Barack Obama on Iraq: Then and now; Update: We are all patriots…for the moment
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Barack Obama, 2002:
What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.
That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.
Barack Obama, 2010:
In a radio interview with CBS News, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said President Obama will emphasize that “We are putting the Iraqis in control of their history and their future. They’ll have responsibility for security and responsibility for providing for the citizens of that country. That is a milestone worth barking.”
Just hours before the president speaks from the Oval Office, Gibbs said the speech would emphasize “the milestone of the end of our combat mission,” and said Mr. Obama will say, “The story of the Iraqis will be written by the Iraqis.”
…While Iraq has seen political turmoil for months, Gibbs insists the caretaker government is stable. He predicts “in very short order” the Iraqis will have a government in place. The spokesman said the president will tell Iraqis, “with our help as allies, you will be able to chart your future and your course as you determine.”
Gibbs also had a terse response to Republicans challenging the president to give credit to the troop surge ordered by former President George. W. Bush — a move opposed by then-Senator Obama.
Gibbs acknowledged that “the surge improved security conditions in Iraq.” But, he added, “I think the only question that matters for them (Republicans) today — we can look back in history, but the question that matters today is, where are you on bringing more than 90,000 troops out of Iraq right now? Do you support the president’s timeline for ending our combat operation in Iraq? That’s the question I’d like to hear answered by those Republicans.”
President Obama will also call George W. Bush today for what Gibbs describes as an “appropriate time” to thank him for his “love of country as we end the combat mission.”
No word on whether Obama will apologize for his past political hackery and cynical attacks on those in the Bush administration who supported the troop surge that made his speech tonight possible.
The Denver Post reminds folks in my state that while the combat mission is “ending,” our troops are not coming home anytime soon. The mission that Obama once mocked as a “dumb war” continues:
While 80 troops recently returned to Fort Carson from Iraq, 3,400 members of the Fort Carson-based 3rd Brigade Combat Team are still posted there, conducting “stability operations” until March.
Another 800 soldiers from 4th Infantry Division headquarters are preparing to deploy to Iraq this fall.
…The mission for those deploying into what will now be called Operation New Dawn, rather than Operation Iraqi Freedom, includes advising Iraqi commanders on intelligence, supplies and training, he said. The unit will work on existing bases around Iraq for a year.
No fanfare was expected at Fort Carson around Obama’s speech at 6 tonight, said base spokeswoman Dee McNutt.
The Fort Carson troops who remain in Iraq are among 50,000 U.S. military and 70,000 contract personnel scheduled to remain until December 2011.
Related: Troops yet to give Obama full salute
Related: Boehner’s reminder for Obama…
In advance of President Obama’s Tuesday night speech on Iraq, Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the House Republican leader, was set to remind thousands of veterans attending the national convention of the American Legion that Mr. Obama and other Democrats had opposed the military escalation credited with gains in Iraq.
“This day belongs to our troops, whose courage and sacrifices have made the transition to a new mission in Iraq possible,” Mr. Boehner said in excerpts of the speech he was to deliver Tuesday at the legion’s national convention in Milwaukee.
“Some leaders who opposed, criticized, and fought tooth-and-nail to stop the surge strategy now proudly claim credit for the results,” Mr. Boehner’s speech said.
Words do matter, then and now.
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Meanwhile, in Afghanistan:
The top U.S. Marine general made a sharp departure from the White House’s talking points on Afghanistan, saying President Barack Obama’s promised July 2011 deadline to start withdrawing troops from the country had given “sustenance” to the Taliban.
“We know the president was talking to several audiences at the same time when he made his comments on July 2011,” Gen. James Conway told reporters on Tuesday. “In some ways, we think right now it’s probably giving our enemy sustenance….In fact, we’ve intercepted communications that say, ‘Hey, you know, we only have to hold out for so long.’”
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Update: Here is the full speech transcript.
Your takeaway:
As we do, I am mindful that the Iraq War has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it is time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It’s well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset. Yet no one could doubt President Bush’s support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I have said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it. And all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women, and our hope for Iraq’s future.
The greatness of our democracy is grounded in our ability to move beyond our differences, and to learn from our experience as we confront the many challenges ahead. And no challenge is more essential to our security than our fight against al Qaeda.
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You mean like Sen. Obama?
Right?
Not at all. Good luck with your new liberal democracy and ally against Iran.
Of course RSS has to fall back on the everything is Bush’s fault…
The Iraq war, the unemployment rate, the economy, global warming, etc….
So logically, according to RSS and the rest of the liberal left out there, Bush must be the most powerful man on the face of the planet. After nearly two years of the Messiah and a Democratically controlled Congress, they cannot undo what Bush has done…Now that is pretty darn powerful….lol
Sure we had a right to take out Saddam, but that doesn’t mean Americans want to send our boys to do it. Bush chose to give the most inflammatory reasons (Al Qaeda, mushroom cloud) and he lied about the evidence he had to make these claims.
And Rags, not to defend Democrats who would have followed Bush off a cliff after 9/11 if they thought it would have won them votes, but I don’t think they had the same access to intelligence as the White House. Regardless, that doesn’t make Bush any less despicable for peddling his lies.
You might want to check back and revisit the quotes the Clintons, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, et. all said about the Iraqi threat in 1998, when Clinton was President.
On which occasion were they dishonest? There is a clear line of demarcation in Democrat remarks. It cooincided with a shift in public opinion polls. Boy that is brave and honest leadership. That is integrity and principle in action.
They turned on a dime and turned their backs on troops in the field in a war for their own selfish political ends.
I’ve see that before. Check out the 58,000 examples on a black wall in DC.
NEVER HAVE A DEMOCRAT ON YOUR FLANK!
And RSS still continues his line that Bush used AQ as the reason to go into Iraq…oh please great wise RSS please do show us were Bush made this claim….
So I’m mistaken? The Iraqi people have not struggled…AT GREAT COST…toward a democratic system (which gives them the right to make even bad choices)?
Or did you want to dictate to them how they should live?
The jury is still out on how Iraq will chose to live, but a hellofalot of them are alive and free today to make that choice.
Which, I think, is sorta consistent with what we did in Germany and Japan, Italy, etc…
You can make that claim until the sun goes down, but it is demonstrably false. After we got into their records we found the Iraqi nuclear program was far more advanced than we thought.
Put up some facts or shut up.
Except what you think is less than worthless, and…
Bush did not lie.
Liar.
You are making a vague point that there was international consensus that Saddam had some kind of WMD’s, not that he was a nuclear threat or had Al Qaeda ties. Not even the CIA believed that, and it informed the White House that there was no such threat, yet the Bushies still tried to use that as a reason to go to war.
I opposed the war from the beginning because I expected us to end up pretty much where we are – about to pull out with the job not finished. I still expect that our departure will result in an Islamist government not far removed from the one governing Iran. Same with Afghanistan. Saddam had only one thing to recommend him – he kept the Islamists in line, as did the Turks prior to the current administration, as did the Shah of Iran. Removing any and all of those secular governments will have disastrous results for the M.E. and for the world outside of Islam. Saddam may have been playing footsie with outside terrorist groups and he certainly had WMD, but I still think the aftermath of his removal will be extremely deleterious. We’re not done there, and we probably never will be unless we just quit and give up, like we did in Vietnam. Unlike Vietnam, however, the new government will be part of a real world-wide effort at domination, called Islam. We will soon be fighting the war that Nostradamus predicted, and I hope he called the ending right.
Indeed. Soon they will join the rest of the freedom loving Muslim nations like Turkey?
I believe my point about this division among conservatives has been made. Time for lunch.
Do you read any other sources besides HuffPo and the DNC Newsletter?
The CIA does not “believe” anything, idiot. The CIA is not homogeneous, and is shot through with Reds…like you.
The CIA’s assessment of the Iranian nuke threat was real credible, right?
Right?
Obama promised to withdraw everyone by March 2008. Now THAT was a very clear lie.
Right?
What part of my earlier post do you think does not equal rank dishonesty?
There’s this conservative blogger I read, Michelle Malkin. She can be a little shrill and over the top, but she makes a good point now and then. You should check her out some time.
I am still waiting RSS for you to provide proof that Bush claimed Iraq had ties to AQ…you cant cause he never did.
Well, that MIGHT be.
But,
Egypt
Indonesia
Lebanon (before it was taken)
seem to say there is hope. Or am I mistaken again?
If your apocalypse is wired in, should we just reel everything in and wait for the “big event”?
Umm, mental block? I’ve said it twice already. Cheney peddled a story about 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta meeting with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague five months prior to 9/11, even after the story had been discredited by the CIA.
You’re right and RSS is an idiot, but he’s going to just keep recycling all of those old Democrat lies that WMD only refers to nuclear weapons. No amount of evidence to the contrary has worked to date, and it won’t make any difference to him now. The left has just too much invested in this lie to abandon it like Obama is abandoning his on-the-record comments about his opposition to the surge.
Unfortunately, it was supported by the Czechs.
Bush said there was evidence that Saddam sought uranium from Niger, when the CIA had already told him that evidence was bunk. Do you see nothing wrong with that?
Is RSS Robert Gibbs?
txvet;
The fool thinks that somebody saying something within the “intelligence community” is KNOWING.
It virtually NEVER is.
You make a very hard choice, and it really is based on game theory.
Somebody some day needs to calculate how many millions of people pacifists have gotten killed because they default to NOT fighting madmen when they need to be fought.
No, it was discredited even by the Czechs.
Once again, multiple sources outside the CIA confirmed that Hussein had been seeking yellowcake from Nigeria including British intelligence.
Hell no. Gibbs is an Auburn fan. He should be fired for that reason alone.
I admit I’m working from memory, but I’m still fairly sure you’re wrong.
Red is a good example of his breed.
He is a liar.
He throws naked claims around without the least support.
He calls people liars when they are…at most…mistaken.
He LOVES people who are demonstrable liars.
And he avoids questions like the plague, because they get in the way of chanting his BS.
And Bush had the balls to shift policy and help make sure that Iraq was won. Meanwhile the yahoos trying to take credit are the same two who said this war was not winnable and wanted to pull out immediately.
What many forget is that this war was not started by Bush 2, but by Bush 1. There was only a cease fire, and Hussein violated that ceasefire many times. He violated the no-fly zone and did not allow inspectors free reign to search for WMD. We also had a group lead by the son of the UN General involved in the Food for Oil scandal (Has the UN become less corrupt?).
So with this in mind Bush, who jumped all the required hoops re-started the armed conflict. If you are to question the war, then have the balls to question Bush 1 getting into Iraq in the first place. Otherwise you sound like a replay of Democratic talking points for the last several years.
He points up a serious problem with the CIA,though. They’ve been politicized into uselessness by the left. It’s good that they’re no longer the controlling authority in intelligence that they once were, but it’s bad that the new hierarchy is even more politicized than the CIA.
As The Hon. James Hacker, of “Yes, Minister” & “Yes, Prime Minister”, says,
http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk/yesminister/shawn.html
Was not in the Service, Flyover; but, I remember the same as you, back when I was a teenager.
You are absolutely correct.
Two things, first I asked you to provide proof not your word. Second, by your own words you admit that you lied when you said that Bush made the claim (you are now saying it was Chenney).
And he deliberately ignores a certain basic fact that others tried to make earlier in the thread – the Democrats in Congress had access to precisely the same intelligence that Bush did – all of it. And they voted for the use of all necessary military force based on it.
Ummm…Rags, we are on the same side.
But, I have to ask…:
Hope because of Egypt?
The home of al-Azhar “university”?
The place where Coptic Christians continue to be oppressed?
Hope because of Indonesia?
The place where Christians continue to be oppressed?
Seriously?
This came after Cheney’s assertions, but the Czechs did discredit the earlier report by October 2002 (if not earlier).
If Dick Cheney were an honest man, he would never have said it was “pretty well confirmed” that Mohamed Atta was in Prague meeting with Iraqi intelligence, when the CIA itself told him that was wrong. And even if he had been otherwise unaware that the intelligence was faulty, he should have taken great pains to correct his earlier error when the original source of the information, the Czechs, discredited it. Remember that a good majority of the American public believed that Iraq was involved with 9/11, a fact that no doubt made it an easy war to sell.
RSS,
I have found atleast four references to foreign intell agencies reaching conclusions similar to ours. You can go find them.
Put yourself in President Bush’s chair after 9/11. He had conflicting intell as any President does. He did what he did or he could have:
1) Ignored intell that the Germans were about to counter attack us in Belgium in Dec. 1944. Notably Patton’s G2 was the one major intell figure who did not. (Roosevelt)
2) Ignore reporsts that Red Chinese soldiers were present in large numbers in North Korea in Nov 1950. (Truman)
3) Ignore reports of a general NVA counteroffensive to cooincide with Tet in 1968. (Johnson)
You can add up the casualties when Presidents took your preferred course of action. In the world of intell you ultimately ask the question, “What will happen if I am wrong?”
And we needed secure bases geographically sited for our long term needs in the region. Bush made the “safe” call. He attacked.
First, I gave you all the cites. Second, wow, you’re not holding Bush responsible for lies made by his Vice President to make the case for his war?
In other words, you lied about Cheney, and now, you have the chutzpah to claim that “if Dick Cheney were an honest man,” yada, yada, yada. If you were an honest man, you wouldn’t be a Democrat. Ipso facto.
a) what makes you think they had access to all the same information, not just what Bush wanted them to see?
b) I don’t care. I’m not saying Democrats are better. Bush lied to win approval for his war, and that’s about as low as it gets, even if John Kerry and friends went along for the ride.
You can name any number of reasons why the Iraq war was a good idea. I wouldn’t agree with you, but I respect your opinion. However, the fact still remains that the White House deliberately misstated the intelligence to win support for the war, and that fact alone is as ignoble a legacy as this country can leave since slavery.
Well, from what I hear, Jews are getting pretty badly treated in Sweden, Denmark, and Norway.
What do we take from that?
See?
He will keep chanting that as long as his parents pay the power bill.
He is a liar, a racist, and a Collectivist.
But, most of all, a total waste of time.
I’m not a collectivist. I’m a liberation theologian. Geez.
Unsupported by any quantafiable information. If that were true, the President could have and should have been impeached.
In the world of the Left, anyone who reaches a conclusion different than theirs must be evil, must be a criminal or they are insane. They can never simply just be wrong.
I think Clintons handling of Iraq was horribly wrong. 250,000 people died in Bosnia before Clinton acted. If I were a leftist I would find a way to villify Clinton and criminalize his decisions. “Clinton lied and Bosnians died.”
300,000 people appear in Washington on 8/28 to restore honor and respect for the God they worship. There is no mention of politics, left, right or Obama. How the Left reported it speaks volumes about their value system.
I knew it. There’s going to be a collection isn’t there?
Need to dig into wallet………
Er, why hasn’t anyone asked the Iraqi — especially women — whether they like their country better pre or post Saddam? That’s the REAL measure of one of the major worthy points to go there. Forget WMD or Saddamn; If a whole new region of tens of millions of people now see us in a different more favorable/human light, the whole war/effort was worth it for that alone. Peace doesn’t grow for those who stand still like flower seeds. It must be earned to be respected.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
I have to ask again, what part of what I posted earlier did not constitute brazen dishonesty in selling the war?
Ok I just checked and at no point do I see any citation on links to anything that resembles the statments you claim to be true.
Secondly, you are the one who claimed that Bush himself said it then changed to Chenney, so therefore your earlier assertions that Bush said it were in fact false. You tried to cover it up by then changing the mantra to Cheney said it.
As for claiming I am not holding Bush accountable for what Cheney said, that is not at all what was being said to begin with.
To which I would say again, and what verifiable facts have you provided (linking back to your previous statements does not quantify as a verifiable fact no matter how badly you want it to).
Seeing that RSS cant man up an admit he is wrong we might as well just go back to speaking about what this posting was about….what will the President say tonight (or for that matter how many I’s and me’s will be in the speech).
You can build a trillion dollar community center in the south side of Chicago, and Chicagoans will say it’s the bee’s knees, but that won’t mean it’s worth the cost. Especially if a couple thousand Americans die to build it.
Another mental block? I provided all verifiable facts here. The fact that none of you want to take on the substance of those facts speaks volumes.
Now, that is a truly amazing piece of writing.
Now I want you to keep posting, Red.
Your comic relief value…and your value as a demonstration of everything we deplore…is immense.
What makes you think they didn’t? The members of the intelligence committees had the same clearances and the same access, plus subpoena power. You have Nancy Pelosi’s word. I’ll reiterate the point: They had access to the same intelligence and the Republican members obviously made use of that access. If the Democrats didn’t, it was their own fault and none of Bush’s. And there is no evidence at all that he lied. If some of the intelligence was wrong, it was wrong for him as well as for the Democrats who had equal access and came to the same conclusions.
As with your claims about Cheney, relying on faulty intelligence information does not make somebody a liar, it only makes them wrong – even as your slanders of Cheney, based on erroneous information, don’t make you a liar (even though I tried to make the point by calling you one) – it only makes you wrong.
What you seem to have been doing is providing links to nowhere and claiming that they somehow substantiate your claims. They don’t, they haven’t for many years now, and they never will. You’re wrong, you were wrong 8 years ago, and you’ll be just as wrong 8 years in the future.
RSS is just like other leftists here. They can’t deal with the subject at hand so they try to run off at all kinds of tangents. Sometimes it’s just fun to go with them, but I have no objection to getting back to the point – Obama’s a liar, he’s always been a liar, he’ll always be a liar – unlike the current conversation about Bush, who was just ill served by his intelligence community.
When you say that a piece of information is “pretty well confirmed” when you have been told by the CIA that it is bunk, you are a liar.
When you say that the British government has learned that Iraq has sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa, when the CIA has told you the basis for that information is bunk, you are a liar.
When you say that aluminum tubes could only be used for nuclear materials, when the Department of Energy has told you they can only be used for conventional weaponry, you are a liar.
These aren’t misjudgments. These aren’t faulty opinions. These are LIES, plain and simple.
BS! Although the CIA got a lot wrong about the Iraq war, they at least tried to rein in the White House’s most dire statements about Saddam’s nuclear program and Qaeda connection, but the White House ignored them.
You do realize that I provided 10 links to reputable news sources (well, nine; one was Fox) in that post, don’t you?
LOL!!!! you are so silly. The guy does not seem to realize that all he has done is link right back to this same article by MM….LOL!!! and he thinks that Bush was dumb…..ROFL!!!!!
I didn’t try all of the links. The last one was back to this thread, an earlier one was dead. That was enough sampling to tell me that you didn’t know what you were doing.
Here’s a hint: When you post a link, go to PREVIEW and hit it to make sure it works.
And liberals wonder why we don’t listen to a thing they have to say….
When you say that the British government has learned that Iraq has sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa,
when the CIA has told you the basis for that information is bunk,and you learn, after a very complete investigation they were right, but you STILL call Bush a liar, you are a liar.But we knew that.
I’ll listen to the speech on Mark Levin’s show as he breaks it down on the air, always insightful and entertaining when Mark contributes.
Don’t forget Jawn F’n Kerry. He also sounded off that Saddam was a major threat that needed to be taken down. Kerry would know about these things because he served in Viet Nam.
That should put everyone’s mind at ease.
The question is—do you actually read what she writes, or you just come on to the comments section?
“What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors..”
Bonehead just described himself. He’s an Armchair President.
What he was doing was evading the question, something somebody could have picked up on earlier but, as they say in the game, RSS is such a target rich environment that it’s hard to hit everything.
If you go there to save the lives of thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, and succeed in doing so, then it might just be worth it. That judgment would be up to those that put their lives on the line and the families of those who did and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
It sure as hell isn’t up to you.
I listened to as much of the Liar in Chief’s speech as I could before becoming ill. He is a walking pile of lies, com’ on Nov. 2nd. then close the purse strings.
Course there will plenty to repeal, congress led by the republicans will have to undue what ever is pushed through in the lame duck session. And do remember who votes for what, that is our job now, to constantly be on watch for traitors(liberals) masquerading as Americans.
I wonder if we should try all of these people for lying to the American people about Iraq along with Bush and Cheney?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1051684/posts
Show the Left some compassion. They are in a state of severe depression, because we won. They are upset; the enemy of their enemy(i.e. their friend), lost.
Did anyone else notice how many family photos were crammed onto the desk behind him? It seemed a little odd to me, and it makes me think that he’s getting desperate to control his image. It’s like he’s campaigning all over again instead of leading.
laggarticus,
Do you think that he has ever stopped campaigning and attempted to lead?
It’s doubtful.
Yes, I noticed the photos, too. Very inappropriate for this address.
He also could not pass up the opportunity to say something about the policies of “the last 10 years”…or maybe he said “decade”, but we all know what and who he meant. What a liar and sleaze. He also made a very weird face near the end…not really pursing his lips, but it was REALLY weird and creepy. I wasn’t going to watch the speech but I had to see if he dissed President Bush….and he did. It was like watching the devil on tv. I will NEVER do it again.
BTW, do any of you remember in which speech he quoted Yeats? The one where he said “the center cannot hold”. That was a line form Yeats poem “The Second Coming”. Was it in his first SOTU speech? Or was in the one in front of the columns in Germany. I found it ironic especially since he thinks of himself as the savior of the world. VERY creepy.
Iraq WAS involved with 9/11.
Al Qaeda perpetrated 9/11 because the US military was in Saudi Arabia.
The US military was in Saudi Arabia to enforce the blockade and no-fly-zone against….wait for it….IRAQ.
Prior to Iraq’s aggression towards Saudi Arabia the US military had NO presence there – none.
So how could you claim that Iraq WASN’T involved with 9/11?
I could not bring myself to even drunk blog this…performance.
Rags, I understand, because I’m not so think as you drunk I am after enduring that performance by our Dear Leader.
Thanks for y’all’s interpretation of Dear Leader’s speechifying, as I simply cannot watch anything but his squirrel ears, much less listen or care what he says. I will review tomorrow as I do not want to get all crazy before bedtime.
Between his floppy-wristed jogs down the stairs of Air Force One and his sibilant ‘s’ endings of words, I would rather have a root canal. His speeches should be used at Gitmo in an endless loop.
Is it November yet?
Did Obama just admit Al Queda is in Iraq? I thought he and the Democrats said Al Queda doesn’t exist in Iraq.
Gee…if only there was a group of people who saw that coming, If only someone had said the Dems who whined and complained the loudest would be the ones who took the credit when it was successful. If only…
Unlike YOU sir. THAT being the BIGGEST difference between the current interior decorator of the Oval Office and every other President…there is now someone sitting behind that desk who has not just had their patriotism and “love of country” questioned, one who had actually done things on his own to warrant such questions, but who even has a question as to which country his true loyalties lie. Guess that lapel pin and hand-over-heart salute of the American Flag during the “Star Spangled Banner”, to name 2 things, WERE important after all, eh?
(in the tone of Willie Wonka confronting Charlie and his theft of Fizzy Lifting Drink) WRONG SIR! WRONG! I understand you lead both a very sheltered existance as well as spend most of your time either admiring yourself in a mirror or with your head in the sand, but the blaring cacophony of the VAST numbers of those on the Left and those in the Entertainment Industry who were ADAMANTLY opposed to ANYTHING the military did, who spoke out and rallied against the men and women of our nation’s Military, who RIGHT THIS MOMENT are standing outside the Military Hospital, protesting the men and women inside who are recovering from life-altering injuries suffered protecting these spoiled, horrible people, who have hung soldiers in effigy from their porches and eves…they are ANYTHING bit united in support, and ESPECIALLY those like yourself, who tried repeatedly to claim doing such acts, saying such horrible things about the President as was said and plastered on posters and signs at their rallies, who attempted to define Patriotism as overt acts of treason and sedition, who claimed repeatedly that President Bush and the men and women serving in the Military, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan were the REAL terrorists, and who to this day maintain that the Government, especially President Bush were not just responsible for the attacks on 9-11-01, but actually went so far as to plan them and plant explosives into any and/or all buildings involved, etc., etc., etc., cannot, no WILL NOT be called or considered patriots, nor EVER said to be responsible for ANY victories our military reached. How DARE you claim that they are, let alone use the word Patriot when referring to them. I will stop short of reminding you, sir, of your OWN words and deeds concerning this and end with saying:
Thank You President George W. Bush. Thank you for all you did, especially working uphill with so many in denial and living in 9-10-01 in the Congress and Senate, for always honoring our men and women serving, for never allowing something as petty as politics to interfere with what was right. Thank you for all you did…and yes, you are so sorely missed.
O…thanks for nothing.
The Iraqis and the Afghans will have to pull their own weight from this point on, if anything is to succeed-this is at least one lesson from the Vietnam War that Washington DC still hasn’t learned yet.
Personally it would have made a whole lot more sense to have invaded/crippled Iran rather than Iraq.
If we are hit again from either of those two countries, we will have to nuke them, if one of our cities/states gets so much as a biological weapon unleashed lethally upon them from either AlQaeda or the Taliban.
George W. Bush=Creeping Sharia
Barack Obama=Dripping Sharia
I tuned in late for Obama’s victory in Iraq speech. I must have missed Obama thanking President Bush for staying the course and keeping us safe. I’m sorry to have missed it. I really had wanted to see that part. At least I got a chance to see how our economy will improve now that we are drawing down in Iraq.
And now that we have that (Iraq) out of the way we can focus on taking our country back.
If President George W. Bush lied about Iraq’s WMD, then President Bill Clinton lied about Iraq’s WMD. At least President Bush didn’t wag his finger at us.
ECS
Sarin is a nerve gas. Nerve gas is a “weapon of mass destruction.” Nerve gas in an Iraqi artillery shell is prima facie evidence that Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction,” unless you’re saying that the terrorists stole the artillery shell from us.
(I knew I shouldn’t have used Latin.)
ECS
I often wonder how liberals can keep up their phony “we love and respect the military” act they have performed since Obama took office. You know it really has to stick in the craw of many of them.
Was it just me, or did anyone else think BHO looked like he was under the influence of something while he was giving that rambling speech? It looked like he couldn’t quite get his eyes to focus.
Obama has a drinking problem. His doctors had to advise him to “cut back,” according to reports from his last physical exam. No further information was given nor has there been confirmation that he has followed his doctors’ advice. He sure acts like an alcoholic. Despite all his accomplishments, he never appears truly happy.