Hmmm: What did Mike Castle talk about with Obama and Biden last night?
It’s been 24 hours since Delaware GOP Senate primary winner Christine O’Donnell dethroned nine-term Soros Republican incumbent Mike Castle. As of tonight, he still hadn’t placed an obligatory call to congratulate her — and his e-mail to supporters doesn’t mention her at all, according to the Delaware News Journal.
Even more intriguingly, the paper tweets that Castle’s lines of communication worked quite smoothly when he took calls from…President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden last night:
Does this White House see Castle as their newly adopted “pet?”
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Frenchman on the “Castle” wall,
“I fart in your general direction”.
Have some CLASS “Mr” Castle, congratulate her, as a gentleman would, and move on.
Can the Sand Castle shift his sand to his real party in time for the election? If not, what benefit is it for the ObamiNation to court him? It’s not like Pelosi needs his vote for anything.
Of course, that news has a benefit for those of us who are trying to get the recalcitrant Establishment on board the O’Donnell Express.
I don’t understand the Delaware GOP taking the position they have. Did they miss the fact that voters are ticked at their anti-conservatism?
debriefing?
My guess is that they are trying to convince him to run as a independent to siphon votes from O’Donnel in exchange for either a Czarship or one of those “unpaid” positions they offered Sestak.
Do I hear another Charlie Crist joke coming?
That is a good question. You have to wonder what they were talking about.
They must have wanted him to endorse Coons. . . Karl Rove might as well go ahead and endorse the D because he makes it quite clear that he is not going to vote for O’Donnel.
I wish I knew why Rove cared so much. It has to be his ego, but he certainly is not without fault. How many soldiers died under his watch? We didn’t have to send our military, and we can still deal with the threat without military if we are willing to use the state department to create the most effective fence in history.
I really think Ron Paul is going to be the R nominee. For one, the D’s and Obama would want it. But for two, the structure of this movement points to a Ron Paul type primary winner. The mistake most pollsters make is in polling the nation. But you need to poll Iowa, then New Hampshire, then South Carolina.
Anyway, I don’t really care one way or the other. It is just amazing that Rove has shown his A$$ after getting his way most of the last decade. I never understood why he got so much praise anyway. . . what did he ever do?
Whatever the conversations, it is highly inappropriate for this guy (supposedly a “loyal” party man) to be discussing anything with these two Democrat wonks (the most respectable term that I can think of that describes the P and VP). It sounds like we have another Arlin Specter on our hands–and I’m sure that there’s a “place” for Castle inside of their “big tent” of central-planning big-government-types.
Good riddance.
Completely plausible.
We are living amongst demons, indeed. obama is a dark soul of hate. And now that we know his fat-azzed wife hates being first lady, I suggest we vote them out and make her happy.
Onama: “If you run as an independent, I’ll support you.
Castle: Great – kick a man when he’s down.”
Obama: “No seriously, and btw, I like your tiny burgers.”
Biden: “Hello”
Castle: “Hello, who is this?”
Biden: “The smartest man in the room”
Castle: “Great, now Hillary’s calling.”
A new Czar or adviser would be my guess.
I think we are going to see the same process in two years with Scott Brown as with Mike Castle.
Excellent point.
Agents, double agents, spies, moles, traitors. The people running our country have all gone insane. While they play their little games with each other, the greatest nation known to mankind is going right down the drain. It really is sickening.
The topic…
Support for some nefarious lame duck session legislation. Looking for those willing to go scorched earth on their way out the door.
Or – they’re trying to talk him out of doing that because his lib feathers could drain more lib votes away from Chris Coons than he will from her.
All of this tied together, and with the anti-Midas touch of 0brother should hurl O’Donnell over the finish line with a win.
All this is shaking out not to be R versus D. But the People versus the Establishment. Wow.
Bring it on, fools.
Clearly the White House
Thinks that Castle can be turned.
And I think they’re right…
Maybe there was a “deputy sheriff” position opening on the stimulus?
C’mon guys, they’re just buying shrimp!
#21 Gridlock
Turned to a Democrat-caucusing liberal from a … what?
In the clear light of morning after the angst of upset and revolution, I see now that I was wrong. The players have all revealed themselves to the audience.
Rove proves a dork. Castle proves even his most vehement critics had understated their cases against him. O’Donnell proves … eh.
Clearly the argument that speaks for her is simply “not Castle”. And I guess that’s good enough.
The self anointed “ruling class” are the biggest bunch of sore losers, and arrogant a-holes I’ve ever seen.
When they act as they do, they are not just thumbing their noses at their opponents. They are thumbing their noses at “We The People”, too.
Man, we need to revert to the good old, tar-and-feather days, and ride these jerks out on a rail!
probably offering him a job… after he switches parties.
Aw, isn’t that sweet! BO will have a playmate and someone to keep him company on Airforce 1. It’s been terribly lonely for him on those solo flights.
Rinnnnnnng…
Castle: “Rove and I want a recount, O’Donnell!”
Obama: “Is this Cracker Castle? Hey, I’m sitting here with McCain, Graham, Snow, Collins, Murkowski, Specter, Scozzafava and Messiah Number 2 Crist. How would you like to visit the White House to be sized and fitted for a Darth Vader outfit party? Come to the Dark Side, cracker.”
Castle: “You mean I can be a Black Panther?”
Biden: “Heck, you can become a transgender hermaphrodite woman under page 2188 of ObamaCare for former DC politicians. You can have it all, Castle.”
Obama: “Rove and I were upset that RINO Castle was unlawfully poached by the Tea Party. You guys are becoming an endangered species, cracker. Cass Sunstein will regulate the poacher Tea Party out of existence by my executive order. But in the mean time, come on over and have some Kool-Aid. I want to pimp you out in November.
Castle: “Yes my Lord.” *heavy breathing
Yepper, my guess too.
Of course Castle will never do it. /sarc
Rove will say it’s O’Donnell’s/Palin’s fault.
Obama and Biden want Castle to pull a Scozzafava and endorse the Democrat in the DE Senate race, saying that O’Donnell is “too extreme”.
Castle will endorse Coons, as that is how sore losers react these days: a stab in the back to their opponent, and the ultimate betrayal of their party and supporters.
Meanwhile, in Florida, Crist, the worthless orange harpy, will endorse Meeks and become a Democrat… remaining a winner in his own kumquat mind.
Predictably, Castle will follow Specter and Crist and become an ally of the liberals. I’m expecting an appointment by Obama any day now.
That’s a direct quote, grammatical errors and all, from the
“Defeating the Ultra-Right” section of the Communist Party Program.
People like Palin and O’Donnell scare the crap out of the Democratic Socialist Communists. THAT is why Palin and O’Donnell are so hated by the far left.
Ponder that for a while.
That is the true agenda of the modern-day Democrat[ic Socialist Communist] Party.
And sadly, many RINOs support that agenda, too.
They truly want to replace capitalism with socialism, and they actively seek to “do away with” the “threat” of “ultra-right” conservatives.
It’s no joke that Bill Ayers actively planned for the extermination of 25 Million capitalists.
It’s no joke that Bill Ayers is a lot more than just “some guy in Obama’s neighborhood”. Ayers is a close friend of Obama, and helped Obama write “Dreams From My Father”.
Ayers is a Violent, Revolutionary Communist. What is Obama?
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I don’t think so.These primaries prove that the people of this country will not let it happen.
The sad part is that Palin and O’Donnell are equally hated by the establishment Republicans. It’s no damned wonder the country is in such bad shape. Those running this country today are shredding the Constitution for their own self serving desires.
Castle is just one of many stealth Marxist Democrats posing as Republicans.
Whether we win or lose going forward, all RINOs must be taken out in the primaries. It is one of many steps in draining the cesspool. I don’t use the word swamps because swamps are beautiful natural wonders. It would be an insult to Nature and Nature’s God to associate a swamp with Democrats.
Aloha #13 LOL. Soldier, nail on head.
continued… he is just the latest
molerat to be exposed.Good possibility. And he will be handsomely rewarded for doing so.
And why is that?
In my opinion, it’s because the “establishment Republicans” hate God as much as the Democratic Socialists do.
Neither the “establishment Republicans” nor the Democratic Socialists want to see Bible-believing Christians serving in our Government.
One would think that Rove would be on our side, but after his departure from the Bush administration, it appears that he is not.
Has he gone to the Dark Side?
On September 16th, 2010 at 12:50 am, AlohaGuy said:
It took me a second and then I burst out laughing…
… White Castle …
But, is he a “typical white Castle”???
“I like your tiny burgers.”
Does Obama like his buns?
I don’t think he ever left.
Kevin Lomax: What are you?
John Milton: Oh, I have so many names…
Kevin Lomax: Satan.
John Milton: Call me Dad.
Works for me.
“Castle is just one of many stealth Marxist Democrats posing as Republicans.”
Based on his voting record I’d have to agree.
Democrats will vote for Castle too.
Pod people. Who knows what they’re up to. All we can assume is that it’s not good.
I think this is a good possibility. Makes sense.
I get angry when I hear the lefties on MSM refer to normal, ordinary Conservatives as “extreme right”. Since when did people who believe in high moral standards, small government, honesty and fiscal responsibility become “extreme”? I’ll tell you…when the progressives started coming out of the woodwork spewing their ideology and brainwashing the masses. Now, anyone even a tiny bit right of center is considered a radical. Their propaganda campaign has worked so well! We have to call them out whenever we hear that garbage. Don’t just let it pass any more. Get in their faces and set them straight.
Another thing…these so-called republicans who end up being liberals…can we be reimbursed for the campaign contributions we gave them through the RNC? I feel like I have been robbed.
I’d agree with that.
Or…. his Handlers are telling him to return to base.
That’s what I was thinking reading one news report after another referring to Castle as “one of the more moderate” Republicans in the House. Moderate? He’s liberal even by Nancy Pelosi standards.
BTW, the word “gridlock” is already in all Dem talking points today. It’s already Nov. 3 for them. They aren’t even waiting for the election.
But we’re supposed to vote for him because, because, you know, he’s not a Dem.
I wonder…do they have a meeting every morning just to pick out their talking points for the day? It is actually funny. They apparently don’t realize that using the same words on all the interviews comes across as rehearsed, and sounds as if they have all been programmed like robots. We should pick a “talking points” word of the day and play the drinking game with it. “Gridlock” is the word for today. Of course, my drink of choice is diet Barques.
“But we’re supposed to vote for him because, because, you know, he’s not a Dem.”
Ah so we demonstrate in two threads that you have a reading comprehension problem Rogue?
“gridlock”
And they shoot themselves in the feet again. Many of us view gridlock as a good and desirable thing!
-Truesoldier
If so, it’s only as an added backup measure. All indications are that they won’t need any assistance to beat her.
Let’s see…an admitted marxist who would vote for crap and tax, card check, amnesty, etc., further pushing our country over the cliff vs. a beautiful, articulate, Conservative Christian woman. Yeah, she should be easy to beat. What is wrong with that statement??? Arrrrggggg!!!!!!
Probably something like: “Hey Mike, do you have any dirt on O’Donnell you want to sell? We’ve still got some TARP funds sitting around….”
If you are a O’Donnell supporter, ignore the experts and work to get her elected. Action beats rhetoric. (Spock beats everything)
Less plausible theory: Insurance policy.
Coons has a large, but not necessarily insurmountable lead in the polls, so it’s in the donks’ best interest to continue to foment division within the Delaware Republicans. What Castle’s role would be in such a plan, I won’t speculate.
More plausible theory: simply a call to say “Thank you for your past support.”
If he had won the primary you would be the first in line to support the stealth Marxist Democrat posing as a Republican.
– happyscrapper
Mortgage defaults? IRS liens? These are things that members here have repeatedly bashed liberals for, but O’Donnell gets a pass because she’s a “beautiful, articulate, Christian woman”. Convenient, that. Oh, it’s no problem. She can’t handle her own fiscal affairs, but she’s going to improve fiscal matters for the nation. Sure. On top of that, she’s extreme to a nearly comic degree on soc-con issues, which will doubtless end up alienating large portions of the independent (and even conservative) electorate? She won the primary with 30,000 votes. Not BY 30,000 votes. Oh yeah, she’s gonna be REAL tough for the Dems to beat. That seat went from being “Leans Republican” to “Likely Democrat” overnight. Seems like “admitted marxist” is (at least in the polls) as sure-fire victor over “seems crazy”.
And in December, when her Democrat foe is comfortably in his seat having handily defeated this woman who is arguably the least qualified candidate running for the office, there will doubtless be some here who tut-tut and find some reason to claim it’s because she wasn’t conservative enough.
I read that Castle voted for Cap and Trade!!!! That doesn’t reflect what the Republicans are saying…. any of them. Love to know all the reasons the voters left him behind…I’m sure there’s more.
If Castle already is making a deal with the devil, the voters were absolutely correct in voting him out. He just re-affirmed their vote.
So was Obama.
-txvet2
Yep. And look where that has landed us.
Thank you for emphasizing my point. Sure, we’re all pissed at the way things have been going. But it doesn’t mean we should turn around and accept a terrible candidate, simply because she’s not a part of the establishment we blame for getting us there.
Why did Obama and Biden speak with Castle?
To mock O’Donnel and her supporters as dumb hicks who cling to their Religion, their guns, and who are a afraid of people who look different from them.
Next, Castle will either campaign for Democrat Chris Coons as the Savior of Mankind # 2, or Castle will run in his place, or Castle will change parties and run as a spoiler to siphon off votes from O’Donnel, and hand the election to Coons, a bit of spiteful revenge at losing to that “dumb, lying hick, Tea Party supported extremist conservative bi@#h.”
I believe that she is addressing the issues of her past, both on her website and on various appearances. Until then, I refuse to slander her and will continue to give her the benefit of the doubt. I do the same with everyone, even progressives…until I see the proof of true wrongdoing and not just rumors put out by the other parties.
By the way, judging from the way the MSM and the left trashed Sarah Palin and her whole family, I expect they will do the same to Christine O’donnell. I pray she is as strong as Sarah.
Happy, don’t you, also, find that a few commenters here post in an agitprop manner, that sure gives the impression of an intent to confuse, divert, disrupt, derail, hobble, etc. the conservative effort to save and protect America; under the guise of a “warning”, or of “advice”?
Yes Happy, they do. I’ve mentioned before I was in the presence of a Dem staffer as he burned through two cell phones on a multi-hour talking points planning session. They live and breathe all of this. The less clever show up on talk shows and recite the points no matter the question.
MSM: “How are you today?”
Less: “Bush did it too.”
On September 16th, 2010 at 1:23 pm,
Why yash, yash I do!!
-happyscrapper
You can read my comments, look into what I have said, and make an informed decision knowing that you have. Or you can simply rationalize away any dissenting opinion as “agitprop” (as granite puts it). You decide for yourself which route is wise.
Call it what you want, I won’t abandon critical thought out of anger with the elected status-quo. Nor will I dance a happy little jig over the nomination of a candidate who sounds just plain awful to me. . .especially when it looks as if the nomination of that candidate is going to result in an additional seat for the Dems. If you or others think that’s “agitprop” so be it. It’s not going to cow me into silence, and it’s far from the worst I’ve been called here.
I’ve always thought of conservativism as couched in logic and fact. I consider rationalism and conservativism inextricably linked, in fact. But comments like this lead me to believe we’re heading down a road leading away from rationality, and towards the sort of feel-based decision making I’ve always associated with liberals.
Hmm. Could they be asking if he will switch parties and replace the Bearded Marxist for the General Election? Can O’Donnell beat him again if he runs as a Dem?
Curiouser and curiouser…
Castle will be the new “Pro-Masturbation” Czar.
Obama: “Dude, you suck at lying. I already defriended you on Facebook.”
Biden: “You needed to focus more on that three letter word—J-O-B-S, like the articulate African-American always says.”
Odonnell was so graqcious on Hannity last night. She even gave Karl Rove an out for his insane rant the night before. Then Greta had Rove on where he could save himself and he stepped right back in it with “facts” of her bad character. Of course, the adjectives he used to describe her were all ad hominim attacks. He couldn’t even pretend to be civil about it. What a jerk. I liked her though. She seemed very thoughtful, pleasant, gracious and nice. Her policies also sound good.
And why was Castle in a video saying he never voted to impeach Bush but that Odonnell put that out there 2 days before the election to smear him. Did he or didn’t he? And hey, if its a blue state, wouldn’t that be a plus for him? Oh not in the primary. Run one way in the primary and another in the general. And if you lose, switch parties.
Maybe Obama offered Castle “Czar of Delaware” since he is handing out czarships again.
So applying your critical thinking skills, who do you think is worse for the country: O’Donnell, with all her faults (real or imagined), or the Marxist?
Gee – do you think the would-be Senator from the Great State of DUPONT might feel the need to co-ordinate with the Global Warmer in Chief?
They were really counting on an instantly seated Republican to join with Graham and McCain for the lame duck passage of cap and trade.
My opinion: They promised a job, if he would assist them in their Lame Duck, final push to destroy Amerrica Legislation.
-Card Check
-Cap and Trade (Though he already was onboard).
-Global IMF Redistribution of America’s wealth.
-Global Abortion funding.
- Blackstone
Ok, looked at objectively, this one is easy. With the “marxist”, we had a candidate who was favored to win the seat, and who has a 52% conservative voting record. We don’t know what O’Donnell’s record would be, but it can be safely assumed to be more conservative. . . but that means nothing if she doesn’t get elected. Because then we’re stuck with the Democrat’s voting record, which can be safely assumed to be substantially less conservative than Castle’s.
So the real choice you’re asking here, is who would be worse for the country, Castle, with a 52% conservative record, or his Democrat foe, with a far far more liberal record. Now that Castle’s out of the picture, it’s most likely going to be the Democrat winning the seat (heck, even most of the conservative pundits cited on RealClearPolitics acknowledge that).
So yes, I think the “marxist” would have been better for the country, because then we would have had a conservative vote from that seat 52% of the time, instead of almost NONE of the time. . .which is what we will see with a Democrat sitting in that seat. Conservatives will miss that vote sometime in the next 2 years, when they need that 1 more vote to pass something important, or to block/repeal something equally important.
You have to look at the whole picture, not just how much you like Castle, vs. how much you like O’Donnell.
Blackstone, I just realized. I’m not sure who you meant by “The Marxist”. Were you referring to O’Donnell’s primary opponent Castle, or her Democrat opponent Coons?
I assumed you meant Castle (based on the names often flung here at any elected conservative with less than a 99.99% conservative voting record).
So at any rate, when I refer to “the marxist” in my last post, I’m actually referring to Castle, not Coons. Hope that clears up any confusion.
Lol, I also just noticed that Charles Krauthammer is voicing exactly the same concerns over O’Donnell’s nomination as I am.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/16/AR2010091604899.html
He cites the Buckley rule. . .vote for the most conservative candidate who is electable.
“Of course Mike Castle is a liberal Republican. What do you expect from Delaware? A DeMint? Castle voted against Obamacare and the stimulus. Yes, he voted for cap-and-trade. That’s batting .667. You’d rather have a Democrat who bats .000 and who might give the Democrats the 50th vote to control the Senate? ”
Of course, he makes the argument more eloquently than I can.
I was talking about Coons. The primary’s over, in case you hadn’t heard.
And it’s awfully interesting that you acknowledged that possibility, but couldn’t seem to fit enough room in your post for a simple answer indicating which of the two you support.
Cap and trade is the worst the democrats have to offer. Much worst then Obamacare.
C&T seeks to “solve” a problem that doesn’t exist, making everyone’s life miserable in the bargain.
Obamacare might actually help some people. Cap and trade is all drain.
That thing about getting a majority in the Senate. Last week the GOP establishment wouldn’t even express hope that they would take the House.
Rightly so. They won’t take the house without tea party candidates.
I don’t give a rats ass what Krauthammer or Rove have to say on the matter.
They both are forgetting who made their mad hopes possible.
I’d prefer they just say “thank you”.
If they can’t muster up that, I’d prefer the STFU.
– Blackstone
I figured my follow-up post indicating that I thought you were referring to Castle would have made it clear the reasons for that. Yes I know that the primary is over. Too bad, because if it weren’t there’d still be a chance of that seat going to someone who at least votes conservative half the time in November. Not anymore.
At any rate, I’d favor O’Donnell over Coons. Simple enough for you? On the other hand, I’d favor Castle over O’Donnell any day, as he was electable, and she almost certainly is not.
And that’s all that should matter at this point. Fighting yesterday’s war isn’t going to help you win this one.
You say you’re interested in taking a rational approach. How rational is it to keep on like this? You sound like you’re not even willing to give her a chance to defend herself from the attacks against her.
Not that it matters, as I’m in no position to vote for her or against her (not from Delaware). . .
But she’s welcome to defend herself. I’d be overjoyed to hear a rational explanation for some of the irrational stuff she’s said over the years.
And to be realistic, I’m not fighting yesterday’s battles. I’m trying to point out what I feel was a serious mistake, in hopes that we as conservatives can avoid repeating it.
Right, nice dodge. Not being from Delaware hasn’t stopped you from commenting loudly on the primary election, even after it’s over. Yet for some reason it stops you from wanting to do anything to help our side win in the general.
Yes, against attacks that you participate in. Funny, that.
If that’s really your objective, there’ll be more than plenty of time for that after November’s election. There’ll be plenty of people reading the tea leaves then to see what was done right and what was done wrong.
But right now, there’s an election fight to win. You say it was irrational to damage the chances of that happening by nominating O’Donnell. How is that any more irrational than your damaging the chances of it by (effectively) taking the Dems’ side?