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1. #301
   On January 13th, 2011 at 3:49 pm, Khyris said:

   LMAO! You’re not even trying to make sense anymore. I think we’re done here.

2. #302
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:00 pm, corkie said:

   On January 13th, 2011 at 3:45 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

   Bush used a tragedy for his own political aggrandizement

   Even if this is true – that isn’t branding.

   Nobody is expecting you to be a marketing expert so it’s ok for you to admit your error. It might help redeem whatever credibility you may have had before you started talking out your a$$ about a subject that you didn’t understand.

3. #303
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

   Trivia Question:
   How many times did Obama use the word “anger” in his “important speech on race” on March 18, 2008?

4. #304
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm, granite said:

   Ultimately, Corkie, if Bush regretted the banner, then it means he had a hand in the decision to put it up.

   ?????

   I and others here regret the political rally (“event”) in Arizona that exploited the shooting victims took place.

   Can you show us where we “had a hand in the decision to” hold that “event”?

   …Didn’t think so.

   …while covertly assisting our mortal enemies.

   You mean sort of the way FDR and Churchill assisted The USSR during WWII?
   …The least bad alternative at the time?

5. #305
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:05 pm, granite said:

   On January 13th, 2011 at 3:49 pm, Khyris said:

   LMAO! You’re not even trying to make sense anymore. I think we’re done here.

   I think you’re right, Khyris….
   (I saw your post one post too late…apologies.)

6. #306
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:13 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm, granite said:

   You mean sort of the way FDR and Churchill assisted The USSR during WWII?
   …The least bad alternative at the time?

   Are you seriously saying the Sandanistas were worse than the Ayatollah?? Or that even if they were, it was justified to ie and subvert democracy to aid them?

7. #307
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:25 pm, happy2behere said:

   Even the narcissistic Bill Clinton, who was literally workin’ the crowd in Oklahoma City, didn’t turn their memorial into a pep rally.

8. #308
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:30 pm, happy2behere said:

   No WMD, wah, wah. Had your cry now, all done sweetie?

9. #309
   On January 13th, 2011 at 4:33 pm, duff65 said:

   What did anyone expect from a democratic memorial service. This one just wasn’t as bad as the one for Wellstone. Of course, it would have been difficult to be worse than that one. Booing when the governor spoke was the last straw.

10. #310
    On January 13th, 2011 at 4:34 pm, corkie said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 4:13 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Are you seriously saying the Sandanistas were worse than the Ayatollah??

    You really aren’t making sense anymore. But do you think that the Ayatollah received material benefit from the crumby F-14 parts he overpaid for?

11. #311
    On January 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    I watched it. The only thing missing was a mosh pit up front.

12. #312
    On January 13th, 2011 at 4:58 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Enough of the irrelevant crap about “Branding” the Iraq War.

    Obama would brand a plague if he thought it would get him re-elected.

    More importantly, the violence-mongering left is at work on Twitter and You Tube.

    Saying she should be assassinated.

    Lovely behavior from the marxists Dems.

13. #313
    On January 13th, 2011 at 5:20 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, thank god Obama shipped bumblin Joe to Baghdad for the week. Hopefully Holder grabbed him one of those T-Shirts.

14. #314
    On January 13th, 2011 at 5:47 pm, blues said:

    Why would the memorial service be held at the University of Arizona in the first place.Maybe to give Bambi a friendly crowd of Leftists to pander to? The whole thing makes me sick,that anyone could be so self-centered and disrespectful to make such a spectacle of a solemn event.
    I realize the rally was set up by the university,but is Bambi so stupid that he didn’t know that such an event being held on a college campus would probably degenerate into a political rally.
    Pease people REMEMBER IN 2012.

15. #315
    On January 13th, 2011 at 5:54 pm, blues said:

    Sorry to disagree with Michelle but- wrong speech,wrong time,wrong venue,wrong speaker.
    As an atheist,even I am offended when Bambi quotes scripture.

16. #316
    On January 13th, 2011 at 6:42 pm, John Deaux said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 3:45 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    Bush used a tragedy for his own political aggrandizement, and so has Obama.

    I must have missed the free t-shirts with a catchy slogan being handed out at ground zero while W was hugging a firefighter.

    Propaganda is one thing, but when the whole thing has a pep rally atmosphere, something is seriously wrong.

    To be fair, we should at least acknowledge the fact that he didn’t stop to give a shout out to anyone before expressing condolences.

17. #317
    On January 13th, 2011 at 7:25 pm, Southpaw said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 2:01 pm, JHSII said:

    Back to the subject at hand – is anyone else glad they missed the Tuscon Obama Pep Rally??

    I had a backlog of Simpsons episodes to watch. To be honest, it gets harder and harder to tell the difference between a Simpsons episode and the Obama presidency.

18. #318
    On January 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Turns out they bussed in members of Unidos Latinos Arizona.

    http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-phoenix/chicanos-unidos-arizona-members-attend-together-we-thrive-memorial

19. #319
    On January 13th, 2011 at 8:37 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    correction: chicanos unidos Arizona

20. #320
    On January 13th, 2011 at 9:30 pm, rambler said:

    No matter how well the speech was received, it appeared to be totally insincere and shallow. Just another photo opt.

21. #321
    On January 13th, 2011 at 10:02 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Turns out they bussed in members of Unidos Latinos Arizona.

    http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-phoenix/chicanos-unidos-arizona-members-attend-together-we-thrive-memorial

    Someone should grab a screen-cap of that link.

    It clearly shows this was much more of an orchestrated event with knowledge higher than some racist group.

    You could stretch and say some ignorant members of the public were let in and cheered, but when this kind of organization takes place for what is supposed to be a memorial, there is no other conclusion.

    The one individual quoted at that link says he was escorted to the front by security for seating, which suggests someone was rather concerned about certain people being in any photo op of Oblahblah rather than public seating at a memorial.

    If the disgusting pigs on the left want to turn a memorial for one of their own into a spectacle, that’s up to them. When they create the same political funeRALLY regardless of political affiliation of those they are supposed to be memorializing…it is beyond words.

22. #322
    On January 13th, 2011 at 11:16 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Yep, truly disgusting display of political manipulation. It was obviously orchestrated from the WH. The theme was used in an OFA article in Feb. 2008. “Together We Thrive” was recycled from the campaign. I’ve never been to any memorial that involved bussing people in to cheer.
    They’re getting the Univ. to take the heat for the t-shirts, apparently we weren’t the only ones appalled at the idea.

23. #323
    On January 14th, 2011 at 1:23 am, Dasher said:

    Origins of “Together we Thrive” — right there on OFA — http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/johnberry_iv/C94H

24. #324
    On January 14th, 2011 at 8:05 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Trivia Question:
    How many times did Obama use the word “anger” in his “important speech on race” on March 18, 2008?

    The answer is TEN (10).

    But for all those who scratched and clawed their way to get a piece of the American Dream, there were many who didn’t make it – those who were ultimately defeated, in one way or another, by discrimination. That legacy of defeat was passed on to future generations – those young men and increasingly young women who we see standing on street corners or languishing in our prisons, without hope or prospects for the future. Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways. For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years. That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician’s own failings.

    And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews. The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.

    In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don’t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience – as far as they’re concerned, no one’s handed them anything, they’ve built it from scratch. They’ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they’re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

    Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren’t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

    Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many.

    When he gave that speech, I saw this guy for what he is:
    A Community Communist Organizer Agitator.

    Pure Alinsky.

    He was not seeking to heal that anger.
    He was looking to rub it raw and blame capitalism in the process.

    It has been noted that multiple times recently Barack Obama has misquoted the Declaration of independence, leaving out the words “by their Creator”.

    Well, back when Obama gave that speech on March 18, 2008, he also misquoted our Constitution, leaving out the words “of the United States” and, in my opinion, implying that U.S. sovereignty doesn’t matter to someone who considers himself a “citizen of the world”.

25. #325
    On January 14th, 2011 at 8:07 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 10:02 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Someone should grab a screen-cap of that link.

    Done…

    URL: http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-phoenix/chicanos-unidos-arizona-members-attend-together-we-thrive-memorial.
    Accessed: 2011-01-14. ( Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5vjMn1KXn )

26. #326
    On January 14th, 2011 at 8:26 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On January 14th, 2011 at 1:23 am, Dasher said:

    Origins of “Together we Thrive” — right there on OFA —

    Well done, Dasher, well done!!!

    That is a very, very revealling post on the “my.barackobama.com“/”Organizing for America” web site!

    So important that I have archived it in case it gets scrubbed:

    URL: http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/johnberry_iv/C94H.
    Accessed: 2011-01-14. ( Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5vjNxLThX )

    It shows how the roots of the “Together We Thrive” are anti-capitalist (a.k.a. Communist), and were promoted by those seeking “a revolution” long before the shooting in Tuscon.

    Together We Thrive
    By John Berry IV – Feb 11, 2008 [almost three years ago]

    For too long Americans have been set one against the other, it is a side affect of a free market society. How can profits be maximized, how can I get the work done for the lowest possible costs. This continually sets one group against the other, especially in the blue collar sectors of America. It has become a part of the American Business model, whether it was indentured servants, slaves picking cotton, sharecroppers, the industrious people that built the railroads or todays migrant workers. As long as we remain divided, fighting for the scraps that America has to offer it will be one group against the other.

    What I see in Obama is a chance for a revolution…

    Barack and his fellow Communists used a mass murder memorial service as a platform to hand out T-shirts and promote a revolutionary Communist agenda.

27. #327
    On January 14th, 2011 at 8:37 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On January 13th, 2011 at 11:16 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Yep, truly disgusting display of political manipulation. It was obviously orchestrated from the WH. The theme was used in an OFA article in Feb. 2008. “Together We Thrive” was recycled from the campaign. I’ve never been to any memorial that involved bussing people in to cheer.
    They’re getting the Univ. to take the heat for the t-shirts, apparently we weren’t the only ones appalled at the idea.

    Virginia Patriot, I apologize for missing the fact that your comment preceeded Dasher’s. Thank you for making this point. Well done!

    When have any of us EVER been to a memorial service that
    handed out T-Shirts?!?

    Obama turned a memorial service into a campaign rally,
    complete with busloads of vocal supporters to cheer for him.

    It also reminded me of the 10/2/10 “One Nation Working Together” rally where they paid to bus people in, give them free T-shirts and box lunches, all in an effort to promote a Socialist/Communist agenda.

    But when we pointed that agenda out, the “One Nation” Rally Web Site scrubbed Communist & Socialist references… but not before I archived their site and caught them in the act of scrubbing it.

28. #328
    On January 14th, 2011 at 9:05 am, granite said:

    Are you seriously saying the Sandanistas were worse than the Ayatollah?? Or that even if they were, it was justified to ie and subvert democracy to aid them?

    Who the Hell was talking, or even cares, about “Iran-Contra”?

    I was referring to the aid given the Taliban in the 80s while they were fighting against the Soviets in Afghanistan; because of which the non-America-haters have been accused by the America-haters of “creating” our enemy, the Taliban.

    War, and life, are sometimes more complicated than that.
    One makes the best decision at a given time with the information and resources one has at that given time.

29. #329
    On January 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am, granite said:

    …meant to add: …in the particular set of circumstances existing at that given time….

30. #330
    On January 14th, 2011 at 1:09 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    RedPill,

    Glad someone who is better at computers picked up on that and provided links for you to archive. It’s a team effort!

31. #331
    On January 14th, 2011 at 1:41 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Yes, Virginia Patriot, it is a team effort.

    To make a point to others, it is a team effort comprised of indivuals who voluntarily work together, not an involuntary, government-mandated “collective” effort!

    Everything the left does is “collective”…

    For example, Obama has said that he believes his individual salvation depends upon our “Collective Salvation“.

    And one of my favorites:

    Guess Which Collectivist Said It…

32. #332
    On January 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Virginia Patriot, where did you first learn of the OFA connection?

33. #333
    On January 14th, 2011 at 2:01 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Picked that up on FreeRepublic

34. #334
    On January 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Same with the chicanos unidos arizona bit.

35. #335
    On January 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I’ve never been to any memorial that involved bussing people in to cheer.

    VAPatriot–welcome to the world of the never-ending campaign of blame righty and take their money. Free rides to all who qualify! (for as long as it lasts)

36. #336
    On January 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm, spaceycakes said:

    stillontheroad said:
    Red State Skeptic said:
    And what does this line of blather have to do with Tucson, AZ?

    It’s very simple SOTR. RSS is simply angry that Hussein didn’t get a chance to use his weapons on Israel.

37. #337
    On January 18th, 2011 at 10:56 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Via White House Insider:

    1) Obama Celebrates Shortly After Delivering Tucson Memorial Speech

    Here is something that you will never hear from the media but that some witnessed shortly after the memorial service had finished. Behind the staging area, Obama gave Michelle a “high five” and shared a laugh with her. So within minutes of seeing what is Obama’s finest moment as president it is followed by one of his worst. It is this easy and always there contradiction in the president that concerns me very very much. He was just thrilled at his performance. That was priority #1 for him. It always is. The motivation for his speech was not to heal following the tragedy, but to further appeal to the public and get their approval of him… I cannot reconcile with that kind of behavior in a leader. There really is something missing in him. Some basic element of humanity. Or humility??? Even by DC political standards the human element in Obama seems to be utterly absent.

    2) “The birther stuff”

    Something is out there but nobody wants to touch it. The topic is coming up amongst us more than it ever has. I’m talking people who mocked it, dismissed it before, who are now quietly saying something is stirring out there on this subject and it’s got the WH very concerned. Big time worried. There are discussion in the WH about the issue. And I think some of the Republican leadership has a whiff of it but all indications appear to be they want nothing to do with it. It’s being buried deep. For now.