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1. #101
   On March 20th, 2011 at 2:17 am, Hiraghm said:

   On March 20th, 2011 at 2:07 am, ParasiteHunter said:

   Where are the innocent civilian victims? I saw lots of rebel Libyans with guns and anti-aircraft batteries and RPGs.

   Those aren’t innocent civilian victims.

2. #102
   On March 20th, 2011 at 3:58 am, AlohaGuy said:

   Flyoverman said:

   Did they outsource this to the Luftwaffe?

   Let’s give them credit for getting Obama to fire off millions in cruise missiles. When they break for lunch, you’ll know why I love the French. Besides, their leader is far more conservative than Obama, they know where he was born, and he has a hot super-model wife.

3. #103
   On March 20th, 2011 at 8:36 am, Flyoverman said:

   On March 20th, 2011 at 3:58 am, AlohaGuy said:

   Let’s give them credit for getting Obama to fire off millions in cruise missiles.

   Sorry Aloha, I have no interest in this fight. Whoever ends up in charge in Lybia will hate us. So who cares? My choice is pick one of two tactics:

   1) Give support to both sides and let them shoot at each other for 20 years.

   2) Take all the friendly Lybians and put them on ships in the Med. Then bomb Lybia flat. Then sink the ships.

   The whole country is not worth the cost of a 5.56 mm round, much less an American life. There is nothing there that is in our national interest.

4. #104
   On March 20th, 2011 at 9:12 am, Flyoverman said:

   Point 2…..

   Could someone tell me what consultations Obama had with the Congress before our country was committed to this military effort in Lybia?

   GW Bush would have been torn apart by the Dems and the MSM. All I hear is crickets….. GOP response? crickets..

5. #105
   On March 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am, Flyoverman said:

   On March 20th, 2011 at 2:17 am, Hiraghm said:

   Those aren’t innocent civilian victims.

   There are no friendly civilians – John Rambo

   The Rambo Doctrine is relevant in this part of the world.

6. #106
   On March 20th, 2011 at 9:48 am, stillontheroad said:

   Lets see:

   Sock Puppet condemned the release of the Lockerbie bomber, in public, in private and under the cover of darkness – supported releasing the animal back to Libya for “Compassionate reasons”

   Sock Puppet openly states he would love to be president of a country like, China, because there he would not have all these problems doing what he would like to do and be.

   Lets see, Japan is trying to recover from a huge natural Disaster, The Middle East is in flames, Hamas is rocketing Israel, the economy is shot to hell and only going to get worse, unemployment is at least 18%, real numbers, and probably more, fuel prices going up, now we have the beginning of Military action and:

   Our Fearless Leader takes a Vacation.

7. #107
   On March 20th, 2011 at 9:51 am, stillontheroad said:

   Oh, I also actually heard on the news someone actually saying this is the Sock Puppets defining moment?? Defining moment for what, ultra dithering or hiding in corners till the requirements of any leadership go away?

8. #108
   On March 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am, Flyoverman said:

   On March 20th, 2011 at 9:51 am, stillontheroad said:

   Oh, I also actually heard on the news someone actually saying this is the Sock Puppets defining moment??

   Obama’s leadership style can be defined as, “There they go….. And I must hasten after them, for I am their leader.”

   Defining momment? He’d better hope not.

9. #109
   On March 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am, happy2behere said:

   Agree with #104. Where are the anti-war protestors? The capital mall demonstrations, the daily koz outrage?There was a 9/11 purpose to the war in Afganistan, and arguably a purpose in Iraq. But we have no business in Lybi

10. #110
    On March 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am, MarcoPolo said:

    On March 20th, 2011 at 3:58 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Let’s give (the French) credit for getting Obama to fire off millions in cruise missiles.

    That’s not what did it. Since the beginning, Obama has been calling for Qadaffi’s ouster. Letting the French take the first token shots was just Obama’s way of trying to pretend that the radical Muslims won’t see this as yet another war that the Americans started.

    Good luck with that.

11. #111
    On March 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am, MarcoPolo said:

    The Arab League withdraws support:

    http://bit.ly/hRBPN5

    Why in the world do we have to use our military when they have more money than most other nations in the world?

    Get us out of the Middle East already.

12. #112
    On March 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    Apparently Libya’s anti-aircraft missile systems are the antiquated Russian SA-5 systems. Big–hard to move and set up. Dangerous liquid fuel, lots of obsolete equipment needed to operate and maintain them. One very long range medium / high altitude capable missile in the air at a time. Big 500 pound warhead. And also carried a 25 kt. nuke warhead in Russia. And can be used as a ground / anti-ship missile if target coordinates are known.
    ***
    It’s a good thing that Krazy Kadaffi doesn’t have the much more capable Russki Patriotski–the SA-12 type systems. This morning’s news states that the stealth B2 bombers were used last night–supposedly they are “invisible” to modern microwave radars.
    ***
    During the President Clinton’s Yugoslavian fight only a few U.S. planes were lost–very good jamming against older radars. One of the planes lost was an F117 Stealth Fighter, another was Scott Grady’s ? non stealthy F16.
    ***
    They apparently were hit by the mobile tracked vehicle mounted Russki SA-6 Systems–which hide, move around at night, lie “doggo” until the planes are at short range, and then radiate and fire. I hope Krazy doesn’t have these types of systems. Remember how hard it was to find and destroy Saddam Hussein’s Scud launchers during the first Gulf War?
    ***
    More practical field testing on missiles vs. airplanes coming soon.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

13. #113
    On March 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm, Hiraghm said:

    On March 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am, MarcoPolo said:

    The Arab League withdraws support:

    http://bit.ly/hRBPN5

    Why in the world do we have to use our military when they have more money than most other nations in the world?

    Get us out of the Middle East already.

    See? People label me a nasty, selfish, mean-spirited person. That’s not true at all. I just learn from history, and try not to repeat it for the sake of feeling good and noble.

    The nasty, selfish, mean-spirited people are people like the Arab League, who would use us when can help them, and spit on us when it suits. Now, they will use the nasty, selfish, mean-spirited western powers in their rhetoric to unite the Arabs/Moslems against us.

    One of the things that supposedly set bin Laden off was that we had our boots defiling sacred Saudi soil, while we were there to rescue Kuwait from their fellow Arab/Moslems.

    Just learn from history, and stop being Charlie Brown. Lucy is a nasty, selfish, mean-spirited biatch, so when she offers to hold the football for Charlie to kick, he needs to come running up and… kick her in the head.

    Speaking metaphorically, of course.

14. #114
    On March 20th, 2011 at 12:27 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Btw, waaay off-topic, but I gotta get it off my chest.

    Last night I was playing an online game. There was an anniversary event in this one game zone (a zone commonly used by people for advancing their characters), and there were a hundred people or so taking part in the event. The game slowed to a crawl and was laggy.

    Those participating in the event kept telling other people to leave the zone for the sake of their event. They really couldn’t grasp the idea that other people, who would get no reward if/when these people completed the event, had as legitimate a right to use the zone as anyone else.

    They accused me, and others, of being selfish for not going away to reduce the slowing of the game. They argued that the fun of 200 was more important than the fun of 1.

    What I witnessed was the philosophy of socialism being alloyed with the entitlement mentality and new breed of self-centeredness. You’ll see more of this kind of argument in the future, in the real world, as it’s applied to Japan, Libya, green energy, healthcare, unemployment and every other issue we face.

15. #115
    On March 20th, 2011 at 12:34 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On March 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am, MarcoPolo said:

    The Arab League withdraws support:

    Fox News reported shortly before this announcement was that what pushed Obama over the edge was encouragement from the Arab League.

    ooooooops!

16. #116
    On March 20th, 2011 at 12:47 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Old Obama Theme Song: mmmm mmmm mmmm

    New Obama Theme Song: Ooops I Did it Again!

    Queue Brittany Spears

17. #117
    On March 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    Flyoverman #104

    Could someone tell me what consultations Obama had with the Congress before our country was committed to this military effort in Lybia?

    GW Bush would have been torn apart by the Dems and the MSM. All I hear is crickets….. GOP response? crickets..

    December 2007 quote from then-candidate Obama:

    “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

18. #118
    On March 20th, 2011 at 2:08 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Sorry Aloha, I have no interest in this fight. Whoever ends up in charge in Lybia will hate us. So who cares? My choice is pick one of two tactics:

    Letting the French take the first token shots was just Obama’s way of trying to pretend that the radical Muslims won’t see this as yet another war that the Americans started.

    My point is not that we should be there, but that Obama is a follower, not a leader, and has no foreign policy to speak of. I think the French, yes the French are thinking, “What a panty-waist.”

19. #119
    On March 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    , ParasiteHunter said:

    I know I am not the only one who noticed that the so called leader of the free world was lead by others to take action.

    No, I have been trying to make that same point…

20. #120
    On March 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    December 2007 quote from then-candidate Obama:

    “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

    March 20, 2011 News Report:

    Four B-52′s on the way to Lybia.

21. #121
    On March 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On March 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    I just love it when someone shoots themselves with their own gun.

    NICELY DONE GREENEYED LADY…….NICELY DONE!

    Kudos!

22. #122
    On March 20th, 2011 at 3:30 pm, Hiraghm said:

    B-52s? We’re going to carpet bomb fighter jets? AA batteries?

    I just heard that we have Apaches going in at night. IIRC, Apaches are tank-killers. Why are we killing tanks?

    I think we’re aiding the rebels under the cover of this “no-fly” zone (which is precisely what I expected when they first brought up a no-fly zone)

23. #123
    On March 20th, 2011 at 5:08 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    Dear Arab League: You asked for this, now shut up.

    **Posted by Phineas

    I’m not sure what the Arab League had in mind when they asked the West to establish a no-fly zone and protect civilians in Libya from Daffy Qaddafi’s air force. What, they thought we’d just buzz around and Qaddafi’s goons would quail and cower at our sheer moral authority?

    Lots of back and forth information starting to fly around out there..

    http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2011/03/20/dear-arab-league-you-asked-for-this-now-shut-up/

24. #124
    On March 20th, 2011 at 6:31 pm, 10SCN said:

    Do you suppose that Obama has any idea what victory looks like this time?

25. #125
    On March 20th, 2011 at 8:14 pm, Living in the PSRK said:

    I think the French, yes the French are thinking, “What a panty-waist.”

    And that is saying something when the cowards of Europe who are letting the Muzzies over-run their country, think The One is a panty-waist…

26. #126
    On March 20th, 2011 at 8:32 pm, Hiraghm said:

    On March 20th, 2011 at 6:31 pm, 10SCN said:

    Do you suppose that Obama has any idea what victory looks like this time?

    No… but he can see it from his house…

27. #127
    On March 20th, 2011 at 10:52 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Are we air support for Al Queida now?

28. #128
    On March 21st, 2011 at 10:26 am, spaceycakes said:

    the warm air of Rio gently caresses you

    In Rio, one had better double check from whence that warm air emanates…it could be multiple, filthy backsides.

29. #129
    On March 21st, 2011 at 11:39 am, drbulb said:

    For the first time in our history AMERICA has been led into to battle by the FRENCH (who have never met an enemy they haven’t surrendered to). A new low for America indeed. Way to go Barry! Way to follow (I mean build) a coalition! I’m sure leftist lunatics like chrissy mathews are just ALL atingle with your wonderfulness. REAL Americans? Not so much…

    I imagine it’s about time for another nobel peace prize for not being George Bush, isn’t it?

30. #130
    On March 21st, 2011 at 12:53 pm, Yashmak said:

    I don’t buy into the ‘the rebels are Al-Qaida’ angle. All I see are a bunch of people trying to get out from under Ghaddafi. However, I think this intervention is a terrible move anyways.

    1) As already stated by others, no consultation with congress occurred. Obama himself said in 2007 that the President is not authorized to commit us to military action without the say-so of the legislative branch (which he probably WOULD have gotten, but he didn’t even try).

    2) TPM put it quite well in the following snippet:
    “So let’s review: No clear national or even humanitarian interest for military intervention. Intervening well past the point where our intervention can have a decisive effect. And finally, intervening under circumstances in which the reviled autocrat seems to hold the strategic initiative against us. This all strikes me as a very bad footing to go in on.”

    Like TPM, I think we’re going to end up provided extended duration air-cover for a rebel sanctuary in Benghazi, because I doubt the rebels have the capability left to regain their earlier momentum. . . and of course now that we’re engaged, we’ve in essence assumed responsibility for the lives of those people.

31. #131
    On March 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 am, PunditPete said:

    Overheard at the meeting of the Arab League,

    يجب على الناس الذين يعيشون في خيام لا رمي السكاكين

    which translated means “People who live in tents should not throw knives”.

    Check it out at the Pundit Pete Press Service.