The eternal flame of Muslim outrage

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 10, 2010 08:24 AM

Every blogger worth his salt knows “Islamic Rage Boy.” He represents the professional Muslim grievance-monger, always at the ready to protest whatever manufactured insult could be exploited to curse the West. Christopher Hitchens wrote on the futility of appeasing the worldwide Rage Boy mob — a theme I’ve struck here for years, which bears repeating as we prepare to mark the 9th anniversary of 9/11, and which I reiterate in my syndicated column today. We didn’t start the fire.

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The eternal flame of Muslim outrage
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010

Shhhhhhh, we’re told. Don’t protest the Ground Zero mosque. Don’t burn a Koran. It’ll imperil the troops. It’ll inflame tensions. The “Muslim world” will “explode” if it does not get its way, warns sharia-peddling imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Pardon my national security-threatening impudence, but when is the “Muslim world” not ready to “explode”?

At the risk of provoking the ever-volatile Religion of Perpetual Outrage, let us count the little-noticed and forgotten ways.

Just a few months ago in Kashmir, faithful Muslims rioted over what they thought was a mosque depicted on underwear sold by street vendors. The mob shut down businesses and clashed with police over the blasphemous skivvies. But it turned out there was no need for Allah’s avengers to get their holy knickers in a bunch. The alleged mosque was actually a building resembling London’s St. Paul’s Cathedral. A Kashmiri law enforcement official later concluded the protests were “premeditated and organized to vitiate the atmosphere.”

Indeed, art and graphics have an uncanny way of vitiating the Muslim world’s atmosphere. In 1994, Muslims threatened German supermodel Claudia Schiffer with death after she wore a Karl Lagerfeld-designed dress printed with a saying from the Koran. In 1997, outraged Muslims forced Nike to recall 800,000 shoes because they claimed the company’s “Air” logo looked like the Arabic script for “Allah.” In 1998, another conflagration spread over Unilever’s ice cream logo — which Muslims claimed looked like “Allah” if read upside-down and backward (can’t recall what they said it resembled if you viewed it with 3D glasses).

Even more explosively, in 2002, an al-Qaida-linked jihadist cell plotted to blow up Bologna, Italy’s Church of San Petronio because it displayed a 15th century fresco depicting Mohammed being tormented in the ninth circle of Hell. For years, Muslims had demanded that the art come down. Counterterrorism officials in Europe caught the would-be bombers on tape scouting out the church and exclaiming, “May Allah bring it all down. It will all come down.”

That same year, Nigerian Muslims stabbed, bludgeoned or burned to death 200 people in protest of the Miss World beauty pageant — which they considered an affront to Allah. They shouted, “Allahu Akbar!” And “Down with beauty!” And “Miss World is sin!” Contest organizers fled out of fear of inflaming further destruction. When Nigerian journalist Isioma Daniel joked that Mohammed would have approved of the pageant and that “in all honesty, he would probably have chosen a wife from among them,” her newspaper rushed to print three retractions and apologies in a row. It didn’t stop Muslim vigilantes from torching the newspaper’s offices. A fatwa was issued on Daniel’s life by a Nigerian official in the sharia-ruled state of Zamfara, who declared that “the blood of Isioma Daniel can be shed. It is abiding on all Muslims wherever they are to consider the killing of the writer as a religious duty.” Daniel fled to Norway.

In 2005, British Muslims got all hot and bothered over a Burger King ice cream cone container whose swirly-texted label resembled, you guessed it, the Arabic script for “Allah.” The restaurant chain yanked the product in a panic and prostrated itself before the Muslim world. But the fast-food dessert had already become a handy radical Islamic recruiting tool. Rashad Akhtar, a young British Muslim, told Harper’s Magazine how the ice cream caper had inspired him: “Even though it means nothing to some people and may mean nothing to some Muslims in this country, this is my jihad. I’m not going to rest until I find the person who is responsible. I’m going to bring this country down.”

In 2007, Muslims combusted again in Sudan after an infidel elementary school teacher innocently named a classroom teddy bear “Mohammed.” Protesters chanted, “Kill her, kill her by firing squad!” and “No tolerance — execution!” She was arrested, jailed and faced 40 lashes for blasphemy before being freed after eight days. Not wanting to cause further inflammation, the teacher rushed to apologize: “I have great respect for the Islamic religion and would not knowingly offend anyone, and I am sorry if I caused any distress.”

And who could forget the global Danish cartoon riots of 2006 (instigated by imams who toured Egypt stoking hysteria with faked anti-Islam comic strips)? From Afghanistan to Egypt to Lebanon to Libya, Pakistan, Turkey and in between, hundreds died under the pretext of protecting Mohammed from Western slight, and brave journalists who stood up to the madness were threatened with beheading. It wasn’t really about the cartoons at all, of course. Little-remembered is the fact that Muslim bullies were attempting to pressure Denmark over the International Atomic Energy Agency’s decision to report Iran to the UN Security Council for continuing with its nuclear research program. The chairmanship of the council was passing to Denmark at the time. Yes, it was just another in a long line of manufactured Muslim explosions that were, to borrow a useful phrase, “premeditated and organized to vitiate the atmosphere.”

When everything from sneakers to stuffed animals to comics to frescos to beauty queens to fast-food packaging to undies serves as dry tinder for Allah’s avengers, it’s a grand farce to feign concern about the recruitment effect of a few burnt Korans in the hands of a two-bit attention-seeker in Florida. The eternal flame of Muslim outrage was lit a long, long time ago.

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  1. #301
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:24 pm, right4life said:

    Only from experience…a Born Again Christian is clean and a new man. If he subsequently falls, I’ve been told “he as never really born again”. Can’t speak authoritatively about doctrine, just experience.

    hate to tell you but everyone who is born again sins again…whoever told you being born again means you don’t sin is nuts.

  2. #302
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:26 pm, Flyoverman said:

    But that makes me wonder: if they do all that in violation of what their religion strictly enjoins them to do, are they are really “Muslim” then?

    PRECISELY!!! Hat tip to you!!!

    Why do you think car bombs go off in Muslim countries set by other Muslims?

    They are people, sinful people, just like us. They are flawed, have emotions, and make mistakes.

    Give me three of my fellow Lutherans and I’ll guarntee a two hour debate will break out over how any devils can dance on the head of a pin.

    Give me three Muslims and they’ll have the same argument.

    Recognize it and use it!!!

  3. #303
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:26 pm, sambo said:

    right4life said:

    I thought we were a secular country? separation of church and state, and all that?

    oh and the persecution of the indians was institutionalized by Andrew Jackson…a demoKKKrat…big surprise huh?

    lol!! the same old false argument knocked down again! Was it Matthew or John that demands Christians take land by force?

  4. #304
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:27 pm, right4life said:

    and show us this history of christians taqiyya.

    Ask an American Indian.

    and of course you cannot find anything in the bible that approaches taqiyya…

    so you have to practice taqiyya….

  5. #305
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:22 pm, right4life said:

    oh and the persecution of the indians was institutionalized by Andrew Jackson…a demoKKKrat…big surprise huh?

    I’d take a patriot like Andrew Jackson for President any day of the week. I’d prefer him to any President we’ve had post-Reagan.

  6. #306
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:30 pm, sambo said:

    and of course you cannot find anything in the bible that approaches taqiyya…

    bet you can find it in a law book!

  7. #307
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:30 pm, right4life said:

    lol!! the same old false argument knocked down again! Was it Matthew or John that demands Christians take land by force?

    the gospel of rags…

  8. #308
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:30 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:14 pm, 11B said:

    So why do you folks keep supporting the importation of thousands and thousands of muslims into America?

    To do the work that illegal Latinos won’t?

    That’s worked for the Left so far. ;)

  9. #309
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:31 pm, right4life said:

    I’d take a patriot like Andrew Jackson for President any day of the week. I’d prefer him to any President we’ve had post-Reagan.

    Jackson was a good demoKKKrat…racist as hell.

  10. #310
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:35 pm, John Deaux said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 3:04 pm, right4life said:

    why am I not surprised you would say that?

    Probably because you know that I’m very reasonable.

    anyone who disagrees with them is radical, and hateful and islamophobic!!!

    I never said that, but if you want to argue against that strawman, have at it.

  11. #311
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:36 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:31 pm, right4life said:

    Jackson was a good demoKKKrat…racist as hell.

    Racist is a term of the Left used to put down anyone who wants to defend and support Western Civilization in general and traditional American values in particular. Jackson was an ardent defender of his people and his nation. There is no shame in that.

  12. #312
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:37 pm, right4life said:

    Probably because you know that I’m very reasonable.

    dhimmitude befits you

  13. #313
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pm, Salt said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:26 pm, sambo said:

    lol!! the same old false argument knocked down again! Was it Matthew or John that demands Christians take land by force?

    I would suggest neither, but am curious about your reference. You might be referring to this line:

    Matthew 11:12
    From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it.

    However there is quite a bit of debate over the translation of the Greek (biastai?) which could have both a positive or negative meaning. In the positive sense, being ‘forceful’ in this case is more about being earnest in that it could be translated as:

    “The kingdom of heaven earnestly and forcefully presses forward, and it is entered into by earnest, eager pursuers of it.”

    That’s just an opinion, but considering that the negative connotation would stand in such contrast to the rest of Matthew’s gospel, it seems to make the most sense.

  14. #314
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:39 pm, right4life said:

    Jackson was an ardent defender of his people and his nation. There is no shame in that.

    you’re OK with the trail of tears then.

    how about lynching black people?

    Racist is a term of the Left used to put down anyone who wants to defend and support Western Civilization in general and traditional American values in particular

    so the KKK isn’t racist? how about the black muslims?

  15. #315
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:43 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Rags and John,

    This is awesome.

    The same folks who assume 1.2 billion Muslims are marching in lock step as one monolithic wave, in the same thread, as Christians, cannot reach a basic agreement on what “Born Again” means.

    Sun’s near the yardarm? That’s great!!!

  16. #316
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:44 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:39 pm, right4life said:

    you’re OK with the trail of tears then.

    Yes, I am.

  17. #317
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, sambo said:

    Salt said:
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:26 pm,

    sambo said:

    lol!! the same old false argument knocked down again! Was it Matthew or John that demands Christians take land by force?

    I would suggest neither, but am curious about your reference. You might be referring to this line:

    I was being sarc over RagRageBoy’s argument about “a Christian did this so Christiananity is as bad as…. ” BS.

  18. #318
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:43 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The same folks who assume 1.2 billion Muslims are marching in lock step as one monolithic wave, in the same thread, as Christians, cannot reach a basic agreement on what “Born Again” means.

    nice lie.

  19. #319
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, Ragspierre said:

    God instructs Samuel to deceive Saul (1 Sam. 16:2). “And the Lord said unto Samuel, . . . fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. And Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it he will kill me. And the Lord said, Take a heifer with thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord.”

    There are others regarding deception.

    1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

    There are others regarding what we today would call genocide.

    Really, people…

  20. #320
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:46 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:44 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:39 pm, right4life said:

    you’re OK with the trail of tears then.

    Yes, I am.

    then you’re evil and sick. get some help.

    and please don’t call yourself conservative.

    you sound like a straight up klansman.

  21. #321
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:48 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, Ragspierre said:

    God instructs Samuel to deceive Saul (1 Sam. 16:2). “And the Lord said unto Samuel, . . . fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. And Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it he will kill me. And the Lord said, Take a heifer with thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord.”

    There are others regarding deception.

    so you think this is a commandment of the Lord?

    There are others regarding what we today would call genocide.

    Really, people…

    so you think Christianity is all about genocide huh? you do know that is in the old testament…and the Lord is not telling us to destroy our enemies today right?

    He will do that in His time…which may be closer than we think…

  22. #322
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:49 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I was being sarc over RagRageBoy’s argument about “a Christian did this so Christiananity is as bad as…. ” BS.

    Except I didn’t say anything like that.

    My point was that Christians have a history of using deception as a means to achieve ends.

    Really, that can’t even be arguable if you know anything about history.

  23. #323
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:50 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, Ragspierre said:

    so do you think the US is a theocracy??

  24. #324
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:51 pm, right4life said:

    My point was that Christians have a history of using deception as a means to achieve ends.

    Really, that can’t even be arguable if you know anything about history.

    give us all those examples…the indian one was really lame….

  25. #325
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm, right4life said:

    nice lie.

    Ya I can tell. You and Rags have been exchanging hugs and singing Kubaya since Post #300.

    So what do you think? How many devils can dance of the head of a pin?

    1.2 billion?

  26. #326
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm, right4life said:

    the point is, raggy, that muslim scripture commands them to slay the infidels….and to use deception to spread islam….and you trying to equate islam and christianity is really laughable…but not surprising…you sound like vladimir posner defending the soviet union.

  27. #327
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm, Ragspierre said:

    No, right, in your case, that would be a complete waste of time.

    They exist. If you research them, you’ll find plenty.

    But you don’t have that kind of integrity.

  28. #328
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm, right4life said:

    So what do you think? How many devils can dance of the head of a pin?

    1.2 billion?

    I think your posts tell us all we need to know about you.

  29. #329
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:55 pm, collinb said:

    Let’s never forget the efforts of Rick Monday to rescue the flag from some *radical* muslims.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3AeMchnDM

    Makes me proud to be a Cub fan!

    Collin Brendemuehl
    http://evangelicalpserspective.blogspot.com

  30. #330
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:55 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:46 pm, right4life said:

    then you’re evil and sick. get some help.

    and please don’t call yourself conservative.

    you sound like a straight up klansman.

    Removal of the indians opened up millions of acres for settlement and was necessary to develop and grow our nation. How was it any different from other peoples in the world who have been displaced? Was the conquering and removal of goths, visigoths, vandals, celts, and saxons racists? I have never heard anyone suggest that. So why do you keep using the term racist in describing what happened to the indians?

  31. #331
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:55 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm, Ragspierre said:

    No, right, in your case, that would be a complete waste of time.

    They exist. If you research them, you’ll find plenty.

    of course you’re WAY too busy working on your cases!!!

    But you don’t have that kind of integrity.

    says the man who smears christianity at the drop of a hat…ok IMAM RAGS!!! whatever.

  32. #332
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm, Lindsay said:

    I fully expect Rags, Esq. to begin correcting spelling, grammar and yammering in Swahili as he argues with himself by the end of this post.

  33. #333
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm, right4life said:

    Removal of the indians opened up millions of acres for settlement and was necessary to develop and grow our nation. How was it any different from other peoples in the world who have been displaced? Was the conquering and removal of goths, visigoths, vandals, celts, and saxons racists? I have never heard anyone suggest that. So why do you keep using the term racist in describing what happened to the indians?

    so the ends justify the means? alright…you should get together with flyover and rags!

    just curious, are you ok with the removal the jews?

  34. #334
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I think your posts tell us all we need to know about you.

    That’s true for everyone out here. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

  35. #335
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:59 pm, Ragspierre said:

    and you trying to equate islam and christianity is really laughable…

    Except I never did. I pointed to glaring examples in Judeo/Christian canon to show that God had commanded deception and the complete destruction of whole peoples…which I think we all agree are hard to square with what we know of modern Christianity or Judaism.

    I use that only as a means to show that religions DO…OBVIOUSLY…change.

  36. #336
    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:59 pm, sambo said:

    Ragspierre said:

    I was being sarc over RagRageBoy’s argument about “a Christian did this so Christiananity is as bad as…. ” BS.
    Except I didn’t say anything like that.

    My point was that Christians have a history of using deception as a means to achieve ends.

    Really, that can’t even be arguable if you know anything about history.

    My point was/is that you can’t point to the NT to justify the deception…where mooslims can (in the koran).

  37. #337
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:00 pm, Flyoverman said:

    so the ends justify the means?

    Right4life,

    John Wayne was asked that once about the Indians. His response was, “They should have fought harder.”

  38. #338
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pm, Dave Turson said:

    What about Matthew 7:21-23?

  39. #339
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pm, Ragspierre said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm, Lindsay said:

    Lindsay, I thought you were the Insult Police.

    You haven’t made a single point here, or adduced a single fact.

    ALLL you’ve done is drive by and insult.

    Are you really McPhilly, posting under a false flag?

  40. #340
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pm, right4life said:

    Except I never did. I pointed to glaring examples in Judeo/Christian canon to show that God had commanded deception and the complete destruction of whole peoples…which I think we all agree are hard to square with what we know of modern Christianity or Judaism.

    I use that only as a means to show that religions DO…OBVIOUSLY…change.

    those verses are laughable to use for that purpose….

    the verses in islam apply to all muslims…NOW…killing the infidels, etc.

    the verses you use either applied to a specific individual, or to a nation that no longer exists…and hasn’t for 2,500 years or so….

    newsflash: the Lord isn’t telling us today to go out and kill the amorites (if we could find any)

  41. #341
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:04 pm, sambo said:

    Lindsay said:
    I fully expect Rags, Esq. to begin correcting spelling, grammar and yammering in Swahili as he argues with himself by the end of this post.

    He did that a couple hundred post ago…with an error in his grammer.

  42. #342
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:04 pm, right4life said:

    John Wayne was asked that once about the Indians. His response was, “They should have fought harder.”

    as far as I can tell wayne liked the indians.

  43. #343
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:06 pm, 11B said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm, right4life said:

    so the ends justify the means? alright…you should get together with flyover and rags!

    just curious, are you ok with the removal the jews?

    Why single out the Jews? Are Germans, Arabs, Serbs, Greeks, Armenians, and others not as worthy?

  44. #344
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:07 pm, right4life said:

    Why single out the Jews? Are Germans, Arabs, Serbs, Greeks, Armenians, and others not as worthy?

    because people like you tend to hate the jews too…

  45. #345
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:10 pm, T-Bone said:

    Goodness. Christianity doesn’t have any doctrines that require everyone to convert. There are a few like that Rev Phelps guy that protest at funerals that believe they will go to hell if they don’t save society. They are most certianly a fringe group.

    Mainstream Islam requires conversion, subjugation or death for non believers.

    I don’t have a problem with people cherry picking the things they want to follow in Christianity because the religion doesn’t require believers to cut off the heads of non believers.

    I wouldn’t have a problem with Muslims that want to cherry pick the parts they like and don’t like. That doesn’t change the fact that mainstream Islam wants to control the world.

    Thats not even in the same ballpark.

    And Flyoverman, Imams do not have the religious authority to make policy in Islam. Making a statement to a group of people about what they should do is nowhere near having an Islamic scholar with the proper religious authority to issue fatwas etc.

    I would prefer that renouncing violence and allowing religious freedom should come from something like an Islamic conference of proper authorities. Thats the only way it will carry any real weight.

    Thats like having Joe the Plumber say he supports low taxes while Democrats in position of power and authority support high taxes. Which one do we get and which one must we follow?

    Oh, and Joe the Plumber might get his neck chopped for speaking out.

  46. #346
    On September 10th, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Flyoverman said:

    as far as I can tell wayne liked the indians.

    Yes, he did and admired them very much.

    Time to go sit in the rain and watch football!!!

    Have a great weekend. Good exchange. Glad we have the freedom to have it.

  47. #347
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:05 pm, Lindsay said:

    Great point, T-Bone. Thread winner.

    Dear Rags (bless your heart) I am not sure how to “adduce” facts, as you suggested, in your kind and serene way (#347 or your eleventythousandth of today)… nor did I know Michelle required me to “adduce” facts as I have been posting here since she started the blog.

    As far as the “drive by and insult,” well, I have a life and only am checking this thread for entertainment at this point, as I have been out to dinner. So, no, I am not Phil.

    Snort-worthy, indeed, your comments, especially those comparing Christianity to Radical Islam, or the Bible to the Qur’an. Yes, please remember that comparison the next time we have a terrorist attack, as I doubt the cause will point to Presbyterians on the rampage.

    That said, this is the last time I will either respond nor read your gibberish.

  48. #348
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:05 pm, Lindsay said:

    So, no, I am not Phil.

    Is that a good thing? Or a bad thing?

    You’re not ageless beauty Lindsay Wagner are you? She’ hot!!!

  49. #349
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:27 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Hah…!!!

    So now we know, McPhilly/Lindsay.

    What a maroooooon….

  50. #350
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:29 pm, Lindsay said:

    Yes, you have adduced correctly, Phil.

    While I don’t always agree with you, at least reading your comments does not equal a root canal with a jackhammer. No doubt there will be exciting comments on the history of oral surgery to come, written in obscure Latin, and copied from Ptolemaic Decrees.

  51. #351
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:39 pm, swede said:

    Dang! Looks like I missed a heluva good food fight today.

    God bless us every one.

  52. #352
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, chapoutier said:

    Yes, please remember that comparison the next time we have a terrorist attack, as I doubt the cause will point to Presbyterians on the rampage.

    Thank goodness the various Christian terrorist organizations have not yet developed the saavy that the Islamic terrorists have. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.

    So far, they seem relatively small scale, incompetent and easy to catch.

    So far.

  53. #353
    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, Ragspierre said:

    swede,

    this is one for the books! I’ll save this thread for future use when proving what people said, what I said, and demonstrating their lies.

    Excellent stuff…if a LOT sad.

    To a lot of people here, the only good _____ is a dead _____. I thought we’d grown out of that, and were able to target actual enemies. Apparently not.

  54. #354
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:04 pm, right4life said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, chapoutier said:

    Thank goodness the various Christian terrorist organizations have not yet developed the saavy that the Islamic terrorists have. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.

    So far, they seem relatively small scale, incompetent and easy to catch.

    So far.

    you should go to the lands of islam where you will be safe!!

    just wear your starched brown shirt and jack-boots and you’ll fit in just fine!!!

  55. #355
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:06 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Yes, chaps…be afraid…

    be VERY afraid.

    Of course, you have a MUCH better chance of being hurt or killed by enviro-terrorists than any Christian whack job.

    But tremble…

  56. #356
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:11 pm, swede said:

    Rags – definitely some compelling dialogue and head on personality collisions.

    Then curmudgeon counselor chappy drops a provocative stink bomb to rekindle the ebbing flame. God bless you O pursuer of ambulances.

    Yes, chap. There are Christians who do ignorant, offensive and violent things. The wrong Rev Jones for instance. What’s your point?

    I think I’m gonna wish I hadn’t asked.

  57. #357
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:15 pm, swede said:

    But that doesn’t mean they aren’t out there.

    Well said chap. The fringe groups you allude to are indeed “out there”. Way, way outside of accepted Scriptural hermaneutics and mainstream Christianity.

  58. #358
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:18 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I’ll save this thread for future use when proving what people said, what I said, and demonstrating their lies.

    And now we must forever live in fear of Raggie pouncing out of the shadows to wave his “proof” before the world shouting “Liar! Liar!” in a final blog armageddon to decide who is the world champion blog commenter. It’s you Raggie. You’re the champ. Happy?

    A truly deranged mind.

  59. #359
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:24 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Wow, ya’ll.

  60. #360
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:32 pm, Ragspierre said:

    McPhilly, it was you who posted that I told “monstrous lies”. Remember? Along with a lot of other crap.

    If you need, I’ll post the citation.

    I called you on it, demanding that you cite to one lie I’ve told.

    You just ran, and ran, and…

  61. #361
    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:54 pm, conservoman said:

    When the President of the United States of America is delivering a terrorist threat against his own people, that if they don’t do what he says that they are putting lives troops in danger and it’ll be their fault if troops are killed, and backed up by his clown Secretary of being a Whore, you know the country is very, very deep in trouble.

    Maybe there could come a time when it would be appropriate for a President to advise his people to give in to terrorism. Maybe if we heard that thanks to the lefties North Korea had nuclear weapons all over the place tomorrow and we had to do a few things at their whim… then *MAYBE* it would be appropriate for the President to advise people to just go along with these terrorists even though he didn’t agree with what they said but he didn’t want half the country dead. It is a submission to the whims of Islam.

  62. #362
    On September 10th, 2010 at 9:56 pm, rightisright said:

    got here really late, haven’t read many post, but I had a thought as I keep reading and hearing on the radio all about the ground zero mosque, seems we’re being misdirected with the subject, away from a very important topic, ILLEGAL ALIENS. Hopefully things will back to a main concern regarding the future of the country after tomorrow. That is not intended in way to slight the significance of 9/11. That is another day in infamy…never to be forgotten. It does have to be taught in our schools 1st.

  63. #363
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:00 pm, rightisright said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 8:50 am, conservativesRus said:

    well said conservativesRus.

  64. #364
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:03 pm, VALIS said:

    This column is very on target and not at all ironic coming from a blogger who has made a career out of being professionally outraged about one thing after another.

  65. #365
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:11 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    To a lot of people here, the only good _____ is a dead _____. I thought we’d grown out of that, and were able to target actual enemies. Apparently not.

    Rags, YOU are the one talking about other people lying, but this statement is absolutely untrue. Nobody has said it or implied it, and I for one don’t appreciate what you are implying by putting words into peoples’ mouths. Please do go back into this thread and find someone who said something even close to what you have said.

    Frankly, I didn’t call you out for it before, but you shouldn’t be calling people liars. nobody here is lying.

    Guess what rags, 9 years ago, a group of 19 mostly Saudi Muslims killed nearly 3000 innocent Americans in cold blood.

    I expect it will happen again, and you will be trumpeting the virtues of Islam (a religion which you know very little about). That is what the Muslim terrorists want – you talking about how great Islam is.

    There is a difference between the religion or ideology and the people. the problem is that you can’t recognize that so you put all Muslims in the ‘super nice people who never commit crimes’ camp.

    Well, being Muslim doesn’t mean you won’t do anything bad. . . you are arguing that it does – to the delight of the 9/11 hijackers.

    Again, Americans EAT a Hindu god daily. If they said they would kill you or harm you for eating their god, would you think it insensitive for eating a hamburger?

    There are major problems and people trying to kill us. I think the better part of valor would be to protect Americans instead of finding the good in terrorists and terrorist ideology.

    No matter what YOU think of Islam, without Islam, 9/11 would not have happened. Islam encouraged the 9/11 hijackers to believe they were killing innocent people for god. There is a problem there that you don’t seem to recognize.

  66. #366
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Thacker:

    Bullsh!t.

  67. #367
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Raggie: Whatever. Y-a-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n.

  68. #368
    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:44 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    rags, gth.

    deny this statement.

    without Islam, 9/11 would not have happened.

    I have kicked your butt all up and down this thread, and that’s your come back?

    When I started debating, 98% of people were against me and supported your point of view.

    All you can do is say that I’m arguing that ‘only good Muslim is a dead one’ and say ‘bs’ when I call you out on it.

    Do you eat a hamburger? Every time you do, you offend Hindus as much as Jones offends Muslims with his backyard fire. Seriously, according to their religion, cows are reincarnations of their ancestors. . . so you are eating their relatives.

    Rastafarians aren’t allowed to smoke pot even though it is a part of their worship. The government denies them their freedom of religion and not a peep about the insensitivity of American laws against a religion.

    No, the special people are the Muslims. They never do anything wrong and they are always the victim. And they threaten you and blame you for threatening you.

    When is the Muslim schtick going to get old? It’s been old for me for a long time but we still have idiots talking about how wonderful Islam is.

  69. #369
    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Thacker;

    Now you’ve altered your BS.

    It is still BS.

  70. #370
    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:15 pm, Ragspierre said:

    McPhilly…

    still running…???

    Where’s your support for your blood liable?

    How are you different than the liars who publish the blood liables among Palestinians?

  71. #371
    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:37 pm, Lindsay said:

    Guys….(*whispering*)… he seems to be winding down incoherently with a lot of BS blips and blood liability hiccup postings, so maybe the tranquilizer dart gun worked… therefore quietly get out the four-point restraints and let’s put this disjointed thread to bed. ‘Night all.

    Keep the 9/11 family members and friends in your prayers tonight as tomorrow will be hard for them. I know Michelle will have a great link up in the morning. May God bless this country always, and protect us from radical Islamic jihadists.Please always protect our troops in harms way and bring them safely home Amen.

  72. #372
    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:52 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Wow, I return to find Chap using Wikapedia as a source and his two links are to two alleged Christian groups that could be defeated by the residents of my mother’s residential care center.

    Turning down my lights and popping in the The Doors Greatest Hits CD.

  73. #373
    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:57 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Nighty, McPhilly/Lindsay.

    Sweet dreams…

    Oh, hey, when you wake up, see if you can find anything that supports your lies…

    ‘K?

  74. #374
    On September 11th, 2010 at 12:06 am, Flyoverman said:

    No matter what YOU think of Islam, without Islam, 9/11 would not have happened. Islam encouraged the 9/11 hijackers to believe they were killing innocent people for god. There is a problem there that you don’t seem to recognize.

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The Spanish Inquisition would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the torturers to believe they were killing innocent people for god.

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The Salem Witch Trials would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the judges to believe they were burning innocent women for god.

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The IRA would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the IRA to believe they were planting bombs and killing innocent people for god.

    P.S. I am devout Christian.

    Declaring 1.2 billion people to be completely the same is intellectually lazy. We are not dealing with a species of evil, intelligent androids here.

  75. #375
    On September 11th, 2010 at 12:18 am, John Deaux said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 10:44 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    When I started debating, 98% of people were against me and supported your point of view.

    Now it’s up to 99%. Keep up the good work and reason will win the day.

  76. #376
    On September 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am, Ragspierre said:

    Flyover,

    For just a little more perspective,

    if not for the Shinto martial cult, there would have been no rape of China, Korea, Pearl Harbor, etc.

    if not for the evil of Communism, there would have been no mass starvation, no killing fields, no Gulag, etc.

    if not for the evil of National Socialism, there would have been no Holocaust, no murder of allied prisoners, NO BOOK BURNINGS, etc.

    Of course, without Islamsist radicals, there would be no 9/11.

    Nobody here needs Thacker to tell us that, or to pretend that anyone thinks otherwise. That is ONE of the several reasons his posts…which are inconsistent…are almost pure BS

  77. #377
    On September 11th, 2010 at 9:32 am, right4life said:

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The Spanish Inquisition would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the torturers to believe they were killing innocent people for god.

    oh yeah the spanish inquuisition….killed about what 2,000 people in 250 years or so? yeah what does that compare the millions slaughtered by islam just in the last century?

    if you knew anything about history, you would know the inquisition was merciful, and set up so vigilante action against suspected heretics would not take place. but then you sound like a typical wacko atheist or muslim apologist.

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The Salem Witch Trials would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the judges to believe they were burning innocent women for god.

    oh wow the salem witch trials!! another 10 or 20 people!! wow the slaughter….I know the armenian slaughter by the turks of only 2 MILLION or so fades into the insignificance!!!

    No matter what YOU think of Christianity, without Christianity, The IRA would not have happened. Christianity encouraged the IRA to believe they were planting bombs and killing innocent people for god.

    the ira was a socialist organization. try the truth sometimes. in WWII they supported the nazis, and they support the palestinian terrorists.

    http://markhumphrys.com/sfira.tyranny.html

    P.S. I am devout Christian.

    you’re an ass and a liar.

  78. #378
    On September 11th, 2010 at 9:33 am, right4life said:

    Now it’s up to 99%. Keep up the good work and reason will win the day

    haven’t seen any reasoning from you…no surprise…all I see from those you support is dhimmitude.

  79. #379
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:20 am, John Deaux said:

    r4l,

    All I’ve seen from you is the suggestion that we force all muslims to be Christians or slaughter them. Forcing their religious conversion is expressly forbidden in the First Amendment. You claim to be a conservative, so you should know that. Killing them is expressly forbidden in the Bible. You claim to be a Christian, so you should know that.

    Now that we’ve established that we can not convert or kill them and since joining them is not acceptable, what options are left?

    Is that sufficient reasoning for you?

  80. #380
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:25 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:20 am, John Deaux said:

    r4l,

    All I’ve seen from you is the suggestion that we force all muslims to be Christians or slaughter them.

    nice lie…but your suggestion is write sharia law into their constitutions, like we did in iraq, right? and hope they will like us?

    Killing them is expressly forbidden in the Bible. You claim to be a Christian, so you should know that.

    so all those christians that fought muslims for all those centuries were wrong….they should have just submitted. corect?

    Now that we’ve established that we can not convert or kill them and since joining them is not acceptable, what options are left?

    Is that sufficient reasoning for you?

    submit, as you have made clear.

  81. #381
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    John:

    wrong4life is the least Christian person I think I’ve been made aware of in some time.

    He/she/it is also mentally deranged, and I suspect knows it.

    Thacker has a wiring problem, too, as does McPhilly (although he has lucid periods).

    Sad, but there it is…

  82. #382
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    John:

    wrong4life is the least Christian person I think I’ve been made aware of in some time.

    why because I disagree with the almighty rags?

    you’re a pathetic little individual who has a temper tantrum because not everyone agrees with your lunatic drivel.

  83. #383
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am, Ragspierre said:

    See what I mean…???

    And he/she/it doesn’t even get it. Completely in the dark…

  84. #384
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:49 am, Ragspierre said:

    And he/she/it doesn’t even get it. Completely in the dark…

    oh I understand you all too well…you’re not nearly as profound as you think you are.

    you’re a legend only in your own little mind sweety.

  85. #385
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am, Roland said:

    r4l:

    You’ve crushed rags pretty well when he he’s down to nothing but playground insults, but you’ll know you’ve really squashed him flat when he falsely accuses you of being a liar.

    Rags is a lawyer who picks his side and then will argue anything to support it no matter how ludicrous, and flyoverman is an old warrior who defers to the chain of command. Real critical thinking is beyond them.

  86. #386
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:12 am, John Deaux said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:33 am, Ragspierre said:
    John:

    wrong4life is the least Christian person I think I’ve been made aware of in some time.

    He/she/it is also mentally deranged, and I suspect knows it.

    You forgot to mention that he can lift more than you and gets better looking women.

    Who else do we know that thinks they know how things should be and thinks you need to be re-educated to see things their way?

  87. #387
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:21 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am, Roland said:

    r4l:

    You’ve crushed rags pretty well when he he’s down to nothing but playground insults, but you’ll know you’ve really squashed him flat when he falsely accuses you of being a liar.

    Rags is a lawyer who picks his side and then will argue anything to support it no matter how ludicrous, and flyoverman is an old warrior who defers to the chain of command. Real critical thinking is beyond them.

    very true!!

  88. #388
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am, right4life said:

    You forgot to mention that he can lift more than you and gets better looking women.

    wow you must really have a thang for me!! I’m honored!! although it is a bit creepy!

    Who else do we know that thinks they know how things should be and thinks you need to be re-educated to see things their way?

    again nice lie…but as we’ve seen you are full of them and it.

  89. #389
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    wrong4life;

    Project much…???

    And Roland, you should put a cite where you show some critical thinking.

    I’ll put up mine. We’ll let people vote.

    Whaddaya say.

  90. #390
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:35 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    wrong4life;

    Project much…???

    you’re a liar. oh and the truth isn’t up for a vote. but then to people like you, truth doesn’t matter.

    else you wouldn’t be spewing the drivel you do.

  91. #391
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:36 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:33 am, Ragspierre said:

    wrong4life;

    Project much…???

    oh and what would you call someone who remembers things I posted years ago?? hmmm??

    I don’t remember his idiotic rantings…guess I made quite an impression…just like I am doing on you, sweety! LOL

  92. #392
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:37 am, Ragspierre said:

    Oh, and Roland, observation is not insult.

    wrong4life is nucking futs, as demonstrated here repeatedly. High-functioning, perhaps…but still.

    You, on the other hand, are just a jerk.

  93. #393
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am, Ragspierre said:

    wrong4life;

    Again, you demonstrate your illness.

    The proposition was not “truth”…which I love and you hate.

    The proposition was “critical thinking”.

    See?

    Get some help. Soon.

  94. #394
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:37 am, Ragspierre said:

    oooooh such a good lawyer…cannot win an argument with people that are not, and has to resort to name-calling and lies!

    oh well I guess lying is part of your job….

  95. #395
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:40 am, right4life said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:39 am, Ragspierre said:

    wrong4life;

    Again, you demonstrate your illness.

    what illness? is making you look stupid an illness? really? are you a doctor now too?? LOL

    keep posting sonny, I need the laughs!!

  96. #396
    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:48 am, Roland said:

    Oh, and Roland, observation is not insult.

    Another of your plainly idiotic remarks. The hurlers of all insults would call them “observations.”

    You are a pitiful worm. Most dhimmi’s are.

  97. #397
    On September 11th, 2010 at 4:32 pm, Blackstone said:

    On September 10th, 2010 at 11:07 am, Ragspierre said:

    How many false assumptions can you pack into one comment?

    If you burn it…and you will never burn it enough…you drive people to explore the “forbidden fruit” on their own.

    Now you’re the one making a false assumption. The point of the Quran burning isn’t to make it “forbidden”. It’s to make it clear to the Islamo-fascists that we are not afraid of offending them.

    I’m angry at the preacher, too, but for backing off his decision after having first resolved to do it. That shows weakness, and it’s very unfortunate.

  98. #398
    On September 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm, Ragspierre said:

    ‘K Blackstone…

    We’ll put you in the “supports burning books” column.

  99. #399
    On September 11th, 2010 at 7:54 pm, Blackstone said:

    And the problem with that particular column in this situation would be?

    It’s like saying that those in favor of using deadly force to repel an attack are in the “supports killing people” column. Not very elucidating without just a smidgen of context.

  100. #400
    On September 11th, 2010 at 10:00 pm, John Deaux said:

    On September 11th, 2010 at 11:23 am, right4life said:

    You forgot to mention that he can lift more than you and gets better looking women.

    wow you must really have a thang for me!! I’m honored!! although it is a bit creepy!

    Your words, not mine. Personally, I liked it better when you weren’t here so much. Maybe chappy and zeroangel will scare you away again.

    Maybe your homophobia kicked in because you thought chappy had a “thang” for you too.

    Who else do we know that thinks they know how things should be and thinks you need to be re-educated to see things their way?

    again nice lie…but as we’ve seen you are full of them and it.

    Really? What lie have I told? You’ve spent how many posts insulting people because they don’t agree with you?

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