Rove bashes O’Donnell; O’Donnell supporter at victory party strikes back; NRSC cuts and runs; Soros Republican Castle won’t back O’Donnell; Update:NRSC flip flops, Rush Limbaugh weighs in: “Balls to the wall”
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I just finished watching Karl Rove trashing GOP Senate primary winner Christine O’Donnell. It was on Sean Hannity’s FNC show. Might as well have been Olbermann on MSNBC. The establishment Beltway strategist couldn’t even bother with an obligatory word of congratulations for O’Donnell. He criticized her “character” and “rectitude” and claimed she hadn’t answered questions about her financial woes. She did so here. Rove mocked her security concerns as “nutty.” Yet, her concerns have been more than justified. See here (second video clip).
Rove came across as an effete sore loser instead of the supposedly brilliant and grounded GOP strategist that he’s supposed to be. Expect more Washington Republicans to start sounding like Tea Party-bashing libs as their entrenched incumbent friends go down. (Hot Air has the Rove/Hannity video.)
At O’Donnell’s victory speech, she invited a 9/12 patriot to speak. He sent a special message right back to Rove, recounting how Rove had met with Delaware 9/12-ers and Tea Party folks to try and convince them to back the “more electable” candidate. “No one is going to tell us how to take care of business,” the 9/12-er said he told Rove. And now, he observed, the “more electable” candidate Rove wanted them to vote for has been…unelected.
The Freedomist reports more details of the meeting:
Rove Tried to Cut a Deal For Castle With Tea Party- Teaparty News- The Collier Brothers
Sources at the Christine O’Donnell victory party revealed to The Freedomist that in December of last year Karl Rove met with Tea Party leaders in Dover, Delaware trying to get them to cut a “deal” in which they would leave Mike Castle alone and NOT support O’Donnell.
The Freedomist has also learned that Rove was allegedly acting as an operative, although in what capacity it is not known, even as he is playing the role of a political analyst on Fox New in a fair and balanced way.
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Video via The Right Scoop:
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Ace of Spades: Five Reasons O’Donnell Could Win
The NRSC cuts and runs, refusing to fund O’Donnell in the general. Way to motivate the base!
Doc Zero: “Really, NRSC? Quietly diverting money out of DE would be one thing, but openly announcing it NOW?”
Friendly public service reminder: You can donate to GOP Sen. Jim DeMint’s Senate Conservatives Fund PAC right here right now.
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Surprise, surprise: Castle refuses to back O’Donnell. What else would you expect from a Soros Republican?
Via The Hill:
A Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.) campaign source confirmed to The Hill late Tuesday that the longtime congressman will not be endorsing Christine O’Donnell.
This hits the nail on the head from Ian at C4P:
It’s pretty simple: when the shoe is on the other foot and the more moderate candidate defeats the more conservative candidate in the primary, what always happens is that the more conservative candidate gets behind the more moderate candidate. It’s time for moderates to act in defeat the same way conservatives act in defeat and that is to support the winner.
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Stacy McCain has a campaign HQ interview with O’Donnell and a round-up of related links, plus an AmSpec post-mortem here.
Ed Morrissey to the GOP establishment: Quit yer whining.
The Right Scoop has video of O’Donnell on GMA with George Stephanopoulos blasting Rove.
Update: The NRSC flip-flops. After a morning’s worth of flogging from the base, Sen. John Cornyn announces that O’Donnell’s campaign will receive the full NRSC monetary donation of $42,000.
Heckuva job, Beltway boyz.
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12:15pm Eastern Rush Limbaugh weighs in. “I never heard Karl Rove as mad at a Democrat as he was at Christine O’Donnell last night.”
More Rush: “If 51 seats is so important, let’s go balls to the wall” for O’Donnell.
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Fiorina is a McCain Protege. She will definitly be in the “gang”. That said, I will be voting for her over Boxer any day of the week. I did not vote for her in the primary.
JS- the comment about the Senate was that we don’t need to control it. It is always good in my mind if we win it. I just won’t stress out if we don’t as long as we close the gap. Who are the Dem senators that will switch sides like Snowe and Collins? I don’t think there are any. Webb? No, he’s just an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder. Liebermann? Maybe. I guess there is that gang of seven or whatever although that was for judicial nominations. I didn’t see them during the donkey care debacle.
And Phil,
You keep mixing me up with someone else. You can vote for whoever you like. I have no problem with that. In fact, I encourage everyone to just vote, even if they vote the opposite of what I vote. The more inclusive it is, the better the chances of getting a quality representative. Activists are drowned out.
I would prefer there is some better knowledge sharing but it is what it is. Vote the way you want to. I just don’t agree with your position. Sometimes I do prefer the LOTE. I certainly would rather have had McCain over Obama any day. Some damage may be irreversible. But thats why we vote.
I am also not allowed to vote for Fiorina and put a note in there that says I am holding my nose. She may mistake my vote as an endorsement of her policies not knowing that I am voting for the LOTE. I could let her office know but that is probably an exercise in futility as Karl Rove just demonstrated. She could care less as long as she wins.
So those “same old arguments” you are getting are not coming from me.
Wow, this woman is reeeeeeeeeeeeeally an idiot. Not just Michele Bachmann idiot, but Meghan McCain idiot. Sean Penn idiot. Amelia Badelia idiot. Even though she will be completely forgotten after the next two months, she may set a new standard for idiocy.
T-Bone: I’m sorry if I am confusing you for someone else. There are only 3-4 people here who attack me and whose names I remember. I’m not sure how (or whether) I got you in there. I really don’t have a beef with you that I am aware of. And disagreeing with me doesn’t bother me at all. I don’t have all the answers either.
I am busy and often don’t have time to read these long threads so I may misread things once in a while.
No problem.
Red State Skeptic said:
Compared to “The Word” — you are a hoot
that ratbag Rove should have no career after what he and Booshe did to this country.
Karl Amnesty Scumbag Rove
he can shut the F up now.
HAHAHAHA! Please please let me borrow that one!
Amelia says after you borrow it, you need to give it back.
Gee Phil now that’s an intelligent response. Glad to see you are out in the open though in that you want the Dems to maintain a majority. Figured that all along.
Finally makes your Republican bashing make sense as well.
“who attack me”
Oh, poor Phil. The perpetual victim.
One more dot to align with his being pro Democrat majority.
“I dont understand the logic to their position.”
Think “Its all about me. Not about the country.” and see if that helps clear up their position for you.
Amazingly self centered yet they perpetual pat themselves on that back as having some kind of virtue.
Its just amazing. It is amazingly dangerous. It is amazingly stupid.
And when challenged on it, folks like Phil label me, and others, as RINO’s, etc., as if that is some kind of substantive argument. Then at the very end of the dialog when Phil’s position is seen for what it is, he claims victim and starts all kinds of personal attacks as if he is defending himself.
Sick really.
The handful of folks on this forum who see themselves as some keepers of some Holy Grail are in fact quite dangerous to the country as their actions and opinions got us Obama in the first place AND will keep Obama in power in the second.
It is especially worth noting how the same handful of folks is now parroting the mantra that a majority doesn’t really matter this election.
Just amazing. Just amazingly dangerous. Just amazingly stupid.
No wait, I already said that.
“I am holding my nose.”
Going to be the m.o. for many of us this time. And in 2012 we work to have candidates that are more conservative win primaries so we have to hold our noses less. And in 2014 and in 2016, etc.
Part of what we have come to fully realize is we can not ever again be asleep. We will take back our government a little at a time and in doing so we will never be lulled into a false sense of security.
The idea that for this coming election it really doesn’t matter if we vote for Republicans to win a majority is absurd UNLESS one wants to maintain a leftist majority.
This is the FIRST skirmish. The idea that if we can’t fully win the battle with this election than this election doesn’t really matter is again, absurd UNLESS one wants to maintain a leftist majority.
We win this skirmish. We gain momentum. We win the next. We gain momentum, we win the next. Real world politics.
Hopefully winning a majority this time most certainly matters. Again unless one wants to maintain a leftist majority.
Nice to see some folks true colors coming out though. I’ve pointing out for some time Phil’s motives are suspect. Good to see he has finally demonstrated his true colors.
JSM,
Why only a majority? Don’t you want a supermajority so we are filibuster proof?
“supermajority…”
Will love to see the day when conservatives hold a super-majority in the Senate and the House and the Whitehouse.
Today is not that day. Today is the day to make the leftist majorities a thing of the past. The permanent past by the way.
And then we focus on 2012.
If some of these panties in a wad purist on this forum…..
Oh never mind.
Hey chap. Doing ok?
As Rouge Cheddar would (may) say:
“Still shakin’ it, Boss.”
Man, Take that chill pill or down a cold one. Not sure where the animus is coming from. Have you been flamed here or something?
I would love to see the Senate return to something more like 80-20. There will always be opposing voices and thats not all bad.
We need 10 seats in the Senate just to get a majority. That was a long shot 8 months ago. Now it may be attainable which would be great but you have to be realistic also. 10 is a tall order. As a % of seats up in this midterm election, it is a huge order. If we don’t get the 10, its not the end of the world as long as we control one of the 2 houses.
The game doesn’t end in November 2010. You can’t throw the 80 yard bomb every time. Kicking a field goal is not optimal but if it helps you win the game, you take it. If kicking the field goal as time runs out means you lose by 2 points, then you should have gone for the TD. The clock still has plenty of time on it. The oppositions first team defense is tired and down right now so we have a good chance to get some points. We don’t have to throw the Hail Mary. Just keep driving and wearing them down. Our coaching staff has the wrong game plan though but the playoffs are not the time to fire them.
I think it is more important to establish the Tea Party as a real voice out there. That means Tea Party candidates winning. It can give some cred to the movement and help overcome some of the MSM stereotypes. More people will be willing to jump on board. The movement will culminate in 2012. No Obama, No Hillary, No McCain.
This is only halftime.
All yours.
You label me a traitor because in that warped mind of yours my choice may somehow diminish the chances of your preferred party power, and expect me to not take issue with your insult? According to your logic I should just throw aside my revulsion and vote for the viable Republican even if he’s pro abortion, because to not do so is a win for the supposedly even worse Democrat! That’s just cynical and abhorent. And you call me unhonorable. I’ve grown too old to keep compromising my ethics in some twisted need to prop up a party that supposedly is conservative and what’s best for the Country. Someday I’ll have to answer to a higher power for the choices I’ve made in my life. For me that power is GOD, not GOP. You apparantly worship different than me.
This is almost to the point of being a damn disgrace. Look at us, arguing among ourselves like a bunch of brats, each trying to outdo the other. We need to back down for a moment and consider something very carefully.
The nation saw what can happen when the far left took control of Washington. After the Republican losses in 2006 and 2008, you would think the nation would not prefer them over Democrats but polling numbers show they do. Why? Because they went too damn far to the left and this nation is not a far left nation. And for the purists out there, it is not a far right nation either. We are a center to center right nation and the numbers continue to prove it so.
Like it or not, Republicans have a less positive rating overall than Democrats. Keep that little fact in mind when you spout the line about RINOs. True, there are some just as there are DINOs but remember this.
The party in power calls the shots and if you have a majority in both houses, the president will either go along or face a humiliating defeat in 2012.
It is important to elect as many Republicans to office as we can. If they are not as ideally pure as you might want, for the time being, they serve the purpose and if they enjoy superior favorable numbers, don’t turn your back on them. Don’t do to them what Rove did to O’Donnell.
If we are not careful, come 2012, there can be another backlash in the opposite direction and the public will swing back toward the Democrats again. Overall, voters are not stupid. They can be fooled – 2008 is an example. However, once fooled, they are more aware when making decisions. If they perceive Republicans are a do nothing party with nothing but infighting, they will throw them out again.
As I said earlier. Support the Republican candidate even if you have to do as another poster said. “Hold your nose and vote”. It is vital that we gain as much control in November as humanly possible.
Disagree if you like but what I have stated here is a proven trend.
You’re basing this on something from 12 years ago?
That’s a bit, uh, idiotic.
Well said. Very well said!
Yes, your support of all things (R) is just that.
We know you’re a party over principle type of person… No shame shame in that
MR. Rovejsm.btw:
Have you figured out why you voted for JD over McCain? If you have care to share?
On September 15th, 2010 at 4:35 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
And it’s really going to sting for you if she wins and SHE is the reason we win the majority…
“You label me a traitor because in that warped mind of yours my choice may somehow diminish the chances of your preferred party power.”
Rogue,
It isn’t about my preferred party of power. It is about the party we simply must get OUT of power.
And yes if you act in a way to keep the left in power, you are responsible for that choice and your choice enables the left to stay in power. So yes, treason is the right word. Acting in a way that leaves the left in power at any time in any way is damaging to the country, damaging to us as individuals, is essentially choosing to leave King George in charge. Treason.
Like it or not it is what it is.
The strategy this time is to unseat DEMOCRATS.
“You apparantly worship different than
me.”
Not sure what that has to do with it. What I know for certain regarding our differences is that I know when to make something about me and when to make something about the bigger good.
This election is about the bigger good. Getting the left and Democrats out of power one election at a time.
– Blackstone
How so? I’ve watched in here on numerous occasions as liberals have been judged on the basis of items from that far back in their past.
Moreover, it’s not like there’s a shortage of idiocy and arguably insane behavior from her in the more recent past. It’s all over the internet.
Her nomination essentially handed the Dems a seat they were slated to lose.
“Take that chill pill or down a cold one.”
If you were talking to me T the answer is “no”, I won’t take a chill pill.
The only way we get to this “I’m only voting for a conservative’s conservative this time and I’m proud of it” is IF we underestimate and dismiss what Obama is up to and how horribly dangerous leaving the Democrats/left in power actually is.
These clowns who want to pat themselves on the back and be all purist like as a result of their actions leave a cocked loaded gun with a hair trigger pointed at my head and my family’s head. It is a serious matter and to act as they do that somehow they are valiant is 180 degrees opposite. To meet their own damn needs for self importance and some pat themselves on the back that they are better then McCain they are going to subject the rest of us to more years of Democrat majorities.
It is serious and it is dangerous.
So no, this is not the time for a chill pill. This is the time to get the focus on the real enemy and that enemy is the Democrats and the left.
The enemy those who can’t and the focus is not if someone with an “R” behind their name can pass Jim DeMint’s conservative test.
“The enemy those who can’t and the focus is not if someone with an “R” behind their name can pass Jim DeMint’s conservative test.
Sorry. Should say:
The enemy is not those Republicans who can’t pass and the focus is not if someone with an “R” behind their name can pass Jim DeMint’s conservative test.
“This is only halftime.”
Not halftime yet. 2010 election is just the kickoff.
Well, lets just say the latest Rassmussen poll gives her plenty of room for improvement.
Again your insult is duly noted. What you call treason I call principle. The fact that so many prefer to sell theirs so cheaply is not for me to judge. I’ll leave you to search your own black heart for that reason to ponder.
Like I posted on another thread, O’Donnell’s fresh-faced enthusiasm and energy may well prove too appealing for independent to resist – especially when on full display in debate with her dour looking male opponent!
Oops!
You do realize, of course, that the Republicans will never ever let that happen, right? Karl Rove just proved that. He’s shown who he considers to be his clique’s real enemy, and it ain’t the Democrats, or even the Left in general. So just like last time the Republicans had all 3 elected power centers, they’ll simply do what it takes, screw up what they need to screw up, to let the Dems back in. You can count on it.
On September 16th, 2010 at 10:51 am, chapoutier said:
That’s the baseline. How many of those who claimed they would vote for Coons are moderate Republican voters who just voted for Castle? And how many of them are merely having a hissy-fit now, but will, come November, hold their nose and vote for the Conservative O’Donnell rather than hold their nose and vote for the Marxist Coons?
As I said in another thread…
I’d like to see Sarah Palin campaign for Christine O’Donnell,
and Barack Obama campaign for Chris Coons,
then see which side a majority of Delaware voters support.
Bring it on!
That’s all relatively irrelevant. Delaware is a solidly democrat leaning state (62%dem). Castle was able to win 12 elections in the state by understanding and actually attempting to, you know, represent his constituency. Not just the conservatives, but his state as a whole. Everyone seems to ignore that, this was, fundamentally, his job. O’Donnell’s problem isn’t going to be with conservative voters. Most WILL vote for her (except for some percentage which disagrees with the soc-con stances she has). But she will draw few voters from the Dem camp, and likely very few independents. Castle was able to do so, and by doing so, was able to cast very important votes for important conservative measures. Yes, yes, he did vote the liberal side sometimes. . . but more often than not, he DID vote the conservative side, and as narrow as the gap will likely be between liberal and conservative in the Senate after these mid-terms. . . .the conservative movement will almost certainly miss his vote at some point.
Because there will be a Dem in that seat who NEVER votes the conservative side.
Here is the problem with that. McSnake is a RINGLEADER of the Progies on the Repub side, with his lickspittle little friend Gramnasty his ExO. He does damage all out of proportion to a single seat. For example, he is the main reason that the Bush taxcuts have a sunset.
I would vote for the Progie flying under his own colors, (the Democrat). McSnake has amassed so much power that even with the seat going to the Dem, the head of the snake would be lopped. Leaderless, (or with the Gramnasty leading — the same thing…) Constitutionalist options wouldn’t die on the vine.
Egad, please don’t do that. That only gives him your seal of approval. You can always do a write-in or something if you’re unhappy with the two main candidates.
Yashmak,
This is shaping up a lot like the Scott Brown race did. O’Donnell has raised over $1.2 Million on her web site. Brown was behind in the polls at this point in the race, too, but a lot of voters got excited about taking a seat held for multiple decades by a Democratic Socialist and filling it with a Tea Party-backed candidate.
I think this is going to be a fun ride. The lefties are already flipping out. They know their whole narrative (“Republicans have to nominate a moderate if they want to win in a blue state”) is lost if she wins.
Perhaps. But there are significant differences too. O’Donnell isn’t running against a long-term incumbent. Brown didn’t bring nearly as much baggage to the race as O’Donnell trails behind her. She only beat Castle by 3,500 votes in the primary (her total was only 30,000). As far as I can tell, her opponent Coons has a relatively spotless past.
The lefties aren’t flipping out. They’re just breathing a sigh of relief. It just got a bit easier for them to maintain their majority in the Senate. To me, that’s a very bad thing.
Exactly. The collectivists lose this one, and it will totally upend both parties.
She’s an underdog, but just seeing the panic on the faces of the ruling class is worth the price of entry.
Of course it will be a disappointment to Tea Partiers if she loses (just as it was a disappointment when Hoffman lost NY-23), but it won’t be unexpected, and it’s hard to overestimate the value of the encouragement to the grassroots of seeing that fear on the other side.
We can win. We really can. Maybe not that particular race, but the whole sheebang. Otherwise they wouldn’t be so scared.
What was that quote someone posted earlier? Something like “We looked around the street, and we saw there were more of us than there were of them.”
That is when the tide of history can really turn.
He’s a marxist. He will claim otherwise, of course, but even many bluestaters are catching on to Obama type lying about having changed and now they are really ‘moderates’ now even though there is nothing in the record to prove they have moderated their views at all.
I apologize, Sir! You are absolutely correct, and I was not thinking when I made that part of the comment!
Thank you for the cold water in the face, there!
Now, to new business:
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Pardon me? Why yes, let’s vote McCain back so that every time a Conservative Thought breaks out he can organize the Repub-Progies to squash it from the inside! Marvelous strategy that!
Yes, let them vote against the Constitution from BOTH sides: R & D! And without even the courtesy of actually going through the Amendment Process! Wonderful! How efficient!
I read what you wrote and thought of:
Jumping Jim Jeffers, Arlen Sphincter, Snowe, the list is very long… These people had(in the case of Sphincter) no fear of being turned out, until the contempt they had for “the great unwashed”, who’s servants they supposedly were, was accidentally displayed in an undeniable fashion.
No, I say: make ‘em work for your vote!
Oh, and on that “ideological purity” canard: you do realize we’re talking about THE CONSTITUTION here, right?
All those feel/think(?), like msm4 Yasmak, etc… ie, those who condemn “ideological purity”, why don’t you come out and say it: you want the “Living Constitution(tm)“, where the words mean what your Leaders say, when they say, changes as often as they say! “Night Today; Daytime This Evening”, and redefine the terms every five minutes to keep it interesting!
Which is exactly what you get with “Progie-light”, and I wonder if the people arguing against “purity” — that is, someone who will FOLLOW the Constitutional Limits set on the branches, don’t know it!
Very interesting observation. You draw the wrong conclusions, however. The Citizens can be induced not to vote, and some even “fooled”, if they are presented with only shades of gray — which is exactly what the GOP “Leadership” is doing and has been doing! Why in the world would anyone, contrary to all the evidence past & present, argue for “more of the same”?
No, not really. Look at the trends starting from approx 1900, (and bub, I remember them — I was there for most of it…) and you’ll see that the Citizens AREN’T stupid… but when Progies lie: like Wilson & FDR who stated they were the exact opposite of what they really were, (you know, like Snowe, Castle, McCain, Gramnasty, Spector, Crist, Scozz — should I go on?), they CAN be fooled.
And as FDR proved, once you have the office you can generate enough fear to keep it! You’ll have all sorts of “little workers” who — like the Spy Scouts & the “Protect America” societies did for Wilson & FDR — will go out and dissemble to keep you there!
No, brother, I’ve watched this movie before — it weren’t no talkie, and I hated it the first time. You guys who argue LOTE are almost always LOUTS!
I exclude people like RUSH, who generally have a plan to ASAP replace the “R”-Progies. But most of the people here are always saying “LOTE McCain: He’s electable!”
Well, if we can’t unseat him in the Primaries, let the True-Progie challenger win, then unseat the un-entrenched Progie!
Let’s get this done! I don’t want to leave my posterity in the hands of the Progies!
– Roland
And if he is? Delaware is so blue that probably makes him MORE attractive to voters there, not less. There’s a good portion of Democrat voters who honestly believe that the reason stimulus didn’t work, the reason that Obama is losing popularity, is that he didn’t do ENOUGH. To them, Coons is probably quite an attractive candidate. All the more reason it was a very bad idea to nominate a candidate so conservative in that state.
I guess when it all comes down to it, we’ll see in November.
– martin.musculus
Ah, it’s all just so black & white to you isn’t it? Too bad the real world doesn’t work that way.
Simple question.
Which is better:
A) Getting a candidate with an only 52% conservative voting record elected to a seat that would otherwise go to Coons (a Marxist).
B) Having Coons win the seat, possibly costing conservatives the majority in the Senate.
And which of those two is more likely to preserve the constitution? You can say O’Donnell would be more likely than either, and that may be the case, but it will matter not when she loses to Coons. You’re fooling yourself if you think for a moment I favor a constantly changing “Living Constitution”.
But that’s exactly the direction that ideological purity will take the nation in Delaware when (as is almost certain) O’Donnell loses to Coons.
You are wrong about this, and that affects your overall risk/reward judgment here.
O’Donnell could win if enough reasonably moderate Democrats realize a Coons vote will stick them with a marxist who can never be unseated while an O’Donnell win will give them a Senator with no power other than to be a check against the radical Congress/President, and it will expire in 4 years when O’Donnell will certainly be defeated (unless she pleasantly surprises the moderate Democrats).
If enough moderate Democrats see what is true just about the basic politics of the race, O’Donnell will win.
What makes you so sure she will?
Were we not told the same thing about the Kennedy seat?
Here in PA we were told the same thing about Toomey six years ago. Arlen had to be supported because a conservative couldn’t win statewide office because dems outnumbered repubs by a million. Those same people that all but threw in the towel when Specter switched parties are going to look pretty stupid in November when Pat wins. If we pull together and do everything we can to support the woman I believe it can be done.
And yes I am doing what I can…I was one of those that helped crash her website.
– Roland
Your assessment only holds water if the moderate dems you refer to see her as less extreme than Coons. I find that entirely unlikely, and given the moderate dems already left-leaning nature, it’s natural to assume they’d favor a left leaning extremist over a right leaning extremist.
Also, I can’t see the logic behind the notion that Coons couldn’t be unseated once in office, but a candidate like O’Donnell has a chance to beat him upfront.
Like I said though, we’ll see in November. I hope I’m wrong, sorta. I say sorta because O’Donnell seems a really weak candidate to me, prone to public gaffes and statements which make her look bad. . .but we don’t have any other horse in the race now. I just don’t have much confidence she’ll be a very effective office-holder. Just one man’s opinion.
No. That is exactly my point. Even if the ‘moderate’ dems are somewhat more comfortable with a marxist extremist than they are with O’Donnell, the politics make it make more sense for them to pick O’Donnell, since she will be much, much, much more easily removed 48 months later.
If you are saying that my thesis will fail if the moderate dems fail to recognize Coons is a marxist and therefore, being dems, they will see O’Donnell as far more extreme, then you are probably right. My thesis was based on the possibility they would smell him out.
If elected, Coons will be an entrenched incumbent four years from now. It will be nearly impossible to oust him in the dem primary, even if he has shown himself to be the extremist he is. A challenger would have to win 51% against an incumbent of their own party who has been buying favors for 4 years and will be defended fanatically by all of the Forces of Darkness.
And this year in which an O’Donnell has even a remote chance of winning in a place like Delaware is a once in a century thing. Castle might take him, but 4 years is a long time to expect Castle will wait, cooling his heels. And Castle is the only R who would have a prayer.
True. We’re both just making educated guesses at best.
But that is irrelevant to the thesis. No one will expect her to last more than 48 months except, maybe, those who believe what they think they hear God telling them.
I am sorry you don’t think it works that way. That is the problem with Moral Relativism: it infects the mind and damages the moral center.
Well, it certainly is a good thing The Founding Fathers saw things a little more State-ist vs Freedom.
But really, when will you decide that there is “a line they can’t cross”?
I don’t really care what your answer is… I am a tired old man. I am not long for this world, Sirrah — 2 major strokes, cancer, and if I look intently I can see the O-mobile coming down the street to “reclaim the carbon” I’m wasting with each breath.
But, I remember when things were positive/negative, black/white, good(support and grow Freedom)/bad(enslaves the mind & spirit).
But you should ask yourself. When will you say “Enough”? Do you think that the people who went into Public Service were always as today? If you do, you don’t know history. We can only change this trend, avert tyranny, if we will not compromise Virtue. If we can’t insist on Honesty from our leaders, (and RINOs are by definition DISHONEST, or they couldn’t get elected…), then we might as well “climb in the hole and start pulling the dirt in after us”, because in that event we’ve ALREADY LOST.
What is more important: tallying “R”s or pushing back the encroachment of government occurring at all levels?
Go along to get along, (…it is the RINO way…) Peace at any price? Perhaps: A little RINO here, a little RINO there… no one will care! They’re only stealing a little of our Freedom! We’ll never miss it! So, where is the line? What is your Liberty (and that of your relations) worth to you?
I am tired of this. I know from history of what has happened in other places, what I have witnessed in my long life, and the information coming to light now (Glenn Beck has it mostly right about the history, folks!) that most of the people with your professed view have, as their motive to hobble those trying to restore the Republic to its Constitutional Limits. Whether for Love of Tyranny or personal aggrandizement or pure perversion, it matters not: the results are the same.
Perhaps you feel that “it can never happen here”: secret police, a “snitch squad”, government informants everywhere… if you are under such misapprehensions, please disabuse yourself of such silly notions — because it has happened here before, and is coming again soon. Time is running out.