Subtlety Takes a Holiday: Palin-Supporting Tea Party Character on CBS Drama Named ‘McVeigh’
**Written by Doug Powers
At least they didn’t make his first name “Adolph.”
From Fox News:
The CBS drama “The Good Wife” has raised a few eyebrows by naming Gary Cole’s character, a ballistics expert, Tea Party member, and Sarah Palin supporter, “Kurt McVeigh,” a not so subtle comparison to Timothy McVeigh, the man behind the 1995 Oklahoma City bombings.
Wait, it’s not what you think, because naming the Tea Partier after a mass murderer was intended to draw out the prejudices of the liberal character… or something like that:
“The Kurt McVeigh character was introduced mid-season our first year, and at that time, he was given a name that was intended to play into the anti-conservative prejudices of the more liberal partner, Diane,” King told Pop Tarts. “So no red flags were raised because the point was to satirize Diane’s prejudice against his name. The point of the McVeigh character was that he was the most truthful and forthright character on the show, and yet he just happened to be a strong conservative.”
Well, that explains it then. But just to be fair — and what Hollywood liberal doesn’t like fairness — shouldn’t the left-leaning character’s name be “Kaczynski” just to provide some equal-opportunity satire? Why only poke fun at the liberal character’s prejudice? Hollywood’s been carrying conservatives for too long!
By the way, The Good Wife producers want Donald Rumsfeld to be on the show. Maybe Rummy’s character will be named “Hitler” — you know, just to expose the prejudices of the more liberal characters.
**Written by Doug Powers
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Subtle as a sledgehammer….
Who is Barry Soetoro?
I like this show, but hate all the liberal spin. If I did not watch a show becasue of the lefty writing I could only watch House Hunters and Paula Deen.
When I heard this characters last name I laughed, because they are sooooo obvious.
Regarding this matter, I find myself agreeing with the producer’s explanation. The character involved played by Gary Cole has consistently been a solid person who challenges effectively (and dramatically) the liberal idiocy of the lawyers in the DRAMA.
When plaintiffs in the DRAMA attempted to besmirch the character as having been involved with the Tea Party, the attack was very well blunted by some sound courtroom reasoning (as far as a DRAMA might achieve this).
I’m as sensitive to liberal bias in tv writing as anyone but this criticism fails to see the whole of the presentation and is a little “thin skinned” to take offense.
Sorry for the second post. We should note this is not a new character. He was introduced last year when comment was made about his name. He also presented the lawyer with a copy of Sarah Palin’s book and the drama involved is her having to get past her idiotic liberal bias face the fact that guy is mightily appealing to her.
I tried to watch the show once, couldn`t take the liberal spin, changed channel and haven`t looked back ! It bugs me that my fave show, “NCIS” is on CBS, but, aiyee !
What to do?
A. Watch ‘The Good Wife’.
B. Watch ‘The Kardashians’.
C. Watch ‘The Jersey Shore’.
D. Go outside and scoop up after the dog.
D. it is.
Truthful? Forthright? and Conservative too? wow we need to see more people like this.
/sarc
Who is Barry Soetoro?
VP, can I use this too?
Leave it to CBS! No surprise there!
Great Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7UAusqESx0&feature=player_embedded
Time to Rollback!
I guess the names “Howell” and “Koresh” were taken… or too subtle for them.
I was thinking more like Ayers or Dorn.
Just my preference, but there’s so many to choose from.
Lots of options
The ever present gray area when not seeing “the whole of the presentation” suggests some might be too stupid to actually understand what they are seeing. The left loves using that excuse.
Yeah, “thin skinned” to constantly being portrayed as racist, homophobe, bigots who hate kids and want to kill old people and squashes puppies…
…leads to it being constantly and childishly repetitive, so much so that many of the nuts on the left truly believe it…along with some of the not so nuts like Nitwit Napolitano who thinks returning veterans should be monitored for potential terrorist acts.
…leads to students at raving lefty institutions booing and denouncing a Purple Heart veteran.
As Doug said, if similar portrayals of the left were also shown, it might not be so pathetic.
Yup.
Well said.
Right up there with the lame “taken out of context.”
Sorry, but have you ever seen the episode of Paula Deen kissin’ Jimmah Cahtah’s bu++? DIS-gusting.
Other than that, the liberal spin goes on. WAINS?*
*Why Am I Not Surprised?
Rogue Cheddar:
I vote d.
WHO IS BARRY SOETORO? INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.
It’s all over the t.v. Discovery on cable is as bad as any major network. They come out with some shows like the My Life is a Zoo and Alaska Wild Flying and they have to insert “gorbull warming” GRRRR…my t.v. changes station.
well said and ty for your service.
I could watch “Harry’s Law” only twice – and by then was so disgusted at the constant pro-loony-left and anti-right viewpoint of the main “heroic” characters that I left and never went back. The Not-Very-Good-Wife lost me a long time ago. Like Rogue Cheddar above, there are far better things for me to be doing than submit to Hollywood’s attempt to brainwash.
http://online.wsj.com/community/groups/question-day-229/topics/should-state-employees-have-collective-bargaining
Vote !
I have 300 plus channels and only a few are worth turning on. That is why I am such an avid books on tape listener. I can get my entertainment by listening to Vince Flynn novels and watching baseball or football with the volume muted. Fox news and fox business news are my only volume up channels and only on certain programs.
I guess I don’t watch enough TV…sarc, but really I’ve never heard of this show.
I haven’t watched a major net work series show in years, don’t miss it either. I’m going off cable, too expensive to be mentally targeted by the liberals with their drool. Connect my pc to my t.v. cheaper and more to choose from…not a big fan of comcrap to start.
Yawn. People here are truly lacking in a real sense of humor. Oh well. Life goes on for test of us.
If you don’t like it move on…by the way this the only reply you’ll get from me, I do not attempt to communicate with left wing, Marxist, NAZI(liberals the true nazi’s) trolls…now crawl back into the sludge you came from.
I’ve broken my longstanding boycott of network “drama” television to watch “Blue Bloods”. Not bad, not political.
That’s the idea……..
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.
Samuel Adams
I love reading Vince Flynn novels. I just finished Pursuit of Honor last night, and I am about to start American Assassin sometime this evening. I hate it he announced he had prostate cancer, link , but at least his prognosis looks good.
As per this topic, it’s another awful liberal turd thrown out by the commies in Hollywood. I watched one episode and crossed it off the list. Outside of news and sports, History, Discovery, and A&E is about all I watch these days.
It’s almost like they are taking something that liberals do often, according to people here, and have a character jump to conclusions about
someone based off of a name or political identity.
Then, CBS goes to show that this character is an honest, true person, in spite of the prejudices against him by the ‘liberal character’. In fact, they end up in love in this show.
And you’re all upset, why?
My post was not directed to you, and yet you respond with name-calling. You really should take an anger management class as you clearly have some unresolved issues (as well as grammar ones like using an apostrophe in a word that is not being used as a possessive).
Understanding plot, irony, or satire is not their strongest point, kyle5. It has to be pointed out to them directly. Even then they might not get it. You did hit it right on the nail, though.
I watch Benny Hill. Plenty of entertainment, it never gets old, and no liberal spin.
Who wrote the piece above? I don’t think they know what they are talking about. For example, the liberal character’s last name is Lockhart, rather appropo for a Democrat, in my opinion. AND she has the hots for the Conservative Weapons Expert played by Gary Cole, no slouch of an actor or role. (‘Love’ is an interesting way to put it, kentroyals5.) The Good Wife is one of the most well-written shows on TV. When you compare it to the rest of the crud out there, it looks pretty good. Give this one a rest.
I have never seen the show in question, but McVeigh can be spelled:
MacVeigh
MacFey
McFey
MacFee
McFee
McVay
MacVay
and all sorts of English bastardizations of the original Gaelic.
Curiously, they chose Timothy McVeigh’s spelling.
This is the network that has even been trying to spin NCIS to the Left…and tolerated Charlie Sheen’s behavior far too long.
Why would anyone watch a show that’s based on a Eliot Spitzer-like character.
MSD You say that your comments weren’t directed at the person who responded to your post #22. In which you said “people on here”. That seems to me to include everyone on here. And in post#29 you use them and they. So tell me ,exactly who are your comments for. And as far as grammar, I think you meant to say : Life goes on for the rest of us. Not : Life goes on for test of us. So are you on here for meaningful discussions or you just baiting for the heck of it. Could have used your input in the Trumka thread.
Really, txvet2 I’ve skipped past it a couple times and thought about watching it just for Tom S. When is he going to run for president of the NRA?
I think this show is extremely well written. The producer’s take is the one I would have given had I been asked. The character as written is smart, conservative, and named to set the Diane character’s teeth on edge until she discovers he’s smart, good-looking and honest. They are attracted to each other, and since they are so different it helps make the drama interesting. Sorry, I think this is a non-starter.
Theres so few conservatives on Tv maybe I should give ol’ Tom a try….
wasn’t rush limbaugh, or joe mccarthy considered?
naw too subtle….
Answer to the question without the questionmark: because the show is based on the WIFE of the Elliot Spitzer-like character. Thus the title. It’s a show about a fictional decent person in difficult sitations. And it’s better than most.
Blue Bloods is a very good show, with an excellent cast. Ol’ Tom is great.
“I went to the Tripoli bar in Istanbul, like you told me!”
“I said to go to the Tivoli bar at the Eastham BOWL”
You’re right. he never gets old
People still watch these shows? We stopped watching alphabet networks years ago except for NCIS which my husband will never give up.
You are right Kingsjester, they have been spinning NCIS to the left in the last few episodes. I guess they just don’t know when they have a good thing going…soon they will lose that audience too if they keep it up.
Fred Scuttle for President!
I’m as conservative as can be and I agree with AlohaGuy. I cringed when the character was first introduced, but I have to admit that the writers have rebounded by making sure that the liberal assumptions about him are offset by his well reasoned and pithy retorts. He comes across as a steadfast conservative who doesn’t abandon his principles – in fact he willingly goes into the lion’s den to take on liberals.
I am pleased that the quality of character development and writing has stayed consistently high in the show’s second season. One of the better dramas on the air.
Also, RE: alphabet network dramas, I can’t stand their patently obvious attempts to be topical and relevant.
If some kid gets his Schmeckel caught in his zipper and sues Levi Strauss, then a month later an alphabet drama will feature a story where a kid’s genitals are mutilated by a large garment industry company of unspecified name.
“OOOH, Chief, I’ve got it! Let’s make it a company that hires underage kids in Thailand.”
“No, wait! How about a young girl undergoing a clitorectomy when zipping up her fly going to a solidarity rally for Wisconsin?”
I can’t think of the last show I watched on CBS.
Or their attempts to think they are being topical and relevant. Fail.
It appears from the comments that conservatives who have watched the show have no problem with it, in fact they like it. That being the case, people who have their doubts should check it out and judge for themselves. I haven’t seen it so I have no opinion. And unless Mr. Powers has in fact seen it (it appears he has not), he should do the same.
Note: A certain very popular movie of 2010 comes to mind as a good example of the wisdom of watching things before condemning them..
No cable in the Acclaim house. We watch Bones and In Plain Sight on Netflix, NCIS on Hulu.
They are part of clan McBeth (descended from you know who). I know all about misspelled Scottish names since my clan, Irvine, has over 200 known and accepted variant spellings.
What irritates me the most is that the attempts of liberals to politicize their humor are so dull and unfunny. This really is the stuff of high school students. Here in New York for example we have the Manhattan Storage company whose subway ads take swipes at conservatives in the most immature ways possible. Examples:
“If you store your stuff outside the city, it might come back Republican”
“Until it’s safe to have a tea party again” (underneath photo of tea set presumably about to go into storage)
Of course, liberals find these little bon mots hilarious because laughing at them identifies themselves to each other and they feel like part of their smug little club. It really is most pathetic.
A MacGuffey here, and also with many variants.
Also I’m a Howrey, which is Scoti but ancestor came over from Kintye.
Amateurs. Lrn2propaganda. With the rise of right-wing blogs, the goose-steeping brown shirt leftists in the entertainment industry can no longer get away with this kind of semi-subtle propaganda. Put a bit more effort in next time. Sheesh. Now they’re just going to get boycotted by the Right and lose viewers. Win?
I can’t comment on the show because I stopped watching dramas on the alphabet networks when Hill Street Blues went off the air.
That said, it takes a really brilliant clever writer to use the moniker “McVeigh” for a conservative Tea Party supporter. I’m sure that next they will come up with a character named “Hillary” who is a left-wing closet lesbian married to a philandering charismatic speech maker.
Of course they will! /sarc
Who is Barry Soetoro, and why does he want to destroy the country?
I didn’t see the show in question … I watch very little of the “alphabet” networks programming …
That being said … I am offended … and I have every right to be …
I lost a cousin in the Murrah building bombing … her name is on one of the chairs by the reflecting pool at the memorial … we place flowers on it every year on April 19 …
Two of her children had just left the building 15 minutes before the blast … they both worked for other government agencies with offices in that building … mere minutes earlier and we would have lost 2 more family members … they have both been totally devastated emotionally ever since …
Another cousin lived in an apartment 2 blocks from the explosion … she and her 2 year old daughter were injured when they were struck by flying glass from the windows and patio doors that were shattered inwardly from the blast …
I find nothing humorous in the intentional usage of a name that they had to know would invoke painful memories on so many …
I love this show and watched last week’s episode. I was keenly dialed in to the tea party reference, and was surprised that, despite aliging himself with the tea party, the character was given the opportunity to frame the TP concerns as about taxation and unrestrained government spending. The episode was about something else, and the character was treated fairly, despite the liberal bias. Also, Alicia ends up lowering her “attitude” about her daughter’s interest in Jesus Christ and agrees to take her to church. I was pleased with the episode, much more than I thought I would be.
It had another interesting story line, with Eli being sympathetic to the illegal immigrant “nanny” played by America Ferrera. It’s such a good show.
Yes, you do. I feel for you and your cousin’s family.
I raised my right hand and was inducted into the US Navy there in the Federal Building in OKC.
I also went to school with some McVeigh’s, but they’re no relation.
I had a Commanding Officer named Castro, no relation.
My last name is the same as one of the worst Presidents this nation has ever suffered, but I’m not related.
You and I both know what the network is doing, but they can claim “no relation.”
Is that Soetoro or Obama ? j/k
It got me thinking that we can all collaborate to come up with our own sit-com right here (Michelle M will be so proud of us!). Let’s start with a list of characters now and leave the script for later -
Here’s my contribution for consideration to kick things off:
Barrack Tse-Tung
Rahm Speer
Hillary Kaczynski
Bugsy Biden
Oprah Dahmer
Saw a soft ‘dig’ @ Palin on a recent rerun of NCIS. Not happy.
Hillary Kaczynski? Ok, but she wouldn’t be a Good Wife would she?
Bugsy Biden is a given-or should that be Buggy?
If you didn’t watch this show there would be no viewers?
Blue Bloods is a teriffic show, and Tom Selleck is as hunky as ever!! Great cast altogether, with many familiar faces from shows I used to watch (NYPD Blue, Third Watch). And I love that they have a sit down family dinner every week.
I missed seeing it this week and forgot to set the DVR. Rats!
FYI No such thing as a ‘moderate’ democrat. Successful or otherwise.
They are all socialists now.
Which certain movie might that be? I quit watching movies other than the ones I collected BEFORE some of these ‘actors’ outed themselves as raving liberal/regressives. It still makes me cringe knowing that I unknowingly supported their paychecks buying the tape/DVD before the revelation. “Shut up and act!” comes to mind.
I’ll never forgive the liberals for ruining the movies! When I was a kid we went to the drive-in every week in our jammies. It was always a double feature. Being the oldest, I usually stayed awake til halfway through the second feature.
I used to LOVE the movies. Now I watch alot of old movies on TCM.
Yet another thing the regressives have stolen from us!
You can view it online:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/blue_bloods/video/?play=true&pid=AuOg8Z6mhfKQsHwzJVoxATOoszb6A8WU
Thanks! I thought I would have to buy it from iTunes or wait for the rerun.
The movies was Inception.
A posting by Mr. Powers last year regarding the film (which he had not seen) caused quite a controvery. The issue was that some of the actors said some of the usual obnoxious progressive cliches. I defended the movie (though not the comments) as a movie because it is very good– yes, I had seen it, would go on to see it three times in fact. There is not an anti-american word in it. I recall one individual on the thread saying he was going to boycott any movie that had a progressive in it. Good luck with that. That simply means boycotting all movies (even Pixar).
I suggested instead that as conservatives we focus on the movie itself to the exclusion of all else. If it is a quality movie with no anti-american content there is no reason to avoid it. It’s perfectly possible for progessive, anti-american types to make a pro-american movie that explicitly warns against the dangers of socialism. I mentioned an example, Days of Heaven, but of course no one was impressed. I also reminded people that Christopher Nolan, the director of Inception, had given the fairest account, in fictional terms of course, of the patriot act in the movie The Dark Knight.
Will I continue to go to fine movies that have jerk actors in them? Yes, I will and I urge others to do the same. I plan on seeing The Tree of Life despite the fact that Senn Penn is the star. I don’t like that fact any more than anybody else does, But I have such confidence in the director Terrence Malick, the director btw of Days of Heaven, that I am confident he will do a quality job and I will over look that element of the cast.
By rewarding quality movies that are not anti-american, we send the strongest possible message to the market. And until the day Hollywood puts me in charge of casting, that is the best we can hope to do.
Really? You will urge them to go to movies that have jerk actors in them? You misunderstand the argument, beenthere.
No one is saying you are an awful person for going to a movie that has a leftwing loon actor in it.
What we are saying is that even if we know the movie has no political spin, we find the idea of our movie going dollar ending up in the pockets of a leftwing loon too distasteful for us to consider the trade off worth it.
There are many variables that can contribute my reaching a different conclusion than you do, and the variables don’t have to be moral issues at all. There are many, many more variables.
Perhaps you just enjoy viewing movies in the threaters more than I do. Or perhaps before you go to the movie you have more understanding of who the director is and what kind of message the movie is likely to be sending than I have.
Doug’s posting on the issue was a good one. You took his meaning in a way he did not mean it.
Some of the commenters on that thread were saying things that could be read as condemnations of people choosing to go to movies with those leftist slugs in them, but that was not what Doug was doing.
Exactly like that. Many liberals wrongly equate “Tea Party” or “Conservative” with the mass murderer – think Janet Napolitano – even though he wasn’t conservative. The producers and writers wrote the character Diane with those exact same prejudices we see and complain about – then had her discover they really were prejudices and the conservative wasn’t anything like the stereotype she was carrying around in her head.
They have other characters discovering prejudices as well – the lead character uncomfortable with her daughter’s friend who is an evangelical Christian for example.
I’m not trying to convince anyone to watch – just saying that I think the attack on the show for naming the character McVeigh is unwarranted.
I said “fine movies.” The adjective does make a difference.
I understood very well what Mr. Powers was saying and I agree fully with your summation. Repeat: I have read your arguement and have decided that you and Doug etc. are in fact correct. I was in error and admit it. The moral principle has now been established which I accede to: a dollar given to purchase a movie ticket whose cast and/or crew contains one or more “Left-wing loons” results in that purchase being “distasteful,” if for no other reason than who knows what that dollar will be used for or given to.
Conclusion: One shouldn’t do distasteful things and I won’t. It won’t me easy, certainly for me, but I accede to the principle and will act accordingly.
Of course I have questions. Why just “distateful?” Really, that’s it? I actually think the original position was that it was wrong to give a money to purchase a ticket, etc. Now, we all do distasteful things every now and then, frequently because we have to (ex: the boss wants you to go to the company picnic and sing for your fellow employees. You would rather have two or more root canals.)
In other words, there has to be a punch to the business, there has to be a component of wrongness to get people excited. I honestly do not believe Mr. Powers said: “ Some of the cast members of Inception said bad things. I mean they were really bad things and they made me angry, and if you go see that movie (which I haven’t seen and never will), well I would find that distasteful.”
I actually think he was going with the stronger interpretation. And that is the interpretation I will go with.
I have another question. It is not that the argument is right or wrong. The concern is that can it be saved from meaninglessness? Here’s why. Did any of you see Up? Great family movie, took the kids and all of that. cried at times? I bet you did. Bought an Up doll or something? Yet, some of the money you spent for the Up ticket went to Ed Asner, a leftist who is far worse than Leonardo deCaprio. Now maybe you didn’t know about Mr. Asner (he provided the voice for the crabby old guy) but I did and went regardless. Did Mr. Power get a hold of a video of Ed Asner saying bad stuff? Maybe he did, but he would have looked foolish telling everyone to not see Up because of the antics of Mr. Asner. Even Roland would have told him to get lost.
How about Titanic? Great date movie wasn’t it? I bet the wife and/or girlfriend dragged you to see it more than once, perhaps on Valentines day too. I went to see it four times I’m embarrassed to say. Guess what? Director Cameron is to the left of Ed Asner. Cameron collected a lot of distasteful dollars from that one.
What about Avator? Stupid, cliched story (Fern Gully meets the Smurfs for heaven’ sake) which is why I decided to avoided (I read a lot about the movie before deciding). But, of course, a lot of people disagreed with me. I didn’t tell anyone not to see it, however. (Should I have?) And I bet a good number of those who did are on this site. Mr. Powers said nothing.
Now for the final question, the kicker: why stop there? Like professional sports? A lot of athletes are just awful people, worse than actors even, if you can believe that. All manner of crimes and paternity suites in the NBA. The NFL has the same, plus Michael Vick. Does it bother anyone that even if you don’t watch these games at the stadium, but just on plain old television, some of dollars do go to extremely distasteful people like Michael Vick? It doesn’t bother me because I have no interest in professional sports and don’t drink beer and thus do not ever contribute a penny to them. At least I don’t believe I do. I don’t claim to be a better person because of it, however. So as unhappy as some people are with me on this site, at least they can’t say: “Yeah, Beenthere, what a #@^%$*^%, going to see Inception all those times, but at least he doesn’t give any money to Michael Vick! What a great guy.”
Right.
But enough of that. As stated above, I hereby pledge that henceforth whenever Doug Powers and his friends and admirers tell me not to watch a movie, especially one they have not seen, I will comply and enjoy my compliance. Of course, if he and his friends don’t give me the moral guidance I need, I will continue to follow my own judgment. Sorry.
So enjoy the Academy Awards folks and pump that money to Hollywood!
I won’t be watching because I’m confident it will be a flippin’ bore.
Hangfire … I was sworn into the US Marine Corps in Oklahoma City in 1964 … in the old military induction center … which was well before the Murrah building was around (1977) … your thoughts are appreciated …
Semper Fi …
Another show that I wont waste my time watching.
Happened to be!?!?!?!?!? Try BECAUSE HE WAS!
On it’s own merits, this does not sound like much of a deal.
However, when added on top of the mountain of evidence of liberal bias shown by the vast majority of the Hollywood lefties, people can be excused for any over-reactions.
There are a few actors that I will not go to their movies, because their anti-American actions have soured me to the point that I can’t watch them on screen without thinking of their actions. Sean Penn is one of those. Susan Sarandon is another (although I can still make it through Bull Durham but that is the last one she was in that I will). Alec Baldwin and Tina Fey are the latest to make the list, which translates to my never having watched 30 Rock.
I don’t recommend anyone else watch or don’t watch specific actors. It’s just a personal thing for me.
I think it’s up to you as an individual. If you enjoy the movie, then go see it if you want to. If knowing that rich libs get richer from your purchase, then don’t see it. If seeing Sean Penn or whoever ruins the experience, then don’t go.
me i loves me some Blue Bloods.. The Reagans, doncha know? Plus, Selleck is great in the role.