Kill the Obamacare 1099 tax mandate

Yes, I said “kill it.”
Yes, it’s a “job-killer.”
And yes, thank goodness, the Republicans are not retreating.
Via The Hill:
Republicans signaled Wednesday that repealing a controversial tax provision in the healthcare law is one of their most pressing priorities.
House Republicans have re-numbered the bill repealing the tax requirement as H.R. 4, signaling it will be one of their first pieces of business.
The bill would repeal language requiring companies, starting in 2012, to report all goods and services transactions valued over $600 to the IRS. Republicans and Democrats, and even the White House, have since said they support repealing this language, which would raise $19 billion over ten years and was included to help pay for the healthcare law.
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-Calif.) had already introduced a so-called 1099 repeal bill, which was numbered H.R. 144. By bumping up that bill to H.R. 4, Republicans are making it clear that they will move this bill on an expedited basis. Traditionally, the House majority controls the first ten bills in Congress (H.R. 1 through H.R. 10), and usually reserves those numbers for high-priority items.
The bill has 12 Democrat co-sponsors and wide support across party lines. It is scheduled to be taken up after the full Obamacare repeal bill, H.R. 2.
Support bipartisanship: Repeal this Obamacare burden.
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Well, it is a tiny baby step! I just want the whole bhocare bill killed(that word again!).
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Er, what happened to the Sandra Bernhard thread?
So the democrats were for it before they were against it? Not much changes, does it? Glad to see this bi-partisan magic is working, however I remain skeptical and worried..
Being co-sponsored by 12 democrats is like Custer being co-sponsored by 12 indians. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Typical Dem: Gee, if I had known that was in the bill, I would never had voted for it! That G.W. Bush is a sneaky bastage!
That’s some good “Blood Libel” language you got going there. You go girl! F ‘em if they can’t take a metaphor!
Wondering that myself. I was just about to submit a comment and then poof!! Gone.
Targeted, Eradicated, poor gasoline on it and flame it, bury it and pour salt on it. Kill it dead. Dead. DEAD! DEAD!!!
Was that emphatic enough about how I feel?
Let’s also push the Republicans to support the legislation introduced that: addresses the anchor baby issue (birthright citizenship/14th Amendment) and mandates E-Verify for every employer in the US. Then, and only then, we will start to have a coherent immigration policy that people throughout the world will respect and abide by.
Also, on that same subject, what do you think Tom Donohue and the US CoC (Chamber of Commerce) are up to these days? Yes, they are STILL plugging for amnesty for illegals in the US. Some people just don’t get it.
Forget it Tom, the new group in the US House has made it clear: they plan on enacting REAL enforcement, get with the program or get pushed aside. It’s time to show the ‘US’ part in your organization’s name.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/chamber-commerce-supports-amnesty-illega
hawkeye54#6,
Nice to see you came out of your shell on how you feel. Funny is was!
L
Absolutely. I see some states aren’t waiting for the Congress to act and are pushing for legislation within the states regarding the birthright citizenship issue.
I still believe the 14th Amendment has been deliberately misapplied to children of illegals.
First off, you shouldn’t mince your words; just come out and say what you really mean.
Second, that “blood libel” statement you made is likely to get the democrats in quite a lather. You know, free speech for socialists but not for intelligent people.
Kill the Bill sounds great and maybe we can really do it after the 2012 vote–IF the Republicans can keep their heads on straight. With Dingy Harry and his co-conspirators in the Senate not much useful will really happen.
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Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
should be a convenience store,
NOT a government agency.
Yes it has, hawkeye54.
Read this issue of Imprimus from Hillsdale College. You will see that the intent of the legislators that wrote the 14th amendment was to not grant citizenship to children of illegal aliens.
Couple that with this from the case of Steward vs Kahn, 78 US 504: “The intent of the legislators constitutes the law.” The Supreme Court was clear on that.
The 14th amendment does not grant citizenship to children of illegal aliens born in this country.
How would I know if I get them in a lather. Most are already foaming at the mouth.
From The Gipper…
For some reason, I thought this part of the bill had already been killed. I was sure I heard someone say, “At least they took that dumb thing out!” What…did they sneak it back in? Anyway, this small part of the bill, while horrendous, is like a drop in the ocean of unintended consequences! Kill the whole dang thing! Put a target on it, stab it, cut it into tiny pieces, then incinerate it!! Too violent for you? Will this get through the censors? We’ll see.
Michelle; you racist, bigot, homophobe, and yes EVEN A CONSERVATIVE, how dare you use a metaphore to describe seeking the demise of a political bill. Chris will send the demented minions of MSNBC after you, and Sgt Schultz will call out the whacko left disc jockeys to kill you and your devil spawn as well as burn down your house so as to rid the world of your EVIL! Keep up the great work!.
No nukes Hawkeye?
Holdin that in reserve to use against the GOP if they fail to destroy the beast. They. All. Will. Go. Together.
Nukes = Operation GOP armageddon
Good plan Hawkeye.
OBTW -7 degrees this morning in Hawkeye Country!
Kill the bill and incite some relief.
Alas, I suffer here in downtown Los Angeles with an expected high of 73 today.
Call my crazy, but I’d still rather be in Hawkeye Country
Sorry, I hadn’t read all the comments before I said basically the same thing as Hawkeye!
LOL! Great minds and all that!
It would be nice to find out who that person was that put in the 1099 rule. That way we can keep an eye out for any future $hit coming from a person that probably should be remove from the gene pool.
Exactly the kinds of adjectives that kill people.
Repeal???? I’ll believe it when I see it. Talk is cheap, so the GOP had jolly well better deliver. The country still has a financial crisis going on and the time is running out to fix things before there is more pain. All I see is the mambie-pambie GOP leaders wavering. Grow a spine or resign and let a better person get the job done.
We should follow IOWA’s lead in impeaching their state justices. America has many U.S. Federal and Supreme Court Justices who require impeachment in 2012. Enough of these liberal justices creating their own laws and…
-Anchor babies
-Abortion
-Eminent domain
-Separation of Church and State
-Income tax
P_Phil, any better?
Somebody help me out here. This requirement to report goods and services by 1099, for stuff valued over $600, would that apply to medical care? For example, if my medical coverage paid for $100,000 of intensive care treatment at the hospital, would I get a 1099 for an additional $100K of income in that year, and be expected to pay tax on it? Or am I missing the boat?
Uh oh! This does not bode well:
and
Make of this what you will. I for one am preparing for Operation GOP armageddon to be coming all too soon.
I still want Repeal of Obummercare to be a line on the Replace legislation, which should include tort reform and allowing sale across state lines. Get the lawyers out, and open the free market.
Let’s get to the root of the problem and remove the usurper from the office he is ineligible to serve in.
I’ve been saying the GOP needed to go the way of the Whigs since they nominated Juan McAmnesty to be the 2008 nominee.
They are going to nominate another mnesty supporter for 2012, watch and see.
Maybe Doug’s post was too inflamatory. I liked his description of SB as like Mr. Yuk on a Preparation H tube, though! Spot on!
hawkeye54#32,
I saw that earlier. Sure makes one wonder about what is really going on by the r’s? I’m beginning to not get a warm and fuzzy feeling. I just pray the new elected don’t cave to the good ole boys, but stand up for what they told us they would do if we voted for them.
L
Errah, I thought it said “Together We Theives” Need to get my glasses checked.
My guess for now is any of these:
Gingrich
Huckabee
Pawlenty
Romney
No one else is gonna get any lovin from the GOP establishment.
I disagree. We’ve made great progress in reclaiming the party for Conservatives. More work to be done though, to be sure. Backing a 3rd party is a sure loser.
Not if we stay engaged. We can’t let the Media and non-party saboteurs pick our nominees!
Can’t the BLM ever get anything right.
The 1099 provision would not require reporting of “all goods and services transactions valued over $600 to the IRS”
That’s already required of businesses.
The new requirement would require that the annual accumulation of smaller transactions be added up and submitted to the IRS. This is completely different from one time transactions of $600, and far far more onerous.
And since when does the media report revenue projections as absolute facts like this: “…which would raise $19 billion over ten years and was included to help pay for the healthcare law.” Normally they would identify that as an estimate or projection, not a fact.
I think I know why they are doing it. Once this and other things get changed in Obamacare, and the law inevitably costs much more and raises far less revenue than “expected”, the BLM can then turn around and blame the Republican tweaks, such as removing this 1099 provision.
Actually, if you stare at the middle of it for one minute, in OpArt fashion, it becomes a 3-D Image of a great black cube labeled: “Together We Are Borg”
Dexter,
McAmnesty was dead in the water and broke in June 2007, by March he had the nomination sewed up. It was not accidental nor just good fortune on his part. The nominating process was rigged for that result. Rudy and Fred were in there as blockers, left and right, for McCain. The calender of primaries was set up to make sure most conservatives would not even get to vote before it was over.
Errah, I thought it said “Together We
TheivesThieves” Need to get my glasses checked. I before E thingy, thanks public screwl edjumakation!The party wants an amnesty candidate, the voters don’t, but won’t get a choice.
The 1099s in Obamacare are all about giving the Obamacare bureaucracy the ability to create and operate a health care VAT tax without having to go thru Congress.
Without the 1099s in Obamacare, the Obamacrats working in the Obamacare bureaucracy would not have sufficient information to create a regulation that puts a ‘fee’ on every business transaction over $600 to keep Obamacare solvent — aka a healthcare VAT.
The Obamacrats may argue that Congress knew what it was doing when it added the 1099s in the bill, because it allows Obamacare to pay for itself. So expect some resistance to eliminating it by the left.
O/T but wow for fellow Texans. Dear kay isn’t running in 2012! How about Williams for our choice? Great man, IMO.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011411dntexhutchison.ae8333f3.html
L
Texas gets a break, let’s hope they don’t fall for another open borders RINO.
Hawkeye #54 said:
I wonder when the Progressive folks at Google will outlaw searches for (wait for it) weed killers?
Quick – while you still can!!
We have immigration laws now, we need them followed and upheld.
We eill not get enforcement until we elect a President who will do so.
This one won’t, the last one didn’t. Heck, Clinton’s inadequate enforcement made W’s look rigorous.
We eill not get enforcement until we elect a President who will do so.
This one won’t, the last one didn’t. Heck, Clinton’s inadequate enforcement made W’s look rigorous.
Sorry for the double post, and eill should be will
Put an addendum onto the killer bill”
“Any waivers to groups or individuals granted by DHS will apply to all citizens.”
After all, healthcare is a “right” and therefore should all have equal rights.
Most of the Health Care bill does not take effect until 2014. So, in the name of fostering bipartisanship, I propose using a different phrase than “kill the bill”. Use “abort the bill” instead. What Democrat could complain about the use of that word?
Abort Obamacare while it’s still gestating in the womb of the Nanny State. Abort the bill before it’s glutinous and ever enlarging mother demands that it now must tax for two. And force Democrats to explain to their idiot base, who never read bills, why they voted against an abortion bill.
Make a dandy bumpersticker.
Really would confuse the left, being pro-choice and all….
Actually you missed one BIG point with the new law.
Businesses do not have to report payments made to corporations (other than lawyer corporations) right now. The law changes that to every entity.
Go to the Apple Store and buy a computer for work. You’ll need to get a W-9 before doing so. (Granted, the IRS is thinking of a credit card exemption from the law change)
On a side note, the Paypal 1099-K is now in effect.
This is not only a job killer but a small business killer. Many small businesses buy but a few thousand dollars worth of supplies and equipment every year. The idea of having to somehow figure out what to do is horrific. I believe the only reason for this is to take government control down another step into minutia.