Breaking: Mubarak resigns, Armed Forces Supreme Council ascends; Ahmadinejad exults, Biden self-deludes
Egyptian Vice President Suleiman just made the announcement.
A military council will now assume power.
A victory for democracy?
More to come…
Newsflash: Leon Panetta’s scanning cable tee-vee and Twitter trending topics for intel. Announcement on Mubarak’s resignation pending.
Via AP:
Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak resigned as president and handed control to the military on Friday, bowing down after a historic 18-day wave of pro-democracy demonstrations by hundreds of thousands.
A massive crowd in Cairo’s central Tahrir Square exploded into joy, waving Egyptian flags, and car horns and celebratory shots in the air were heard around the city of 18 million in joy after Vice President Omar Suleiman made the announcement on national TV just after nightfall.
“In these grave circumstances that the country is passing through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to leave his position as president of the republic,” a grim-looking Suleiman said. “He has mandated the Armed Forces Supreme Council to run the state. God is our protector and succor.”
White House just announced: Obama will be in front of a TV camera at 1:30pm ET before Robert Gibbs’ final press briefing to address Egypt.
CIA announces: Panetta will be watching.
/sarc
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Update 11:45am ET Gag alert.
This is from Politico’s Mike Allen on Twitter:
TOP DEM. OFFICIAL: “situation remains…delicate…but..this is a huge affirmation of the President’s leadership on the international stage”
More Democrat self-back-patting here.
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Meanwhile in Iran: Ahmadinejad calls for Mideast without Israel and US
Former Israeli ambassador Dan Gillerman: “This country cannot afford to fall into the hands of extremism.” Hopes military can maintain moderation. Rise of the Muslim Brotherhood “would be an existential threat” to Israel and the entire region. Voices concern over the prospect of mullahs in Iran, Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and MB in Egypt.
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A sober take from Ellis Goldberg at Foreign Affairs:
The Mubarak regime as it has existed for the last decade — an increasingly corrupt and incompetent government that has conferred immense economic advantages on a handful of politically connected businessmen — has been shattered. A more open political system and a responsive government that ensures its own safety by trimming back the power and privileges of the military could still emerge. And the army may step in as a transitional power and recognize that, as much as it might like to, it cannot return to complete control. The Egyptian military is far more professional and educated than it was in the 1950s, so many officers may recognize the benefits of a democracy. More likely, however, is the culmination of the slow-motion coup and the return of the somewhat austere military authoritarianism of decades past.
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Update 1:03pm Eastern – White House has delayed Obama’s statement.
Biden, on the other hand, dove head first into the pool of self-delusion:
Vice President Joe Biden said today is a “historic day for the people of Egypt” that will go down as a “pivotal moment” in history.
“This is a pivotal moment in history…not only in Middle East history,” Biden said.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said he will step aside, after 18 days of protests have rocked the United States’ ally in the Middle East. Mubarak has been in power for nearly 30 years.
Biden, speaking about an hour before President Obama addresses the nation, said he was pleased that the United States has largely spoken with “one voice” about the need for a peaceful and orderly transition in Egypt.
“This unity has been important and it will be even more important in these delicate and fateful days ahead,” he said.
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At this point it was inevitable.
So who takes over now? The protesters wanted him out but I never heard who they wanted in his place.
Will he become a new “czar” in the Obama administration?
Resigning for real this time, eh?
Brett Favre thinks he’s a wimp.
Remember, the Muslim Brotherhood is a “largely secular” organization…
… and Barack Hussein Obama is “largely Christian”.
Suleiman is in charge backed by the army. Keep in mind that Mubarak DID change the constitution setting the stage for a different kind of government. Suleiman’s problem is to have a constitutional election in September. Elbaradei and the other Islamists want elections NOW.
So the Egyptians have a chance for an orderly transition to constitutional democracy (for what it is) if they resist the call to mob rule by the Islamists.
Not that I have any insights on Egypt but it seems to me that since the army is very popular, they are the key but if they can’t protect Suleiman until September, who will they turn to?
A “revolution” that devolves into mob rule is jut another failed “revolution”.
I assume VP Suleiman, not that that will satisfy the protesters. But it will embolden them. What a dicey situation.
Let’s not forget that the “opposition” made an assassination attempt on Suleiman last week and killed a couple of his security people. He may not survive long enough to affect an orderly and lawful transition. It is all so precarious.
As I said in a previous thread — Just what our constitutionally ineligible muslim “president” wanted.
This is still a fluid situation. Who will lead them? Will the military step in and lead? What does that mean exactly? I can’t figure out how a country can be led by a military. Sounds a bit scary to me. Also, does Mubarak get to keep the BILLIONS that he has stolen from his people (and the U.S.?) If so, why?
I know the Egyptian people want freedom. Who doesn’t??? I just pray they don’t get worse than what they already have suffered.
Can the Army hold? The Army was the guarantee of secularism in Turkey but the islamist managed to replace most of the senior Army officers with like minded islamist. Did the people in the street replace one thug with another?
This does not bode well. If we get an Iranian style mullahotrocracy in Egypt with control over the Suez Canal and pipeline all the world has a problem.
Jimmah Carter and HeWhoWonOne are a pair to draw to I guess.
I’ll believe it when I see Mubarak actually go, and his successor come to the fore.
Remember, there’s still plenty of potential for him to be replaced with someone just as f’d up.
The real question is whether the Impostor-in-Chief will offer American assistance provided by freedom-loving Americans willing to donate their services.
Given his (lack of) experience with freedom, get ready for more foolishness from Egypt.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Unfortunately, Islam and democracy are not compatible!!! They are diametrically opposite. There are Christians in Egypt, but not many and they are not treated equally. I fear this will end up like Iran.
You’re kidding, right?
Not gonna happen….
DNI Clapper: “Gamal Abdel Nasser resigned?”
Oh, and Obama…WTF. Nice handling and where did you get your “intelligence” people? Oh yeah, you appointed them. Geez, can someone please send this doofus back to his Chicago playground and get us some grownups in office??
I have a feeling that this is not going to end well. I pray for Israel and the U.S.. The iran worm is already making noise(he does daily) about getting rid of all Jews and American’s. Can you imagine that bho will actually take credit for this?
God please be with us against those who hate us.
L
One of the understatements of the past several centuries, at least.
If?
To paraphrase the saying, Mubarak was likely an SOB; but, he was closer to our SOB than what will likely follow.
One more comment…Islam is like a tapeworm, once it is in there, very hard to detect until it is almost too late. They want the whole world and are making great inroads to that end. How do we stop this cancer??? We can certainly do something in THIS country, by electing leaders willing to stop them from coming in…illegally AND legally. We have enough of them here already who want to kill us. First step…get Obama out of there, and his corruptocrat czars, the regressives in Congress, and the RINO’S!
The army can make it happen but not if the media insists on equating this to the Berlin wall coming down. The East Germans were going to be absorbed into an established democracy. In Egypt, all we’ve seen so far is the storming of the Bastille.
I expect lots of violence as the mobs turn to calling for getting rid of the entire government followed by calls for “justice” (public executions?). I am expecting that there will be calls for a “temporary” ruling coalition (Jacobin committee?) preparing for an election that will never happen.
I can’t wait to see the look on Clapper’s face after Diane Sawyer tells him about this next week!
Nothing is different for Egypt now, nor is it different for America.
This is an internal to Egypt issue. Our media have nothing to add or report. They became the news.
Obama shouldn’t have made a statement at all. Why would Americans care what Egypt thinks about our internal affairs? What if they ‘demanded’ a president of ours resign.
People of the world used to care because of our military and nukes. Now America is just words. . . pointless words – unless they come with aide.
This is none of America’s business. It won’t affect us either.
Michelle –
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CNN announces: Panetta will be watching.
The two words “islam” and “democracy” arguably look silly and inappropriate together in the same sentence, paragraph, or on the same page.
As far as I know, they are roughly 10% of the population, or ~?8million.
Another understatement on steroids!
?Fear?
I wish that that were as bad as we have to regard what’s going on there.
My gut tells me that, unless the Egyptian military kills a lot, an awful lot, of jihadi muslim brotherhood barbarian savages – which I do not believe is too likely; the strangling, destruction, and erasing of the Christians’ “community” in Egypt will dramatically accelerate.
He knows – see #15…
Hooray! That bad ol’Hosni Mubarak is out, and the nice, friendly, so-fuzzy-I-could-die ARMY is in control! How cool is THAT?
Anybody know what they call it when the military is running things? That’s “democracy,” right?
Cool. I predict a democratic utopia, with Barbra Streisand as the leader, and Arianna Huffington as VP.
AWESOME!
Did Clapper say that, too?
I’d be willing to bet that before this episode 95% of Americans didn’t know who Mubarak was.
Egypt still has 30% unemployment with or without Mubarak.
I really don’t understand why we think this is important to America.
DNI Clapper: “Where’s the USS Yorktown? How many Corsairs does she have? Dammit man, if we don’t hurry, Churchill will try and seize Memphis, though God knows they have a terrible football team.”
Curious as to why you think, then, that so many of the signs the crowd is holding are in English.
Don’t forget, the Muslim Brotherhood did not just have a problem with Mubarak, they also worried about the military. This move by Mubarak to put the military in charge will really tick off the Muslim Brotherhood. The only question is what will they do about it?
Glad the crisis is over. I can’t wait to go to Egypt on vacation now, or even buy a timeshare.
Because your supply of whale oil is running out?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That’s some funny stuff, there. So standing around like an idiot not knowing what to do or say is “leadership on the international stage.” What a clod.
They were right about “fumbles yesterday.” Just everything went along without him. Ignore the fool and press on…
1) Suez Canal and it’s pipeline
2) One really big army equipped with American arms
We potentially have two islamist states on the choke points of the world’s oil.
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Let your sidearm be like American Express:
Don’t Leave home without it.
Unless you are from Massachusetts or Illinois (and all too many others)
then you just die in place waiting for help. But the police will call for a body bag 30 or 40 minutes later.
The only thing I know is, whatever happens, it’s Egypt’s, and their peoples business, after all, they too, are a sovereign Country.
While you’re at it, AZ, perhaps that poater also needs to be told that, unless it is lighter than air, something that one is holding will fall down if one lets go of it….
er, …poster, rather….
Its pretty interesting, the American liberals think its great when Egyptians protest, light fires burn buildings, they even get a pass for the violence, all to take down an authoritarian government, killing their economy, causing massive unemployment, bullying their own citizens, one party rule, that’s all great, but let a calm, peaceful Tea Party, protest runaway spending, authoritarian one party rule, forcing unwanted government programs down our throats, creating massive unemployment, ignoring the consent of the governed, and they’re the worst kind of racist scum the earth has ever known.
I so very much hope that Egypt can make the transition to democracy without being forced to take that left turn into another authoritarian tyranny that history has proven to be so devastating.
There’s no set in stone force that creates that scenario just the opposite but the right good people have get involved and that list doesn’t include the progressive path to oppression not even a little bit.
The temptation to co-opt an already oppressed people with the lefts automatic identity politics is much to great. We’ve seen that movie.
DNI Clapper: “Leon – what’s happening man?”
Panetta: “Woodchucks really chuck wood! Oh dammit, that’s a commercial, I’ll get back to you!”
Brilliant comment. /sarc
I heard the same comments about Iran in 1979. And the people who took power have killed how many Americans since then and are funding and supporting how many terrorists groups?
Just remember if Eqypt turns into Iran II the populations of their two countries is greater than all of the other countries in the MidEast combined.
Now give them the bomb and control of the Suez Canal.
Oh ya, let’s just sit back and let whatever happens, happen and let our CIA Chief with a budget of hundreds of billions get his intelligence from watching the news. Obama is making Carter look brilliant.
A 90% muslim country?
Not gonna happen….
Thank you.
You saved me the trouble.
Come on people! We can do this! Egypt has shown us the way!
Until the muslim brotherhood takes over, closes the Suez Canal and attacks Israel. Then whose business will it be?
Any bets on how long it will be before the U.S. Embassy in Cairo is over run by “Students”?
This is NOT going to end well.
Dalton: Be nice, until it’s time to not be nice.
I guess the Saudi king called Mubarak and told him to quit humiliating Obama.
The demonstrators wanted change and they got it. It comes with a fixed bayonet and a full magazine.
Be careful what you ask for…….
So, uh, how are we supposed to know when that is?
Clapper: Wait a minute. Where’s Sadat?
The president steps down and the military takes over…………
Could that happen here?
Now that you got what you asked for Mr. Obama…I assume a Christian will be allowed to run for president now?
We promote the ouster of a leader which has kept the peace in a very violent area for 30 years, and steadily brought the standard of living up in Egypt. At the same time we ignore the people in the streets in Tehran when the government is shooting the leaders in the head with sniper rifles. Ergo, we still have Achmajinedad and his thugs starving his people to build Atomic weapons, but Mubarek has given way to the muslim brotherhood.
Probably not.
Admiral Mullen, Chairman JCS is a milquetoast.
He’s more interested in integrating gays into the military, and decommissioning our nukes.
He’s not that current.
So, is Saudi Arabia next?
It’s almost to the point that it would be a fair fight… if they still had the likes of Moshe Dyan, et al.
I guess most folks think it is our business. Where in the Constitution do you find this authority?
Achmajinedad and his thugs are bad
Murbarack was an ally but to his people a bad guy.
Venezuela and Bolivia are ruled by tyrants as is much of the world.
But what can we really do about it? We have to stop allying with bad guys–when it goes south WE take the beating.
In 1956 Eisenhower meddled in the Suez war in favor of Nasser against Israel, France and Britain. That didn’t win us any friends in the Arab street-indeed they were shocked we would turn on our allies. Nasser was firmly in the Soviet camp. Reagan’s attempt to stabilize Lebanon ended badly.
A Muslim Brotherhood founder visited the US in the forties and declared us a decadent society. The crap that they hate us because of Israel is just that-crap.
Now we prop us the House of Saud while they fund Madrassahs right here. Mohammadism is the enemy.
First it was David Cameron, “Multi-culturalism has failed
Then came Sarkozy “Multi-culturalism has failed
Now the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt chimes in….
“We agree Multi-Cultralism has failed, death to all infidels”
Thanks Barry
And cost their sock puppet Bambi the Presidency? That would be stupid–but they are mohammedans…………….
I do believe that if I were there I would leave–but State does hire some real winners. I hope they bought better document shredders than we had in Tehran.
I don’t like the camel jockeys any more than the rest of you, but you’ve got to admit that these demonstrators have succeeded in ousting an authoritarian “President” who had 30+ years to get his people in place, and have his way with the whole country. Let’s give credit where credit is due, and not jump to the conclusion that Egypt is lost to the jihadis.
Muslim Brotherhood’s Goals Uncovered: Global Islamic Conquest & Caliphate
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Posted by Pamela Geller on Friday, September 03, 2010 at 01:28 PM
Muslim Ideological Council:
Obama should be named “Caliph of Muslims” “Mullah Barack Hussain Obama” “Allama Obama”
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Many people don’t know that don’t know that Barack Hussein Obama took Shahada. By doing so, he told the Muslim Brotherhood that he is one of them.
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When the Military Government is taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt becomes Iran II–can we officially declare Comrade Obama as the official winner of the worst President evah title?
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Defund Egypt completely and use the money saved to build many Nuclear Power plants in the U.S.A. Like France did when they saw the handwriting on the wall after the 1973 oil crisis. Jimmy Carter “solutions” were rejected in France.
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John Bibb
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OK, but he has to take Slow Joe and Jimmah Carter with him. MamaBama in a Burka? Maybe then she would shut up.
Pass the salt and transfat please.
Allah Akbar Bambi–write when you get there. Stop in Nairobi and pick up your birth certificate.
…May He give reign to His kingship in your lifetimes and in your days,
and in the lifetimes of the entire Family of Israel, swiftly and soon…Amen…
–Qaddish
Golda Meir
You’re right, it’s one of the powers reserved the states under the 10th Amendment. Or something.
The utter lack of foreign policy leadership is starkly evident. The state department has been nothing but the embodiment of political cowardice, political correctness, and go along/get along with less than savory other leaders of the world for decades now. That may be the reality to a large extent, but we’ve been without so much as a half assed effort to demonstrate to the world that the United States is a force of freedom, backed by force, if necessary, since at least Reagan. We’re either a serious nation, or not, and the rest of the world is watching. Get ready for tumult ahead, we will pay the price ultimately, because they have been watching an administration without the faintest clue for two years now.
I used to think so warmly of Israel…now, not quite so much.
Back in the day — way back in the day — I remember in the 6th or 7th grade learning about the kibbutzim. This, of course, was socialism on crack…post-family communes. But it was all tremendously appealing. Rather incredibly, my very southern school district was serving up a highly idealized and appealing story of life in a socialist, post-family paradise.
I think the thing that so attracted me about it was (although I was reasonably happy with my own family) that it seemed to “liberate” children, who had their own social niche outside the “tyranny” of a mommy/daddy establishment.
It was a long while later when I came to understand that Israel was not only at its founding a socialist state (don’t know if that would be an appropriate term now) but was decidedly pro-Soviet well into the 1960s.
Sometimes I wonder if Pat Buchanan has some fair points about what loyalties Americans owe and to whom. I am happy to have an important alliance with Israel in pursuit of shared objectives and visions. But I am no longer sentimental about it.
I really don’t see the MB taking over the military. I see them continuing to agitate on the streets and maybe assassinating people until the army decides that they have to crack down and that will be the end of the “revolution”.
That’s one of the defining characteristics of dictatorships: the people get what they deserve, not what they want. The Egyptian people have a very difficult challenge before them: they have to contain the MB. I don’t see it. Especially if the US insists on recognizing the MB as a peaceful, tolerant organization. All that will mean is that the army will tell the US to buzz off while they re-establish order.
Carter was just naive. I think he still loved his country back in the late 1970s.
Obama is the product of a Communist mentor as a teen and a Communist terror bomber mentor as a young man in Chicago.
Obama wants Israel to fall. I don’t think Carter developed his open hatred for Israel until he developed a bitterness for the US for rejecting him for a Hollywood movie star.
PP>> That’s one of the defining characteristics of dictatorships: the people get what they deserve, not what they want.
Those are profound and chilling words, Phil, which I think apply not just to dictatorships but to governments in general. It is deeply troubling to reflect, in this context, on the state of the American polity, the ignorance, the critical mass of people now riding in the wagon rather than helping to pull it, the short-sightedness, the indifference to the preciousness and fragility of the circumstances that we have inherited, the careless attitude to preserving what we have, etc.
Not a good time to have an undocumented president…….
Someone has to finish this..
Dalton: You won’t. I will tell you.
At least I think that’s how it goes. Man, I need to see Road House again.
Morgan: What am I supposed to do?
Dalton: There’s always barber college.
If this “fundamental transformation” spreads as our Dear Reader and his communist agitator friends desire, what’s the time frame for when it arrives here?
You should find hope in the Tea Party movement. We are witnessing what may turn out to be the most inspiring American moment since the revolution itself. It took less than a third of the colonists (in the end, much less at the beginning) to win our independence. Today, more than 40% identify with the Tea Party. I would say that is encouraging.
Most people are sheep. We just need to win them over even if they don’t understand. They are already leaning our way. Let’s just keep hammering away.
Now I definitely need to watch it again. Here I am, at work, reading quotes from a true classic.
Ok, enough Road House thread hijacking
This is the perfect excuse to commit the sin of cross-posting something of my own devising that I earlier today posted over in The Corner:
And now, the American pharaoh must go, too…the one with the high cheekbones and finely-chiseled features…the one who looks above the people with his noble chin raised high…the one who was found as an infant in a basket floating among Hawaiian reeds, sans documents except for a newspaper with a phoned-in birth announcement…Pharaoh Barak, step down!
Dog bites man.
An in depth analysis from Gibbs will run along the lines of the following statement:
“This is a fluid situation”
“We are monitoring it.”
Don’t worry folks The Messiah will put in all this into the proper perspective @ 3PM EST.
Of course that is his Marxist/Islamic/Socialist triangulating perspective.
We are possibly only months away from a major war in the Middle East.
ackvil>> An in depth analysis from Gibbs…
Soon we will hear directly from the mouth of The One various wise comments and observations, each prefaced with assurances that it is “as we have said from the very beginning…” and other pathetic verbal scaffolding to try to make crooked words stand up straight.
More accurate.
MrOlympia#88,
I do not ever watch bho, but if you or any others here do, would you count how many ‘I’s and me’s’ are in the lies coming out of his mouth on how wonderful he thinks he is dealing with this?
L
Re: war in the Middle East…
The Israelis are wisely hunkered down in their rhetoric just now, but I am confident that Israel will not allow the Mid-East map to become any more threatening to them than it already is. Faced with an emerging twin of Iran on their southern border, I would expect them to behave like Michael Corleone on the day he decided to settle all the family business. (They won’t be moving to Las Vegas, though.)
Agreed.
What an idiot.
Biden is correct about two things:
This is a pivotal moment in history; and
The days ahead will be fateful.
Merely the broken clock/blind squirrel metaphor.
On this topic, please check out what the little iran worm is up to.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/02/11/great-iranian-warships-call-in-jeddah/comment-page-1/#comment-85384
L
Yeah. And that didn’t turn out too well for Louis and Marie, as well as a lot of others that got very sore necks.
Of course, Islam still uses beheading so the coming revolution should look familiar in the context of French history.
Just ready to support their “brothers in need of assistance.” Besides, what could possibly go wrong?
Do I even need to use the /sarc tag?
I’ve really, really missed the great M-E coverage that we used to get on Fox from Jennifer Griffin. I’ve wondered if there was any thought from either her or the Fox suits that she should get her boots on and hustle off to the story. Of course, nobody has earned rest and family life more than Jennifer has between her experience with terrorism in Gaza and her battle with cancer. But she is a great reporter, and I’ve missed her coverage.
I don’t think this going to go well:
IBD Editorial: What Egyptians Really Want
Ignatius Reilly#100,
I think I am correct that Jennifer lives or has family in Israel. I see her sometimes on Fox, but not as much as in the past. She is a great reporter as you stated.
L
Word now of Iranian adventurism in the Gulf bespeaks the lack of American leadership. It appears Mr. Obama is once again, in over his head. Very dangerous times ahead. As Slow Joe would say: “This is a big ‘effing deal!”
Oh, just shut up, Barak!
I have no patience for a reading of a litany of “we saw” this and “we saw” that. Its just some presidential speech writer reaching for a Peggy Noonan moment.
I’d rather have some straight talk and plain talk from you for a change…without the spin and the ghost-written poetry.
As the old saying goes, “you owe me a computer monitor!”
I just read that our Fearless Leader learned of Mubarak stepping down by watching TV. You would think our once halfway decent intelligence Community would have briefed him in the Puppet Bunker. This is such a joke.