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1. #1
   On December 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am, ThunderHawkk said:

   Enroll in college…. It’s obvious to anyone with a brain (that leaves out Dems) that millions of them would have “emrolled” at university and then never attended a single class.

   Demonrats are scum. They are traitors to America.

   And as for Joe Mansion not voting? What does that tell you? That jerk’ll be voting for Cap and Trade before long.

   “uh, no, I meant I did’t like THAT version of the Cap and Trade bill. This one is MUCH better.”

2. #2
   On December 19th, 2010 at 11:33 am, tbear44 said:

   The Republicans weren’t in a position to block anything, up to and including bias from the Associated Press.

   AP? Noooo say it isn’t so!

3. #3
   On December 19th, 2010 at 11:39 am, thejim said:

   Our problems continue with Senate RINOs still in office. The next 2 years may be kinder to the country than the past 2, but we’re still in a battle as long as the moronic element continues to send/return Liberal office holders to Washington.

4. #4
   On December 19th, 2010 at 11:48 am, sbw999 said:

   The corrupt media having a tantrum, and misrepresenting liberal legislation to make Republicans look bad??? Color me …shocked.

5. #5
   On December 19th, 2010 at 12:01 pm, mchristian said:

   I watched Dick Durbin’s speech yesterday and now I’m convinced this is a bill that needs to be passed. It’s obvious from the examples Durbin gave of illegal alien student’s performance that they are all patriotic, over-achieving super geniuses and we would be fools to let them get away. While we’re at it, we should send our lazy, slacker teenagers out of the country. Apparently, they just don’t measure up.

6. #6
   On December 19th, 2010 at 12:03 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

   This was another example of how kabuki works in DC. Once it becomes clear that the votes aren’t there, the final vote is executed in a way that allows as much cover as possible for vulnerable pols.

   I believe this bill had zero chance of passage and had it required 80 votes to kill, those votes might have materialized. Only Republicans can save the Democrats and they usually deliver.

7. #7
   On December 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, PhredE said:

   In our local edition of this same AP news item, the story omits the all important two words: ‘illegal alien’.

   http://www.katu.com/news/national/112129639.html

   There are generous comments posted in response to this AP sob story — FYI.

8. #8
   On December 19th, 2010 at 12:10 pm, bjc said:

   *I saw the headline and read the AP article this morning; Typical AP bovine scatology; Citizens must remember, 99.9% of the MSM are advocacy pimps for illegal alien amnesty and all things destructive to our beloved country; Like P-BO, they desire a Kenyan Utopia, which means “Death to America”; We must stay engaged, fight them with all we’ve got, and target for removal from office ALL Dems and ALL rat bastard RINO’s, even to the point of looking 6 years down the road to keep that communist Murkowksi in our sights; Let’s get results, not give excuses!

9. #9
   On December 19th, 2010 at 12:31 pm, rambler said:

   I fail to understand why so many Americans are willing to give away American citizenship so cheaply. None of them grasp the unintended consequences of another amnesty. There is no assurance that all those given the freebee will be model citizens. I’m tired of the gov cherry picking the laws that are enforced and the ones that aren’t. How pathetic politicians are that they have to pander to voters to get elected. If they don’t have good ideas for the country, then they deserve not to be elected at all. Buying the votes of illegals with amnesty will not improve their image. All who voted for the bill should be fired.

10. #10
    On December 19th, 2010 at 12:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If anyone watched the increasingly annoying Chris Wallace this morning, the guy can’t stay on topic when his guests are answering his own questions. He derailed himself at least twice: on DREAM and the judge’s ruling declaring parts of Obamacare unconstitutional.

    Most annoying was when he obsessed over lecturing the discussion panel on the need for some sort of resolution on insuring those with existing conditions when the question concerned the constitutionality of Obamacare. The ends don’t justify the means Chris, especially when it requires trashing the constitution.

    How long before this “fair and balanced” liberal goes Chris Matthews on us?

11. #11
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:10 pm, tbear44 said:

    On December 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, PhredE said:

    Reading those comments it is pretty clear that Americans Don’t Want No Frikkin Dream Act!!

12. #12
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:12 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Nothing But Propaganda
    With the stark exception of Lou Dobbs, almost all of the media is in on the sell out of America. Most of what I see on T.V. is designed to manipulate the public. The administration has only recently done enforcement actions with the intent of providing tear jerking pictures of “poor immigrants”. The way slanted dishonest polls are being used to sway public opinion and presented as news is stunning. This campaign of disinformation is worthy of Goebbels.

    We are being convinced that it would be wrong to insist that people comply with the law.

    That it is racist to want foreign nationals to adapt to our language, culture, and laws.

    That anyone who can run across the border should be given U.S. citizenship.

    That foreign nationals who break our laws sneaking into our country should be entitled to things that citizens cannot get, like in-state tuition.

    That citizens who object to abandoning the rule of law are a small minority of restrictionist, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, nativist yahoos.

    That citizens who step up to do the job the government won’t do are vigilantes.

    That we have no choice but to surrender our country.

    Wake me up when the world turns right side up.

13. #13
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, Lindsay said:

    The only people crying about this Nightmare Act are the ones pressing “2″ for espanol. Get in line for legal citizenship and learn to speak English first. Yes, Congress, it is that simple.

14. #14
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:23 pm, BrianNY said:

    The Associated Press says:
    

    Republicans block youth immigration bill

    I’m confused. Just yesterday, I learned that the Obama Administration’s “Science Czar,” John Holdren, is cheerleading for a decrease of American-born citizens through population control for “environmental” reasons:

    1. In a 1969 article, Holdren and co-author Paul R. Ehrlich argued that, “if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come.”

    2. In 1973 Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because “210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many.

    3. In 1977, Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne H. Ehrlich, and Holdren co-authored the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment; they discussed the possible role of a wide variety of solutions to overpopulation, from voluntary family planning to enforced population controls, including forced sterilization for women after they gave birth to a designated number of children, and recommended “the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences” such as access to birth control and abortion.

    Now, except for 5 of their US Senators, it appears that Democrats don’t care about population control anymore, but would rather allow US population numbers to go up through the elimination of US immigration standards.

    Until Democrats (and therefore, the main-stream media) can rationally explain to me why they appear to desire natural-born US population numbers to continue to go down (for environmental reasons) while advocating for US immigration numbers to continue to go up (for non-environmental reasons??) I will refuse to take them seriously as a political party looking out for my interests as a natural-born American citizen.

15. #15
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:28 pm, Azygos said:

    There is already a path for foreign nationals to serve in our military and get on a path to citizenship. We don’t need another law that basically says the same thing. And if they want to go to college go back to your own friggen country. You illegals that were brought here by law breaking parents have a route to become citizens. Go back to your own country and show you can be law abiding and apply to become citizens here at the end of the line like everybody else who did not break the law.

    And stop waving mexican flags during your demonstrations. You want to become American Citizens yet you constantly wave mexican flags. Cognitive dissonance anyone?

16. #16
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    Let’s keep score here… Defeated DREAM ACT.. Passed DADT… Compromised on EXTENDING current tax levels… In the real world I would have to say 1-1 and 1… Not very good if you ask me!!!

17. #17
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, fred5676 said:

    the DREAM act received 55 “yes” votes. Five Democrats voted “no”

    If Harry has 55 marbles, and his best friends won’t loan him their 5 marbles so he can make a nice big pile of marbles, Harry doesn’t have very good friends, does he?

    AP: This is a trick question, right????

18. #18
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:57 pm, fred5676 said:

    While the rest of the world is learning English at an incredible rate, our Spanish-speaking immigrants (both illegal and illegal??) either have a hard time learning or just refuse to try. Don’t believe it? Just try to find an LA radio station that broadcasts in English.

    Maybe instead of the DREAM Act, those who pushed for it should lobby for PBS to replace all Spanish language programming with ENGLISH LESSONS before they start talking about DISPLACING American citizens in our colleges. Our colleges already are overflowing!!!

    The zombie DREAM Act is so wrong on all levels – but don’t think it won’t be back in 3 years.

19. #19
    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:58 pm, Savage24 said:

    The sad thing here is Mitch McConnell’s three RINO’s that went along with Harry Reid. Also take a look at all those RINO’s that voted for DADT and the one’s that didn’t vote. The Republican leadership in the Senate definately needs changing.

20. #20
    On December 19th, 2010 at 2:07 pm, letget said:

    Savage24#19,
    I just hope the r’s and some d’s will kill the start bill. No one has read the thing (I know that doens’t matter) but no telling what is in this bill bho and dear hillary cooked up!
    L

21. #21
    On December 19th, 2010 at 2:22 pm, cicerokid said:

    bovine scatology; Citizens must remember, 99.9% of the MSM are advocacy pimps for illegal alien amnesty and all things destructive to our beloved country;

    Then why do we bother to march on Washington?

    Camping in front of the press seems likea good idea.

22. #22
    On December 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm, rightisright said:

    I fail to understand why so many Americans are willing to give away American citizenship so cheaply.

    Easy answer: LSM and public school indoctrination. Don’t think things out, just feel good about your decisions…the lefts way of doing things, all wrong in the end. There’s that nasty consequences thing again.

23. #23
    On December 19th, 2010 at 3:54 pm, greasywrench said:

    I saw that caption and read the comments yesterday on the Yahoo home page. From what I gathered by reading the comments, most critical thinking Americans weren’t fooled by this POS legislation. And, as someone else posted/commented on, Democraps ARE traitors to America. Once again the progressives have tried to foist/force feed another bill that no one wants. And yet the AP blames the Repubs.

    Media Bias? What media bias?

24. #24
    On December 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm, tettes said:

    You know about the filibuster, right? Every bill doesn’t need 60 votes unless it’s being filibustered by a senator. In this case, the repubs filibustered, thus requiring 60 votes. They have filibustered a record number of bills, which is why Democrats will change the filibuster rules on January 5.

    Whether you like the legislation or not, you have to admit the Republicans have completely broken the Senate by filibustering EVERYTHING. 60 votes needed to pass anything is not the way the Senate is set up to function.

25. #25
    On December 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Yeah. Right. If it weren’t for Republican filibusters, everything would be kosher in the Senate. Committee approval was just an oppressive inefficiency that prevented legislation too important to be subjected to discussion from passing.

    In other words, the Senate was designed by the Founding Fathers to be a rubber stamp mechanism for the most radical interests among us. Cue “Twilight Zone” theme.

26. #26
    On December 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm, fred5676 said:

    60 votes required to break a filibuster prevents tyranny by the majority.

27. #27
    On December 19th, 2010 at 5:59 pm, tettes said:

    In other words, the Senate was designed by the Founding Fathers to be a rubber stamp mechanism for the most radical interests among us. Cue “Twilight Zone” theme.

    No, but the founding fathers also didn’t mean to require 60 votes in the Senate to pass every piece of legislation.

    In any other snapshot in our country’s history, 55 votes has been enough to pass legislation in the Senate. Not any more. That’s why rules will be changing on Jan. 5.

28. #28
    On December 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm, tettes said:

    60 votes required to break a filibuster prevents tyranny by the majority.

    No, it stops legislation from happening.

    If the Senate always functioned like this historically, hardly any legislation would have passed.

    You call it tyranny, but the current Congress was voted for by the people, remember? And the reason all of this legislation is coming down to the last minute is because these same bills were finished in the house months ago but have been languishing under the Republican’s abuse of the filibuster rule.

29. #29
    On December 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Tettes: There is an alternative for the Dems against filibuster. Honor the committee process, include Republicans and don’t wait for the last minute to cram everything down everyone’s throats.

    Believe me, I am not GOP defender but the Dems are detestable and cannot be defended. If I had my way, I would wrap them all up in one package and push them off of a cliff and then start from scratch.

    By the way, it is tyranny to rule without the consent of the people regardless of whether it is the Dems or the Assistant Dems doing it. It is the voice of the Tea Party that is stymieing this tyranny by the entrenched criminal class of corrupt weasels so your argument that they are doing the will of the people because they were elected by the people makes no sense. Only 13% of “the people” agree with you.

30. #30
    On December 19th, 2010 at 6:49 pm, rightisright said:

    tettes, Are you saying the minority party shouldn’t oppose or express their concerns? Why not after all they are in congress because they “were voted for by the people”?

    You have a very one sided view of how congress should preform, what will you say when in 2012 the Repukes become Republicans and control both houses and the WH?

31. #31
    On December 19th, 2010 at 8:14 pm, frontierguy said:

    I read that 3 republicans voted with the dems. So, wouldn’t that make it 8 dems who voted against this monstrosity? I keep trying to educate my hapless liberal acquaintances…. The Republicans cannot block anything. If they filibuster, the dems have to let them do it, they do not have the power to stop anything. The reason why any legislation doesn’t pass is because the dems don’t want it, but want to say they tried. Then they get to have their lap dogs in the media turn the repubs into villains through disinformation. It seems the open borders crowd isn’t smart enough to figure this out.

32. #32
    On December 19th, 2010 at 8:56 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    “Mom! Republicans are being mean to poor, helpless kids again!”

    while we steal water bottles and blankets from the homeless–I read it on Huff & Puff.

33. #33
    On December 19th, 2010 at 9:34 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On December 19th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, PhredE said:

    In our local edition of this same AP news item, the story omits the all important two words: ‘illegal alien’.

    http://www.katu.com/news/national/112129639.html

    There are generous comments posted in response to this AP sob story — FYI.

    Interesting picture and caption along with that sob story:

    Undocumented UCLA student Leslie Perez, 22, weeps while watching a televised debate of the Dream Act in the Senate at the UCLA Downtown Labor Center in Los Angeles.

    Undocumented at 22? We’re supposed to feel sorry for someone who refuses to take responsibility for themselves at 22 years old and get documented? Yeah I know, socialists still think of those aged 26 as kids, but at some point, it’s time to grow up.

    I’m sure there are many other foreign students who go to college here legally, so obviously they made an effort at whatever process is required.

    UCLA student? Last I heard, it wasn’t that easy to get into UCLA. Was another student (legal citizen) rejected because UCLA accepted an illegal alien?

    Was this illegal alien allowed to pay in-state tuition?

34. #34
    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On December 19th, 2010 at 1:57 pm, fred5676 said:

    The zombie DREAM Act is so wrong on all levels – but don’t think it won’t be back in 3 years.

    It’ll be back sometime between June and October 2012 just in time for the elections.

35. #35
    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On December 19th, 2010 at 4:17 pm, tettes said:

    You know about the filibuster, right? Every bill doesn’t need 60 votes unless it’s being filibustered by a senator. In this case, the repubs filibustered, thus requiring 60 votes. They have filibustered a record number of bills, which is why Democrats will change the filibuster rules on January 5.

    Whether you like the legislation or not, you have to admit the Republicans have completely broken the Senate by filibustering EVERYTHING. 60 votes needed to pass anything is not the way the Senate is set up to function.

    Perhaps someone can provide more information on this, but I thought it was a rule change forced by the DEMOCRATS that requires the 60 votes.

36. #36
    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Seems to me the filibuster (or more accurately the threat of filibuster) was used pretty liberally by the Democrats when the Senate was ostensibly run by the GOP.

37. #37
    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:41 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Seems to me the filibuster (or more accurately the threat of filibuster) was used pretty liberally by the Democrats when the Senate was ostensibly run by the GOP.

    I seem to recall it was a change forced by the Democrats when they started fillibustering judicial nominees rather than just an up or down vote.

    Now they snivel loudly when the rules and process of the Senate are mangled even worse by them, and the Republicans stand up to them.

38. #38
    On December 19th, 2010 at 10:57 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Republicans never made them actually filibuster. They didn’t even force a cloture vote in most cases. They just folded like cheap suits.