Civility Watch: Nazis and crosshairs and killers, oh my; Update: Democrat Rep. Cohen doubles down on Nazi/KKK smears
For those of you visiting here for the first time and looking for the pieces I mentioned on Hannity tonight, click The progressive “climate of hate:” An illustrated primer, 2000-2010 and Blame Righty: A condensed history.
Yesterday, Doug Powers pointed you to the Boone County, MO Democrats’ gun-themed flyer that the civility police seem to have missed.
The hits (oops, did I say that?) keep on coming.
I tweeted the D.C. Big Labor thugs’ poster targeting a private developer’s residence over a Wal-Mart project yesterday, via RedState.
More from Townhall.com’s Guy Benson and The Blaze.
Next up: When is it hate speech to compare politicians to Nazis? Only when the accusers are Tea Party activists or Republicans. When it’s Democrats, just move along. Nothing to see or hear:
In an extraordinary outburst on the House floor, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) invoked the Holocaust to attack Republicans on health care and compared rhetoric on the issue to the work of infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
“They say it’s a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels,” Cohen said. “You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That’s the same kind of thing. And Congressman Cohen didn’t stop there.
“The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it–believed it and you have the Holocaust. We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care. Politifact said the biggest lie of 2010 was a government takeover of health care because there is no government takeover,” Cohen said.
PolitiFact, of course, is a PolitiFarce — liberal activists masquerading as neutral journalists. As Karl at Hot Air put it so well in response to the group’s declaration that the federal takeover of health care was a “lie:”
“PolitiFact exists largely as an attempt to del[e]gitimize certain political opinions.”
Speaking of such attempts, here’s Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee practicing her own brand of New Tone — accusing Obamacare repeal proponents of “killing Americans:”
Repealing healthcare reform would result in “killing Americans,” one Democratic lawmaker suggested Tuesday night.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), in a speech on the House floor about the rhetoric surrounding Republicans’ bill to undo the new reform law, said repeal would result in more deaths in the U.S.
“Frankly, I would just say to you, this is about saving lives. Jobs are very important; we created jobs,” Jackson Lee said. “But even the title of their legislation, H.R. 2, ‘job-killing’ — this is killing Americans if we take this away, if we repeal this bill.”
So we’re fascists and murderers for opposing coercive, costly health care mandates which states, unions, corporations, and insurers have been stampeding to escape in droves?
And the Beltway blowhards think State of the Union musical chairs is going to make things better?
Now you know why I said it on November 3: Take your olive branch and shove it, Democrats.
Refresher:
Take Your Olive Branch and Shove It, Democrats
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010On the eve of a historic midterm election upheaval, President Barack Obama tried to walk back his gratuitous slap at Americans who oppose his radical progressive agenda. “I probably should have used the word ‘opponents’ instead of ‘enemies’ to describe political adversaries,” Obama admitted Monday. “Probably”?
Here is an ironclad certainty: It’s too little too late for the antagonist-in-chief to paper over two years of relentless Democratic incivility and hate toward his domestic “enemies.” Voters have spoken: They’ve had enough. Enough of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner’s rhetorical abuse. Enough of his feints at bipartisanship. Whatever the final tally, this week’s turnover in Congress is a GOP mandate for legislative pugilism, not peace. Voters have had enough of big government meddlers “getting things done.” They are sending fresh blood to the nation’s Capitol to get things undone.
Just two short years ago, Obama campaigned as the transcendent unifier. “Young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled, Americans have sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of red states and blue states,” he proclaimed. “We have been and always will be the United States of America.”
It’s been an Us vs. Them freefall ever since.
“We don’t mind the Republicans joining us,” Obama taunted a few weeks ago. “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”
“They’re counting on young people staying home and union members staying home and black folks staying home,” the fear-mongering agent of hope and change jeered on the campaign trail last month.
“You would think they’d be saying thank you,” he sneered last April, when millions turned out for the nationwide Tax Day tea party protests.
“I want them just to get out of the way” and “don’t do a lot of talking,” he scoffed in response to prescient critics of the federal trillion-dollar stimulus boondoggle.
In addition to labeling GOP opponents of his open-borders policies “enemies” who needed to be “punished” by Latino voters, Obama accused them — that is, us — of lacking patriotism. “Those aren’t the kinds of folks who represent our core American values,” he told viewers of the Spanish-language network Univision.
Democratic leaders have taken their cue from Team Obama’s persistent politics of polarization.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer called vocal citizens who protested the federal health care takeover bill during the town hall revolts of 2009 “un-American,” too. Remember? “These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American,” Pelosi and Hoyer blasted in an op-ed piece for USA Today last summer. “Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.”
This from the woman who called for a vengeful government investigation of grassroots opponents of the Ground Zero mosque.
Obama’s pal Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida, whom the president hailed as an “outstanding” member of Congress, accused Republicans of wanting elderly people to “die quickly” and of presiding over a “holocaust in America.” Vice President Joe Biden hailed Grayson as a “guy who doesn’t back away from a fight, and doesn’t back down from what he believes in” and told him at a fundraiser: “We owe you one, buddy.” No mention of Grayson’s smear of a female Federal Reserve adviser as a “K Street whore.”
In California, entrenched incumbent jerk Pete Stark derided immigration enforcement activists at a town hall by asking: “Who are you going to kill today?” To an elderly constituent who opposed the health care bill, Stark retorted: “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”
As voters who have been maligned by the ruling majority as stupid, unwashed, racist, selfish and violent headed to the polls Tuesday, Democrats released “talking points” attacking Republican leaders who “are not willing to compromise.” But “no compromise” is exactly the message that un-American Americans delivered to Washington this campaign season:
No more compromising deals behind closed doors.
No more compromising bailouts in times of manufactured crisis.
No more compromising conservative principles for D.C. party elites.
No more compromising the American economy for left-wing special interests.
No more compromising transparency and ethics for bureaucratic self-preservation.
Let us be clear, in case it hasn’t fully sunk into the minds of Obama and the trash-talking Democrats yet: You can take your faux olive branch and shove it.
Thank you.
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Final thought: Like I always say, if they haven’t called you Nazi yet, you ain’t doing your job.
Photo credit: Zombie, 2004
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Update: Democrat Rep. Cohen is doubling down and defending his GOP/Nazi smear: “I meant what I said.”
Last year, he compared the Tea Party to the KKK.
Tonight on CNN, he again defended those smears.
Over to you, President Obama…
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The perfect virtuous circle. The fewer of them there are, the shriller they get and the shriller they get, the fewer of them there are.
Actually, I really want that Wal-Mart on Georgia Ave.
Calm down. I hate to bust your persecution bubble, but other than that sheriff, I don’t know who is seriously saying that the right is to blame for the Tucson shooting. The worst anyone in the mainstream discourse has said is that in the wake of a reminder of our country’s extremely violent political history, using firearms metaphors and suggesting “second amendment remedies” is just inappropriate.
They way I take this double standard is that the liberals are saying it is ok for them to use these symbols and rhetoric because it will not cause those it angers (those on the right) to commit acts of violence, but it is not ok for Conservatives to use the same symbols and langauge becasue it could ause the people it angers (those on the left)to commit such acts…..
RSS…I really hope you are joking, becuase it is getting really old debunkng your bogus claims over and over again…
Liberalism is a mental disorder. Arguing with crazy people will make you crazy, they have no logic, facts are meaningless and don’t matter if they don’t support their argument.
People posted the home address of the developer so they could have a protest, seemingly without any regard to the harassment of the family members, or the fact that the guy seems to be doing business legitimately.
Can he in turn post the addresses of the founders of this organization? Then all of the people who would be working on and supplying this project could protest outside their homes?
Why don’t these organizers want people to work?
Please indulge me then. Show me one piece from a mainstream media outlet or politician that specifically stated that Jared Loughner shot Gabrielle Giffords because he was a devotee of Sarah Palin or anyone else on the right. If what I’m saying is crazy, then it will be very easy for you to produce.
In liberal minds, the group posting the address of the developer is just trying to organize a protest. The posting of the groups home addresses would be deemed a threat.
I’m enjoying watching all this violent rhetoric debate ricochete back on the progressives.
If you look at Sarah Palin’s favorability ratings in the last couple of weeks, her knee-jerk victim routine is richocheting on her.
From the Buzzworthy link, Shelia Lee (You Texans should be ashamed): Jackson Lee said repealing the law by passing Republicans’ H.R. 2 violates both the Fifth Amendment’s right to due process and the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection clause.
“The Fifth Amendment speaks specifically to denying someone their life and liberty without due process,” she said in a speech on the House floor moments ago. “That is what H.R. 2 does and I rise in opposition to it. And I rise in opposition because it is important that we preserve lives and we recognize that 40 million-plus are uninsured.
She continued, “Can you tell me what’s more unconstitutional than taking away from the people of America their Fifth Amendment rights, their Fourteenth Amendment rights, and the right to equal protection under the law?”
Jackson Lee mentioned the names of several people who she said would be helped by the national health care law, including a schizophrenic, a dialysis patient, and somebody whose mother cannot otherwise get dental care. “I know they would question why we are taking away their rights,” she said.
Just a thought: if we quit using terms such as “crosshairs” and “target” then will all the violence from the Left go away? Wow. Power of the word…
As she laughs all the way to the bank to cash another paycheck.
She’s the Oprah Winfrey of conservatives, the Mario Savio of the Tea Party Movement.
Well on her way to making $100 million, thanks to Sarahcuda Derangement Syndrome.
I wish I could be so unpopular.
Just a reminder, throughout the 20th century and now into the 21st century it has and will continue to be the Liberals who draw first blood or pull the trigger first, then blame the other side. Violence comes first in their minds before negotiations. I hope CNN doesn’t read this or I’ll be in the cross-hairs.
Red State Septic said
“Show me one piece from a mainstream media outlet or politician that specifically stated that Jared Loughner shot Gabrielle Giffords because he was a devotee of Sarah Palin or anyone else on the right. If what I’m saying is crazy, then it will be very easy for you to produce.
Red State Septic….
there you go again…
you are a dishonest piece of toilet sausage and you know damn well that the MSM (not to mention every liberal within cat-swinging distance) was implying or outright saying that Sarah Palin now has blood on her hands…
Liar.
oh wait.
RSS you are a complete a$$. Civil enough?
She is something I must say. Unfortunatly her district is so well gerrymandered she received something like 88% of the vote in a contested race. She is free to keep us entertained for a long time but as long as she’s in the minority there is no harm. I’m in the district next to hers and the Honorable (ahem) Al Green TX D-9 does about the same but at least he keeps to himself.
RSS cant even keep his talking points straight. In this same thread he claims that no one is blaming Palin and then complains that Palin is using the blaming of her to further her political career….
Really?
Happyscrapper: If you’re reading, this is the kind of iron skillet diplomacy we need around here.
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is this thing on?
Is there anybody out there?
Interestingly, I have reached the conclusion that The Department of Homeland Security is a threat to normal citizens (especially the flying public), with a growing potential for violence themselves.
That made me laugh out loud.
We can only defeat them (can I still say that)?
The thing is we can thank the left for the need to rewrite nearly every textbook in the country, after four decades of creeping collectivism Obama isn’t the end, if we don’t change education back to self sufficiency from entitlement and back from Karl Marx to America the home of brave and the free, we have worse than the last two years to look forward to.
If we could snap our fingers and new textbooks appeared on the school desks today and neo communists and they systematic betrayal were shown the gate it would one full generation to get America the beautiful most of the way back.
“knee-jerk victim”?
What IS IT with you people? She’s dragged into the story via the ever-ready-to-pounce lapdog media propagandists (Chris Matthews, anyone??) and then you BLAME HER for responding?
The insanity that the Left indulges in vis-a-vis Sarah Palin is apparently boundless. Next week, I swear they’ll be saying she’s really the anti-Christ.
re:
Or more likely in this thread. LOL
This isn’t about Walmart, as much as it is about Walmart not being a union house.
The last line of the flyer tells the whole story;
“No to low wages and paltry benefits at Wal-Mart.”
If the jobs aren’t union jobs, then the politicians supporting the union prefer to have NO JOBS.
This kind of talk needs to be centered in the reticle of political attention. There, politically correct language only someone with a dictionary can object to.
Not just the propagandists in the shallow end of the pool, that’s Nobel Prize winner Krugman I quoted in #19.
It really is insanity.
I was under the impression that Deepak Chopra already settled that matter a couple of years ago.
It’s true and I do feel quite bad about that. I have been sloughing off of late. My daughter is at college so I’m not being called racist (I criticized Obama when she was living at home). My wife hasn’t said I’m an anti-semite (I criticized the Mark Rich pardon by Clinton) for some years now. Perhaps because she’s still fuming about the Valerie Plame thing.
So here’s my request: Would someone on this site — no need to rush forward at once — please call me the vulgar term for a National Socialist. It really would make me feel better.
Speaking of lying about the health insurance and health care services takeover, Harry Reid committed a doozy today:
Read more on FOX
Ok then Harry, if the people deserve a vote, then let it come to the floor for a vote and stop obstructing what the people deserve! Geeeesh.
For all the whining we’ve heard from the right over the last couple weeks, no one can come up with a single example where Sarah Palin was actually blamed for inspiring Jared Loughner. Thank you all for proving my point.
There is a limit to which discourse should rise and we each recognize it when we see it (a paraphrase on the Supreme Court Justice that addressed pornography).
Yet, many of the terms being derided have been used for a fairly long time.
Good grief, since it is football play-off season, how about ‘blitz’ from ‘blitzgrieg’, or ‘throw a bomb’ from making an impact from far away. ‘Crushing’ an opponent and how is that as a visual? There is even the often used religious ‘Hail Mary’ from . . . do I even have to explain?
Simile, metaphor and borrowed language from other usages have worked thier way into every day usage where it may not have been expected.
Newspapers are referred to as ‘rags’. Televisions as ‘boob-tubes’.
I know it when I see and will comment when I do, until then ‘my panties will remain un-bunched’.
For crying out loud, don’t be such a poinyoin, there’s crap all over the place. All you got to do is look.
Plenty more like this.
A fellow Arizona Democrat, Rep. Raul Grijalva, said that the Palin “apparatus” shares responsibility for creating a climate of extremism. “Both Gabby and I were targeted in the apparatus in that cycle [saying] these people are ‘enemies,’” Grivjalva told Mother Jones’s David Corn.
Ha!! I’d say Boehner has the swing down pat!! Oh, would I love to take the skillet to that #itch!
My laugh for the day has to be when Shirley Jackson Lee was talking to Cavuto this afternoon. She was talking through her arse again, and he kept trying to get a rational statement out of her. Finally, she said that he just didn’t understand logical thinking! Cavuto just looked amused and went on from there. It was really funny. In fact, most of the rhetoric these days is really comical. The regressives are looking stupider every time they open their mouths! By Nov. 2012, there will be no one left who will even think them sane, let alone vote for one of them! Political theater I can really enjoy!
Nice try. Not only is what you cite not at all saying that Palin inspired Loughner, but it is undeniably true. When you back a candidate for Senate who supports “Second Amendment remedies” for her opponent, how is that not creating a climate of extremism? When your office is shot at with a pellet gun, as Giffords’ was last year, that’s clearly being targeted (if you will excuse my violent word choice). When Palin says … f it, you get the point.
For crying out loud, did you even read the Rep’s quote I highlighted in the link? Do you need a frickin map? He absolutely blames Palin.
Your inability to understand English is probably your only remarkable attribute.
By “remarkable” I mean in the sense of “the pus oozing from his scab was remarkable.”
He blames Palin for specifically inspiring Jared Loughner? No. He didn’t, and neither did anyone else.
Wait…don’t tell me you take exception to Nazi references in political discourse, MM.
Try googling “site:michellemalkin.com Obama Nazi” or any random combination of a prominent Democrat and any random combination of Nazi, Hitler, Brownshirt, etc… and then get back to me about your indignance over Cohen’s comment.
Geez, Michelle, this is getting stale. No one will be talking about this by Valentine’s Day, hell, maybe even Groundhog’s Day.
I was hoping to read a big triumphant post on Lieberman and Conrad today.
Or maybe something about Duncan Hunter’s efforts to slow down implementation of DADT.
Anything, anything at all but this continued tit-for-tat silliness about civility.
Anyone enjoying Rush on the Golf Channel besides me?
But, Michelle is on our team, Chappy. Big difference. Like you, we have chosen sides.
There’s a distinct difference between opinions on a blog and comparing the opposing party to Nazis on the floor of the House of Representatives.
Ah, the good old days of civility.
Mr. Adams meet Mr. Jefferson (circa 1800).
Politics is mean. Who cares?
What about the issues?
The huge hypocrisy of the left can not be denied except by the dishonest or mentally challenged. MM is pointing out the hypocrisy, not creating slanderous lies like the left have been. So defend the left at your own risk (by that, I mean “at the risk of being categorized as dishonest or mentally challenged”). It is quite unfortunate that I now have to qualify my statements so that the left can understand (maybe?).
What, exactly? Does the venue in which a statement is made make it more or less true?
The right has the right to defend itself when slandered. To ridicule one who exercises their God given right to defend oneself is to advocate for lawlessness and incivility.
I didn’t say she was creating slanderous lies. I said you could find them on her site.
Chap:
You chose the shoe. I did not direct any comment to you personally, nor did I see your comment referring to her site. But If you feel that lies are being posted on her site, then I beg you to reference the specific wording and a trusted reference where others can validate your claim.
Another meaningless “observation” from an opposite-worldview holder.
“As if” that poster would be concerned wheteher Palin’s or any other conservative’s “favorability rating” were tanking becuase his “routine”.
If that were actually the case, the opposite-worldview holder would be quiet, and would follow the advice: “If your opponent is in the process of destroying himself, do not interfere.”
Like I said, use google and find them yourself. Hint: anything that references i) Hitler, Goebels, brownshirts, Nazi etc… and ii) Obama, Pelosi,Reid,etc…is most likely a lie.
Apologies.
Chap:
I really shouldn’t need to respond to comment #62, but you claimed that one could find lies on Palin’s site (ref #59). After making such a claim and being challenged, the honest (and civil) response would be to produce evidence supporting your claim.
Just performing a search does not identify the dishonest statements or explain why you think they are slanderous. If you provide context, then honest debate can proceed (in a civil manner), with both sides providing an explanation of what each side considers truth and/or lies. Just referring to someone’s actions as being ‘like a Nazi’ does not automatically mean it is slanderous or a lie. It must be put into proper context.
Excellent advice
…later all.
Of course Fuller blamed Palin for Louchner’s actions. It is distinctly implied in Fuller’s quotation from Democracy NOW, and the only reasoning even remotely possible for his statement. Unless you think Fuller was saying Palin did it herself?
Skillet diplomacy is good, and I volunteer to back up with rolling pin when needed.
After seeing how many times Rep. Cohen said the words “lie” and “lies” in the TPM article, it would seem that he’s spending a bit too much extracurricular time with Sen. Franken.
Shuddup, you liar!
According to Cohen, Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare have become “popular” programs with the majority of Americans. So dependency is deemed popular now. He’s probably right to some degree, which is just great.
Okay, I’m lying. That mindset really sucks, and it needs to change.
Cohen continues to say that the tactics of the GOP are parallel to the tactics of Nazis, yet he insists that he’s not comparing the two. I’m sure he’s being honest with at least half of what he’s saying.
Cohen also insinuates the ridiculous but often repeated lie lie LIE that the GOP and the Tea Party are anti-government, which is one way the Left has been connecting the two groups to crazies like Jared Loughner as of late.
Note to liberals: we’re not anarchists. Smaller government is not anti-government. Our government right now is an obese giant, and its arteries are clogged. A heart attack is imminent if this country doesn’t trim its fat quickly. We’re not going to get healthy and trim as long as we sit on the couch injecting our veins with cookie dough. The Tea Party is that voice in America’s head telling it to get off its butt, start doing those pushups, and eat its vegetables.
Come on, America, let’s make the First Lady proud for the second time in her life. Let’s move!
RSS Wrote:
Sorry, but the media brought Palin into this themselves and she is just defending herself.
By your standard of logic, Bill Clinton should have kept his mouth shut when he was accused of having affairs with white house interns.
The only difference was that Clinton was guilty.
Here are your examples:
1) CNN http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/mainstream-media-blames-sarah-palin-conservatives-for-shooting-of-rep-giffords-despite-lack-of-evide.html
2) Southern Poverty Law Center blaming conservatives
http://www.truthistreason.net/splc-blames-radical-right-for-rep-giffords-shooting-not-mental-illness
3) Actually, Geraldo even said “some of shooting” is to blame on Sarah. Although I’m sure that Mr. Rivera would prefer another method of showing disapproval that also starts with S and has the same number of letters.
You’ll also want to check out this earlier post: http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/19/the-hate-speech-inquisition/
These are calls to limit the free speech of talk radio because of the shooting.
If that’s not blaming conservatives, I don’t know what is.
All venues are now Pakistan.
Cohen and Weiner are striving to take up the mantle from Alan Grayson as most ridiculous member of congess.
Unfortunately Cohen has a safe seat in his Memphis district. The Nazi’s have competition with Cohen’s constituents. Memphis has one of the highest crime rates in the country per the FBI Crime Statistics. You are who you represent.
These are not just words. They truly believe we are Nazis and we should be treated as such.
Did you even read your link? A talking head that no one’s ever heard of said people are saying… Twitter, etc., but that “we don’t know the motive.”
They’re still around? I’m sorry, I have all the respect in the world for the Southern Poverty Law Center. They take white power goons to court and kick their asses. But if they are part of the mainstream political discourse, then I am Kathleen Parker.
NEXT……
Typical fascists.
I propsoe we no longer refer to them as the Democrat PArty – we shouldn’t even let them refer to themselves as such, for they are anything but democratic or liberal, and have far more in common with the political philosophy of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Che, Chavez, et al.
Actually, I would love nothing more than to see Sarah Palin run for president, win her party’s nomination, go down in flames, and bring the entire Republican Party down with her. If she runs, I will absolutely vote for her in the primaries. I don’t think she has a shot even to win the nomination, but a Dem can dream. At the same time, she’s a bottom-feeding cretin who insults my intelligence, and there is a reason she is the most widely reviled political figure in the country.
No. I did not.
When someone continually slanders you, screams vicious lies about you, and you don’t respond, when someone accuses you of doing the exact thing that they, not you, are doing…if you don’t respond, the lie will be allowed to stand. Then, it will become the truth to most people. Is that what you want, Doug? Seriously? Are you saying that MM should just ignore all the vicious lies and pretend they aren’t happening? I don’t believe you can possibly mean that!
Yes!! Two Happy people with weapons! Cast iron skillet and rolling pin! You don’t need a background check to purchase them, and you never run out of bullets.
RSS…You disgust me. Sorry, but if you are on the side of the regressives, the people who are destroying my beloved country, then you are indeed my enemy. I will not be civil to you, creep. And by the way, there are a lot of marxists on your side of the aisle who want to trash the first amendment. If that happens, you won’t be able to spew your nonsense on blogs any more. You know, those old “parameters of free speech”. I will never understand how anyone can condone the kinds of things the regressives are doing. They hurt BOTH sides, not just Conservatives! Why don’t you get that??
I thought the point was that the Left is insistent that we are not use Nazi analogies in political discourse and yet when their side does it, all we get is, “But your side has done it!!” So?
How does that excuse your indulgence of it?
And yet again, this is another occasion of an elected representative spewing tihs nonsense on a chamber floor.
I remember a while back I got grief for saying that to compare Obama to Hitler wasn’t incorrect, out-of-hand. I trust the outrage applies here? Especially after all the nonsense last week about the supposedly “incendiary rhetoric” on the right being the cause of the Az shooting.
HS, there’s actually a question in your mind about that?
Well, just look at a lot of the major blogs on the Left–you can’t post contrary opinions on them as it is now. Intolerance is the order of the day. And yet these SAME Leftists don’t see the irony in the fact that they can spew their anti-Right points day in and day out on major Right-leaning websites. Many with impunity (such as Town hall).
Actually, Major, these opposite worldview-holding (a term inspired by the excellent books, “A Conflict of Visions”, and “The Vision of the Anointed”, by the always excellent Thomas Sowell) domestic enemies of ours may very likely see the irony, and may very likely be laughing out loud about it as they spew; just as our foreign – and some domestic – communist and muslim jihadi barbarian enemies of today and for the past 5-6 decades+ view(ed) restraint not as a gesture to be reciprocated, but rather as weakness to be exploited.
I agree that many (of the leadership) do see and note it and simply are using a tactic that they think will ultimately garner a win for them.
But with respect to RSS et al, on this blog, I really don’t think they see it.
I love Sowell’s stuff and his Vision of the Annointed came into my hands after I had been re-reading Francis Schaeffer. Then came Van Til.
WOW!!! That didn’t take long, did it??? GOP sitting with DEMS at SOTU??? I sure hope not!!!
Happyscrapper said:
I’m not suggesting that anyone pretend they are not happening.
I am saying that it is incredibly unimportant.
The continued litany of “he said this” and “she wrote that” could go on forever without any change. It doesn’t set the record straight, it just makes the record longer.
People say stupid things. Even supposedly responsible people say stupid things. One’s political persuasion–despite all the assertions in the comments that all the vitriol comes from the left–does not matter one bit. Anytime there are opposing viewpoints, there will be fools saying or repeating idiotic things. The back and forth will go one forever.
There are remedies for slander. My opinion is that this particular technique isn’t a very good one. But, hey, it’s her blog. She is providing bloody victuals for her core audience.
I’m just voicing my opinion about it. I refuse to get up in arms over what some idiot DJ says in Wisconsin or the inane rhetoric of a congressional representative. That’s all distraction and isn’t worth our time.
I also don’t believe that any of these lies would stand with conservatives whether Michelle posted about them or not. And Michelle’s responses will likely have zero effect on those predisposed to believe the original stupid statements.
Now, the moment someone starts talking about making laws that abridge speech, then I’ll get up in arms.
here’s more for you, Red State Anti-Semite:
Olbermann said that if Sarah Palin “does not repudiate her own part in amplifying violence and violent imagery in politics, she must be dismissed from politics.”
I still say these slanderous, hideous remarks need to be addressed and squashed as insane ramblings of an insane person. I remember so well how frustrated I was when Pres. Bush NEVER set the record straight about things that really hurt him, personally and politically. To this day, they are still deriding him for his “Mission Accomplished” sign, when we know he meant the current mission they were on at the time. A lie, left alone to fester, becomes a false truth that the regressives will use forever!!
happyscrapper, I agree with you that listening and reading these mean-spirited remarks is frustrating.
There is nothing wrong with setting the record straight about such falsities.
I just don’t understand how stating a litany of falsehoods made by one’s opponents sets the record straight about the original falsehood. I think this is what is happening in a series of posts since the original ridiculous indictment of Sarah.
Front page of the New York Times tomorrow: “Michelle urges followers to become Nazis”….
Perhaps I missed a MM post about this, but I do think we should say
to the Republicans (and 3 Democrats) who voted to pass the House bill to repeal Obamacare.
Support for Obamacare has always been purely partisan,
while OPPOSITION to Obamacare has been bipartisan.