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1. #101
   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:23 pm, forest said:

   “Collective bargaining” is extortion and collusion. It’s all they know. Government employee unions are a form of organized crime.

2. #102
   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:32 pm, Hiraghm said:

   On March 12th, 2011 at 3:56 pm, Flyoverman said:

   Firstly, should there be any attempt by Obama to try to cancel the 2012 elections,

   Who dreams this stuff up?

   We had a Prsidential campaign and election in the middle of the Civil War. Get real folks.

   We’ve never had a civil war, so that makes no sense. There was an election in the United States when they were at war with the Confederate States, but we’ve had Presidential campaigns and elections throughout many wars, including WWI and WWII.

3. #103
   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:38 pm, right_on said:

   In Portland, Or, the Chief of Police has told her troops roe have changed, “cops cannot fire until fired upon”…

   Policemen are not required to follow an unlawful order. No Chief of Police can arbitrarily change his department’s Rules of Engagement (if any.) The discharge of one’s weapon is predicated on hard and fast rules. You are faced with an armed subject; you feel your life, or the lives of others are at risk; you are already engaged in combat. This is, and always has been, written in stone!

   No sworn law enforcement professional would put his/her troops at risk like this. If it is true, this person has no business being a C.O.P. anywhere, much less a police officer. My opinion is, that this is a clear case of the Peter Principle in action.

   If it is true, I’d risk losing my job and having to go to court, over risking my life in a heartbeat! This Chief should be sacked!

4. #104
   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:57 pm, Flyoverman said:

   We’ve never had a civil war, so that makes no sense.

   Since my family tree had participants who fought under both flags, I can pretty much call it a civil war.

   Also,, the United States of America never recognized the Confereacy. It was never a country as far as the winners were concerned. And as you know winners get to write the history books. Thus, the Civil War.

5. #105
   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm, Flyoverman said:

   On March 12th, 2011 at 4:58 pm, PatriotGal2257 said:

   That is unfortuante. It would be an interesting read. If you do find it, please share. Thanks!

6. #106
   On March 12th, 2011 at 6:44 pm, happyscrapper said:

   On March 12th, 2011 at 5:32 pm, Hiraghm said:
   We’ve never had a civil war, so that makes no sense.

   My husband is a Civil War buff. He has hundreds of books about the Civil War. I have ancestors who fought in the Civil War. Now you tell me there was no Civil War. Yikes! I’m so confused. Please clarify so I can break the news to my husband. He will be crushed.

7. #107
   On March 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm, zorro said:

   Typical socialist union democrap goons.

8. #108
   On March 12th, 2011 at 7:52 pm, swede said:

   Hyman Roth: What I am saying is, we have now what we have always needed, real partnership with the government.

9. #109
   On March 12th, 2011 at 8:04 pm, ill_in_illinois said:

   As a trade union member I am totally disgusted with this thuggery and extortion. But the cop and firefighter unions teaming up with the SEIU and Trumpka’s homeboys is despicable. Get back in session and revoke their bargaining rights too, they are an insult to the uniform.

10. #110
    On March 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    ill_in_illinois,

    Thank you ! It`s not easy to stand and speak out against your own (ish) !

11. #111
    On March 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm, Jinxed said:

    In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association [...]

    If I wanted to discuss the matter further, I would be contacting the Wisconsin State Attorney General, J. B. Van Hollen. He’s not a Democrat, so it might actually go somewhere.

12. #112
    On March 12th, 2011 at 9:28 pm, steamjetKC135 said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 8:04 pm, ill_in_illinois said:
    As a trade union member I am totally disgusted with this thuggery and extortion. But the cop and firefighter unions teaming up with the SEIU and Trumpka’s homeboys is despicable. Get back in session and revoke their bargaining rights too, they are an insult to the uniform.

    #113On March 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm, SignPainterGuy said:
    ill_in_illinois,

    Thank you ! It`s not easy to stand and speak out against your own (ish) !

    Let me chime in against “my own” too. I have been a cop for 24 years and have hated every minute of belonging to the union. Aside from the necessary evil of needing protection/representation from lawsuits I wouldn’t be a member and you can take that to the bank.

    I am very disturbed at the language used in the letter, and whoever this jackwagon Union guy is he is not professional and certainly doesn’t represent the good guys in law enforcement.

13. #113
    On March 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm, Mister P said:

    FlyoverMan, do you really think it would be beyond Obama to declare a state of emergency and “suspend” any election? The one thing I think that would stop him is that huge ego that can’t believe people really wouldn’t want him. But the Left have NO intention of ever giving up power. This is not George Washington or Abraham Lincoln we are dealing with.

14. #114
    On March 12th, 2011 at 10:13 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 9:28 pm, steamjetKC135 said:

    Let me chime in against “my own” too. I have been a cop for 24 years and have hated every minute of belonging to the union. Aside from the necessary evil of needing protection/representation from lawsuits I wouldn’t be a member and you can take that to the bank.

    Let me start with, I thank you for your service as well. I post this in seeking information. These lawsuits you speak of that the union protecting you from are filed by who ?

15. #115
    On March 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm, ChapBix said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm, Mister P said:

    In a state of national emergency, and who truly thinks Obama would not call one if the situation warranted it or was even remotely close to it, would elections be held? Some on here have said elections would go on. Unlike the 1860s when the nation had Abraham Lincoln at the helm, we now have a Marxist in the WH. If there is the economic meltdown that is predicted by some folks, would that not be the impetus for suspending elections? How long do you would think it would be before elections were held again with Barry Soetoro in the WH?

    Who is Barry Soetoro?

16. #116
    On March 12th, 2011 at 11:04 pm, Hangfire said:

    Fire them all.

    Apparently the Police aren’t needed in Wisconsin. They can’t even stop hooligans from tearing up the Capitol building in Madison.

17. #117
    On March 12th, 2011 at 11:21 pm, vinny said:

    This story needs much more media spotlight. Extortion charges seem undeniable and yet how do you charge the police department with extortion??? Can anyone ask DOJ to get involved? Oh right Holder is doing the same crap on the Federal level. Why don’t our new congressmen make some noise about it. This story should go viral.

18. #118
    On March 12th, 2011 at 11:33 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 11:21 pm, vinny said:
    … Why don’t our new congressmen make some noise about it. This story should go viral.

    Right after …

    Any vote for the continuing resolution with Obamacare in it is a vote for Obamacare.

19. #119
    On March 13th, 2011 at 12:10 am, Republicanvet said:

    Could one ask whether these businesses, if boycotted, might have a less than professional response if they happen to have a fire? or some crime being committed on their premises?

    Why yes, I believe one could ask that. And believe it would happen…given the actions of the leftist unions so far.

20. #120
    On March 13th, 2011 at 12:23 am, Republicanvet said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 9:28 pm, steamjetKC135 said:

    I am very disturbed at the language used in the letter, and whoever this jackwagon Union guy is he is not professional and certainly doesn’t represent the good guys in law enforcement.

    Actually, I think you could say the same thing about those who signed it.

    One could assume they read and understood what they were signing, and signed it anyway.

21. #121
    On March 13th, 2011 at 3:59 am, mattm said:

    Coming form multiple Police and Fire Fighter unions, they are essentially saying, as their job is to respond to emergency calls, “sure you can call 911 if you business is on fire or begin robbed, but we may or may not show up quickly or investigate fully unless you publicly support us.”

    Time to get rid of unions in the public sector.

22. #122
    On March 13th, 2011 at 6:13 am, cicerokid said:

    Hoorah! We have names, and signatures!

    The quote was, I believe we seek is: “You can take your thumb out of my arse anytime now, Carmine”.

23. #123
    On March 13th, 2011 at 6:16 am, cicerokid said:

    Time to get rid of unions in the public sector.

    Im in Asia, so will not apologize for the double post as it is only 5 pm here….

    but thos emy thoughts just the same as i type this in pitch black brown-outness w/o electeeceeety

24. #124
    On March 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am, johnsteele said:

    Well, they’ve got names and signatures on what can only be seen as an extortion letter.

    Its time for the Wisconsin State Police to make some arrests on Extortion charges. That assumes the Wisconsin State Police aren’t in the union bag too. And then there’s the challenge of getting a prosecutor to charge them and a court to try them. I wonder how the Wisconsin Association of Judges or the Association of Wisconsin Prosecutors whatever their public employee unions are called feels about all this?

    BAN ALL PUBLIC UNIONS AND THE FAUX EMPLOYEE “ASSOCIATIONS”. all of them, NOW!

25. #125
    On March 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am, Savage24 said:

    I would think the RICO law could be used here appropriately. Unions and organized crime seem to work hand in hand.

26. #126
    On March 13th, 2011 at 10:21 am, rightisright said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 5:38 pm, right_on said:

    I stand corrected, after a shooting in Portland, the cop haters are out in force protesting, one cop in a recent shooting was found to have been a justified in the shooting by a grand jury. Jessie (Jessie_hi-jack Jackson showed up to demonstrate).The cop was later dismissed by the Mayor(the mayor is a freak pedophile, not my opinion, it’s true, he was caught with a minor male).
    My comment about ROE, came from a liberal judge that seems to feel the same rules should apply to police officers as those in the military.

    That should keep everybody safe, should it not? /sar

    Liberalism is a disease and it does kill.

27. #127
    On March 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am, Massasoit said:

    Coming form multiple Police and Fire Fighter unions, they are essentially saying, as their job is to respond to emergency calls, “sure you can call 911 if you business is on fire or begin robbed, but we may or may not show up quickly or investigate fully unless you publicly support us.”
    Time to get rid of unions in the public sector.

    Don’t believe that for a second. Union solidarity means signing with the aggrieved, not abdicating your core principles. Firefighters will not slow their response, nor pick and choose who they assist. The membership would never allow it.

28. #128
    On March 13th, 2011 at 12:03 pm, JHSII said:

    Sorry, Massasoit. In the little town my grandmother used to live in, there was an annual fund for firefighters that everyone was asked to donate to. There was one guy who didn’t have enough money to donate.
    When his house caught on fire, the firefighters simply showed up and watched it burn to the ground. They didn’t even try. He lost everything.
    But, when a house months later caught fire a bit further from the fire station, they arrived within minutes and had the fire out in short order.

    Don’t go there.

29. #129
    On March 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm, happyscrapper said:

    MASSASOIT…WHY DID YOU CHOOSE YOUR NAME? I NEED TO KNOW!! PLEASE!! I AM DESCENDED FROM MASSASOIT THROUGH HIS SON WAMSUTTA (ALEXANDER).

30. #130
    On March 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm, PatriotGal2257 said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 5:59 pm, Flyoverman said:
    That is unfortuante. It would be an interesting read. If you do find it, please share. Thanks!

    Hi, Flyoverman,

    Finally! I found the article I was referencing yesterday. I need to revise how I bookmark articles. It is one hell of an interesting read, though, especially since the author of the article penned this before the November 2010 elections. Hope you enjoy.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/rumors_of_a_coup.html

31. #131
    On March 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm, Peddler said:

    Anyone who thinks for one moment the police will show the same consideration for supporters of the governor are delusional. Once the responses are in and the list is made, you can bet those on the list of supporters for unions will receive preferential treatment from police and firefighters.

    Heaven help those who support Walker. They can call but response will be slow because the list will be checked before a dispatch is sent out. Guaranteed!

    If the wording of the letter does not constitute extortion and an attempt at a legalized protection racket, then nothing else does.

    Hopefully, the rank and file cops and firefighters are not part of this criminal scheme. However, if it is Madison, they probably are.

    If the citizens of America knew about this heinous attempt to extort, I believe it would shed a new light on just how low unions will go to achieve an ends to their means.

32. #132
    On March 13th, 2011 at 10:06 pm, AniMEL said:

    This crap is just one more reason why the IAFF doesn’t get a single red cent from me.

33. #133
    On March 13th, 2011 at 11:10 pm, steamjetKC135 said:

    These lawsuits you speak of that the union protecting you from are filed by who ?

    Let me start by saying that I have never personally been sued by a defendant, but I have been around the block enough to know it happens. I will start with the ones I have seen, most filed by arrestees:

    Misfeasance, Malfeasance, Nonfeasance, Unlawful discharge of a firearm, Brutality and Civil Rights violations just to name a few.

    You will frequently have your run of the mill internal affairs complaints that must be investigated and usually a Union Atty will represent you in disciplinary proceedings.

    Other than that, they’re pretty worthless, but like I said, a necessary evil in this line of business unfortunately.

34. #134
    On March 13th, 2011 at 11:34 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    steamjetKC135,

    I may be crazy here, but I would think any and all lawsuits filed against any officer by arrestees should be defend by the municipality/state/federal government in which they swear to protect not by a union.

    In reference to the IA compliants, basically you are saying that they will stick up for you and your job if you are caught doing something wrong.

    In the private sector I saw that in the UAW. A wildcat strike because some bozo got caught sleeping on the job. Wasn’t this guys first infraction of the rules.

    I say all public sector unions are bad period. And a very unnecessary evil that is nothing more than collusion and corruption funded by us the taxpayer.

35. #135
    On March 14th, 2011 at 6:36 am, steamjetKC135 said:

    OK,

    I wish it were that easy. Unfortunately many Officers are sued personally as well as the Cities that employ them. Call me crazy but I want to be defended by someone who has my best interest at heart, not their own. As far as IA complaints, you’re wrong. We have complaint forms in the lobby and online for anyone to pick up and fill out. And get this, you can do it anonymously and allege pretty much anything and it will be investigated. That’s not a comfortable feeling even if you have done nothing wrong. The Union is just kind of a check and balance structure for that kind of stuff. It’s just part of the way things are done.

    Take for instance the way my man was done in Boston (Harvard), definitely guilty until proved innocent. Happens all the time, and all he got outta that was a cheap beer with a couple of clowns.

36. #136
    On March 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am, John Deaux said:

    On March 12th, 2011 at 5:32 pm, Hiraghm said:
    We’ve never had a civil war, so that makes no sense.

    600,000 dead Americans beg to differ.

37. #137
    On March 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am, Twistin said:

    Coming from the COPS and the FIREFIGHTERS as it is,this is straight up extortion. It outta be a crime! Oh, it IS?

38. #138
    On March 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm, T-Bone said:

    Wow, a not so subtle threat from the police and fireman. If we don’t hear from you, then you must be our enemy and since Guv Walker has already ended the “peace” with the labor Unions, that is a non peaceful threat to people who don’t agree with them. Note, the recipient must act or be deemed an enemy.

    Is it true that those were Wisconsin residents protesting in the Capitol or are these Unions ready to lie to support their cause also?

    Will they burn my store down and shoot me as a looter when I try to put out the fire myself? Scary stuff.