Ladies of the Right vs. Beltway GOP boyz club; Plus: Fire From the Heartland
The times they are a-changin’ — and it’s ladies of the Right who are kicking ass and naming names.
Five items for your viewing and reading pleasure:
* Jeri Thompson smacks GOP poobahs and pooh-pooh-ers upside the head:
While they may not be intending to be sexist, the message, the attitude and whining sure make many in the GOP look eerily like the elites we are trying so hard to usurp. The sexism issues aside, it’s time for the Washington GOP establishment to man up and stop sulking over losing — no, getting walloped — by a woman they continue to insist is unqualified despite the fact that she has a pretty big win under her belt under pretty difficult circumstances.
I might point out that being trounced by an unqualified (they think) opponent is more a reason, not less, to humbly buck up, congratulate her and move forward. Frankly, it seems an emotional response. Strange, huh? This behavior does not play well with the very grassroots voters they are counting on to put them over the top in November. It’s time they understood these are different grassroots from anything the D.C. crowd has dealt with before.
The fact is, despite all of the Beltway Boys’ attempts to co-opt the Tea Party movement — which to my way of thinking is really a revitalized conservative movement under a much bigger tent — the movement has refused to play the Washington game.
When self-anointed “tea party leaders” have attempted to direct the movement, the citizens themselves have been savvy enough to sniff out many of the charlatans and keep their grassroots organizations focused on achieving their goals of throwing the bums out of office where necessary and appropriate.
Perhaps the reaction to O’Donnell is the result of the Beltway Boys’ understanding that the movement that has been taking hold across the country really is out of their control. Or perhaps they really are intimidated by a woman who has already proven that she can do it without them.
* Debra J. Saunders calls out Big Government Eco-Radical Newt Gingrich:
This year, Gingrich is playing to the tea party crowd. He and his wife are about to release a new movie, “America at Risk” on national security threats. As a tea party courtier, he rails against carbon taxes. His political action committee has raised $250,000 from an Oklahoma natural gas and oil producer, and $100,000 from Arch Coal of St. Louis, Politco.com reported.
Two years ago, however, the Newter was seated on a loveseat next to Speaker Nancy Pelosi starring in TV ads for Al Gore’s global warming campaign. Quoth Gingrich, “We do agree, our country must take action against climate change.” And: “If enough of us demand action from our leaders, we can spark the innovation we need.”
Consider Gingrich to be the right’s Jerry Brown. Like the former and would-be next California governor, Gingrich talks big, but has no loyalty to his ideas. He was for tax cuts before he was against them. He supported a $35,000 congressional pay raise and leaner government.
Like Brown, Gingrich’s real skill has been in seeing a trend early and jumping on it, unencumbered by any past positions.
Then armed with a trendy vocabulary, Gingrich blusters on. During the National Review interview, he asserted Obama is “authentically dishonest.” Authentically dishonest? If anyone should know what that means, it’s probably Gingrich…
* Sarah Palin takes on Karl Rove and the good old boys:
* Christine O’Donnell on Castle’s petulance, Reid’s “pet,” and Rove’s attacks:
* And my comments on the death throes of the Old Guard — plus my call for conservatives to refuse to cede language to the “moooooderates” in the GOP who are anything but. Just say no to progressive wolves in elephants’ clothing:
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Related: Coming Sept. 22 via Citizens United…Fire From the Heartland: The Reawakening of the Conservative Woman
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Here’s another similar question gran… Did Christ’s payment for my sin pay that debt in full or do I need to accept His payment and then add to that payment my own “price”?
Answer to that question is a simple way to sort between two main schools of Christian thought.
“Christian-like…”???
“…belief systems….”?
Another hit.
It was not phrased like an honest question.
It was contentious and confrontational.
“I HATE THE GOP!!! ”
Yes we know Phil. So much so you’ll act like a spoiled brat and in doing so keep the left in power. As noted you are about you. Not what is good for the most of us and the country in general.
You are part of the problem. Nothing commendable about your position.
Your bias makes all your postings suspect.
Thanks for making it clear.
Is that the “step” of this place now? GOP haters?
It is general election time. I would hope that in each race where there is a RINO or a Democrat voters look at which candidate will best represent them and leave it at that.
I would not worry about national politics or how their vote may or may not result in a GOP majority or not.
In some cases the Dem may be best, in other cases the RINO. It is just going to depend. Blanket responses either way just seem too simplistic to me.
Gran…
You can not surmise my intention. Are you attempting to do so?
Yes, Christian like. Jehova Witnesses are not Christian. They are Christian like. Mormons are not Christian, they are Christian like.
You assume judgmental-ism.
Do you have a point beyond attempting to read my mind?
“Just like Michelle”
Michelle hates the GOP?
“will best represent them and leave it at that.”
Unfortunately this election is about more than that. Its about causing the Obama agenda to be impotent. There is more at stake this time than just ourselves.
Its not a good thing that this is the case. But it is none-the-less the reality of the thing.
I guess one can sorta compare it to FDR needing the Russians to win WWII.
Sucked. Reality however made the partnership necessary.
You forgot Mattie Fein, who is running against Jane Harman in CA, who just posted an Op-Ed on the subject at The Other McCain…
Mattie Fein to Old-Guard GOP: Wake the Hell Up!
Seems to be relevant.
http://sacredsandwich.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/moroni_beck_statue.jpg
Will be interesting to see if Michelle is a GOP hater. Pretty sure that isn’t the case and its Phil who is out of step about that. Really doesn’t matter too much though.
Admittedly it is hard to think of a scenario where a RINO is not preferred over a Democrat, because Democrats are like lemmings. A RINO who is with you 50% of the time is better than a Dem who never is.
But there are a few (very few) conservative minded Dems out there.
I’ll vote for the RINO and then if a conservative comes along later, nail the RINO in the primary.
is that what made FDR turn over eastern europe to Stalin? along with a whole lot of german POWs?
jsm: why don’t you just stick to misquoting the Bible. I’m sure I’m not the only one who really enjoys these insipid “Bible wars”.
hey Phil…in the thread about Reid’s pet….Swede blames you and me for Obama…
we’re the locus of evil in the modern world!!!
That is your “opinion”.
It’s my opinion.
I didn’t say 2+2=15.
You can certainly disagree with my opinion; but, please do not pronounce it “incorrect”.
I more accurately should have said that the tone of your comments is uncalled-for.
You are likely sincere in your interpretation and belief, which I respect.
So may be iam.
But, the tone of your comments was contentious and confrontational.
They remind me of one of Thelma Ritter’s lines in “All About Eve”.
Bette Davis asks Thelma Ritter a question.
Thelma Ritter replies: “Do you want an answer, or an argument?”
It certainly appears, from the tone of your comments, that you did not want simply an answer to them, but rather also invited an argument.
Cosmic, who’s the father?
Are you suggesting a hostile takeover of the republican party by conservatives?
I’m in!
The RINOs have nothing left in their arsenal than personal attacks and defective reasoning. They really need to take a time out and retrench.
I can’t tell the difference anymore between these guys and the Dems who are stuck on BDS. These guys wander from Hillary Derangement to Obama Derangement to Pasadena Phil Derangement and now Pasadena Phil and Friends Derangement.
You have to keep in mind the virulent hatred that is often on display in these threads, especially from Texans. It’s always about personal attacks. They are out of ammo. It’s the Alamo all over again.
Re “surmise”….
I’m not trying to guess anything.
I am describing the impression that your typed posts gave.
Regarding the Jehovah’s /Witnesses and the Mormons:
There is a less antagonistic and confrontational, yet no less strong and clear way to express your beliefs and opinions.
Surely you appreciate that.
That’s my point.
Solo said:
Freakin A!!
They always are.
If you’re not careful he’ll be calling you a traitor soon.
And then he said he couldn’t remember one of the single most egregious scandals in the history of the country… but I’d put him at dishonest more than dumb.
Seriously, can you watch Christine O’Donnell talk without thinking she’s the right’s answer to Jersey Shore?
And yesterday, someone attacked Rogue Cheddar by linking him with me. Apparently, I am the anchor they are trying to tie all of us Tea Party conservatives to and plan to throw us off of the GOP Titanic. No need. We aren’t on board and aren’t interested in boarding.
Red State Skeptic said:
Can you read something or listen to Obamas Science Czar and not think these are quotes from Josef Mengele:
1.People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
2)A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
Now remember RSS, IE Obamoron, this thing was appointed by your Little Caesar.
Keep up the good work.
With the results of Battleground Poll question D3 and your attitude, the future looks very bright indeed.
very true…apparently this stuff with the tea party has sent them over the edge…couple that with defending their faith (ie not wanting to offend islam in any way) and they’re foaming at the mouth!!
I thought you would be honored knowing that swede and the others are just obsessed with you!
oh well people are known by their enemies….and you (and me) have the right ones!
The country always polls more “conservative” than “liberal” because “conservative” is a label that appeals to people, not because people favor the politics of the right more than the left. The country polled more conservative than liberal during the 2008 election cycle even as it elected a wave of Democratic candidates who openly advocated a decidedly liberal agenda. I concede that the country is more conservative now than it was two years ago. I attribute that to the fact that there is a liberal Democrat in the White House during tough economic times, and people naturally want the opposite because they feel the grass is greener on the other side. But poll numbers indicate that people still disfavor enough conservative policies like extending tax cuts for the rich and open-ended war that I don’t believe we are seeing a significant turn towards the right. The Dems will still get creamed in November, but to me that’s due to Republicans having a fired up base, and inept Democrats in office. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see the country being sold on the Sarah Palin-Glenn Beck free market uptopia.
jsmiddleton said:
Michelle said:
I think Michelle’s made it clear how she feels about the GOP in its current form.
To steal (and amend) a gag line from Dan Riehl,
“They talk about me like a dog. It’s ruff! ruff! being me.”
Red State Skeptic said:
The Dems will still get creamed in November. Completely agree, that was the most lucid statement you have ever made.
Soooo, you’re claiming 2 things here–the ‘left’ and Snookie?
My take is somewhat different. Rush is right. If you run as a conservative you will win. My personally corallary is if you govern as a conservative you will be re-elected again.
Reagan won in 1980 winning 47 states, because Carter was a disaster and the economy stunk. After governing as a conservative for 4 years he won 49 of 50 states in 1984.
Both Bush’s never governed as conservatives. The results of their presidencies speak for themselves. People IMHO want conservative leadership and solutions; precisely the primnciples articulated by the Tea Party Movement.
I have been in leadership for a long time. The most important trait a leader can have is consistency. The GOP and their leaders have been anything but. They got the keys and fell prey to the temptations of power.
Can we avoid that this time? I pray we do. But it will take principled behavior and courage.
Very well said, Flyoverman.
Yeah, he probably shoulda used a smily but least he didn’t call Iam a traitor to Christ.
You are welcome, but in our own individual ways what I wrote is nothing more than people like you, happy, spacey, swede, John. right4life, Phil MajorO, purplepeep, solo, CO2 et. all (sorry if I didn’t mention you) have not all written in your own way.
We may fight on the “how” but on the “what,” I see little disagreement.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
How could I have forgotten Rogue?
Oh SNAP!!!!!!!!
No, she’s all yours.
But you really didn’t. No slight to acknowledge.
I agree that having principles that you can articulate is a winning formula, for left or the right, but you still have guys like Rick Santorum who crash and burn for being too ideological for voters.
Reagan was lucky enough to have one of the least popular presidents ever to unseat in 1980 and to have the economy rebound in time for the 1984 election (with a historically crappy opponent in Mondale). In fact, he spent a very good chunk of his presidency being unpopular, and his poll numbers roughly mirror Obama’s in his first two years.
There’s also the question of how a president who granted amnesty to illegals, supported an aggressively interventionist foreign policy, talked with our mortal enemies, and signed budget after budget that grew the national debt by leaps and bounds, can be considered a true conservative. He talked a good free market game, but his record indicates otherwise.
Would everyone please note that Gingrich is not a conservative. He is/was for Cap and Tax. He also really wants socialized medicine. If you look close at him he is more Dem than Rep.
Hey, now that’s the kind of unity talk that will take us to victory. Thanks for that, flyover.
That is an acknowledge danger RSS. i agree.
Look at Obama……. can’t fault his ability to communicate in campaign mode. He’s excellent.
jsmiddleton4 said:
“Yes, Christian like. Jehova Witnesses are not Christian. They are Christian like. Mormons are not Christian, they are Christian like.
You assume judgmental-ism.”
WOW! Nothing judgmental about that post!
So you must be Christlike in that you know the hearts of men…no?
By their fruits you will know them.
Your fruits are showing.
“Rush is right.”
I’m going to try and get through tomorrow on Open Line Friday. Rush’s Rule is fine and dandy in the primary. In the general he needs to make it clear as to whether or not the Rush Rule means don’t vote at all so in not voting Dems win by default.
He made it clear towards the end of today’s show that the priority this election is defeating Obama’s agenda. Well can’t do that if we let the left win.
He can speculate all he wants about what a Republican majority may or may not mean. I don’t need to speculate to know what a Democrat majority means. We’ve seen it for the last two years and it has to be stopped.
Not counting on getting through but would like to have that dialog with Rush.
“Nothing judgmental about that post!”
Nope, not in the least. Quite factual.
It would be judgmental to say because a person is a Mormon they are somehow less of a human being.
The facts are the facts. Mormonism, Jehovah Witnesses, etc., are considered Christian Cults. Have been for some time.
If you don’t that not sure what to tell you.
It is what it is however.
“By their fruits you will know them.”
Telling the truth is somehow “bad” fruit?
Seems to be truth telling is a very good fruit given that the truth sets us free.
Although according to Phil truth telling is out of step on MM lately.
“If you don’t that not sure what to tell you.”
Time to change batteries on my wireless keyboard me thinks.
If you don’t LIKE that not sure what to tell you.
I’m not trying to guess anything.
I am describing the impression that your typed posts gave.
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You just contradicted yourself gran….
I told you what my intention is and was. Its up to you to decide if you know better what my intention is and was or if I do. At this point you seem to think you own my communication.
Not sure what to tell you when you think you can decide by your impressions what I mean by my post.
I meant them exactly as I described. Very relevant and straightforward questions.
If that bothers you that’s about your interpretation of my posts not my actual posts.
Did not see the questions answered however so at this point not sure exactly where iam… is coming from.
He has a God-given knack for imparting upon the good voters of our great nation a message of his own superiority without ever saying anything of substance. He looks impressive on TV but is a terrible advocate for the policies he supports. His political career peaked in the 2008 primaries, when he played to the only voters he understands, the Democratic Party’s liberal base. Wait, he understands conservatives too. He knows that you all bitterly cling to your backwards God and guns.
I will say though Neo your line of reasoning is quite familiar. It is the same line of reasoning or way of thinking that allows the left to call us racist if we tell the truth about Obama’s agenda.
If I tell the truth about which belief system is considered a Christian cult or Christian “like” then I’m not being Christ like; I am bearing bad fruit and I am judgmental.
See the same way of thinking?
Maybe I am out of step here on MM. Its a GOP hating forum because its full of people who think like the left? Maybe truth telling really is out of step here?
Could that be?
I sure hope not. Would be a sad day indeed.
When have the Democrats ever nominated a candidate who was not an “historically crappy opponent???”
Sure, sometimes the GOP has managed to pick one that’s even worse, but, let’s face reality, every Democrat candidate since the 18th century should have been squashed like a bug.
And they should have lost the elections, too.
Some would believe that what makes one a Christian is Christ-like behavior or love for ones fellow man. This to me would be an example of a follower of Christ. To not only profess a belief but to show fruit by actually following his example in your daily life. Your belief may differ. I don’t see anything Christlike about labeling other faiths as cults and their believers as cultists. You should read the story about the good Samaritan. I don’t remember Christ condemning that man to hell because he did not perform the one work, the one ordinance that separates an infant that will burn in hellfire for all eternity and a lifetime sinner that says the one prayer with his dying breath who now inherits all of the rewards of a perfect life.
When a man professes to “Believe” in something but has no fruits would we do well to follow his advice? I think not.
I am definitely not ‘mainstream’ when it comes to christianity, but I think this is a good time to remind you that G-d will not be mocked.
Nothing judgmental at all, NeoFan. All of the people who call themselves “Christian” are really just trying to be “Christian-like.”
I thought everyone knew that.
Other than Catholics, of course. The Pope says so. Or at least he used to say so, back before they started picking “Christian-like” Popes.
Is God-given from the backwards God or is this the forward one?
Who cares about substance; he’s a politician.
I hope The One relaizes two things:
1) Since our God is omnipotent is does not matter what direction he is pointing.
2) In a totally worst case situation when all else fails, we are excellent shots.
Roland, js, Neo,
None of you will never understand the true meaning of the Bible until you have read it in the original German.
Newt, Rove Steele, the whole big boys club is the reason I am only giving locally or to qualified conservatives whether backed by Beltway crowd or not. They are sounding much like the party we are trying to hard to get rid of. Power corrupts
Massachusetts elected a cultist as their governor? Utah’s a cult? Trey and Matt warned us, but we wouldn’t listen.
Is “G**” the new N word? I’m not mocking God, just the president. I’m a pretty “mainstream” Catholic. Unless mainstream Catholic means Christine O’Donnell, of course.
so are you admitting to something here??
Women are slowing reforming Islam. Next, the GOP.
I guess I just see Christian as a verb and not a noun.
Red State Skeptic said:
No, more like this person, you know the most ethical congress ever.
Eleanor Holmes Norton, the District of Columbia’s lone Congressional representative, asking an unidentified lobbyist for a contribution.
Isn’t that a no no, oh wait only when you are not a Democrat. But if you are, sweep it under the rug and deflect.
Um, sure you are. As in most cases when a liberal has no understanding, they mock. G_d is a form of respect. Of course, we don’t expect someone like you to understand…
“Progressive wolves in Elephant’s clothing.”
Quote from Michelle Malkin’s appearance from the Sean Hannity program video clip above.
Very nice, Michelle!
I am not concerned about your intention(s).
I stand by my statement that your comments, whatever your intention(s) were; were unnecessarily contentious and confrontational.
You, as well as the rest of the readers/bloggers at this thread, are free to agree or disagree with my assessment.
It’s that simple: no more; no less.
“I am not concerned about your intention(s).”
I’ve already made that point for you gran…
You are only concerned with what your imagine a post to mean. You have no desire to let the owner of the message actually own the message. The only thing that matters to you is you usurping the message.
I understand and I agree with you.
You don’t care what my intention is or intentions are.
Of course that violates the foundational principles of communication but I understand you don’t care.
C02…
Yes, Mormonism is a Christian cult.
Has been classed as such for a long time.
Sorry if that is somehow news to you.
The world is round as well.
“I don’t see anything Christlike about labeling other faiths as cults and their believers as cultists.”
I encourage you then not to actually read the Bible.
Jesus spends a lot of time talking about dividing sheep from goats. Epistles full of warnings about folks in sheep’s clothing perverting the truth.
The core of Christian theology has been recognized for many centuries. As those who do not hold to those core beliefs being considered Christian cults.
Jesus’s own words.
Matt 7:15-23
15″Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21″Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
A must listen from Mark Levin for all you Texans (mostly) who hate California.
There are no blue states or red states. It’s all in our minds.
And to be sure that I’m not cherry picking Bible verses and taking something out of context. Here’s what Peter has to say about such matters in its entirety. Peter is quite clear about the matter that these is truth and there will be a perversion of the truth. There is Christ and there will be Christ-like. One good, one not so good. Peter really softens the blow hey? All gentle and tolerant of him….
2 Peter 2
False Teachers and Their Destruction
1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them into gloomy dungeons[b] to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.[c] 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature[d] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord. 12But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast without speech—who spoke with a man’s voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 20If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[f]and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/
Best guy I can recommend because of his history in India and the fact that he is flat out amazing is Ravi Zacharias.
http://www.rzim.org/
If you really are interested please feel free to get started learning something. Or you can continue to act like my telling the truth means somehow I’m less Christ like.
Your call.
On September 16th, 2010 at 4:25 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
Using that logic, some Republican is going to “get lucky” in 2012.
Excellent, even Snooki knows Obama is a loser. Note that the tax failed – she switched to something not subject to the tax increase. So much for the Harvard guy’s (lack of) understanding of even basic economics.
Quote: “Jersey Shore” star Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi is getting into politics.
The pint-sized reality star voiced her disappointment in Obama’s tax plan, saying John McCain wouldn’t have done that.
“I don’t go tanning anymore because Obama put a 10 percent tax on tanning … And I feel like he did that intentionally for us,” Snooki said in the Season 2 preview, before her boyfriend spritzed her with a fake tan spray.
Endquote
And lucky enough to run on the coattails of one of the greatest Presidents of the 20th century 4 years later.
+1!
Hey “progressives”…
source please.
Good one, very good one.
That wasn’t the only reason Santorum crashed and burned. His support of Specter in the primary (really pi$$ed me off because we had Arlen on the ropes before he and Dubya came to his rescue) and all things Bush cost him big time. Not saying he would’ve won…Just saying you can’t kick your base in the groin and expect them to be happy about it. Some conservatives abandoned him because he abandoned them.
Concur.
Take his word for it…That’s all he’s got.
On the most important issue confronting the United States, namely tort reform, Christine O’Donnell takes the liberal position. You can’t call yourself conservative and then file a totally frivolous lawsuit. If you are not in favor of curtailing junk lawsuits, then don’t call yourself a conservative. Christine O’Donnell’s lawsuit reads like something the ACLU could dream up. It was nothing more than a legalized shakedown. Memo to Ms. O’Donnell: You can’t say “I’m a conservative except on issues of lawsuits. Then I am a liberal”. O’Donnell’s attempts to carve out an exception for lawsuits diminishes O’Donnell’s credibility. It is just plain silly.
Give it up, Marc. You’re not fooling anyone. Go send a donation to the Marxist.
Ever the fool. I don’t dislike California, quite the opposite. It has some of the most beautiful scenery on the face of the Earth, and I enjoyed my time there immensely. It’s idiot leftist Californians who have turned the state into an economic basket case that I have no use for. I wouldn’t much care about them either, if they’d just stay there, and they didn’t tax us to bail you out. On the other hand, your hatred of Texas is so often stated, that I assume we can rely on you to stay there until it sinks into the ocean, for which we will be eternally grateful (that you’re staying, not that California is sinking).
jsmiddleton4 said:
You are correct–on that first part, anyway. According to my Random House Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary (circa 2001), the first definition of “cult” is as follows:
So does this not mean that all religions are cults? All Christians are supposed to pray, and I believe that is a rite. Religions (and cultures) have their own burial ceremonies, wedding ceremonies, baptism ceremonies, etc. Mind you, that definition does not have negative connotations.
Or were you referring to definition six:
Romney, the 60 percent or so of Utah residents, and many, many other Mormons aren’t exactly hiding. They’re more out in the open than the Amish. I don’t often hear of the latter group being classed as a cult. Maybe this flat-earther missed it.
But if this is how the word “cult” is now defined (where false, unorthodox, or extremist members don’t necessarily live outside the conventional world), is not Catholicism a cult as much as Mormonism? Don’t many consider the Rosary with its plea to the Virgin Mary; the veneration of the saints; man’s interpretations of the Bible as written in catechisms; and other biblical derivatives as unorthodox at best, maybe even verging on false idolatry? And isn’t the Pope the leader of the Catholic congregation? Are these the traits of a “Christian-like” religious cult?
What about Pentacostalism? Sarah Palin was (is?) Pentacostal, yet some Pentacostals practice snake handling. Is Sarah Palin a cultist?
Is the name of Joseph Smith synonymous with Jim Jones, Shoko Asahara, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, or Charles Manson? What level of extreme is Mormonism—the “killing ‘em with kindness” extreme?
For one who recites Bible passages at length, it would prove useful to practice more of the Bible’s teachings. Or do you thrive on the nasty tone of this exchange? Very “Christian-like” but not very Christian, if that’s the case.
I will apologize for the South Park reference no one seemed to get. However, I will not apologize for urging inward critical analysis.
Yes, it’s off topic….
3 things about Islam
I have no idea how true this is, but it is interesting and you should see it before youtube removes it for some obscure reason…
Dang, two conversations at once. Fascinating, both of them.
Sarah Palin.
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I have no idea.
Translation help…Somebody?…Anybody?
More power to these conservative women! Those who are trying to destroy them are telling us a lot about themselves and their motives.
We have an opportunity to unseat a Democrat carpetbagger with a really good local person. This person did not want to run, but eventually decided it was a duty to do so.
I do not like hierarchies whether in government or religion. A recent e-mail said they only time we can look down on a fellow man is when we are lifting him up. Obama – and pictures of him – should look us in the eye and not down his nose.
How many impeachable offenses does it take to stop him now?
Michelle: You communicate with and are on fox regularly, so would you please ask Gretchen (who is the only one on the curvy couch with stones) to next week when they have that putz Gerry on why he loves and supports a tax cheating congressman (rangel) and says O’Donnell couldn’t be elected dogcatcher. Rangel is a crook, I don’t think losing one’s house is now criminal, because I know of several California congressmen who have done that also. To say that having financial troubles is morally worse than cheating the taxpayers of the U.S. at every turn shows what an anti-white bigot Gerry is.
They don’t understand good economics yet, but that might be changing now that Obama has proven that Keynes was an idiot.
Dude, both wars are Obama’s wars now. And his Democrat controlled Congress are funding it for him. I’m not sure anyone blames the right. In fact, I think many are now realizing that the Democrats were unfairly blaming Republicans for something which was bi-partisan policy.
Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth is how I perceive the doctrine of jsmiddleton4. If I compare the gospel of Jesus Christ, the example he set by the way he lived his life and the way you relate to others I see no similarities. I wouldn’t waste my time going to your websites so that I can learn how to categorize and judge the eternal position of my fellow man. If what you have is “Truth” then I want no part of it. You are a great example of the arrogance and hypocrisy of so called “Christians”. The mere act of going around telling everyone you are a “Christian” says it all. Real Christians don’t need to tell anyone what they are because everyone can tell by the way they treat others. They are busy doing service for everyone not just the ones that believe as they do. You live in a world governed by laws created by God that stand as proof that you reap what you sow but somehow because you have performed the one work, the one prayer, the one ordinance you will be spared the work needed to have rewards in heaven. I have listened to your preachers for years on the radio and all I hear is how everyone but you are going to burn in hell and when the going gets tough you will be raptured. When the tribulation comes they are outta here and will leave it to others to relieve the suffering of men. They criticize all the other faiths but none of their doctrine is written down so you can’t criticize theirs. They claim to be united in their beliefs but I have not seen any two churches that teach and believe the same thing. The only thing they seem to be united on is their opposition to others and their beliefs. Don’t waste your time preaching to me because what you do speaks louder than what you say.
And yes C02 I did get the south park reference. Between you and Roland and Flyover my sides are sore from laughing.
That’s one mission accomplished.
About the other, I almost simply quoted Proverbs 29. But could I leave it alone? NooOOoo. I had to get all theophilosophical-like, which totally veered away from the fine topic Michelle brought up. I took the bait, in other words. I must remember to resist that temptation in the future.
CO2…
“What about Pentacostalism?”
Depends on the flavor of the Pentecostalism. There is a oneness Pentecostalism as practiced by folks such as TD Jakes that is considered a Christian Cult. So can’t answer your question as Pentecostalism is too broad.
The core of what is considered “Christian” has been established for a very long time. If a belief system stands outside that core, that belief system is considered a Christian cult. It is what it is.
Mormonism stands outside those core beliefs. This is not news and one does not have to be in hiding for a belief system to be a cult.
Scientology hardly in hiding.
“it would prove useful to practice more of the Bible’s teachings.”
As previously noted and the point of letting the Bible speak for itself is the pursuit of truth is a Biblical principle and is practicing its teaching.
I gladly agree to abide by your advice to do so.
You do raise a concern though CO2.
Your kind of thinking gets those of us who are willing to stand on Biblical principle in our churches and call homosexuality sin also getting labeled as guilty of hate speech.
The truth is the truth. If it makes you uncomfortable that Mormonism, JW’s, etc., are considered Christian cults not sure what to tell you. You can judge me, as you have done, as somehow being inappropriate. Or you can acknowledge truth.
I can see what you have chosen.