How High Does the Unemployment Rate Have to Get Before Dems Re-Think Tax Hikes?

By Doug Powers  •  December 4, 2010 10:16 AM

**Written by Doug Powers

At Pajamas Media, Ed Driscoll highlights the following question from the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin concerning the most recent “unexpected” lousy jobs report for the umpteenth straight week:

This is going to make the Democrats’ position on taxes even more precarious. Do they really want to vote to subject anyone to a tax hike? I mean, at 10 percent or 12 percent unemployment (though we hope we don’t get to those figures), would they give up their class warfare shtick?

Driscoll helped answered Rubin’s somewhat rhetorical question with a flashback to 2008 featuring Colorado Senator turned Job Killing Czar, Ken Salazar.

Sen. Mitch McConnell was trying to set an emergency trigger point for the price of a gallon of gas at which the US government would allow for increased domestic drilling of oil. As you may recall, Salazar didn’t consider even $10 a gallon to be enough of an emergency to allow more domestic drilling:

This economic snuff-film so impressed one Barack Obama that Salazar was chosen to head up the Department of the Interior as the Secretary charged with ensuring that as many Americans as possible see the interior of an unemployment office.

“How high does the unemployment rate need to get before the Democrats remove the tax hike option from the table?” I’ll answer Jennifer’s question with a question: How high can you count?

If you know anybody who actually believes that the crop of Democrats currently in charge are concerned in the least about real, private sector job growth, please have them contact Al Gore — he has some carbon credits to sell them.
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Related: The full cost of the drilling moratorium
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Unsurprising Update: Fox News: Senate Republicans vote down tax cuts for middle class only:

Senate Republicans on Saturday voted against extending the Bush tax cuts to only the middle class in a pair of votes Democrats are seizing to paint the GOP as guardians of the rich.

The Republicans wouldn’t compromise (what sense does raising taxes on job creators — or anybody for that matter — with unemployment at 10% make?), so now it’s back to the drawing board on negotiations for extending the cuts to all levels of income. In the meantime, the Democrats will paint themselves, ironically, as the party of tax cuts for the middle class who have been blocked by a GOP that is only interested in protecting their rich, fat cat friends (well, except these rich, fat cat friends) when all along the Dems’ goal has been to find a way to let the Bush cuts expire across-the-board.

Here’s a laugher from Claire “pitchforks” McCaskill:

“All those people out there in the Tea Party that are angry about the economics of Washington, they really need to look at this,” Sen. Claire McCaskill., D-Mo., said Friday as Democrats took turns pummeling Republicans.

“They need to pull back the curtain and realize that you’ve got a Republican Party that’s not worried about the people in the Tea Party,” said McCaskill, who will be on the ballot next year. “They’re worried about people that can’t decide which home to go to over the Christmas holidays.”

Claire, the Tea Party didn’t vote to send Republicans to Washington to compromise with you, but to stop you. If anything this little show vote is a good initial indicator for the Tea Party.

**Written by Doug Powers

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  1. #1
    On December 4th, 2010 at 10:40 am, happyscrapper said:

    What makes me furious is when I continually hear the regressives refer to it as “tax cuts for the rich” and say that they don’t need any more tax cuts. They have totally changed the terminology to make it sound like there would acually be a cut in taxes effective Jan. 1st! People…it is NOT.A.TAX.CUT! It is a continuation of the CURRENT tax rate!! Without the continuation, it will be a tax INCREASE! Yes, I know you folks on the blog know this and I’m sorry for shouting. But it makes me crazy!

  2. #2
    On December 4th, 2010 at 10:41 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    These over paid Gubmnt fools spend an awful lot of time being surprised by numbers that surprise no one else. But taxes, ever increasing taxes are the opiate of the Progressive-they can never get enough.

  3. #3
    On December 4th, 2010 at 10:44 am, txvet2 said:

    And no matter what tax rates or regulations they make, they’ll carve out exceptions for themselves and the Soros’s of the world – or, they’ll just not bother to pay their own taxes.

  4. #4
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am, happyscrapper said:

    And about the moratorium…didn’t the courts find in favor of resuming the drilling? And didn’t this administration IGNORE the court ruling? And isn’t that breaking the law? Why are We The People allowing them to continue to get away with that? And now, Obama is banning off-shore drilling everywhere for 7 years? Wait a minute. This country will shut down. All our oil will have to come from Obama’s pals…Chavez in Venezuela and King Blah Blah in Saudi Arabia. I know that is the Evil One’s plan…but why is he being allowed to get away with it? This CAN’T be constitutional! This CAN’T be within the framework of his power! If we can’t drill, we are screwed. He is quickly taking all the fertile and productive land in this country. He is tying up the food producers with rules, regulations and redtape (you know, the 3 R’s) He is trying to destroy our defenses by cutting our nuclear weapons. He is trying to overload our system with millions of illegal aliens and won’t allow better border patrol. Any fool can see what these communists are doing. So why are they NOT BEING STOPPED? I am thinking military intervention at this point.

  5. #5
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am, Terry_Jim said:

    The higher the unemployment, the more people are dependant on Government. If they can demagogue an issue, or a phony one like “tax cuts for the rich”, and gain more dependants, they will. It’s not about tax rates, not about unemployment, not about economic growth, it’s all about power and control.
    For the next 2 years, everything they do will be focused on gaining more power and control, taking personal freedom and opportnity as they do.

  6. #6
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am, beenthere said:

    Government Of Democrats = G.O.D.
    They can do whatever they want,
    whenever they want,
    to whomever they want.
    They are our natural rulers.
    Be still.
    Obey.

  7. #7
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:29 am, happyscrapper said:

    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am, Terry_Jim said:

    And, as soon as they have the majority of people on unemployment, they have their votes locked in. That is why it is so important to stop the handouts!! I know the republicans will be blamed, but perhaps some of the doofuses out there will actually get jobs and realize they don’t WANT to be ruled by the federal government.

    I keep seeing more and more intrusion into our personal daily lives by a federal government gone amok. They are trying to dictate what we eat, how we dress, what food we grow, etc., etc. We must get back to states rights. It is in the Constitution! The federal government should only be responsible for preserving and protecting our consitution, plus assuring our defense. Yes, a few regulations must be their responsibility. But very few!! Now that we have more Republican Governors, we need to push for a movement toward States Rights!! Are you listening, Tea Party??? States Rights!! Put the federal government back where they belong, taking care of the people and not RULING over them!!

  8. #8
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Be still.
    Obey.

    Is that from
    King George the Mad in The Americans Are Revolting Aren’t They?

    Let’s Do It Again ;)

  9. #9
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    How High Does the Unemployment Rate Have to Get Before Dems Re-Think Tax Hikes?

    Dude,

    Really, think about it. At 100% (their goal) they would still propose tax hikes.

  10. #10
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am, Romeo13 said:

    Jobs Bills?

    1. Fair Tax.
    2. Abolish EPA, hand needed functions to States, its job is done.
    3. Turn all Fed owned Land not in use the Fed or Military, INCLUDING All National Parks, to the States who should own them anyway. (let them decide on how to use those resources).
    4. Over ride Obama’s drilling Ban.
    5. Abolish Obamacare, especially the new taxes and the requirment to report every transaction over $600…

    THOSE are Jobs Bills!

  11. #11
    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am, Bogtrotter said:

    There is no limit for Dems. No matter what the rate they insist “govt will provide”. If it got all the way down to trucks driving down main street U.S.A, to toss bread to citizens they would STILL be happy…..especially since they would not be part of the hungry mob.

  12. #12
    On December 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm, 123upnorth said:

    The communists in government eventually want the tax rate to be 100% of income. They then will try to reduce world output so that everyone is forced to live a miserable existance, except for them of course – they will skim off the top to live the high life. The end result will be much like North Korea and its leader.

  13. #13
    On December 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm, right4life said:

    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am, Romeo13 said:

    Jobs Bills?

    1. Fair Tax.
    2. Abolish EPA, hand needed functions to States, its job is done.

    those are great ideas! in addition to getting rid of epa, lets get rid of:

    dept. of education
    dept. of energy
    dept. of agriculture
    dept. of transportation

  14. #14
    On December 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm, prendad said:

    I am so puking sick of this charade going on in our government. The congress seems content to bicker amongst themselves while the economy teters and the unemployment rate continues to climb. I guess if you are all millionaires, who gives a damn about what is happening to everyone else.

  15. #15
    On December 4th, 2010 at 12:47 pm, tre said:

    How High Does the Unemployment Rate Have to Get Before Dems Re-Think Tax Hikes?

    When we find out, we’ll let you know.

    I’m starting to think it’s when it reaches 99.999999%.

  16. #16
    On December 4th, 2010 at 1:04 pm, rightisright said:

    taxes, ever increasing taxes are the opiate of the Progressive-they can never get enough.

    no truer words have been spoken about liberals, demoncrats have been spoken. Don’t think so, just look at the difference in education from one state to another, comparing liberal controlled states to conservative states…there is no comparison. It’s not even about “feeling good”, it’s all about money.

  17. #17
    On December 4th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, rightisright said:

    ooops…money and “power”, one in the same.

    I never got it, why would any of these so-called leaders throughout history to the present want to be a ‘leader’ of a defunct, broke, poor in every way miserable country…where is the reward, the gratification? Has to be a deep seated psychological problem (mental disorder)…Barry, stand up and be counted.

  18. #18
    On December 4th, 2010 at 1:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am, Romeo13 said:

    BINGO!

  19. #19
    On December 4th, 2010 at 2:14 pm, wrcnossen said:

    So the dems want to increase taxes on the rich and be fair to the middle class. I wonder who they think employs the middle class?
    Do they believe that the “rich” keep their money in pools to swim in like Scrooge McDuck? These fools have no idea how an economy works, just some utopian fantasy with them at the top, making decisions for the rest of us.

  20. #20
    On December 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Here’s a laugher from Claire “pitchforks” McCaskill:

    I thought that nitwit was known as “Lovepats”?

  21. #21
    On December 4th, 2010 at 2:58 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    It took me a while to recognize Salazar in the video without his “Village People” cowboy hat.

  22. #22
    On December 4th, 2010 at 2:58 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    at 10 percent or 12 percent unemployment (though we hope we don’t get to those figures), would they give up their class warfare shtick?

    No. They’ve got the blame Bush card they can still use. Here’s why:

    According to Rasmussen Reports, most of the ignorant yuppies in this country still think the economy is Bush’s fault, when in reality we all know his policy on the table will prevent the Obama tax increases.

    So maybe we deserve a solid double digit unemployment.

    I won’t cry or sympathize with anyone if it goes that high.

  23. #23
    On December 4th, 2010 at 3:25 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    NO national sales tax ! Call it what it is not a “fair tax”.

  24. #24
    On December 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm, NeoFan said:

    It is my understanding that the band ABBA actually got taxed 105% one year by the Swedish government.
    The idiots running our government would tax at 200% if they could get away with it and then blame capitalism for the reason the economy failed.

  25. #25
    On December 4th, 2010 at 4:36 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    123upnorth said:

    The communists in government eventually want the tax rate to be 100% of income.

    In my lifetime, the top tax rate in the US was once at something like 91%. Even cutting THAT caused the left to scream.

  26. #26
    On December 4th, 2010 at 4:37 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    It is my understanding that the band ABBA actually got taxed 105% one year by the Swedish government.

    To be fair, I think that was based on the music…

  27. #27
    On December 4th, 2010 at 4:59 pm, Chief RZ said:

    1. They do not care
    2. They do not think therefore can not Re-Think
    3. They want to destroy our country so they can re-make it as a communist state.

    Any questions?

    Only answer is for the good, remaining American Patriotic, thinking people to make their way to the polls in overwhelming numbers to prevent Democrats’ attempts at manipulating and ‘creating’ additional votes like they did in several elections beginning in Illinois (Chicago) when they bought JFK’s presidential election.

  28. #28
    On December 4th, 2010 at 5:42 pm, rambler said:

    The dems want a single payer system for just about everything. If we are all on the dole just think of how easy it would be for them to continually be elected. If we were all collecting unemployment, we would solve that pesky global warming thing, wouldn’t need all that foreign oil and be forced to eat what ever MO wanted us to eat. Utopia achieved!

  29. #29
    On December 4th, 2010 at 6:21 pm, steveegg said:

    At the point the alcohol supply dwindles to Budweiser, I’m taking matters into my own hands.

  30. #30
    On December 5th, 2010 at 6:28 am, stevevvs said:

    It seems to me the taxes that are hurting the economy most are Corporate taxes. I think those taxes should be eliminated.

    I think they are far more important than if income taxes go up a couple percentage points, or whether they don’t. If the current income taxes rates were such great job creators, as opposed to the strangling Corporate taxes, we’d be in great shape now wouldn’t we?

    After all, we’ve had the Bush income tax rates now for years. And in that time, my employer, had gone from 6 buildings in Charlotte, with over 5,200 employees, to 1 building and under 700 employees, of which, about 200 are temps. And of those 200 temps, over 90% are people we laid off, who now have no benefits.

    Just something to consider, based on the reality I see in my own life.

    Put another way, under the Bush Income tax Rate Cuts, we’ve lost over 8 million manufacturing jobs.

    Corporate Taxes really need to be eliminated.

    I’d also be for the repeal of the 16th amendment. But you’d have to eliminate all the programs and agencies we have now, that you wont find in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

  31. #31
    On December 5th, 2010 at 2:58 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Here’s a laugher from Claire “pitchforks” McCaskill:

    What Americans really need is more TV game shows. Everyone should have a chance to get out of debt through a game show, just like Sen. McCaskill.
    Here’s McCaskill explaining her winning formula: “I got out of law school. I was so far in debt and I had always watched game shows, so I planned my first vacation as a young lawyer to go out to Los Angeles. I tried out for three or four game shows. Got on one and was a four-day champion of the game show — the precursor for Alex Trebek — the game show called High Rollers. … I won a bunch of stuff. A trip to Italy, a fur coat and a diamond necklace, about thirty-five thousand dollars worth of stuff. It was great. It paid off all my student loans for law school. …I sold it.”

  32. #32
    On December 6th, 2010 at 2:22 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    NO national sales tax ! Call it what it is not a “fair tax”.

    Why?

    Since the FairTax repeals all other taxes, you would just have one tax to pay. And, it’s completely voluntary; if you buy new items at retail, the tax applies. It doesn’t apply to used items. Nothing would be withheld from your pay. You can then save for your own retirement the way you want. No corporate taxes means business will be focused on business, not the tax ramifications of every decision.

    You should read the FairTax books and vist the website. It’s superior to any socialist income tax.

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