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1. #1
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:13 pm, cabrerski said:

   Addressing a small, anti-Wal-Mart rally at City Hall on Monday, Speaks said young people would get criminal records when they couldn’t resist the temptation to steal.

   Just following the pattern. We build and pay a lot of money for the schools and teachers in the DC area…dumb down all the curriculum, and yet learning still suffers. Witness this local genius.

2. #2
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:15 pm, swede said:

   Speaks said young people would get criminal records when they couldn’t resist the temptation to steal.

   Maybe, ummm, the kids could get the first real jobs of their lives at the new Wallys instead, and learn to work and save and pay bills and… Just a thought. Nevermind.

   This may not be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard but – wait – it is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. All retail commerce must terminate immediately to prevent kids from stealing. Bullet proof logic.

3. #3
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

   Brenda Speaks

   I hope she doesn’t own a car because some young person might steal it.

   Yeah – she’s saying black kids in DC will steal because it’s there. Who’s the racist Brenda? Wow.

4. #4
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:22 pm, BruceB said:

   Why work when you can steal?
   Since most the people who live in DC are black, this persons remark stinks of racism, therefore that makes this person a racist,so we all know that democrats are the most racist people in the world,therefore all the democrats in congress and in the senate need to resign immediately.

5. #5
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:24 pm, AlohaGuy said:

   gone is a gilded wooden statue of the 18th Dynasty King Tutankhamun

   They sell these at Wal-Mart? Oh wait – that’s Egypt. Tut-tut.

6. #6
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:38 pm, DougT said:

   Doug, why aren’t you watching the Grammy’s?

   You have the power of the snark. These sorts of events are meant for you.

7. #7
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:39 pm, chapoutier said:

   Since most the people who live in DC are black, this persons remark stinks of racism, therefore that makes this person a racist

   They are also mostly poor. Why do you automatically assume he is speaking to their race? Did he mention their race? Sounds like projection to me.

   This particular Wal-Mart is actually very close to me. I hope it gets built

8. #8
   On February 13th, 2011 at 11:40 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

   Just for the record she had a (D) after her name.

9. #9
   On February 14th, 2011 at 12:15 am, Krazybee said:

   Perhaps she’s thinking about union members…

10. #10
    On February 14th, 2011 at 12:49 am, mattm said:

    These elected officials really do what their communities to live in a permanent underclass crime-ridden neighborhood, solely reliant on government.

11. #11
    On February 14th, 2011 at 1:44 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    No. Think of the exercise that the kids could get running from the cops. It’s perfect for Michello’s Let’s Move!

12. #12
    On February 14th, 2011 at 2:18 am, thutmose18 said:

    Cheap lead-painted Chicom junk for all!

13. #13
    On February 14th, 2011 at 2:31 am, Socratease said:

    You have to understand that a liberal’s idea of a perfect society is one where it isn’t possible to do illegal things and where prisons are unnecessary. What that means in practical terms is that the entire society is turned into one big prison so that you don’t have to “discriminate” between those who are criminally inclined and those who are not — both get treated the same. Just imagine the TSA’s random searches and lack of profiling writ large.

14. #14
    On February 14th, 2011 at 3:52 am, Hangfire said:

    Is it okay if they just steal belts so that their pants can stay up?

15. #15
    On February 14th, 2011 at 3:55 am, Hangfire said:

    I googled Ms. Speaks. Verrry interesting doo she sports.

    Kind of a “Grace Jones meets Bride of Frankenstein” thang.

16. #16
    On February 14th, 2011 at 5:30 am, cthelight said:

    Wow. Well, wouldn’t want any real jobs in DC, would we?

    Thanks for not watching the Grammy thing, Doug.

17. #17
    On February 14th, 2011 at 5:39 am, GJCorby said:

    I hope Ms. Speaks dosen’t own anything as some young person might be tempted to steal it. Ofcourse she also cannot have any sort of housing as some young person might be tempted to break in and steal something. She must also give all her money away as some young person might be tempted to steal that too.
    Her only recourse is to live naked and penniless on the street so she has nothing to tempt young people to steal.

18. #18
    On February 14th, 2011 at 5:43 am, 123upnorth said:

    I thought the left claimed that bad economic circumstance or otherwords, a lack of employment opportunities was the problem in urban areas Now, the left is arguing that business investment will create problems. I guess, according to the left, anything that isn’t government funded and run by a union is bad for the community.

    Why doesn’t the left just emigrate to North Korea?

19. #19
    On February 14th, 2011 at 6:21 am, Ralph Gizzip said:

    On February 13th, 2011 at 11:39 pm, chapoutier said:

    They are also mostly poor. Why do you automatically assume he is speaking to their race? Did he mention their race? Sounds like projection to me.

    The last Census info I found here shows Ward 4 over 60% black while the poverty rate is only 10%. It would seem Ms. Speaks is speaking more about race than poverty.

20. #20
    On February 14th, 2011 at 6:28 am, docflash said:

    Lyndon Johnson and his boys sure built a huge plantation didn’t they?

21. #21
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:13 am, Ron said:

    I wonder if there are any banks or gas stations in Ms. Speaks’ ward.

    None she hasn’t hit already.

22. #22
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:19 am, chapoutier said:

    The last Census info I found here shows Ward 4 over 60% black while the poverty rate is only 10%. It would seem Ms. Speaks is speaking more about race than poverty.

    Ms. Speaks doesn’t represent all of Ward 4. She works on a particular Advisory Neighborhood Commission, and represents ANC 4B05, a small slice of rough neighborhood. I will bet every penny I have that the poverty rate is well over 10%. And to use the poverty line as the definition of “poor”, especially in a city like DC where cost of living is very high, a little absurd (a sinlge mother and 2 kids living on $19,000/yr would not be considered “poor” by your definition.)

    If you don’t believe me, I am sure there are people here who have been to Walter Reed, either as a patient, stationed there or visiting someone. Ask them if they liked to walk around the neighborhood directly outside the east gates. Ask them if you can find much more than liquor stores, Chinese carry out and check cashing stores there.

23. #23
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:27 am, chapoutier said:

    I wonder if there are any banks or gas stations in Ms. Speaks’ ward.

    No banks. One gas station.

24. #24
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:32 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 13th, 2011 at 11:39 pm, chapoutier said:
    They are also mostly poor.

    Since when does being poor offer an excuse to steal. I’ve been around plenty of poor people over the years, People with morals and ethics do not steal. The DC area not so much.

25. #25
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:37 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    You think Walmart is tempting, wait until they get one of those new French places. I think it’s called Target!

26. #26
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:39 am, chapoutier said:

    Since when does being poor offer an excuse to steal.

    I didn’t say it did. The question is whether or not Speaks implied that young BLACK people are tempted to steal or young POOR people. She made no mention of race in her comment. It is perhaps telling that Bruce B and Ralph assumed it. On the other hand, one can easily see a direct connection between poverty and a temptation to steal (insert obvious Congress/Democrat joke here) without having to bring other factors to bear.

27. #27
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am, Truesoldier said:

    Speaks said young people would get criminal records when they couldn’t resist the temptation to steal.

    What a way to encourage job growth in your neighborhood.

28. #28
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:48 am, babiesgrandma said:

    In Houston, where my mother-in-law used to live, the ghetto slowly crept up to her neighborhood. The local Sears store there had to install plexiglass walls around the clothes that in normal stores would be accessible if one wanted to look at something while walking in or walking out.

    Now they have to protect the clothes from being stolen – these poor defenseless ‘hood kids are ENTITLED to clothes, I guess. Oh, and her old neighborhood is Sheila Jackson Lee’s district. ‘Nuff said.

29. #29
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:00 am, vcallaway said:

    It appears to me the same could be said about electing people to serve in Congress.

30. #30
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:03 am, ThackerAgency said:

    Where are these people when they were arguing about gays or women in the military. Without women or gays, there is less likely for sexual harassment or “hate crimes” for making a gay feel bad.

    So we lock up our finest military men for possibly saying some other girl is cute (makes her feel uncomfortable), and kicking people out for calling gay people gay (hate crime).

    Again, this argument made sense when we were talking about the military. Now, not so much.

31. #31
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:13 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    They are also mostly poor. Why do you automatically assume he is speaking to their race? Did he mention their race? Sounds like projection to me.

    Speaks also did not mention wealth or lack thereof, only youth.
    Sounds like projection to me.

32. #32
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am, chapoutier said:

    Speaks also did not mention wealth or lack thereof, only youth.
    Sounds like projection to me.

    No. A reasonable conclusion considering she was actually talking about property crime.

33. #33
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:25 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Brenda Speaks, a Ward 4 ANC commissioner

    ANC?
    African National Congress?

34. #34
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:29 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I wonder if there are any banks or gas stations in Ms. Speaks’ ward.

    I’m wondering if there are any Parents or responsible adults in her ward. How about churches or schools? Is there anyone teaching kids that stealing is wrong?

35. #35
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:31 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 3:52 am, Hangfire said:
    Is it okay if they just steal belts so that their pants can stay up?

    +1

36. #36
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    swede said:

    This may not be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard but – wait – it is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

    Pretty much–she beat out Slow Joe and Sheila Jackson Lee. When they build the over priced monument to Really Stupid Statements she will right up there. I can think of one lawyer that might make it
    
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37. #37
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:36 am, Mostly Annoyed said:

    I’m not sure why this commissioner thinks Wal-Mart would be different from any other store.

    Her reasoning speaks volumes about the situation in the nation’s capitol, both that that is most likely where she was educated, as well as the people who elected her. But then again, they elected Barry regardless of what he did. IF this is what the Liberals ara allowed to do with the rest of the country, there is no hope of survival.

38. #38
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am, chapoutier said:

    I’m not sure why this commissioner thinks Wal-Mart would be different from any other store.

    She doesn’t. Later in the piece, it is made pretty clear that this is simply posturing to get Wal-Mart to sign onto some community pledge.

    I am sure the vast majority want the Wal Mart there. They are just trying to extract as many concessions as possible.

39. #39
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:45 am, chapoutier said:

    I can think of one lawyer that might make it

    Just one?

40. #40
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:50 am, RedDog said:

    Seems like security needs to focus on Brenda Speaks. They’d likely get a collar if they profiled her. Odds are she already has a record herself. DC deserves this idiot.

    This is a good reason why DC should not get self-rule much less statehood. This person is the norm. It would be akin to inmates running an asylum.

    I wonder if she is on a Pigford claim? What do you want to bet?

41. #41
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Just one?

    At the moment One will do.

    extract as many concessions as possible

    Preferably in hundred dollar bills, bundled for safe freezer storage. The inmates are in charge.

42. #42
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:52 am, RedDog said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am, chapoutier said:
    I am sure the vast majority want the Wal Mart there. They are just trying to extract as many concessions as possible.

    You mean free stuff? Why not weekly checks?

43. #43
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:53 am, GraniteMan said:

    Talk about trusting the people. With all the money politicians steal every day we should close Government. Hey! Not a bad idea.

44. #44
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:54 am, misterbee241 said:

    Speaks said young people would get criminal records when they couldn’t resist the temptation to steal.

    Well, they can always come to Virginia Wal-Marts for their criminal record if they cant get one in DC.

45. #45
    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am, chapoutier said:

    You mean free stuff? Why not weekly checks?

    Businesses try to extract concessions (tax breaks, zoning changes) from neighborhoods all the time. Why should that only go one way?

46. #46
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:02 am, prendad said:

    Don’t they have any intelligent people to serve as Ward 4 ANC commissioner in D.C.? I guess not because as I read about the area from day to day it sounds much worse than when I used to live there in ’65.

47. #47
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:20 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am, chapoutier said:
    Speaks also did not mention wealth or lack thereof, only youth.
    Sounds like projection to me.
    No. A reasonable conclusion considering she was actually talking about property crime.

    You do like to have it both ways don’t you? But we can’t have a reasonable conclusion when the area is a predominantly black population?

    All crime is property crime. Theft of one thing or another.

48. #48
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am, chapoutier said:
    Businesses try to extract concessions (tax breaks, zoning changes) from neighborhoods all the time. Why should that only go one way?

    Because the other way leads to extortion and abuse of power.

49. #49
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:28 am, chapoutier said:

    But we can’t have a reasonable conclusion when the area is a predominantly black population?

    I guess you have to ask yourself whether, and why, you consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that black people are inherently predisposed to crime.

    All crime is property crime. Theft of one thing or another.

    Huh?

    Because the other way leads to extortion and abuse of power.

    And the other way can’t? Don’t be silly. Wal-Mart is a big boy. It can handle itself. If the deal doesn’t make fiscal sense for them, I have no doubt of their willingness to walk away and find some other, more friendly location.

50. #50
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:36 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    guess you have to ask yourself whether, and why, you consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that black people are inherently predisposed to crime.

    I’d also have to ask myself why I’d consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that young people are inherently predisposed to crime, or poor people for that matter.

51. #51
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am, chapoutier said:

    I’d also have to ask myself why I’d consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that young people are inherently predisposed to crime, or poor people for that matter.

    You have to wonder why poor people and young people may be more predisposed to commit crime?

    Really?

52. #52
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    And the other way can’t? Don’t be silly. Wal-Mart is a big boy. It can handle itself. If the deal doesn’t make fiscal sense for them, I have no doubt of their willingness to walk away and find some other, more friendly location.

    So extortion and abuse of power is okay because they’re big boys and can absorb it if they want?

    And the other way can’t?

    I’m not sure how Walmart can extort a town to build in. Seems to me the town holds the power.

53. #53
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:44 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    You have to wonder why poor people and young people may be more predisposed to commit crime?

    Really?

    I guess I come from a time when the poor and the young did not just steal as a matter of lifestyle. I wonder what all changed?

54. #54
    On February 14th, 2011 at 10:53 am, chapoutier said:

    So extortion and abuse of power is okay because they’re big boys and can absorb it if they want?

    No. Because it is not extortion and abuse if you have equal bargaining power.

    I’m not sure how Walmart can extort a town to build in. Seems to me the town holds the power.

    HAHAHAHAHA!!! Then why do so many local governments fall over themselves to give Wal Mart lucrative tax breaks? How is Wal Mart routinely able to threaten lawsuit if its property value is not reassessed at a much lower rate?

    I guess I come from a time when the poor and the young did not just steal as a matter of lifestyle. I wonder what all changed?

    Predisposition does not make “a matter of lifestyle.” But I will bet even in your halcyon days of milk and honey the poor and the young committed proportionally more crimes.

55. #55
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:16 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Why do you automatically assume he is speaking to their race? Did he mention their race? Sounds like projection to me.

    Why do you automatically assume he Ms. Brenda Speaks is speaking to their race gender? Did he she mention their race gender? Sounds like projection to me.

56. #56
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:22 am, AlohaGuy said:

    chapoutier said:
    …
    No. A reasonable conclusion considering she was actually talking about property crime.

    Yes, and it’s a reasonable conclusion to think she was talking about black youth.

57. #57
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:24 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Socratease said:

    You have to understand that a liberal’s idea of a perfect society is one where it isn’t possible to do illegal things and where prisons are unnecessary. What that means in practical terms is that the entire society is turned into one big prison so that you don’t have to “discriminate” between those who are criminally inclined and those who are not

    +1

58. #58
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:24 am, chapoutier said:

    Yes, and it’s a reasonable conclusion to think she was talking about black youth.

    I’ll repeat:

    I guess you have to ask yourself whether, and why, you consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that black people are inherently predisposed to crime.

59. #59
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:27 am, Truesoldier said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am, chapoutier said:
    Businesses try to extract concessions (tax breaks, zoning changes) from neighborhoods all the time. Why should that only go one way?

    Good point. I know when they built the Super Walmart in my small town they went back and forth for awhile. The city wanted Walmart to help pay for a new road that would loop around town claiming that traffic down main street was already bad and would only get worse with a Walmart being built and the city did not want to stick the taxpayers with the bill. Walmart conceeded to it with the caveat that the loop around town would end right at the Walmart parking lot. Turned out to be a win win situation if you ask me.

60. #60
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:37 am, jt3151 said:

    What exactly was her line about temptation to steal? I hate when reporters clean up the speech of idiots.
    I want their illiteracy to be on full display.

61. #61
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:44 am, AlohaGuy said:

    why, you consider it a reasonable conclusion to assume a black woman would be claiming that black people are inherently predisposed to crime.

    I don’t think it’s reasonable for her to think that, but I do think she subconsciously thinks it. It falls into the category, “Studying is a White thing”. It’s black people (a minority to be sure) who say that – and it’s also an unreasonable conclusion. I doubt this thought would cross her mind if she were to hear that Wal-Mart was building a store in Appalachia.

62. #62
    On February 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am, jdtruly said:

    Hmm, can’t have stores there, isn’t that adding to Mrs. O’s food desert problem? The left’s endless whining so often comes around to whack them in the butt.

63. #63
    On February 14th, 2011 at 12:21 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    All retail commerce must terminate immediately to prevent kids from stealing. Bullet proof logic.

    Absolutely, and it must stop because retail commerce provides employment, income and self esteem. If eligible kids are employed how does gubmint justify asking for money to spend on programs for the kids to be used in make-work temporary jobs, and keep their time occupied and entertained at taxpayer expense?

64. #64
    On February 14th, 2011 at 12:43 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    From the Washington Post article:
    

    First, would a new Wal-Mart there really stock the same quality of food and products as its stores do in better-off, suburban communities?

    “I’ll believe it when I see it,” Mya Harris, 24, said skeptically. “Sure, you can put the store here, but what are they going to put inside it?”

    Over time, WalMart locations dial in their stocking to reflect what people buy, so each store eventually takes on a local flavor.

    I agree with Chap that the locals are likely holding out for some “extras” and who could blame them for trying.

    However, that this community would materially obstruct WalMart from providing not only the goods, but potentially the services (vision, pharmacy, banking, clinic) they need, shows how clueless they are.

65. #65
    On February 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm, swede said:

    Rogue Cheddar said:
    On February 13th, 2011 at 11:39 pm, Since when does being poor offer an excuse to steal.

    Ah, Les Misérables. The classic Jean Valjean philosophical conundrum: “Is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?”

    The answer of course is yes. But an oppressed black kid lifting an IPod from Wally World is different. It’s called “reparation”.

66. #66
    On February 14th, 2011 at 1:29 pm, swede said:

    chapoutier said:
    This particular Wal-Mart is actually very close to me. I hope it gets built

    I suspect their wine selection will fall short of your standards, unless you’ve become partial to Gallo in the gallon bottle with twist top. Just sayin’

67. #67
    On February 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    chapoutier said:
    This particular Wal-Mart is actually very close to me. I hope it gets built

    Can’t wait to see the youtubes of you shopping there in your pygamas!

68. #68
    On February 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    Rogue Cheddar said:
    (referencing Chapoutier)
    Can’t wait to see the youtubes of you shopping there in your pygamas!

    I LOVE those e-mails of Shoppers at Wal-Mart when they come around. It takes all kinds to make the Wally World go ’round!

69. #69
    On February 14th, 2011 at 3:17 pm, Hangfire said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, babiesgrandma said:
    I LOVE those e-mails of Shoppers at Wal-Mart when they come around. It takes all kinds to make the Wally World go ’round!

    It sucks when you recognize a relative.

70. #70
    On February 14th, 2011 at 3:59 pm, nail49 said:

    It sucks when you recognize a relative.

    Sucks even more if you see yourself — not that I ever have!

71. #71
    On February 14th, 2011 at 4:02 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Can’t wait to see the youtubes of you shopping there in your pygamas!

    Where I live, that’s quite common summertime wear no matter where one shops. Public attire in too many ways has gone beyond casual and not for the better.

72. #72
    On February 14th, 2011 at 5:27 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Can’t wait to see the youtubes of you shopping there in your pygamas!

    I have intel on chap wearing silk kimonos.

73. #73
    On February 14th, 2011 at 5:48 pm, swede said:

    I have intel on chap wearing silk kimonos.

    Dang! WikiLeaks didn’t miss anything, did they?

74. #74
    On February 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm, vatodio said:

    Brenda is an honest babe or

    self-destructive fool or

    both.

75. #75
    On February 14th, 2011 at 8:41 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On February 14th, 2011 at 2:31 am, Socratease said:
    You have to understand that a liberal’s idea of a perfect society is one where it isn’t possible to do illegal things and where prisons are unnecessary.

    You mean like the planet Camazotz?

    Can’t wait to see the youtubes of you shopping there in your pygamas!

    Is that a regional spelling? We’ve always spelled it “pajamas.” Just curious.

76. #76
    On February 15th, 2011 at 9:27 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Is that a regional spelling? We’ve always spelled it “pajamas.” Just curious.

    Pajamas and pyjamas are most common, but I’ve seen pygamas also. I googled and found all three variations. I’m not sure about origins and why I chose pygamas.

77. #77
    On February 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am, Socky said:

    Since when does being poor offer an excuse to steal.

    Along time ago, people opposed to theft were presented with a moral challenge, “Is it all right to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family.”

    Liberals, being dumb, have extrapolated that ethical question to a presumption that poor people steal because they are deprived of necessities.

    This way, they can preen sanctimoniously and condemn those of us who defend property rights by claiming we want poor people to starve.

    The way Chapoutier preens sanctimoniously over the alleged racism of his opponents.

78. #78
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:01 am, chapoutier said:

    This way, they can preen sanctimoniously and condemn those of us who defend property rights by claiming we want poor people to starve.

    I don’t think you actively WANT poor people to starve, Socky. I just don’t think you care too much one way or the other.

79. #79
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:07 am, chapoutier said:

    Liberals, being dumb, have extrapolated that ethical question to a presumption that poor people steal because they are deprived of necessities.

    Also, maybe you could point out where anyone, even Ms. Speaks here, said that poor people steal because they are being deprived of necessities.

    I only said poor people have greater incentive to steal. Which is obviously true. I never said they had to do it for necessities or to feed their families or anything else. For you to extrapolate anything else actually is stupid.

80. #80
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:25 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:07 am, chapoutier said:
    I only said poor people have greater incentive to steal.

    You also said that youth has a greater propensity to steal. What about black youth? Although I’m not sure what the incentive is, kicks perhaps?

81. #81
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am, chapoutier said:

    You also said that youth has a greater propensity to steal.

    Yes, due to an lesser developed common sense and fear of consequences.

    What about black youth?

    To the extent they are poorer than the general population, I suspect they do.

    Although I’m not sure what the incentive is, kicks perhaps?

    You don’t know what the incentive is to steal?

82. #82
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:35 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am, chapoutier said:
    You don’t know what the incentive is to steal?

    Not as well as the disincentives, but then, I’m not a lawyer.

83. #83
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:37 am, AlohaGuy said:

    I don’t think you actively WANT poor people to starve, Socky. I just don’t think you care too much one way or the other.

    You guys ever run into each other at the Food Bank?

84. #84
    On February 15th, 2011 at 11:43 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Rich or poor the temptation to steal is always there. Bernie Madoff? Enron? Half of Congress? At the companies where I have worked it was the Executives who stole far more than the employees, and when caught, quietly left with no prosecutions.

    Thinking of a store as a magnet to theft for the local youths is insulting to the youths and the parents who are attempting to raise them. Since most are probably black, I think it’s a subtle form of racism. The kind of racism that writes off inner-city schools thinking the kids can’t do well enough to be college material.

85. #85
    On February 15th, 2011 at 7:48 pm, TK-421 said:

    LOL is it wrong I laugh at this? Its hillarious serriously makes my day. I mean normally when you steal you get criminal records and I just love the logic, lets solve the crime problem by making it so they have nothing good to steal! lol god I love that Logic its like LETS MAKE THE TITANTIC NEVER SINK BY PUTTING IT ON LAND!

    lol God I love how stupid our goverment is I’m sure other World Leaders are laughing too. Which is bad.