And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 8, 2010 12:30 PM

This morning, the feds arrested Muhammed Hussain, a Muslim convert formerly known as Antonio Martinez, in the Baltimore area on charges related to a bombing plot against military recruitment centers.

Scant details, but here’s the story via FNC:

An official told Fox News that the arrest was part of a sting operation and that there is no threat to the American public. The official said the suspect was given a phony bomb and was arrested after trying to detonate it.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the suspect’s goal was to blow up a military recruitment center in Baltimore County.

One official told Fox News that this is “another Portland-type case.”

Martinez is reportedly a U.S. citizen.

I’ll add his mugshot to my jihadi gallery when it’s released.

If you need refreshers on other Baltimore area jihad activity, see my posts here, here, here, and here.

On a more disturbing note, the feds say this latest arrest is not connected to the still-unsolved spate of Beltway-area shootings at military recruitment stations and other military targets.

Remember: If it’s Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, it’s just another day in the life of a true believer in violent jihad.

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Iowahawk’s David Burge tweets: “Dear Media: Jose Padilla=Abdullah al-Muhajir. Richard Reid=Abdel Rahim. Antonio Martinez=Muhammad Hussein. Use their preferred names.”

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  1. #1
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm, dan708 said:

    This morning, the feds arrested Muhammed Hussain, a Muslim convert formerly known as Antonio Martinez, in the Baltimore area on charges related to a bombing plot against military recruitment centers.

    Uh huh, and Michael Bloombritches wonders why we don’t want a mosque next to Ground Zero. Gads, we’re knee-deep in knuckleheads!

  2. #2
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:36 pm, mattymatt10 said:

    Muhammed Hussain, a Muslim convert

    You don’t say! How shocking, unique and unexpected.

  3. #3
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, Any relation to BHO?

  4. #4
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:39 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Curse those methodist converts!!!!!

    Oh, you said MUSLIM converts…..never mind.

  5. #5
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm, regularguy said:

    A naturalized citizen like the Times Square wannabe, perhaps? Someday being screened as a muslim will be part of the normal process, but obviously not given our current political leadership.

    However, this is more evidence that law enforcement continues to work behind the scenes, despite likely pressure from within and without to bow to political correctness. I would not doubt, either, that some non-true believer muslims working undercover are involved with successful operations such as this. But they are likely few and must be carefully screened as well.

  6. #6
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:45 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah

    An official told Fox News that the arrest was part of a sting operation and that there is no threat to the American public. The official said the suspect was given a phony bomb and was arrested after trying to detonate it.

    Why not make it a shaped live charge vest that’ll only go off inward and let this pond scum save the US Taxpayers a dime! Cripes put the CIA and NASA on this instead of the FBI! Problem Solved.

  7. #7
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm, jbh45 said:

    Oh just another disenfranchised asian youth, as the French would say.

  8. #8
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:54 pm, Hangfire said:

    Ok. So, he’s an American citizen.

    Was he born an American Citizen?
    Is he an Anchor Baby?
    Was he granted Citizenship?

    C’mon, Ms. Napolitano. Inquiring minds want to know.

  9. #9
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:54 pm, rambler said:

    Did the FBI help this nut to build a bomb too?

  10. #10
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Seamus O’Hare

  11. #11
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm, cicerokid said:

    “Life ‘aint easy for a boy named Sue Muhammed.”

  12. #12
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:56 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Alastair MacDonald

  13. #13
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm, Hangfire said:

    Q: Why are our boys still over in A–crackistan if we’re growing our own terrorists now?

  14. #14
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Wikus Van de Merwe

  15. #15
    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:59 pm, Hangfire said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Sister Mary Agnes

  16. #16
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:01 pm, Hangfire said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Chaim Fenstermacher

  17. #17
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:06 pm, walterc said:

    I’m curious as to which mosque he studied at. If it’s the same mosgue that the other homegrowns studies the intricacies of islam, then we may have a problem imam. I know it’s rare, but you just never know now do ya?

    Yeah, let’s build a bigger one at ground zero. That’ll show em what tolerance is all about.

    do I need the sarc tag?

  18. #18
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm, Regulus said:

    The official said the suspect was given a phony bomb and was arrested after trying to detonate it.

    I recall three years talking with a Staff Sergeant who had just returned from a deployment to Iraq, who cautioned that the enemy there was getting better at their business. He said, “All of the stupid ones are dead.”

    Here on the home front, it seems that we’re weeding through the stupid ones – only instead of being dead, they’re going to jail.

  19. #19
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Rabbi Chaim Rosenblatt

  20. #20
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm, spaceycakes said:

    oops
    –sorry HF

  21. #21
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, RedDog said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Mary Katherine O’Shaunessy

  22. #22
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:16 pm, RedDog said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Col. Bat Guano USA ret.

  23. #23
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm, spaceycakes said:
    oops
    –sorry HF

    Doan vorry ’bout it. S’okay! Shalom!

  24. #24
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, cicerokid said:
  25. #25
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    C.S. Lewis

  26. #26
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:38 pm, spaceycakes said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Grey Beaver

  27. #27
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Carbunkle Festerbester

  28. #28
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:46 pm, rightisright said:

    and this guy’s a mooslimb, isn’t that the so called religion of peace..who’d of thunk.

  29. #29
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:49 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Hangfire:

    tá sé ar fad go maith, mo fhear

  30. #30
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm, rightisright said:

    oh, by the way, hang the bastard.

  31. #31
    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:56 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 12:54 pm, Hangfire said:
    Ok. So, he’s an American citizen.

    Was he born an American Citizen?
    Is he an Anchor Baby?
    Was he granted Citizenship?

    C’mon, Ms. Napolitano. Inquiring minds want to know.

    Good questions and I want the answers!! Keep digging. We need to know. It is relevant.

    How many of these “homegrown” terrorists do we need before we deport ALL the mooslums back to the sandboxes from hell? They do not belong in a free society. They belong back in the third century. When Barack Hoosain Obomba is out of office, maybe we can get someone in who is not the mooslums friend, and we can take care of business. And, Hangfire, I agree, we need to bring our boys home. Afghanistan is hopeless. They will not give up their cult practices…ever. Why bother? Let them just destroy each other instead of our bravest and finest! I am not anti-war. I am just anti THIS war.

  32. #32
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm, jhn1 said:

    Always, when they have legally changed their name, use the Muslim name.
    Many states have laws and traditions about using informal names even when not changed by a judge. Use the Muslim name then, too.

  33. #33
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:02 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Nathanial Palmeroy Farquart III esq.

  34. #34
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:06 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 1:49 pm, spaceycakes said:
    tá sé ar fad go maith, mo fhear

    Is fearr Gaeilge briste, na Bearla cliste

    Mahalo nui loa, Spacey!

  35. #35
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:13 pm, tre said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Bubba.

  36. #36
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:16 pm, iamsaved said:

    I’m waiting for the anti-profiling, politically correct, FBI and DOJ to start setting up sting operations for blond, blue eyed Swedish looking gents so we don’t offend the Muslims and cause them too much angst. An equal opportunity sting operation so to speak.

  37. #37
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:19 pm, Hangfire said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Tyrone DeMarcus Washington

  38. #38
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm, Little Ma said:

    …wait for it…

    Robert E. Lee Jones

  39. #39
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Deidre Norquist Veeblefetzer

  40. #40
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm, GraniteMan said:

    Obama to Big Sis;
    This is getting serious with all these plotters. Scan some more of those 5 year olds and their great grandmas. We can’t take any chances.

  41. #41
    On December 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm, chapoutier said:

    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Ohhh! I know this one!

    Mark Krause!

    Ooops. Sorry. Forgot where I was. If it wasn’t a Muslim, it didn’t happen.

  42. #42
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm, Hangfire said:

    I don’t mind being blown up by an anarchist or disgruntled employee, as long as they aren’t Mooslim, Chappy.

  43. #43
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    This morning, the feds arrested Muhammed Hussain

    Which one? Can’t these guys give themselves Dewey Decimal numbers or something?

  44. #44
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:15 pm, spaceycakes said:

    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Timothy McVeigh

    oh, wait. Is he still in prison?

  45. #45
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    chapoutier said:

    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Ohhh! I know this one!

    Mark Krause! Bill Ayers!

    Ooops. Sorry. Forgot where I was. If it wasn’t a Muslim, it didn’t happen.

  46. #46
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of their Prophet [Mohammed] – that it was written in their Koran that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners; that is was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners; and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise. [19]

    When Did Unprovoked Muslim Terrorism Against the U.S.A. Begin?

    Answer: Before George Washington took office as our first President.

  47. #47
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    spaceycakes said:

    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Timothy McVeigh

    oh, wait. Is he still in prison?

    Bloomberg is building the Timothy McVeigh Day Care Center at Ground Zero just to prove we are a tolerant people.

    Yes – sorry, bad taste, but trying to make a point.

  48. #48
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Did you know that Bill Ayers gave his two sons Muslim names?

    It’s true.

  49. #49
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Muhammed Hussain, a Muslim convert

    How many of you know what a person confesses to convert to Islam?

    How many of you know that the man known as Barack Hussein Obama II has already publicly made that confession, in perfect Arabic?

    It’s true.

  50. #50
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm, vinny said:

    You know, all this emphasis on what someone’s name happens to be is really misplaced. After all, why is it his fault over what name his parents chose for him. It’s not like he named himself Mohammed Hussein?

  51. #51
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm, vinny said:

    Ooops…he is a convert who used to be named Anotnio Martinez….never mind. OK NEW DECLARATION: Be suspicious of anyone identifying himself as Hussein.

  52. #52
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm, spaceycakes said:

    sorry, bad taste, but trying to make a point.

    Not bad taste at all–my point was that we have jihadis in prison (or in some cases teaching at our colleges), but if the traitor is deemed a right-wing fascist, they can’t execute him quickly enough.

  53. #53
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm, vinny said:

    On a brighter note, Mohamed is now the most common name chosen for newborns in Brittain. Can’t wait till those happy kids blowgrow up.

  54. #54
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm, vinny said:

    You know, all this emphasis on what someone’s name happens to be is really misplaced. After all, why is it his fault over what name his parents chose for him. It’s not like he named himself Mohammed Hussein?

    Did you read this post before commenting?

    His parents named him Antonio Martinez.

    He converted to Islam, took the new name Muhammed Hussain, and allegedly began plotting to bomb military recruitment centers.

    Pay attention to the details, and stop being ignorant.

  55. #55
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm, RedDog said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    Did you know that Bill Ayers gave his two sons Muslim names?

    It’s true.

    Camel and Dung.

  56. #56
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm, vinny said:

    Ooops…he is a convert who used to be named Anotnio Martinez….never mind. OK NEW DECLARATION: Be suspicious of anyone identifying himself as Hussein.

    You wrote your reply while I was writing mine.

    OK NEW DECLARATION: Be suspicious of anyone who takes the Koran (and it’s calls for armed Jihad) seriously.

  57. #57
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    How many of you know what a person confesses to convert to Islam?

    I don’t know, but once you have converted, you are considered muslim for life. There is no turning back in Islam, or so I’m told.

  58. #58
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    Let’s see if I have this straight.

    A few Graco strollers collapse and pinch a few babies’ fingers, and we recall ALL the Graco strollers.

    A few Corvairs flip over, and we discontinue the Corvair.

    A few L-1011′s crash, and we cease the sale and manufacture of L-1011′s.

    A few Muslims blow up our buildings, hijack our airplanes, hijack ships, plot to blow up landmarks, frag fellow soldiers, kill fellow soldiers and civilians on-base…….

    …. and we build more mosques.

    Got it!

  59. #59
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm, RedDog said:

    Camel and Dung.

    No, not exactly.

    William Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn named their two children Zayd and Malik.

    Zayd is an Arabic name meaning “one who progresses and makes other people progress.” The most famous person in Islam named Zayd is Zayd ibn Harithah, who was the orphan boy fostered by the Muslim Prophet Muhammad.

    Malik is an Arabic word meaning “king”. Malik is one of the names of Allah, “King” in the absolute sense.

  60. #60
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm, RedDog said:

    This is an email that’s been making the rounds……..

    Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper. Ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter? Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister! Written by a British housewife, to her daily newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.

    ———————————————————————————
    A British housewife speaks out

    Are we fighting a war on terror or aren’t we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York on 11 Sept 2001, and have continually threatened to do so since? Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in London, and in downtown Manhattan , and in a field in Pennsylvania? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn’t they?

    And I’m supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

    I’ll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11 and 7/7. I’ll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan I’ll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg’s head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat. I’ll care when the cowardly so-called ‘insurgents’ in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children. I’ll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs. I’ll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

    In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don’t care.

    When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank: I don’t care.

    When I hear that a prisoner – who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and ‘fed special food’ that is paid for by my taxes – is complaining that his holy book is being ‘mishandled,’ you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don’t care.

    And oh, by the way, I’ve noticed that sometimes it’s spelled ‘Koran’ and other times ‘Quran.’ Well, believe me!! You guessed it …… I don’t care!!

    If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends.

    Sooner or later, it’ll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour! If you don’t agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don’t complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country! And may I add: Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Our soldiers don’t have that problem. I have another quote that I would like to add, AND…….I hope you forward all this.

    Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

    1. Jesus Christ
    2. The British Soldier.
    3. The Canadian Soldier.
    4. The US Soldier, and
    5. The Australian Soldier

    One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.

    YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM.
    AMEN!

  61. #61
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:45 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    I don’t know, but once you have converted, you are considered muslim for life.

    Kind of like performing same-sex oral gratification?

  62. #62
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:53 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    A few Muslims blow up our buildings, hijack our airplanes, hijack ships, plot to blow up landmarks, frag fellow soldiers, kill fellow soldiers and civilians on-base…….

    …. and we build more mosques.

    ….and allow more and more muslims, regardless of origin, into the USA
    .

  63. #63
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm, rambler said:

    Islamic terrorism….. the employer of choice for losers, wackos and the depressed. It takes little or no talent/skills to hate and to destroy things. It takes more energy to learn and to build things. islam promotes Heaven as a retirement plan. How inspiring!

  64. #64
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    How many of you know what a person confesses to convert to Islam?

    I don’t know

    Please read this and educate yourself.

    but once you have converted, you are considered muslim for life. There is no turning back in Islam, or so I’m told.

    Correct.

    Which is why we should consider Obama a Muslim. He has publicly confessed the Islamic confession of faith in Arabic. Millions of Muslims around the world take that as evidence that he is a Muslim.

    Americans need to wake up and understand that.

  65. #65
    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    If Obama is truly a Christian, let him publicly confess:

    “Jesus Christ is LORD, and I believe in my heart that God has raised Him from the dead.”

    Why? Because:

    that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    Romans 10:9-10

  66. #66
    On December 8th, 2010 at 4:04 pm, dan708 said:

    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…

    Angus Pudgorney

  67. #67
    On December 8th, 2010 at 4:05 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm, rambler said:

    Islamic terrorism….. the employer of choice for losers, wackos and the depressed.

    That’s more true than you may realize. Because the salvation tought by the Koran is works-based salvation, but with a Jihad jackpot.

    The Koran teaches that there are scales, and all of the good you have done is placed on one side, and all of the bad you have done is placed on the other side. When you die, if the “good” side is heavier, you go to paradise, but if the “bad” side is heavier, you go to hell. But the Jihad jackpot is that if you die fighting in a Jihad, you automatically go to paradise and are rewarded with the 72 virgins.

    So, if are a Muslim male and you know that you have lived a bad life, you may reach a point where you believe that the ONLY possible way for you to get to paradise is to become a Jihadist.

    A warped theology directly leads to increased terrorism.

  68. #68
    On December 8th, 2010 at 4:46 pm, Trollman said:

    ITookTheRedPill, Obama is not a Muslim. He is an atheist. I can’t see him worshiping anyone other than himself.

    And I have no doubt that Obama has far more sympathy for Islam than he does for Christianity. Whenever forced to choose, Obama always chooses the wrong over the right.

  69. #69
    On December 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 4:46 pm, Trollman said:

    ITookTheRedPill,
    Obama is not a Muslim. He is an atheist.
    I can’t see him worshiping anyone other than himself.

    You could very well be right. Part of the point, though, is that he’s told Muslims what they want to hear.

    At the same time he has said, “I am a Christian”, telling some Christians what they want to hear, but he has never publicly confessed that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    I understand that some have made the point that not everyone who confesses “Jesus Christ is Lord” is actually a Christian, but my point is that everone who calls themself a Christian should be able to confess, “Jesus Christ is Lord”, and if they refuse to do so, they are denying Christ and are not Christians… they will be denied by God the Father.

    And I have no doubt that Obama has far more sympathy for Islam than he does for Christianity.

    I agree. Whether Muslim or atheist, we agree that he is not a Christian.

  70. #70
    On December 8th, 2010 at 5:59 pm, Hangfire said:

    I can not fault a Muslim born into a Muslim family; a Jew born into a Jewish family; a Baptist born into a Baptist family, etc.

    It saddens me greatly when a person, born and raised Christian, accepts Mohammed and rejects Christ. I feel for their families.

  71. #71
    On December 8th, 2010 at 6:18 pm, misterbee241 said:
  72. #72
    On December 8th, 2010 at 6:19 pm, misterbee241 said:

    Hangfire, I’m with ya there.

  73. #73
    On December 8th, 2010 at 6:28 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Islam cost to much, and another American on paper only.

  74. #74
    On December 8th, 2010 at 6:42 pm, tre said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 3:15 pm, spaceycakes said:
    And yet another accused bomb plotter named…wait for it…
    Timothy McVeigh

    oh, wait. Is he still in prison?

    Nope. He’s in hell. He was executed in ’97 or ’98. He claimed to be an agnostic and that he would “improvise, adapt, and overcome” what ever he found in the afterlife.

  75. #75
    On December 8th, 2010 at 8:10 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 4:46 pm, Trollman said:
    ITookTheRedPill, Obama is not a Muslim. He is an atheist. I can’t see him worshiping anyone other than himself.

    I have maintained that:

    President Obama’s religion is Narcissism… his god is self.
    Barack Obama worships Barack Obama.

  76. #76
    On December 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm, Marc said:

    In case anyone actually reads Roger Cohen at the NYTimes, he just wrote a column about all the stupid people he met during his one day in Oklahoma and how he had to explain to the dumb Okies that there is nothing to fear from Islam but Israel was a really bad place.

  77. #77
    On December 8th, 2010 at 10:06 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Koran commands all good muslims to fight unbelievers and make Islam supreme.
    How dare they interfere with his freedom of religion?

    Islam is incompatible with Western Civilization.
    The sooner we acknowledge this, the more of us will survive.

  78. #78
    On December 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    BACON AKBAR!

  79. #79
    On December 8th, 2010 at 11:20 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm, Marc said:
    In case anyone actually reads Roger Cohen at the NYTimes, he just wrote a column about all the stupid people he met during his one day in Oklahoma and how he had to explain to the dumb Okies that there is nothing to fear from Islam but Israel was a really bad place.

    A jew hating okies, I can handle. A jew hating jews, I can’t.

    I’d rather have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother working for the New York Times.

  80. #80
    On December 8th, 2010 at 11:21 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm, Virginia Patriot said:
    BACON AKBAR!

    My next t-shirt!

  81. #81
    On December 9th, 2010 at 10:28 am, chapoutier said:

    In case anyone actually reads Roger Cohen at the NYTimes, he just wrote a column about all the stupid people he met during his one day in Oklahoma and how he had to explain to the dumb Okies that there is nothing to fear from Islam but Israel was a really bad place.

    Interesting interpretation, considering he doesn’t mention Israel even once in the piece. And he doesn’t call them stupid. And he doesn’t write about “explaining” anything to them, except maybe helping a guy out trying to recall the Ottoman Empire.

    But I will go ahead and say it. Anyone who supports that stupid anti-sharia law is, at the very least, thinking stupidly at the moment. I will reserve judgment on whether that makes them a “stupid” person in general.

  82. #82
    On December 9th, 2010 at 10:44 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    So, chappie, you want Sharia?

  83. #83
    On December 9th, 2010 at 11:28 am, chapoutier said:

    So, chappie, you want Sharia?

    Nope. Fortunately there is absolutely no danger of it being imposed in Oklahoma or anywhere else in the US. The law is tilting at windmills and that is an inherently stupid activity.

  84. #84
    On December 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am, spaceycakes said:

    Cohen does write this though:

    Not since 9/11 has Islamophobia been at such a pitch in the United States.

    yet completetly ignores this:

    Most Americans are probably unaware that Jews were the victims of more than eight times as many anti-religion hate crimes last year as were Muslims. And the reason is simple: anti-Muslim crimes receive far more media attention.–Lachlan Markay

  85. #85
    On December 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am, spaceycakes said:

    The law is tilting at windmills and that is an inherently stupid activity.

    sort of like that Equal Rights Amendment some years back.

  86. #86
    On December 9th, 2010 at 11:50 am, TK-421 said:

    I find it funny whenever its a muslim doing any sort of attack, the media and the people for the most step on egg shells for fear of offending them, though I find it more likely for fear of oil supplies and livining. But when a Christian does it, its drawn out and publicly lashed and pointed out the manner of his or her religion, in fact even Communist allied terrorist in the 60′s-80′s were let off much easier. Something to be said about striking fear I guess.

    People will defend the Muslim as he’s likely to murder you, while being willing to make fun of the christain who in modern times will do nothing. And hate crimes happen reguardless to whoever whenever, and those involving Muslims in the US are often by cowardly people who set fire to places of worship or work, and at worst most of the time are beaten up. Meanwhile just how many Jews and blacks have been nailed to crosses, or how many whites in Panther dominated area’s have been beaten to death. People in the Media and among other intrists are piling on the Muslim community and making matters seem worse than they truely are to garnner favor, or to “get in good” so to speak with trade relations.

    But I’m too simple for such things two muslims I have day to day contact I treat as indaviduals, one is an butthole and I treat him as such, the other is restrained and good natured and I treat him as such, others either openly worry around them, or hate them for just being muslims, others are like me, Saddly I find that last group the smallest, the first group the largest, and the middle too stupid to contemplate actions longer than next week. If I hate you I have a reasson, differing personalities I guess.

  87. #87
    On December 9th, 2010 at 12:24 pm, chapoutier said:

    Not since 9/11 has Islamophobia been at such a pitch in the United States.

    yet completely ignores this:

    Most Americans are probably unaware that Jews were the victims of more than eight times as many anti-religion hate crimes last year as were Muslims. And the reason is simple: anti-Muslim crimes receive far more media attention.–

    He doesn’t ignore it. Those statements are not mutually exclusive. In 2000 1.9% of all religiously motivated hate crimes were directed toward Muslims. Predictably, in 2001 and 2002 it was over 20 and 10 percents, respectively. But since then it has evened out to around 8-8.5% every year. Four times higher than pre-9/11.

    But if you do want to compare the two, the hate crimes against Muslims were much more violent. Over 1/3 of all hate crimes against Muslims involved aggravated or simple assault. that number is less than 10% for Jewish people. In fact, there were in gross numbers, more aggravated assaults against Muslims than Jews (11 to 9), despite far greater number of Jewish Americans and far greater number of total incidents.

    Nor are hate crime statistics the only, or even best, measure of islamophobia. This law is proof of that.

  88. #88
    On December 9th, 2010 at 1:06 pm, Trollman said:

    TK-421 said:

    I find it funny whenever its a muslim doing any sort of attack, the media and the people for the most step on egg shells for fear of offending them, though I find it more likely for fear of oil supplies and livining. But when a Christian does it, its drawn out and publicly lashed and pointed out the manner of his or her religion, in fact even Communist allied terrorist in the 60′s-80′s were let off much easier.

    That’s because “dog bits man” isn’t news. When “man bites dog,” then it is news.

    Muslims killing people because of their religious beliefs? It isn’t news, because it happens all the time.

    Christians killing people because of their religious beliefs? That’s news, because it is shocking.

  89. #89
    On December 9th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Jews were the victims of more than eight times as many anti-religion hate crimes last year as were Muslims

    so you’re saying the above is not true?

  90. #90
    On December 9th, 2010 at 1:23 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    chappie, apparently you’re unaware of the case in NJ where a woman was denied a protective order against her estranged husband because his previous raping of her was “consistent with his religious beliefs”. Sharia in action in the U.S. It’s already here, wake up.

  91. #91
    On December 9th, 2010 at 3:00 pm, chapoutier said:

    so you’re saying the above is not true?

    No. I said that being true and saying that this is the greatest period of islamophobia are not mutually exclusive. And I said that hate crimes against Muslims were generally more violent than those against Jews.

    chappie, apparently you’re unaware of the case in NJ where a woman was denied a protective order against her estranged husband because his previous raping of her was “consistent with his religious beliefs”. Sharia in action in the U.S. It’s already here, wake up.

    One: The judge NEVER cited sharia law. He used the husband’s religious beliefs as one component of his ruling to speak to possible criminal intent. The same way a judge may take into account the religious beliefs of a fundamentalist Christian parent accused of child abuse for seeking “faith healing” in lieu of medical attention for their child. It is a fine, but very important distinction. You can agree or disagree whether this should be a valid component for determining criminal intent, but it is far, far different from saying that we have ceded our legal system to sharia.

    2. Even ignoring all of the above, the judge was overruled on appeal. So –yeah!– the system works and once again, there is no Sharia law in the US.

  92. #92
    On December 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm, T-Bone said:

    Four times higher than pre-9/11.

    Sometimes it takes a tragedy to wake people up to the reality around them.

  93. #93
    On December 9th, 2010 at 9:20 pm, T-Bone said:

    And no, I did not time my previous post to be at 9:11. Some higher authority must have caused that.

  94. #94
    On December 9th, 2010 at 10:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    Sometimes it takes a tragedy to wake people up to the reality around them.

    So we know T-Bone is pro-hate crime. Anyone else care to come out of the closet on this?

  95. #95
    On December 22nd, 2010 at 3:19 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Heeeerrrrreessssss Chap!!!

    Right on cue to defend Islam like 99.9% of all secularists do.

    Remember, Muslims (even the fake ones who are terrorists) get special dispensation. It makes chap feel warm and fuzzy inside.

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