Ohio Democrat Party chair to Tea Party activists: “F*ckers”
Ohio Democrat Party chairman Chris Redfern says out loud how all his cohorts really feel about the grass-roots Tea Party movement. Here he is cursing activists who reject the notion that federally-subsidized health care is a right.
Click to watch (language alert):
Joe “Big F*cking Deal” Biden was just in Ohio to campaign for the flailing Ds. Must have rubbed off on Redfern.
More unhinged Ohio Democrats here.
Too bad these foul mouths couldn’t aim some of their vitriol at the job-destroying, union pay-off machine that has led to so much hardship for thousands of workers in their own backyard. Where are the f-bombs over the Delphi disaster?
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Three blatant, bald-faced lies, as far as I know. Unless, of course, you can provide some evidence other than your word.
I’m not going to link it again, but what I did was link back to another post on the MM site where I did put up links that backed up my claim. What was that, how Bush lied about Iraq? Good times.
I really don’t care what you are aware of. It’s true. If you want to verify it, knock yourself out. If you don’t, then don’t bother.
If that is what the food fight is over, then everyone is correct.
RSS is correct that Dick Armey said that. He had a slip of the lip in a public conversation, immediately realized th slip and apologized publically. He later call Frank and apologized directly.
Stupid, but inadvertent, no malice intended. Welcome to public life.
RSS did not post a link because it would show that Armey took “strong exception to the airing of the tape and even the transcribing of a stumbled word as if it were an intentional personal attack, …And I take this exception especially in light of the fact that I went to the press that had the tape and explained to them in the best humor I could that I had simply mispronounced a name and did not need any psychoanalysis about my subliminal or about my Freudian predilections. …”
I already know. You’re a liar. Unless you can provide soundbites to substantiate any of those claims, reasserting them just makes you a continuous liar.
What are your thoughts, specifically, about Mr. Redfern’s comment (and just his comment without comparison or other moral equivocation)?
To the best of my memory, you’re exactly correct.
Aw, Rogue–that’s what you’d do with them. And what would you have for me?
Wow. What a place that must be! I wonder if I’d run into Sharpton there?
Dear, it’s innuendo. You do know the difference between actual fact versus innuendo, do you not?
I thought is was kinda funny and personally, he was making fun of Obeyme. Hell, he’s chalkfull of humorous tidbits, Mr. Racial Sensivity. And, dear, we have a PROLONGED recessions, better know as a double-dip, Jimmy Cartuh redux recession. Rush only pointed out what many of us knew was coming… vis-a-vis Bush pre-socializing and then Obeyme doing the rest.
Yeah, you did make the accusation because, you do portray with a broad brush. None of ya’ll could possibly be right. God, you sound like that chief Obeyme denier Alan Colmes and I listen to him and that Columbia professor spout off on O’Reilly about how Obeyme is just so totally awesome.
Nope. There’s an important difference between Sarah and Armey. Armey is a RINO and Sarah isn’t. She took on the establishment especially regading energy issues in Alaska. Armey is an insider politico looking after his “legacy.” Whatever that is.
I know you hate people like Sarah because she doesn’t pantomine your lefty talking points and isn’t on the lefty reservation like a lot of women. Sarah isn’t the leader of the movement either, no matter how much you’d like that. I thought movements were organic like Organizing for America? I mean, all they gotta do is call and people will come and protest a Glen Beck speech, right? They’re not paid astroturf like Nancy accuses the Tea Party of being, right?
One-sided debate is fun and all, but in the end you just come across as someone with revenge fantasies who’s nursing a grudge. At least former lefties like the Hillbuzz guys can be honest about what the left is doing to destroy the country. I guess I’m not a homophobe after all, given that the Hillbuzz guys count me as a regular reader.
Maybe you should put down the lefty rage and read some more fair and balanced news like you suggest all of us should. I mean, if you’re interested in “truth” and all.
THEY WIN THESE ARGUMENTS????
Then how come the American people have been REJECTING their attempts to socialize healthcare for 100 years? (They admit they’ve been pushing it that long, they just wont admit America has been rejecting it that long)
Thanks for the addition to my acronym. I was in a rush and couldn’t come up with one for S, why on earth I couldn’t escapes me, not seeing the wood for the trees I guess.
Slip of the lip? That just happens to be a epithet to describe the sexual preference shared by Barney Frank? Right. I know he apologized, but as MM likes to say, a gaffe is something that the speaker really believes.
RSS whistling past the graveyard again.
We already proved that the link that you linked to in your own post linked right back to the MM posting. So sorry, but you never did provide proof then either (unless you are trying to claim that the proof is that you said it and therefore it must be true).
And your earlier post about Rush Limbaugh and the whole “Barack the Magic Negro” thing. That was taken out of context as Rush was pointing out the article by an LA Times columnist who called Barrack Obama that.
See not to difficult to provide proof now is it. And in doing so, I also proved that you are willing to make accusations that are false.
Really, what makes you believe that? Conservatives like to paint the picture of Sarah taking on the establishment Alaska politicians, but from my understanding those were the same people who helped her on the way up, and she threw them under the bus once they became a liability to her.
Regardless, what makes you think she believes what comes out of her mouth? Her positions now are often a 180 from what she said during the 2008 campaign, and she endorses conservatives and RINO’s alike, depending on who can further her career.
He didn’t point it out. He sang it.
Rush didn’t sing Barack the Magic Negro, it was a parody song by Paul Shanklin which was played on Rush’s show. The phrase was taken from the lead of an article in the LA Times. As you are so fond of Google you could have linked quite easily, but your whole premise would have been shot to pieces. Context is important.
This thread is dead. Official time of death 2:08 P.M.
Do.Not.Resuscitate.
Once again RSS is proven wrong…gee what a surprise.
Allow me to point out that RSS claimed that Rush sang “Barack the Magic Negro”. He didn’t. He played a Paul Shanklin parody song (parodying Al Sharpton, as a matter of fact) with that title. The thing that RSS is unaware of is that the term “Magic Negro” was coined by a Democrat, and Rush picked up on it. All very public knowledge, if RSS were to get his info anyplace other than from fellow KOSacks or DUmbocrats.
Red State Skeptic said:
Being that you’re Southern and all it’s a bit presumptious to call me “sugar.” Save it for your wife who has to sop up the Obeyme dribble off your upper lip. I also spent some time in the South and nobody was rude enough to call me a pet name. They called me by my first name or “ma’am.” I guess I’m a hopeless Northerner when it comes to manners and being polite. It seems that sexism doesn’t stop at the front door for Southern “gentleman” like you.
Since you live in Georgia and not in New York you have no freakin’ clue how rough and tumble NY politics can be. I really didn’t like either Lazio or Paladino in the governor’s primary but I voted for Lazio. Again, Mr. Racial Sensitivity, Mr. Paladino was poking fun at Obeyme just as blacks poke fun at whitey or do you not get that? You not only do not have a political funny bone you have a convenient slip of memory when SNL portrayed Sarah Palin the way they did, attributed things to her that she never said, yet, Conservatives are supposed to laugh. Welcome to political humor.
Really? You promise they’re honest sources of information? From what I’ve seen (I HAVE given it a try) a lot of the sources they “advertise” are not honest perveyors of truth. Would you care to give me some examples of what you think are honest perveyors of truth? Or can you not back up what you assert?
Or, maybe, just maybe, what stands for “honest truth” are sites like TPM or comedy shows like the John Stewart Show in your estimation.
RSS: Way to hijack a thread! What are your demands? Who do we have to release from jail so we can keep the thread on track?
Oops, beat me. I edit too much.
Yep, I second your finding. The threadjack is complete. Another Obamabot has infiltrated what was meaningful discourse.
I’m sorry for indulging RSS. It seems that all that hatred and ignorance cannot be dispelled. Maybe somebody can suggest some sites where he can go to find some “inner calm.”
Great minds.
My mistake… except it wasn’t “pointed out.” It was repeated. At any rate, if you don’t see how inappropriate and offensive that is, I don’t know what to say to you.
Oh well, the thread wasn’t going to go anyplace anyhow, until idiot child showed up and gave us something to talk about.
I’m sorry ma’am. I just wanted to return all the “honey” and “dear” love.
Palladino made fun of the Obamas for being black. Not really funny to me, but what do I know.
indeed
You’re saying it’s OK for blacks to make fun of whites?
True, but it is a bit fun to be able to expose the left for what they are, people who make claims out of wholecloth based on unsubstatiated claims made by others and expect to be taken seriously.
Then maybe your criticism should be directed at the LA Times writer who coined the term, not the people who highlighted it to point out the hypocrisy of liberals.
There’s a reason I only read DailyKos or Huffpo about once a year. They’re just not that interesting. Takes about five minutes to remind me.
I don’t remember expressing any opinion on the song. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I’d suggest we make our own demand that no one else respond to him until he’s given his thoughts on one Mr. Chris Redfern. It looks as though he’ll avoid making his own opinion on Redfern’s comment known here.
(I say this acknowledging that I, too, am guilty of responding the threadjack.)
If we compiled every stupid and racist comment made by Democrats, and combined them with their slew of dirty words and sexual innuendo, we’d have a pretty good sized book. RSS can talk all he wants, but the media never gives Conservative Repubs the benefit of the doubt and he knows it and chooses to ignore it—okay, so, Let’s Ignore.The.Troll.
Really? Are you so sure? What makes you think so? So, it’s not a given that in order to get into politics you need to play with the RINO establishment to get anywhere? I find it interesting how you don’t say the same for Obeyme. He has a habit of throwing people under the bus when he has no use for them or they have dissed him in some way.
Now, with Sarah, she didn’t want to be “used” by the RINO establishment, like the Murkowskis. I think she figured out pretty quickly these people weren’t her friends and would stab her in the back when they were done using her. I think it pretty savvy that she decided to part company with them and forge her own identity separate from them. Too bad Obama decided to ride people like Ted Kennedy all the way to the White House and parrot whatever nice rhetoric he needs to for whatever crowd he lies to.
What makes you believe she doesn’t believe what she says? Can you see into her soul? Or does she need a teleprompter like Obeyme to tell her what to say?
So, let me get this straight, politicians cannot evolve or change if they’re on the Right, but they can wobble and lie and make turnarounds like Obeyme and that’s completely expected? I see.
Isn’t it interesting you can rationalize who she endorses and why, and yet a lot of what you say is hyperbole and speculation? Is there some proof behind your assertions or am I supposed to be believe a liar like you?
I frankly don’t know why Sarah endorsed or supported RINO’s like McCain or Ayotte. Maybe there a sense of loyalty she has for people like McCain or maybe she sees something promising in people like Ayotte. I don’t know. That doesn’t mean I respect her less.
It’s nice to know folks like you, RSS, and others on the Left can see into people’s hearts and minds and dredge up whatever you want based on the slightest suspicion, rumor, assumption, or theory. Even if there is nothing to back them up.
You can provide some, I don’t know, proof as to your assumptions, biases, and opinions. Because, either way, what you’re saying is based on nothing more than that.
The “bone in your nose” incident took place about 35-40 years ago when Rush was working for a boss who wanted “insult radio.”
As he has said repeatedly, he didn’t like doing that, because he didn’t think that was the path for Johnny Carson-style longevity in his career.
(At least, 40 years ago, he wasn’t driving a girl off a bridge.)
I think “magic negro” was coined by Spike Lee, referring to a type of black character who seemingly comes out of nowhere, and gives life lessons to the white main character. It’s been used quite often by posters on TV and movie websites since then.
I think it’s OK for black people to laugh about what crappy dancers white people like me are. Just like I’ll joke about how black folks are, um, conservative tippers. But to equate the president of the United States with savages because of the color of his skin is way beyond what I’m talking about, or any example I can think of where a black person is poking fun at a white person.
Well, it appears that RSS’s theory is that you cannot have or express an opinion on Mr. Redfern’s comment without first giving a thorough critique on anything any conservative has ever done that RSS believes is inappropriate.
“Message!”
The term magic negro was coined prior to Rush’s use of it and Paul Shanklin’s parody. It was first written in the LA Times by a writer named David Ehrenstein. March 2007 he wrote:
But it’s clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the “Magic Negro.”
The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. “He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist,” reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .
He’s there to assuage white “guilt” (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.
RSS wants to thank all of you who have entertained him this afternoon by commenting on his lame posts. He has no life, lives in his mother’s basement and does everything he can to bait you into responding to his liberal rant posts. He received two merit badges from Troll U.
Who’s Chris Redfern?
Coldest summer in Southern California in decades. Damn you Al Gore and your climate change.
Throw a rock into a pack of Democrats and they all yelp!
A big Swede was on a talk show recalling his days during a battle during World War I. “And the Fokkers came from the left! An the Fokkers came from the right!” The host interupted the vet. “Ladies and Gentlemen, a Fokker is a type of German Aircraft.” The Swede cut in, “No, No No! These Fokkers was in tanks!”
The only joke my grandpa ever told me about war…
I just wanted to return all the contempuousness you’ve directed at Conservatives, Ms. Malkin, and those who post on this site. I, therefore, rescind my “honey” love so as not to give you the idea that I give a crap about what you say. The “dear” I’ll keep because you seem to have not evolved or matured as a person beyond who you want to tarnish with innuendo, half-truths, and accusations without proof.
I’ve been made fun of for being overweight. For being white. For being a nerd by my own family. For marrying somebody in the military. For wanting to have only one child. The list goes on and on. Then again, you seem to have a very thin skin and didn’t grow up with very critical parents and family. Paladino didn’t insult Obeyme and his Queen, he made fun of them. Have you ever seen SNL, MAD TV, or In Living Color? Race is no obstacle to parody.
Again, you must be a helluva parent. You must be a dream at parent-teacher conferences. Your kids are gonna get called a lot of names in life. We all get called names. You either dust yourself off and grow a thick skin or maybe you should “ensconse” yourself in that closet full of homophobes, racists, sexists, and misogynists that the Left seems to like to gravitate toward. The Left didn’t think much of how they treated Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton.
If you’re so concerned with all the crap that you think the Right dishes out, why don’t you take on your own party’s sins? Go over to Hillbuzz and see what former lefties can do when they felt their voice was taken away. You might be surprised at how freeing it feels not being anchored to a party who treats women, gays, minorities, like “non-people.” And I’m sorry, but the Right, or Republicans, Sarah Palin, or even a candidate like Paladino are responsible for the sins of the Left.
You pardon yourself for your transgressions, but conservatives are held to a higher standard.
Laughable, if it weren’t so pathetic!
If that’s true, then I duly apologize to RSS. That makes him a liar on only two out of three counts. Frankly, I wasn’t listening to Rush 40 years ago – but then neither was anybody else – he was still a teenager on a local station.
If you expect me to defend Barack Obama, you’re wrong. He’s a gutless wobbler like all politicians. If you want to explain Sarah’s tack to the right as “evolution” that seemed to take place overnight, then we probably don’t see eye to eye on this issue. I think even conservatives4palin water carriers will concede that Sarah just said what she was told by the McCain campaign in 2008.
As for her endorsements, I can’t see in her soul, but there seem to be three operating principles: electability, gender and conservatism. In an important primary or caucus state like Iowa, she’ll make sure to endorse the most electable candidate so she can get in the good graces of whoever wins. Otherwise, I don’t have a grand unified theory as to how Sarah makes her endorsements, but she clearly does not always pick candidates based on principle. When she does endorse the most conservative candidates, it’s often late in the race after they become viable (like Christine O’Donnell).
Exactly! So why do people keep bringing it up as though they heard it themselves?
And if people are going to keep focusing on “Barack the Magic Negro” (2007?) they would embarrass themselves less if they actually read the lyrics. They explain the whole point. Never has anything been more “meta.”
The Cliff’s notes version: it was done during a week where Barack’s “authenticity” as “black” had been questioned (he wasn’t “down with the struggle”), when Joe Biden condescendingly called him “clean and articulate,” and when Sharpton took offense to that (“What? I bathe regularly!”). Hence, the vocal “by” Sharpton.
The purpose was to tie all of that together, not to say “Negro! Ha ha! I got to say negro!”
How disappointing. We can at least agree that Obeyme is just LIKE other politicians and not some star from heaven or some “transformational” figure for people to grab on to.
As to Sarah’s involvment in the 2008 campaign, what exactly do you expect from the second name on the ticket? Isn’t this what Joe Biden did, even if he went off-script? You have to present some unity, even if you’re the conservative on the Dem-lite ticket. I wouldn’t want that job because I didn’t like McCain. I held my nose and voted for him because of Sarah. That says more about Sarah’s personal appeal and not John McCain’s “electability.” I’m sorry but John McCain is more of a political whore, as is Obeyme, than Sarah Palin will ever be.
Isn’t it interesting how many women are running on conservative values and on the Repub ticket? Where are the women to do the same for the Left? Hmmm… I guess the Repubs and the Right don’t see women as non-people after all like the left does.
So, basically, you’re theorizing why you think Sarah Palin endorses who she thinks should run and why. I thought you could back up your assumptions and personal opinions with actual facts. How disappointing.
Let’s be honest, you have no freakin’ clue why Sarah Palin endorses who she feels is the right candidate. You’re putting up your personal opinion as fact. I thought only columnists at Newsweek and Time magazines could do that. Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Sarah Palin studied the people running, talked to them, and went with who she felt, personally, had the right stuff to win? Whether it be electability, or principles, or gender, or personal likeability. She’s not unlike others who give their endorsements based on such things.
I don’t think your “assumptions” or “opinions” are breaking new ground here.
Deal with my post (here) about not providing links. Tell me if Ohio Democrat Party chairman Chris Redfern ever said he stumbled in mispronouncing a word and never meant to use the f-word in his attack.
Why isn’t Obama being made fun of for being white?
Dang, being politically correct is a real pain in the whatsits.
It was more fun years ago when I went to a Halloween party dressed like a canibal WITH a bone in my nose (sewed to a black leotard I pulled over my head with cut out eyes). And then there was the time I chaperoned the neighborhood kids at Halloween dressed up as Aunt Jemima. NOONE in the neighborhood recognized me. They thought it was great. Took a while to get the shoe polish off though. I really want to collect black folk art, but would that be racist since I’m not black? My great-grandparents were peasants in Easter Europe a million years ago. Does that count as global slavery?
He is preaching to the choir, and they love it. “Excuse my language”….What a laugh. Go to any leftist website and read the language in the comments they post. Totally without class. They have no standards. How long would a person be allowed to comment here if they threw obscenities in every other sentence
Can’t we all just sit down, have a cold drink, and watch Blazing Saddles together? They everyone can be offended, and have a good laugh!
(Did I sound like Dear Leader there?)
…Where “this standard which [you] set” is a fairly universal standard amongst journalists – a simple acknowledgment that the inherent bias in the information they are providing, in this instance that boorish behavior is not bound to political ideology, a point which appears to be completely lost on a number of commenters above (gee, wonder why?). The authors of this (or any) blog are not obligated to abide by anything other than their own professional standards, however that’s not a terribly difficult standard to follow. It appears they want to stack the deck in favor of their side at the expense of full disclosure, intellectual honesty, and a properly-informed readership.
But you seem to get that. It’s very refreshing to see a commenter here so frankly admit they don’t expect to get a well-rounded representation of reality when they read this blog. Based on the comments, many readers seem to be under the illusion they are being well-informed by its authors. Not that there isn’t truthful information to be found here, but given the intensity of its editorial slant and the frequency with which demonstrably false information is allowed to stand uncorrected, it’s both amazing and tragic that anybody trusts a word they read here. It’s as though it’s more important for some people to be scared and angry than it is to be properly informed.
And yes, this sort of thing happens at many liberal blogs, too. Nobody is off the hook, and nobody is required to abide by anything beyond their own sense of professional integrity and ethical standards. But one’s arguments are strengthened by acknowledging the failures of the side they are defending, and people who are frequently caught misrepresenting the truth — either deliberately or due to gross incompetence — should be regarded with great skepticism.
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Regarding the video, I didn’t watch it but I agree with the general assertion that vitriol and incivility in the political arena is always disappointing and uncalled for.
Health care has been a right for citizens and aliens alike in the US ever since president Reagan signed EMTALA into law in 1986 (a fact I happened upon while reading this very blog). Although not “federally subsidized,” it is instead subsidized by policy-holding American citizens whose premiums are increased so health care providers can offset the burden of providing unfunded, federally-mandated emergency care to any human being who demands it.
You’ll recognize me, I’ll be the dumb schmuck in the fedora hitting on a hard seventeen!
Have you seen The American? Picture Clark and Clara (Oh yes, Violante Placido will be mine!) having a picnic lunch of only the best wines and cheeses down at the river in the sleepy Italian countryside. Dinnyskipping is optional.
Rogue-is that the newest George Clooney pic?
Well, I don’t mind Clooney, but I suppose I’m glad you didn’t suggest the home-made chair scene in ‘Burn After Reading’.
LOL
Yes, it is his latest flick and a fairly thoughtful character study it is. One of Clooney’s more understated and better stints.
Heh, that chair was pretty functional, init tho’? Not something you’ll likely find shopping at IKEA. Unfortunately I’m not as handy with the tools as Harry Pfarrer was.
I haven’t seen it as I heard it was slow and boring. I did see his ‘Syriana’ though, and found it to be enjoyable.
On September 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 am, spaceycakes said:
Isn’t that what Kirsten Gillibrand said when asked if she’d seen Harry Reid’s “stimulus package”?
He thinks she’s “hot”, she thinks he’s “slow and boring”.
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It is not an action flick for sure, but I found it tense and languid at the same time once you understand what Clooney’s character is all about. They don’t spoon feed you everything but unravel the character’s mystery slowly, so people with short attention spans will find it boring. Clooney’s character is a raw nerve juxtaposed against the serene Italian countryside. I liked it for it’s different pace (not to mention Violante Placido is hawt!).
well, thank you Mr. Cannes Sundance.
Just my inner Ebert shining through.
Dick, I found it was easy to dance to, I give it a 95!
sounds like something Jocelyn Elders would suggest…
Should I have gone for turgid and lugubrious instead?
salacious yet coy.
Red State Skeptic is very confused about the origins of Obama the Magic Negro.
Since he doesn’t understand anything about links, then I’ll make it clear for him right here.
In March 2007, Ehrenstein wrote an opinion piece in the LA Times on Barack Obama, in which he used the archetype of the magical negro to describe Obama, who was then an Illinois senator and candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination for President. The title of the piece, “Obama the ‘Magic Negro[.]”
Red State Skeptic, if you don’t like it, then complain to Ehrenstein and the LA Times.