from office, so it’s not on his mind like some “other” things.

  45. #45
    On August 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm, happy2behere said:

    Roland and I finally agree on something.

  46. #46
    On August 30th, 2010 at 2:29 pm, Mach1Duck said:

    Of course the good Imam said that America was the most Sharia Compliant country…Here is compliance.
    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/08/27/sharia-for-dummies/

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