Teachers’ Unions 101: “A” is for “agitation”

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 2, 2011 09:21 AM

My column today expounds on my blog post yesterday on the New York State teachers’ union call to “agitate.” Both the New York state and New York city teachers’ unions wields immense power with massive budgets funded with forced member dues. You may have read the exclusive story in the NYPost on the NYC’s United Federation of Teacher’s double-dipping racket. UFT, you may also recall, is the same Big Labor crony of President Obama’s that has received the largest Obamacare waiver to date.

Agitation = special dispensation.

On the legislative front, Ohio is considering SB 5, the bill to curtail public employee union collective bargaining today — and Big Labor agitation is at full-tilt.

Stay tuned for updates…

Update: Ohio Senate committee passes SB 5.

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Teachers’ Unions 101: “A” is for “agitation”
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

If public school teachers spent more time teaching in classrooms and less time community-organizing in political war rooms, maybe taxpayers wouldn’t feel as ripped off as they do. Before the Big Labor bosses start complaining about “teacher-bashing,” let’s be clear: An increasing number of rank-and-file teachers feel exactly the same way.

Retired New York teacher Vinne Cusimano, who was required to pay forced union dues in order to work, wrote me this week after receiving the March 2011 edition of his union’s monthly publication. The cover of the New York State United Teachers (NYSUT) magazine reads: “Defend What Matters! Educate. Collaborate. AGITATE.” Inside the pamphlet, NYSUT President Richard Iannuzzi rails against “malicious politicians” in Wisconsin and elsewhere proposing “extreme anti-union” budget cuts. He urges his members to join “advocacy” efforts to “maintain critical resources” and lectures about the need to “value education over ideology and greed.”

Cusimano, who taught for four decades in the Empire State, fired back at Ianuzzi in an open letter:

“As a member for over 40 years, I have never been so disappointed at the stand you are taking to call members to ‘AGITATE!’ We are trying to tamp down the rhetoric and you are outward(ly) inciting agitation. How dare you! You are supposed to be for the students/teachers. … How can you support ‘EDUCATE,’ ‘COLLABORATE,’ and then encourage agitation?”

More to the point, what business does Iannuzzi — a fat-cat union official who rakes in nearly $300,000 a year (plus a $100,000 pension) while his organization’s net assets are more than $117 million in the red — have lecturing anyone else about “ideology and greed”? Instead of imposing fiscal discipline on NYSUT, Iannuzzi and his cronies have gone on a spending spree — dumping nearly $10.5 million into left-wing Democratic politics this past year alone. The NYSUT boasts a lobbying staff of 500, a 200,000-square-foot palace in Albany and a $213 million operating budget — paid for through compulsory union dues of about $300 a year from some 600,000 members.

“Agitation,” of course, is a full-time job for teachers union officials in New York and across the country. As the New York Post reported exclusively this week, the city Department of Education compensates some 1,500 teachers for their union activities and also subsidizes other teachers who take their places in the classroom: “It’s a sweetheart deal that costs taxpayers an extra $9 million a year to pay fill-ins for instructors who are sprung — at full pay — to carry out responsibilities for the United Federation of Teachers.”

The UFT soldiers “collect top pay and fringe benefits, but work just one class period a day.” Nice non-work if you can get it.

NYSUT, by the way, is the parent of the double-dipping UFT, which itself rakes in $126 million in member dues — but only reimburses the city less than $1 million out of the $9 million it costs to take teachers out of the classroom to serve at the altar of Big Labor. UFT is also a chapter of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT), which spent nearly $2 million on the election of President Barack Obama in 2008. (In return, you may recall, the Obama administration granted the UFT one of its coveted health care Waivers for Favors last year — exempting the behemoth union in a sweetheart deal from the federal mandate’s costly rules on phasing out annual health coverage limits.)

The forced-dues racket is big business for teachers unions crying poor. In Ohio, the state’s education association siphoned nearly $23 million from rank-and-file school workers to fatten up its union staff. The Ohio Education Association donated more than $1.6 million to Democratic campaigns last year and tossed off five-figure checks each to union and progressive allies in Oregon, Colorado and Policy Matters Ohio, a left-wing think tank funded by radical billionaire George Soros.

At the federal level, the National Education Association squandered $13 million in teachers’ dues on every pet liberal cause and crony from the AFL-CIO ($150,000) and AFSCME ($90,000), to the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the United States Senate ($200,000), Media Matters for America ($100,000) and the White House brigade at Health Care for America Now! ($450,000).

The goals of the teachers union machine are not academic excellence, professional development and fairness. As former NEA official John Lloyd explained it: “You cannot possibly understand NEA without understanding Saul Alinsky. If you want to understand NEA, go to the library and get ‘Rules for Radicals.’”

The goals are student indoctrination, social upheaval and perpetual agitation in pursuit of bigger government and spending without restraint. No wonder the signature “solidarity” color of the teachers union protests this month is red.

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  1. #1
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 am, right_on said:

    The goals are student indoctrination, social upheaval and perpetual agitation in pursuit of bigger government and spending without restraint.

    In other words, Socialist Tyranny.

  2. #2
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The most successful application of Alinsky is the complete cowing of everyone regarding The Usurper’s ineligibility.

    Who is Barry Soetoro?

  3. #3
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 am, sidewinder said:

    We live in scary times.

  4. #4
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 am, babiesgrandma said:

    WAINS?

  5. #5
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 am, Bruce said:

    At least 20 years ago – when my son was in grade school – I began calling public schools “indoctrination camps”, which is exactly what they are. People called me crazy. How many now agree with me?

  6. #6
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:48 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

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    I bet if you looked at the bulk of the student’s report cards, I’d say the teachers already have everybody agitated!

  7. #7
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 am, Guitanguran said:

    Keep pressing MM! I just find the recent polls showing support for these unions to continue this criminal enterprise evidence that the dumbing down of public education over the last few decades, has worked.

  8. #8
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am, LanMandragoran said:

    Perhaps all of these teachers unions should rally under one banner that speaks closer to the truth of their beliefs and social background: “Soviets for Students!

    Doing so would give their “solidarity” color of red an even more appropriate meaning.

  9. #9
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 am, steamjetKC135 said:

    Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis once said “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.”

    Getting the word out about these Unions is just the antidote needed for the poison they are spewing. Keep the pedal to the metal, or keep the throttles to the firewall for all you jet jockeys! The truth will prevail.

  10. #10
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:29 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The goals are student indoctrination, social upheaval and perpetual agitation in pursuit of bigger government and spending without restraint.

    Spelled out in the 1963 Communist Goals as read into the Congressional record. Look it up. It’s frightening how successful they have been. Time is short to save America. Wake up your neighbors an friends if they are still asleep. The coup has already happened.

  11. #11
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:34 am, Ron said:

    This radical left push for open revolution, by openly Marxist groups and pseudo-unions, is the biggest threat we face right now, at least on a par with radical Islam, maybe bigger. We need to prevent these radical socialists and Islamists from taking over our country.

  12. #12
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 am, cheapseat said:

    The best antidote in our teaching profession seems to be the Rhode Island approach. FIRE THEM ALL, AND REHIRE THE ONES YOU WANT. A further suggestion to all states who think today’s children are being indoctrinated while being baby sat instead of educated. Make our teachers take an SAT test to see if they are qualified to teach our children. If they can’t score 1000 on an SAT, they are dumber than the average high school student. If that’s true, fire the teachers, and hire the high school kids and save a bundle.

  13. #13
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 am, ChocolateCzar said:

    State Senate Votes to End ‘Last In, First Out’ Teacher Firing Policy

    http://www.dnainfo.com/20110301/manhattan/state-senate-votes-end-last-first-out-teacher-firing-policy

  14. #14
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 am, RedDog said:

    Pack up all the treasonous Leftists and send them to Libya and Egypt. Agitate there. I’d give them 30 minutes survival time.

    Choke the Beast. Annual manditory balanced budget. 15% of GDP max. No money no agitation. Pass it on baby.

  15. #15
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 am, RedDog said:

    There must be ample evidence for impeachment and/or malfeasance of office from Obama on down. Start the investigations now please.

  16. #16
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 am, mondamay said:

    Defund What Matters (to the Left)

    Exhort! Report! Deport!

    :P

  17. #17
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:47 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:40 am, sidewinder said:

    We live in scary times.

    Yes we do sidewinder, yes we most certainly do. But be of good cheer-this is our generation’s chance to step up and defend this Grand Republic from Enemies Foreign and Domestic as our forebears have for several hundred years now.

    The situation with the public sector unions only got this way because gutless, dishonest elected officials allowed it to. It was easier to give in, take the campaign money, jobs for that one useless brother-in-law and allow the problem to fester. We got gutless, dishonest elected officials because all too many of us are not involved. We do not work the elections, scope out candidates, pay attention to local elections and offices.

    Well the Left, the unions, the agitators sure stepped up for their side. The fight-be it political or otherwise will be hard, nasty and viscous–so step up now. Too tired, too busy? Have a demanding job? Do it anyway. And if push comes to shove be prepared to shove back defending home and hearth.
    ===
    . Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.

    The Crisis
    Thomas Paine

    December 23, 1776

  18. #18
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 am, letget said:

    Parents might want to check to see if their kids are being taught this in school. Home school if possible, people.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/socialist-mantra-hidden-in-grade-school-chants/
    L

  19. #19
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 am, CJ said:

    The “good” news is that not all children are subjected to indoctrination. Why, 25% of Milwaukee public school teachers send their kids to private schools!

  20. #20
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    It’s sure hard to dislodge this socialist tick overload from the school system.
    ***
    But it looks like the Wisconsin Governor and others have found a really big can of tick and flee (sic) remover. Keep spraying until they’re all gone.
    ***
    Or use the President Ronald Reagan nuclear PATCO remedy. It worked quite well long ago.
    ***
    A bunch of socialist teachers in FUNEMPLOYMENT can really learn how to agitate–while eating a healthy Raman Soup diet forever.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  21. #21
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Michelle,
    You present excellent points, but I wish you would go that last yard…
    in your prior post, you said:

    In 2009, I noted that Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals was a featured item on the National Education Association reading list.

    I reminded you of Weather Underground terrorist and FOO (Friend of Obama) Bill Ayers’ 2006 speech at the World Economic Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, in which he declared education “the motor-force of revolution” while singing dictator Hugo Chavez’s praises.

    This blog has documented the radical activism of President Obama’s White House Teaching Fellows; the overzealousness of public school educators who have turned classrooms into Obama campaign offices; the influence of the left-wing social justice crusaders of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge on Team Obama

    Michelle, you understand how dangerous Soetoto/Obama and his FOO are.

    You understand that anything “Annenberg” is likely to be part of “Team Obama”.

    So, why do you trust the COLB that was produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago, was never authenticated by the state of Hawaii, but rather shown to two FOO from ANNENBERG Political “Fact Check”?!

    Why don’t you seem to care that Dr. Fukino was not willing to say “Obama was born in Hawaii” until the U.S. House of Representatives said that FIRST (via their vote in favor of H.Res.593 which contained the phrase “Obama was born in Hawaii”)? Not a single one of the Representatives who voted in favor of H.Res.593 ever inspected a birth certificate from Hawaii. Instead, they “outsourced” that and accepted the opinion of the FOO at ANNENBERG Political “Fact Check”!

    The U.S. House of Representatives became “witnesses” to Obama’s birth, and H.Res.593 and Nancy Pelosi’s DNC certification were used to make the claims in Dr. Fukino’s second news release.

    Why do you scoff at and mock those of us who don’t trust Obama and his FOO?

    Why do you scoff at and mock those of us who don’t trust the fraudulent document produced by the Obama campaign, “verified” by FOO at ANNENBERG Political “Fact Check”, but not verified by the state of Hawaii?

    If H.Res.593 wasn’t the “trigger” for Dr. Fukino’s second news release, WHAT WAS? Do you think that it’s mere coincidence that Dr. Fukino’s first news release in October 2008 did not say “Obama was born in Hawaii”, and then months upon months pass, then mere hours after the passage of H.Res.593 she rushed to issue her second news release making that claim?

    What primary source, hard copy documentation for Barack Hussein Obama, sent directly from the state of Hawaii, has ever been inspected by any member of the U.S. Congress?

    What did those Senators and Representatives do to support and defend section 3 of the 20th amendment to the United States Constitution?

    WHO IS BARRY SOETORO?!?

  22. #22
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am, hawkeye54 said:

    We live in scary times.

    Scarier times are coming. Soon.

    Be prepared.

  23. #23
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 am, hawkeye54 said:

    We live in scary times.

    Scarier times are coming. Soon.

    Be prepared.

    We have lived too close to the edge. Pull back, cut back, stock up and prepare. Hopefully we won’t need to but I doubt it.
    ===
    Let Your Sidearm Be Like American Express:
    Don’t Leave Home Without It.

    And No-the police can not be counted on-it will get worse.

  24. #24
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Interesting article; I’ll bet none of you folks would support having Exxon pay federal taxes:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/26/main-street-tax-cheats/

  25. #25
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 am, prendad said:

    Those immortal and time-tested words are proven true again:
    “IF YOU ARE NOT TAKING FLAK, THEN YOU ARE NOT OVER THE TARGET”.
    It appears that we are right on target. Keep bombing.

  26. #26
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 am, mondamay said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Interesting article; I’ll bet none of you folks would support having Exxon pay federal taxes:

    Since it is impossible for a corporation to pay taxes without passing it on to their customers, I know I wouldn’t.

    My gas is quite high enough already, thank you.

  27. #27
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Questions for Michelle Malkin:

    1) Do you support and defend the Constitution of the United States?

    2) Do you honor the rule of law?

    3) Do you support the enforcement of current Immigration law?

    4) Do you know that the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 requires that:

    All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

    5) Is there any exception made in that law for any occupation, including President?

    6) Is Obama an employee, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States?

    7) Do you know whether or not Obama is in compliance with current Immigration law? Do you know whether or not Obama has completed a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, and if so, what documents he used as proof of his employment eligibility?

    8) Do you realize that the Form I-9 is very specific about what documents are acceptable?

    9) Do you realize that when Speaker Boehner said:

    “The state of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there,” Boehner said. “That’s good enough for me.”

    … he is (and you are) accepting as evidence something that is not accepted as evidence for a Form I-9?

    10) Do you agree that the President is not above the law, and that Obama should publicly release original, initial documentation, certified by the appropriate government agency, to meet the requirements of not only the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 but also the United States Constitution? I.E., that Obama himself must prove that he is not only a citizen, but a natural born citizen?

    11) Do you know that even if the “Obama birth narrative” is 100% true, Obama does not meet the Natural Law definition of “natural born citizen”?

    12) To what legal authority do you look for the definition of “natural born citizen”? Why do you believe that being a “native born citizen” is sufficient to be considered a “natural born citizen” under the requirements of the United States Constitution?

    13) Even if you have a demonstrably legal reason to believe that “native born citizen” is sufficient to be considered a “natural born citizen”, what evidence do you have that Obama is a “native born citizen”?

    14) Do you realize that the State of Hawaii (specifically, Dr. Fukino) did not say “Obama was born in Hawaii” until AFTER John Boehner and the rest of the House voted in favor of House of Representatives Resolution 593 which contained the words “Obama was born in Hawaii”?

    The irony is that the House did not rely on a document from Hawaii, but rather Hawaii relied on a document from the U.S. House voted for in Washington, D.C.!

    Then, Hawaii could use H.Res. 593 as prima facie evidence…

    Federal Rules of Evidence
    Rule 902. Self-authentication

    (10) Presumptions under Acts of Congress. Any signature, document, or other matter declared by Act of Congress to be presumptively or prima facie genuine or authentic.

    15) Michelle, don’t you think this deserves a little investigation? At a minimum, a little application of Ronald Reagan’s “Trust, but verify”?

    Why is it “tin-foil hat” thinking to expect our Representatives and Senators to support and defend Article II Section 1 and the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution? Is it crazy to expect that at least one of them would “Trust, but verify” the vital records on file in Hawaii for Barack Hussein Obama, and, once verified, consider whether or not that qualifies him as a “natural born citizen” as intended by our Founders?

  28. #28
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:38 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The most successful application of Alinsky is the complete cowing of everyone regarding The Usurper’s ineligibility.

    Who is Barry Soetoro?

    Combine the legal requirements of:

    1) Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution

    2) Section 3 of the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    3) The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986:

    All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

    … and it is clear that Obama and Biden are legally required to produce hard copy documentation of not only their

    eligibility to work in the United states

    but also their

    eligibility to hold the office of President

    And Congress has the legal responsibility to ensure that the President and Vice President have qualified.

  29. #29
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am, happy2behere said:

    OK Pill, you made your point. Now could you please stop hijacking every thread with the same theme? Even if I agreed with you, I’m still skipping over your comments because they are too repetitive and have become a waste of time.

    Now back to the topic…

    The slogans above are vacuous. What they really mean is, I have a right to your pocketbook and if you don’t like it, I’ll call you a facist.

  30. #30
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Michelle Malkin said:

    The goals of the teachers union machine are not academic excellence, professional development and fairness. As former NEA official John Lloyd explained it: “You cannot possibly understand NEA without understanding Saul Alinsky. If you want to understand NEA, go to the library and get ‘Rules for Radicals.’”

    The goals are student indoctrination, social upheaval and perpetual agitation in pursuit of bigger government and spending without restraint. No wonder the signature “solidarity” color of the teachers union protests this month is red.

    Correct.

    And Obama was not only a student of Alinsky methods…

    In Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru.

    … but also a teacher of Alinsky methods…

    For several years, Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method. Also, beginning in the mid-1980s, Obama worked with ACORN, the Alinskyite grassroots political organization that grew out of George Wiley’s National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO).

  31. #31
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    RedPill,
    Alinsky trumps all.
    Mockery works.

  32. #32
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am, happy2behere said:

    Now back to the topic…

    The topic is saving our country.

  33. #33
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am, Floridarunner said:

    Dude. I just want a job…tired enough of school as it is.

  34. #34
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Since it is impossible for a corporation to pay taxes without passing it on to their customers, I know I wouldn’t.

    I would prefer corporations such as Exxon not be hindered by burdensome, punitive, and often confusing government regulations, expand operations in the USA and be in a position to hire more american citizens who then can be added to the payroll tax rolls, which is the most efficient way for corps. to be taxed.

  35. #35
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    happy2behere,
    Don’t follow this link to a post I wrote on October 25, 2008…

    Ayers is a Violent, Revolutionary Communist.
    What is Obama?

  36. #36
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:48 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    RedPill,
    Michelle has her reasons as do Glenn Beck, and the rest. The way Glenn went after “birthers” (aka Constitutionalists), I think he was threatened or something. It goes against everything he says about do your own homework, make up your own mind. I did and came to the conclusion that Owebowmao is not eligible and many know it and are afraid to say anything. Something other than fear of ridicule is at work here.

  37. #37
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    In the front matter of Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky wrote an acknowledgment to Lucifer.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    What does it say about Barack Obama that he was both a student of, and teacher of, Alinsky’s radical, Satanic methods?

    And what about Obama’s totally unBiblical concept of “collective salvation”?

  38. #38
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Educate, Indoctrinate, Collaborate, Agitate, Aggravate, Attack, Destroy.

    That pretty much completes the leftist cycle and plan of action advancing to each successive stage until the point where they succeed or are stopped.

  39. #39
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am, DanMan said:

    I know for a fact the kids are being indoctrinated and I use my friend’s now 14 year old as the guage. I have related how the very bright lad feels quite comfortable spouting the meme that humans are destroying the planet and how I showed him an aerial picture of my house as it sat on the bald Gulf Plains west of Houston in 1956 compared to a current aerial that shows a carpet of lush thick trees surrounded by the evidence of human development. He was amazed back at the time.

    This past weekend as the gang hung out around a firepit in the backyard he again went on about the carbon spewing pollution that was killing us.

    Shame they have to have their childhood taken from them to forward a lie from the left.

  40. #40
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 am, LanMandragoran said:

    Perhaps all of these teachers unions should rally under one banner that speaks closer to the truth of their beliefs and social background: “Soviets for Students!”

    Indeed.

    The Convention carried out various measures. It voted to dissolve the Communist Political Association and to re-establish the Communist Party. It voted to re-dedicate itself to its revolutionary task of establishing a Soviet America. It voted to intensify Marxist-Leninist education from the leaders down to the lowliest member. It voted to oust Browder as leader. It voted to return to the use of the word “comrade.”

    –From Chapter 13 of “School of Darkness”
    by Bella V. Dodd, Ex-Communist

  41. #41
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:59 am, AlohaGuy said:

    This past weekend as the gang hung out around a firepit in the backyard he again went on about the carbon spewing pollution that was killing us.

    Don’t let him eat the ribs.

  42. #42
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm, John Deaux said:

    Apparently ILMC has never heard of double taxation.

    There’s a sticker on our local gas pumps that states the price includes 38 cents in federal, state, and local taxes. Apparently ILMC is okay with the government taking more than 10%of the price for its purposes, but not with Exxon making 7% for doing all the work.

  43. #43
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I am a birther anyway–what is the problem? I have had to provide my birth certificate many times in my life and I have never even been to Kenya–or is that Keynesian? When I received my commission and National Security Background Check I needed not only my birth certificate but my parents. But then my parents were married to each other–that might be an issue with HeWhoWonOne–but that is my view of most liberals -who is your daddy?

    I am not a Keynesian–I was born in Arizona!

  44. #44
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm, Darthnoob said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    Interesting article; I’ll bet none of you folks would support having Exxon pay federal taxes:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/26/main-street-tax-cheats/

    YAWN

  45. #45
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm, Roland said:

    Something other than fear of ridicule is at work here.

    Nope. Beck and others like him just think it is obvious Obama was born in Hawaii and that it is clear the Supreme Court will not intervene and try to remove a sitting President on the basis he was not eligible simply because his father was not a citizen, something the voters all knew when they voted for him.

  46. #46
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    ILoveMySocialism said:

    Interesting article; I’ll bet none of you folks would support having Exxon pay federal taxes:

    Hey, putz! Business has a tax burden, but they don’t pay taxes. The consumers pay their taxes for them.

    All taxes are just a cost to a business. When a company incurs a cost it has the choice of increasing prices or cutting other costs. Generally, prices go up but many businesses do the right thing; they review their spending and make cuts there. Unlike socialists that just spend and spend and spend.

    These costs are passed on to their customers, who pass those costs on to their customers and so on. Until the final consumer pays all of those costs and taxes.

    I suggest you read this book by Thomas Sowell about economics. You may actually learn about freedom, liberty, and opportunity.

  47. #47
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm, sidewinder said:

    Thanks guys…I may be discouraged with the direction the USA is headed in but it is fantastic to know we have real patriots who love her as much as I do. I will stand on the front lines with you any day. God Bless You.

  48. #48
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm, mondamay said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am, DanMan said: I have related how the very bright lad feels quite comfortable spouting the meme that humans are destroying the planet …he again went on about the carbon spewing pollution that was killing us.

    Which is why children should be seen and not heard. :razz:

  49. #49
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm, letget said:

    It seems the states are dealing with the eligible issue. I believe eleven states, I believe that was the last number I read, have passed or are going to pass any person running for president or vp must show they are eligible in order to get on the ballots in the states. Let the states do what the courts don’t seem to want to tackle.
    L

  50. #50
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Ilovemycountry said:
    I can see you got tired of Singing “Stop in the name of Love” dressed as a Hobbit in front of the local Bath House. Did not make any money?

  51. #51
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Nope. Beck and others like him just think it is obvious Obama was born in Hawaii

    A JPEG of unknown provenance that could be a forgery (HI has never authenticated), does not make it obvious, particularly when coupled with the knowledge that HI regularly issued COLB’s to people not born there. No one can say with any certainty where he was born without primary documents.

    that it is clear the Supreme Court will not intervene and try to remove a sitting President

    They are dodging the questions, since FL 2000, they do not want to get involved in anything remotely political.

  52. #52
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm, stillontheroad said:
    Ilovemycountry said:
    I can see you got tired of Singing “Stop in the name of Love” dressed as a Hobbit in front of the local Bath House. Did not make any money?

    Charlie Sheen posts on here?

  53. #53
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, marco said:

    In college years ago a professor advised me against the teaching profession thusly: “Those who Can; Do. Those who Can’t; Teach. Those who can’t Teach, teach teachers!” The guy was a perceptive genius. Right then, right today.

  54. #54
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm, stillontheroad said:

    stillontheroad said:
    Actually I think he/she/it may be a Noodles Individual I saw on Beck last night -

  55. #55
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm, txvet2 said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Interesting article; I’ll bet none of you folks would support having Exxon pay federal taxes

    Extract from XOM financials (from Yahoo Finance):

    Income Before Tax 34,777,000 81,750,000 70,474,000
    Income Tax Expense 15,119,000 36,530,000 29,864,000

  56. #56
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm, Roland said:

    Beck and others like him just think it is obvious Obama was born in Hawaii

    It’s obvious that his birth was reported in Hawaii…
    and that that report was “filed by Registrar”,
    notaccepted by Registrar”.

    Where’s the proof of his specific birth location?

    If the “Obama birth narrative” is 100% true, then there would be a long-form birth certificate proving he was born at Kapiolani Medical Center.

    The contrapositive is that if there is no long-form birth certificate proving he was born at Kapiolani Medical Center, then the “Obama birth narrative” is not 100% true.

    Governor Abercrombie said he was going to put this all to rest… and then found that there isn’t a long-form birth certificate in Hawaii.

    Sure, Grandma Dunham reported the birth, but there were no other witnesses… until the 111th Congress made themselves witnesses via H.Res.593 and S.Res.225.

  57. #57
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    . I will stand on the front lines with you any day. God Bless You.

    God Bless America

    We Shall Overcome The Commies!

    Who is Barry Soetoro?

  58. #58
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm, Roland said:

    They are dodging the questions, since FL 2000, they do not want to get involved in anything remotely political.

    Since the founding they have usually tried to avoid explosive political situations. If they could have avoided it in Florida in 2000, they would have done so, but time was running out.

    States setting up proof of eligibility requirements is the only way this will be resolved. That is the smart way to force Obama to show real proof, since the courts won’t force him under the current rules.

  59. #59
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    Dear ILMCooties:

    Margaret Thatcher once said something WAAAYYYY back before you moved into your parents’ basement, that has since become standardized into this saying:
    “The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” Then that government fails. BUT, if you think you can run a country better, please feel free to move there. The USA is, after all, still a free country, especially if you want to leave it.

  60. #60
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm, RedMike said:

    Redpill, I agree,so many have sold their soul to let this ursuper in chief remain in office,I would like to know WHY?

  61. #61
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm, Roland said:
    Something other than fear of ridicule is at work here.
    Nope. Beck and others like him just think it is obvious Obama was born in Hawaii and that it is clear the Supreme Court will not intervene and try to remove a sitting President on the basis he was not eligible simply because his father was not a citizen, something the voters all knew when they voted for him.

    Then they’ve all abdicated their oaths to the Constitution. This Grand Experiment is over. This world will implode sooner than later. Just sayin is all.

  62. #62
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm, RedMike said:
    Redpill, I agree,so many have sold their soul to let this ursuper in chief remain in office,I would like to know WHY?

    There are over 6 Billion people on the planet.

    Satan has to outsource.

  63. #63
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm, Roland said:

    Then they’ve all abdicated their oaths to the Constitution.

    Who has? The Court? Where in the Constitution does it explicitly say the Court has the power and obligation to remove the sitting President because he is not eligible?

    The rules about what proof was supposed to be provided were never made explicit enough. Heck, the rules themselves, like exactly what is a natural born citizen, were never made explicit enough.

    Hopefully, enough states are fixing that oversight now.

  64. #64
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    RedPill, some links for you below, second link, look for additional links in comments

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2668269/posts#comment

  65. #65
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Exxon is a major part of my portfolio–LEAVE IT ALONE.

    God Bless America, the DOW and S&P 500, but not the Blue states.

  66. #66
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm, sbw999 said:

    Battling entrenched corruption of this magnitude seems impossible, but I am holding out hope. Is there ANYTHING that is dem or liberal that isn’t covered with the stench of corruption, collusion or the “fix”. Good grief, this is all so disgusting.

  67. #67
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm, rightisright said:

    Obama was born in Hawaii and that it is clear the Supreme Court will not intervene and try to remove a sitting President on the basis he was not eligible simply because his father was not a citizen,…

    In that case, the court in negligent in it’s duty, this is not such a trivia matter as to say “oh, well we don’t want to cause trouble with a minority group or the impostor’s sheeple.” is it?

    something the voters all knew when they voted for him.

    I honestly hope, your assumption is wrong there. All though I wouldn’t be surprised with all the fence sitters in this country.

  68. #68
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    OT:

    Reports have come from Frankfurt, Germany this morning about an attack on a bus filled with American soldiers by a lone gunman.

    Two people have died after a gunman opened fire on a bus carrying American soldiers at Frankfurt airport, police say.

    The driver of the bus and a US soldier were reportedly killed, while two others were seriously injured.

    The BBC also reports that the gunman came from Kosovo:
    A 21-year-old suspect from Kosovo is said to have been arrested after the shooting. in front of Terminal 2 at Europe’s second-biggest airport.
    Police have told German media it is not clear if it was a terrorist attack.</blockquote>

    Serbian Muslim perhaps? Nah, couldn’t be a terrorist.

  69. #69
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    There were just under 5 hours between the chicken (H.Res.593)
    and the egg (Dr. Fukino’s second News Release).

    On July 27, 2009, the vote on House Resolution 593 came at 6:55pm EDT (12:55pm HST).

    And on that same day, Dr. Fukino’s second News Release was first made public in a PDF attachment in an email sent to MissTickly at 11:45pm EDT (5:45pm HST).

  70. #70
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 9:44 am, Bruce said:

    At least 20 years ago – when my son was in grade school – I began calling public schools “indoctrination camps”, which is exactly what they are. People called me crazy. How many now agree with me?

    I agree with you. And it’s not just grade school…

    Forced Communist Indoctrination on College Campus

  71. #71
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Flashback:

    Video: Orwell at Delaware
    posted at 4:37 pm on April 25, 2009 by Allahpundit

    After you watch that video, realize where that indoctrination program comes from…

    It is the same as the Program of the Communist Party USA, which mentions variations on the word “race” (racial, racism, racist) 124 times and variations on the word “oppress” (oppression, oppressed) 116 times and carries the same theme: that white male capitalists are racist oppressors and the system (capitalism) must be dismantled.

    Communist Bill Ayers said, “education is the motor-force of revolution“.

    It’s no surprise then that so many Communists are educators, indoctrinating today’s youth.

  72. #72
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:24 pm, Red Kat said:

    It definitely is becoming scary times. The amount of money that all forms of government are spending on pensions is now a greater percentage of their budgets. This will get uglier before is it gets better. It will not be long before we see unions getting all Armageddon on local governments.

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/city-290377-employees-million.html

  73. #73
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    The Rooster, and then he smoked a cigarette.

  74. #74
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 am, steamjetKC135 said:

    Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis once said “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.”

    Let’s shine some sunlight on the “Obama birth narrative”

    … and remember the words of John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court:

    Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.

    “natural born Citizen” = born a citizen by Natural Law =

    those born in the country, of parents who are citizens

  75. #75
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Rooster, and then he smoked a cigarette.

    :lol:

  76. #76
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm, mondamay said:

    I think the SCOTUS has avoided the issue because they don’t know what they would do if he refused to submit to the ruling.

    I think the states are going to have to take up the eligibility issue. AZ has been working on that (making candidates prove eligibility prior to being on the ballot), and maybe we can all get something done in our states before 2012.

  77. #77
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Bad Hangfire, bad.

  78. #78
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    A JPEG of unknown provenance that could be a forgery (HI has never authenticated), does not make it obvious, particularly when coupled with the knowledge that HI regularly issued COLB’s to people not born there.

    Exactly. HI hands out their Certification of Live Birth like they’re dollar-off coupons from the Sunday paper. Obama’s is proof of only that he was born alive. Not born in HI.

    Sure, Grandma Dunham reported the birth, but there were no other witnesses…

    If a grandmother living in Idaho calls her local paper to say her grandchild was born to her daughter living in Brazil, that is not proof the grandchild was born in Idaho. For all we know, Grandma Dunham could only afford a small notice and didn’t bother saying the birth took place out of state. I can’t believe the knuckle-dragging apologists even brought up the birth announcement.

  79. #79
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm, letget said:

    It seems the states are dealing with the eligible issue. I believe eleven states, I believe that was the last number I read, have passed or are going to pass any person running for president or vp must show they are eligible in order to get on the ballots in the states. Let the states do what the courts don’t seem to want to tackle.
    L

    Attorney Leo Donofrio:

    BEWARE: Arizona Senate Bill 1308 Defines Dual Citizens As Natural Born Citizens.

  80. #80
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm, mondamay said:

    The newspaper announcement isn’t any kind of proof, anyway, regardless of your opinion on the issue.

    Try using that on your I-9…

  81. #81
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Speaking of first Chief Justice John Jay, here is attorney Leo Donofrio’s newest post:

    The Jay Treaty Strongly Indicates That
    Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President.

  82. #82
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm, mondamay said:

    The newspaper announcement isn’t any kind of proof, anyway, regardless of your opinion on the issue.

    Try using that on your I-9…

    EXACTLY!

    No one should accept a “document” that is not accepted by the I-9 form!

    A URL to a .JPG image is not “acceptable documentation”.

    A newspaper birth announcement is not “acceptable documentation”.

    ———
    We are a Republic, ruled by the Rule of Law.
    We are talking about the Constitution and current Immigration Law!

    I repeat what I said earlier:

    Combine the legal requirements of:

    1) Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution

    2) Section 3 of the 20th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    3) The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986:

    All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

    … and it is clear that Obama and Biden are legally required to produce hard copy documentation of not only their

    eligibility to work in the United states

    but also their

    eligibility to hold the office of President

    And Congress has the legal responsibility to ensure that the President and Vice President have qualified.

  83. #83
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm, mondamay said:
    The newspaper announcement isn’t any kind of proof, anyway, regardless of your opinion on the issue.

    Try using that on your I-9…

    That’s the Chinese Menu Form for new hires.

    Two from column A or one each from column B and C.

  84. #84
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:47 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Teachers’ Unions 101: “A” is for “agitation”

    The “Agitator in Chief” is Barack Hussein Obama (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro).

    Even if you think so-called “birthers” are crazy, don’t you agree with the philosophy of President Ronald Reagan?

    Trust, but verify

  85. #85
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Forced Communist Indoctrination on College Campus

    That’s been going on for a long time. Communists began openly influencing college caricula at least since the late 60s. My mother went back to college after we kids were all grown and earned her BA at UCLA, graduating in 1971. Angela Davis was an honored guest lecturer at an event my mom was required to attend.

  86. #86
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm, happy2behere said:

    So the topic again, is what? OH! Teacher’s Unions 101: “A” is for “Agitation?” Who knew? Reading this thread you’d think it was about a birth certificate or lack thereof.

  87. #87
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:04 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm, happy2behere said:
    So the topic again, is what? OH! Teacher’s Unions 101: “A” is for “Agitation?” Who knew? Reading this thread you’d think it was about a birth certificate or lack thereof.

    Good catch, Hap.

  88. #88
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:07 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, Hangfire said:

    That’s the Chinese Menu Form for new hires.

    Correct. And everyone is required to fill out that form and provide the acceptable documentation when they start a new job. Everyone. No exceptions, not even for the job of President.

    Two from column A or one each from column B and C.

    Correct. But there is only one document there that can prove someone was born in the U.S. and who their parents were…

    Original or certified copy of birth certificate issued by a State, county, municipal authority, or territory of the United States bearing an official seal

    No member of Congress has ever inspected such a document for Barack Hussein Obama II or Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., even though the 20th Amendment requires them to ensure that the President-elect and Vice President-elect “have qualified”.

  89. #89
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Thank you, happy2. Back to our regularly scheduled topic…

    WI budget repair bill…elimination of forced public union dues…blah, blah, blah…main cause for organizing protests? Blah, blah, repeating myself, blah.

  90. #90
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    If Congress would uphold their Constitutional duty,
    they could remove the usurper “Agitator in Chief”.

    Step 1: Trust, but verify, the “Obama birth narrative”.

    Step 2a: If 100% true, then Obama was born a British subject.

    Step 2b: If not 100% true, then Obama is guilty of “high crimes” (perjury, forgery, obstruction of justice, etc.), and can be removed by impeachment even if he is a natural born citizen (born on U.S. soil to two U.S. Citizen parents).

  91. #91
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    A passport establishes that you are a U.S. Citizen,
    but it does not establish that you are a natural born U.S. citizen.

    Sidebar Question: Has Barry ever held any U.S. Passport other than a Diplomatic Passport?

  92. #92
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm, happy2behere said:
    So the topic again, is what? OH! Teacher’s Unions 101: “A” is for “Agitation?” Who knew? Reading this thread you’d think it was about a birth certificate or lack thereof.

    ,

    Illegitimate President?

    No big deal…..

  93. #93
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Back to our regularly scheduled topic…

    The topic is what Alinsky agitators are doing to this country.

    It matters that one of them has risen all the way to the Presidency of the United States, and filled his administration with “Czars”.

    It matters if this Alinsky radical is even Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President.

    It matters if our Congress supports and defends the Constution of the United States and current immigration law.

  94. #94
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm, mondamay said:

    Wait a sec…
    Biden’s middle name is “Robinette”?

    If anyone needs me, I’ll be laughing uncontrollably for a while.

    :lol:

  95. #95
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm, Roland said:

    It matters if this Alinsky radical is even Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President.

    No. It doesn’t matter. Not one bit. Really.

    Only what can actually make a difference matters. Only what can change things matters.

  96. #96
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:24 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Heck, the rules themselves, like exactly what is a natural born citizen, were never made explicit enough.

    Then why the citizen distinction between the Presidency and the Senate or House? It’s perfectly clear except to those that want to muddy the waters.

  97. #97
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:25 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Posted in: Education,SEIU,Unions,Wisconsin

    …Alinsky, Birth Certificate, Constitution, Immigration…

  98. #98
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    My kind of Rooster…heh.

  99. #99
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 3:08 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On March 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm, mondamay said:
    Wait a sec…

    Biden’s middle name is “Robinette”?

    If anyone needs me, I’ll be laughing uncontrollably for a while.

    :lol:

    Heh:

    Delaware voters say no to Joe Biden — for name of school

    And CO2 Producer, that fits in the “Education” category ;-)

  100. #100
    On March 2nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm, Adkhiker said:

    The need for more home schooling or affordable private schooling is on the rise – just not rising fast enough.

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