DREAM Act nightmare: 2.1 million future Democrat voter recruitment drive
Let’s be clear.
The open-borders progressives’ “DREAM Act” is an electoral nightmare. It’s not just an illegal alien student bailout. It’s a 2.1 million future Democrat voter recruitment drive. The “path to citizenship” dangled by Obama is a superhighway to generations of big government-birthed, identity politics-nursed dependents.
Misguided Republicans have supported illegal alien amnesties dating back to the Reagan era. And they have paid a steep, lasting price. As bankrupt, multiculti-wracked California goes, so goes the nation. The progs’ plan has always been to exploit the massive population of illegal aliens to redraw the political map and secure a permanent ruling majority.
Illegal alien DREAM Act radicals have coopted civil rights language and tactics — they’re staging hunger strikes across the country now — to cast themselves as “victims” while they cut in front of the line.
Where are all the Republicans who talked tough on border security to get themselves re-elected?
Cowering.
Shame on John McCain. Shame:
On Wednesday, six undocumented youth staged an all-day sit-in in Arizona Sen. John McCain’s D.C. office to try to force the senator to give a statement of support for the DREAM Act, which he’d cosponsored in the past. Late in the day, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced that he plans to introduce the DREAM Act as a stand alone bill.
The day ended with four arrests and no such statement from McCain, but McCain heard their message loud and clear.
So loudly and so clearly, in fact, that he attempted to make a side-door exit to avoid confrontation with the students. Matias Ramos, a DREAM activist and founding member of United We DREAM, a group that’s organizing to win passage of the bill, said the group of young people only managed to snag a quick exchange with McCain because they chased him down a hallway as he tried to exit one of his office’s five doors.
“We’d like to serve the country. Will you support the DREAM Act and allow us to serve?” Ramos said Gaby Pacheco, one of the activists asked him. “Good, good, go serve the country then,” Ramos said McCain replied, before sliding into a senators’ elevator and being whisked away.
DREAM activists have targeted McCain three separate times in recent years with sit-ins in his Phoenix and D.C. offices, but Wednesday marked the first time activists were able to see him face to face.
McCain was not always so afraid to face DREAMers. In fact, he cosponsored the 2003, 2005 and 2007 versions of the DREAM Act. It wasn’t until after his failed 2008 presidential bid, and then his bruising primary against J.D. Hayworth this summer, that McCain started turning in on himself…
Yes, Soros open-borders Republican and former best friend of La Raza-turned-tough-on-borders John McCain is still a fence-sitter. Here’s the current DREAM Act Senate fence-sitters scorecard and phone numbers again.
The open-borders lobby never lets up. Neither should you:
REPUBLICANS:
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN 202-224-2235; 480-897-6289: Staff says he “hasn’t made a public statement” and “hasn’t made up his mind.” He talked a tough border security game to get re-elected, while promising illegal alien activists he would “resolve their issues.” (Refresh your memories here.)
SEN. OLYMPIA SNOWE 202-224-5344; 207-874-0883: Staff says she “hasn’t released a statement.”
SEN. SUSAN COLLINS 202-224-2523; 207-945-0417: Staff says she “hasn’t released a public statement.”
SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI 202-224-6665; 907-271-3735: Staff says she’s “still reviewing the bill.”
DEMOCRATS:
SEN. JIM WEBB OF VIRGINIA 202-224-4024; 703-573-7090. Staff says “he hasn’t made a public statement.”
SEN. KENT CONRAD OF NORTH DAKOTA 202-224-2043; 701-258-4648. Staff says “he hasn’t released a statement.” Conrad has voted against the DREAM Act in the past.
SEN. BYRON DORGAN OF NORTH DAKOTA 202 224-2551. He voted against the DREAM Act in the past. Staff says he “hasn’t taken a public position.”
SEN. MARK PRYOR OF ARKANSAS 202-224-2353; 501-324-6336. He voted no on the DREAM Act cloture vote in September. Staff says he is “likely” to vote no again, though he hasn’t made an official public statement yet.
SEN. JON TESTER OF MONTANA 202 224-2644. Staff says he has voted against the DREAM Act in the past and “he will probably vote against any bill that has amnesty in it.”
SEN. MAX BAUCUS OF MONTANA 202-224-2651. He has opposed the DREAM Act in the past and is a “likely no” again in this session.
SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL OF MISSOURI 202-224-6154. She opposed the DREAM Act in the past and staff says she has made no statement changing her position otherwise.
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IBD nails it:
This is an amnesty bill. Under it, illegal aliens who enter this country before the age of 16 and have successfully evaded the law for five years are given conditional green-card status that can later be converted to regular green cards. They are required to complete two years of college or military service.
Then green cards can be acquired for the parents who brought their children here illegally. And once they’ve been granted citizenship, they can bring all their relatives to the U.S. Those who’ve waited patiently, and legally, for their green cards will still have to wait while the open-border parade passes them by.
These are not children who were born here after their parents sneaked past the Border Patrol; the argument there is that birthright citizens shouldn’t be punished for the sins of their parents. No, these are children who were born elsewhere and smuggled in before their 16th birthday.
To reward this illegal behavior would encourage more to come, and there is no shortage of human smugglers in Mexico who would be happy, for a fee, to assist. The smuggled and their families, of course, would be eternally grateful.
“A lot of this is about demographics,” says Sen.-elect Rand Paul, R-Ky. “If you look at immigrants from Mexico, they register 3-to-1 Democrat, so the Democratic Party is for easy citizenship and allowing them to vote.” But what about the people who wait patiently overseas and break no laws to get here? No citizenship for you!
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Seems to me that in Arizona these guys can be arrested and sent to ICE for deportation. That is my dream act.
They should have been arrested as soon as they freely admitted to being illegals.
We the People of the United States of America have the right to have our borders and our laws respected and enforced.
Citizens of other countries illegally in our country have no right to demand anything from our government. They most certainly have the right to petition the governments of their home countries for change if they are unhappy with their home country. If they want to be Americans, we have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other nation, and it starts in their home country.
We need to insist on the equal protection, application and enforcement of the law or devolve into anarchy. Our Republic only functions if everyone follows the same rules. We should not change the laws to accomodate those breaking them.
If America annouces to the world “We can’t stop you, so come on in” with another amnesty, the deluge will be overwhelming. If 3,000 a day didn’t get your attention, then wait until it’s 10,000 a day. We cannot sustain this influx and survive as a nation. We must speak up and speak to each other about this and not let false claims of racism or bigotry be used to intimidate us into silent assent. America is not Congress’ to give away. America belongs to We the People. Speak to your neighbors, speak to your coworkers, but please speak up to your Congressmen and Senators. It’s O.K. for us to enforce our laws, no really, it is.
Yeah, I saw where Califonia Supreme Court said that illegal aliens in state should be given in state tuition to public schools. . . and they wonder why they have to raise tuition.
The kicker is the justification. “Since we’ve already spent (wasted) taxpayer dollars on their k-12 education, we want them to be able to get good and productive jobs.
Basically, since we’ve thrown money away, we might as well throw money away – it’s not ours after all.
What I want to know, if we are educating these people, why does everything have to be translated into spanish for them? Aren’t they learning English in their taxpayer funded schools?
People NEVER want to talk about the cost. That’s the single only problem with them becoming citizens. . . but you aren’t allowed to talk about the cost. . . just shut up and pay your taxes since you get to vote.
1. Fix the highways
2. Fix our seaports
3. Fix our airports
4. Fix our public education system
5. Fix our power grid
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100. Give illegal aliens a fast-track to citizenship.
And they don’t think that illegal alien going to public school (college) takes a spot from an American taxpayer. The absolute contempt that politicians have for the people who pay the bills is atrocious. . . and it’s why I’ve got a big bet on the downside for the market. There is no way that the people in charge are smart enough to keep disaster from happening. Every move they make brings us closer to the cliff. The Fed is artificially keeping things inflated.
Captain McCain,
Why don’t you face the protestors outside your office and tell them “NO” with the same integrity and resolve that you faced your Vietnamese captors?
But-but-but we’re all God’s children…
Remember how the Apostle Paul used to preach that everyone had the right to become a full citizen of Rome? Oh, uh, nevermind.
Even God’s kingdom has requirements for entering into it, namely, no lawbreakers – you’re only allowed to enter through the gates (see Revelation 22:14-15).
Is this the DREAM that Martin Luther King, Jr., had?
Well the promise was made to secure the border, before Obama canceled the fence … Look like government promises aren’t what they used to be.
But don’t worry healthcare will be fine.
Solution, you know who they are, why would you hire them?
Didn’t Palin endorse McCain? Why yes, I believe she did. WAJ.
tarpon, I’m assuming that you are saying people ‘hire’ them by voting.
You can’t vote for someone who won’t waste your money. You can only choose between people who are going to waste your money. I wish I could just vote ‘NO’.
Look at Charlie Rangel. He’s crooked, everybody knows he’s crooked, but he’s still there and he still got elected.
This whole government is as corrupt as any in the country. Voting for someone doesn’t mean you ‘hired’ the right guy. They are all the wrong people because they will all waste money with regard to nothing but how to get re-elected.
And the districts are made up and gamed so that people in power win. McCain has never won an election he didn’t game, nor Reid, and Pelosi wouldln’t win anywhere else in the country. . . but she had complete control of all the nations money.
I get ZERO for my tax dollars.
When it comes to talking electoral politics and immigration, multiple threads weave together:
1. “I don’t care if Los Angeles becomes indistinguishable from Tijuana, as long as I’m on the city council.” Or as John Milton said, “Better to reign in Hell then to serve in Heaven.” Even after they’ve wrecked everything for everyone else, they think they can make exceptions for themselves in the New Order: “Hey, I’m on your side; who do you think opened the city gates for you, anyway?”
2. “I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.” My moonbat sister is fond of telling me as a warning, “It won’t be long before white people are a minority in this country.” The implication being that we’d better make nice to the invaders from the south while we can, especially if we don’t find ourselves part of the Democrat party ruling elite who think that from their gated communities they’ll be calling all the shots in the new bread-and-circuses society they expect America to become.
American government as corrupt as any in the world, not country, sorry.
Ahhh, it is post-election, and if I may “bastardize” a line from “APOCALYPSE NOW”, I love the smell of BULL S**T in the morning!!! With OL’ JUAN now safely seated for the next 6 years, we should all get to see the “NEW IMPROVED MAVERICK” that we have all been waiting for with BATED BREATH!!! All I can ad is that as a CITIZEN of the great state of ARIZONA, I am embarrassed for my fellow ARIZONANS, who once again foisted this RINO on the AMERICAN PUBLIC… MEA CULPA!!!
Does the President condemn mecha?
Of course not they’re America hating radicals like he is, that’s who he wants to vote.
Josh vs. MEChA
Called and e-mailed Senator Webb’s office.
Fat lot of good that will do.
I would like to see the next border fence place between CA and AZ which is where most of our illegals are coming from these days.
I think one prime problem is people don’t believe the numbers or think they’re exaggerated because creeping cultural hijacking is so very subtle. A Hispanic U.S.A. is science ficion to them until it starts converting your town and by then it’s far too late. Can you hear the canary?? When I was in high school here in NYC you rarely saw any Spanish ad in buses or subways. Now topsy-turvy it’s the way with English. You press “1″ for English on the phone. Stop signs and lights are now graphics. It’s not a “melting pot”, it’s the PC gutting of your own mother culture to appear “compassionate” to the world. We have few pols with the brass to say Americana is sacred and immallable, and I fear the state is so far gone now that it really can’t be reversed. Dare I venture that most Hispanics here and down there quietly nod and know it’s only a matter of time before they get their “legacy” back.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
I must admit I am surprised to read dear kay won’t support this bill from another article yesterday on MM. I can not for the life of me understand why that slug john would vote for this bill! I know, votes, but not r votes.
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An egg-cream for you, sir.
The Senate is suffering from the very same thing that is taking down fraternal organizations like the Rotary, Lions, Freemasons, and Knights of Columbus across the country when the old members just won’t give up control. Younger members leave. Meanwhile, the old officers just keep getting re-elected until they die.
In the final stage, the old fools unite in a final “heroic” effort to “save” the grand old club. Then it dies. We are near the “dying” part.
U.S. citizens have a right to dictate who and how many join us. The DREAM act’s provisions extend amnesty well beyond granting citizenship to students, and it ultimately reward those that have shown no respect for our immigration laws and our country. Go to NumbersUSA,HERE,and fax your protest to Congress at no charge.
Ideally, yes. Just try telling that to many members of congress, the state department, the national chamber of commerce, and all the radical groups who loathe this republic.
“They are required to complete two years of college or military service” is troubling for a couple of reasons. One, like Obamacare, is this even constitutional to compel someone to pay for a private service such as college? And this leads to the second issue, the government will feel compelled to pay for the eduction to prevent the first question.
I have no country if the country is unwilling to enforce it’s border. How can it be any other way?
When will people like McCain realize that The Dream Act and other attempts by the left to make illegals citizens is an attempt to overrun our country?
How F*&%ing ignorant are the McCain’s of the republican party?
That’s a very good point.
The DELIRUIUM Act takes that control away from the citizens of this country and puts control of who will become citizens in the hands of all those who are willing to come here illegally.
We will no longer decide who becomes a citizen. Those who stand outside our borders will make that decision for us.
US Sovereignty thereby eliminated. Which is exactly what Obama wants.
If the Dream Act passes, will the Student Visa program officially be obsolete?
Afterall, why should foreign students who follow the law have to deal with the fees, restrictions and paperwork invovled in getting a Student Visa, when U.S. universities clearly don’t require ILLEGAL aliens to get a Student Visa.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1268.html
Will we lose any right to monitor who comes to the United States to “study”?
Maybe there is something to a “Manchurian Candidate” in McCain. He either is being manipulated or personally has something to gain in supporting THe Dream Act. Anyone supporting this monstrosity cares nothing about doing what is right for this nation nor its citizens…Its about lust for power, ego, hating this nation’s heritage, and/or money.
The Dems say this is all out of compassion and not to increase their rolls. Then fine, give them the DREAM Act, but include the amnesty to be under the provision that those given amnesty permanently forfeit their right to vote.
How many Dems will back a budget buster like this then?
As I’m sure you know…. that’s total bulls&^%. But to call their bluff would likely result in them showing their true intentions. They’d never allow a bill like this to rule out padding their voter roles. Which of I assume is your point. And a good one.
They’d claim you couldn’t deny that right to a legal citizen no matter how they arrived at being a legal citizen. But… they’d be lying. As usual.
Felons are legal citizens and they can’t vote. All it would take is the correct wording.
Then any attempt to change that status would be as transparent as glass.
Of course, contest it in court and some activist judge could find it unconstitutional.
All this madness being shoved down our throats & we seem powerless to stop any of it. What will it take to get them to listen?
How’s this for a DREAM?
Let’s subsidize the higher educations of illegal aliens giving them in state tuition and part of the limited space in college class rooms at the expense of American kids.
Once the child of illegals obtains his degree, award him with citizenship. Then turn him loose in an affirmative action happy society to compete with American kids that managed to pay out of state tuition manage to get a degree.
With the “new” citizen’s jobs secured, allow him to use chain migration to sponsor his parents and other relatives so that those people can compete with American’s and their kids that could not afford tuition for a degree.
If the chain migrants don’t take jobs, give them the right to all of the safety net entitlements we have to offer.
This is a DREAM for who? Where is compassion for Americans?
We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the power and money are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats.
IN BOTH PARTIES!!!
I have to say, I feel sorry for the children of illegals who are brought here when very young…they had no choice and they don’t know any other home!! How very sad for them! This was not their fault, but they are in danger of losing the only country they have ever known and being sent back to a dung hole of a county that they have no allegience to. Having said that…I’m not sure how I feel about this “dream act”. On one hand, if Reid endorses it, it must be a horrible idea. On the other hand, I feel really bad for those young folks. If they serve this country and take a PATH to citizenship…maybe it would be the right thing to do.
In return for passing the Dream Act, we could insist on a Constitutional amendment that children born here, but with illegal parents, are no longer automatically citizens. That should have been changed long ago!! If we can get rid of automatic citizens just by sneaking across the border to have the baby, it might make the difference in numbers.
Where am I wrong?
Au contraire, they are being raised to have allegience to the home country of their parents, not U.S. It is their parents fault and every child has to deal with bad decisions on the part of their parents.
Do we make exceptions for citizens convicted of violations because of the impact on their children?
No, we don’t.
No amnesty of any kind, ever, unless you want to surrender your country.
I don’t think they are all being raised to have allegience to their home countries, although it is evident that a lot of them are!! Still, if a child is brought here at the age of, say 2 years old…how could he have allegience to a far away country instead of the only one he knows? I am really torn about this. I definitely think the parents should be punished…but it is the children who suffer the most for all of this. It just makes me sad. On the other hand, I see all these high schoolers and college students rioting in the streets and carrying the Mexican flag around proudly, and I want them all GONE.
On November 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm, happyscrapper said:
Happyscrapper: Your thought process to find a commpassionate solution to this mess is admirable.
But the problem is actually created by supposedly compassionate policies that didn’t send these children and their families back to their home countries within weeks of their ILLEGAL arrival in the United States.
The most compassionate thing to do is to send ILLEGAL immigrants back to their home countries quickly, while they still have connections there.
Rapid deportation would also create the proper incentives for people to come to the U.S. legally rather than taking the risk of coming ILLEGALLY.
If the incentives are set up so that the costs of coming ILLEGALLY are higher than the potential benefits, then millions of children would be spared from the legal problems that are caused when their parents break U.S. laws.
Passing the Dream Act or other forms of Amnesty now, will only encourage more families to take the risk of entering the U.S. ILLEGALLY and that hurts yet another generation of children.
In the meantime, American children and children who are here legally deserve our compassionate protection from people who break our laws.
In Mexico’s case, the Mexican Constitution grants Mexican citizenship to a child born anywhere of (a)Mexican parent(s) HERE. In effect Mexico claims jurisdiction over the children of illegals born in this country. And many believe That both illegal alien parents and their children are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” as required for birthright citizenship by the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
I too feel badly for the children born to illegal aliens. But they were born here directly or indirectly as a consequence of their parents subterfuge. If one accepts the low ball number that there are 13 million illegals from Mexico living in this country, that means that 10% of all Mexico’s citizens already live here.
Do we wait to do something about it until that number reaches 20%?
The spigot must be turned off. It’s painful now. It will be much more painful latter.
10 reasons to oppose the nightmare act!!! criminals can apply at the head of the line…no requirements to actually finish any type of degree to get a path to citizenship…the list goes on…
http://www.alipac.us/article5854.html
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for posting the 10 Reasons to Oppose the Dream Act, tiredofito8!
Your link provides lots of good solid information to use in our calls and emails to Senators!
Since we can’t count on our Senators to actually read the bills before they vote on them, our Senators probably are not aware or this information.
And if the Senate offices are aware of this information, then they are going to have a heck of a time trying to defend it to the angry callers who are melting their phone lines!
Vote any politician who supports this bill OUT OF OFFICE in 2012!
Yes, criminals can get this amnesty and the “students” can be up to THIRTY FIVE YEARS OLD!!!!!
Then once they get their amnesty, they can chain migrate their immediate family, like the parents, who BROKE THE LAW in the first place by coming here illegally.
This dream act is a nightmare. Read what Senator Sessions is saying about it here:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/20/dream-act-allow-illegals-criminal-records-gain-residency-gop-says/
They should have been arrested as soon as they freely admitted to being illegals.
Agreed and why weren’t they?
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This from the guy that hires illegals ahead of American citizens what won’t or can’t do the work to your standards?
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If this Dream act passes you’d best have ammo, weapon and food stuffs because it’s going to get ugly. If you thought the election was going to change things, just wait, there is too much time left in this congress to have any effect.
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McCain is as low as one can get…and don’t tell me he’s a hero, he long ago out lived that status.
Think about it….they aren’t doing this to help illegals. They are doing to further indoctrinate Hispanics. They already have the Black and the guilty white and Millenial/Professor/Admin/Union vote…
PLUS—it will be easier for illegals to vote in elections with university employees coaching them off the record.
So it’s not about education at all.
1 Illegal Alien job = 1 Black American on Welfare (plus every social consequence you can think of)
A sure-fire mantra. Why isn’t it used??
James Grenidge
Queens NY
If any foreigner that chooses to can cheat our law, cheapen American citizenship and move in, make babies and stay; why should they care, about assimilation, respecting our traditions, live by our morals or care about obeying any of our laws or make any effort to become one of us?
Why should their children grow up to love this nation when their parents don’t care other than about what materially benefits them or when they’ve been taught its their country for the taking and we owe it to them?
Why should immigrants of any status in this circumstance, respect us when they can so easily assume we don’t respect ourselves enough to stand up and fight for our own Nation?
When millions of highly nationalistic foreign citizens from just next door invite themselves the result has to be destructive and when our own government refuses to protect us and our national integrity, that’s worse.
My daughter-in-laws father was a POW Vietnam (Air Force). “We once would say we brought home no phycos but we had to amend it to “but at least one prima donna.“”
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Let your sidearm be like American Express:
Don’t Leave home without it.
Stacking the deck is not leadership. If the libs/progressives pass this, 2012 will destroy their careers as well. Every state needs a recall procedure to prevent the liars and system gamers to get a foot hold in the gov.
Give illegal aliens a fast-track to citizenship = Never….FIFY
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Free faxes and emails to congress!
Do it now!!
Still no “cone of shame”. I guess it’s been retired. I would bring it back ceremoniously renaming it “the Juan McCain Memorial Cone of Shame” award.
I have a dream that anyone here illegally get a path to citizenship that includes the following:
1. Not having a criminal record
2. Not being on public assistance
(or if they had to use the medical
system, they are paying something
back on a sliding scale)
3. Paying income tax
4. Passing an English test
5. Passing a citizenship test
6. Being over 18 years of age
7. 2 years of public service
I dont care where they come from, or what their party, just that they begin to follow the law and are contributing to society.
I would substitute “prove that they will not be a ward of the state (they have a legal job) for your 3rd point. That was the requirement when my parents immigrated.
To pass this test they should speak English well enough to serve on a jury.
Since serving on a jury is a basic responsibility of citizenship, potential future citizens should be able to fulfill this repsonsibility.
And being able to speak English well enough to serve on a jury would make it more likely that they would speak English well enough to make informed decisions when they vote.
The lack of English skills is a major problem in California! Without English skills, new citizens cannot research candidates or propositions properly.
And you wouldn’t believe how many people get excused from jury duty in California because they don’t understand enough English. Which means those of us who do speak English carry more than our fair share of the jury duty burden.
We should figure that the people calling in support of this Bill are Illegals. With that being said, the Offices of OUR Reps. need to weigh the difference of a Spanish caller, to that of a caller speaking English.
I am sick and tired of Always bending over for the Minority! Common Sense MUST be used in OUR GOVT.!
McCain should have said
Then go home and serve your country. If you would like to serve ours you need to immigrate here legally.
BTW:
I took an oath to uphold the constitution of the United States and since you’ve admitted to being a criminal alien I’ve called ICE.
I know it’ll never happen but one can dream can’t he?