Project Gunrunner update: ATF ignored warnings, DOJ ignores document requests

Tick, tick, tick. Another Project Gunrunner disclosure deadline approaches for the Obama Department of Justice. And GOP watchdogs are hammering away at yet another stonewall erected by corruptocrat Attorney General Eric Holder.
Late last week, Sen. Charles Grassley roasted the DOJ for failing to produce documents he requested in February — and released his own set of damning e-mails between a gun shop owner who had protested the ATF’s dangerous straw purchase scheme repeatedly. Via CBS News’s Sheryl Atkinson:
Damning, newly-obtained emails show that a key gun shop owner made explicit concerns in writing last year in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms’ “gunwalking” scandal.
Starting in late 2009, ATF allegedly directed an undetermined number of Phoenix-area gun shop owners to go ahead with sales of thousands of assault rifles and other weapons to suspicious buyers. Insiders claim ATF knew the buyers were connected to Mexico’s drug cartels, but let the guns “walk” onto the street anyway in a misguided attempt to obtain intelligence. ATF and the Justice Department have denied that.
Investigators from Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) obtained the emails this week.
You can download the .pdf file of Grassley’s letter to the DOJ and the e-mails here.
This will make your blood boil over:
On June 17, 2010, the gun dealer wrote to the ATF to again express concerns after seeing a report
on Fox News about firearms and the border:The segment, if the information was correct, is disturbing to me. When
you, [the Assistant U.S. Attorney], and I met on May 13th, I shared my
concerns with you guys that I wanted to make sure that none of the
firearms that were sold per our conversation with you and various ATF
agents could or would ever end up south of the border or in the hands of
the bad guys. … I want to help ATF with its investigation but not at the risk
of agents‟ safety because I have some very close friends that are U.S.
Border Patrol agents in southern AZ[.]5Incredibly, the FFL sent this email six months before guns from the same ATF operation were found at the scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry‟s murder. So, not only were
the ATF agents who later blew the whistle predicting that this operation would end in tragedy, so were the gun dealers—even as ATF urged them to make the sales. Furthermore, according to the FFL, there were “one or two” occasions on which his employees actually witnessed and recorded with surveillance cameras an exchange of money between the straw purchaser and another individual on the premises.6Despite this actual knowledge of a straw purchase, the dealer said ATF officials wanted him to proceed with the transaction.7 However, his employees refused to process the sale.8
In light of this new evidence, the Justice Department‟s claim that the ATF never knowingly sanctioned or allowed the sale of assault weapons to straw purchasers is simply not credible.
Grassley wants to know:
1.Do you stand by the assertion in the Department‟s reply that the ATF whistleblower allegations are “false” and specifically that ATF did not sanction or otherwise knowingly allow the sale of assault weapons to straw purchasers? If so, please explain why in light of the mounting evidence to the contrary.
2. Will you commit to providing the Senate Judiciary Committee with documents, or access to documents, simultaneously with the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform? If not, please explain why not.
Grassley’s deadline for a DOJ response to his continued inquiries is tomorrow.
Tick, tick, tick.
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More: U.S. urged dealer to continue gun sales despite concerns, inquiry finds, LAT
Mexican homicides tripled while ATF operation sent guns south, Dave Workman
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I remember all of the furor of the left when they accused President Reagan of personally importing drugs into the USA so that he could destroy the black inner-city community. It was a total lie, of course, but it became part of the liberal myth of Ronald Reagan.
Now we have actual proof of those same leftists deliberately arming the drug cartels and getting a federal agent murdered. This isn’t a myth either, it’s fact.
I’m still waiting to hear the hours of in-depth coverage from the MSM…
Right, what could possibly go wrong? For all the heat he took yesterday, Doug Powers’ observations on the ahem, “Holder Estate” establish a pattern. One we know all too well.
The MSM would watch the Obama adminsitration haul their own family members into concentration camps and not report it.
The Chuck Wagon is driving this investigation? Well, this one’s over.
I predict that no one is going to pursue this. Wild guess. Republicans are about talking, not doing.
It appears holder and indeed the entire bho group have no intentions of giving any information on this or a vast number of other things. They just ignore the laws and stall stall. I just wish something could be done to get the whole blooming bunch hauled into hearings, but that won’t happen.
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Another shining example of transparency from the lying, corrupt administration that promised “hope and change”. I notice that the “pick and choose” MSM continues to report “all the news that is fit to print that will glorify the president in any way possible”.
OT: This should also make your day:
“The New Black Panther Party — an organization known largely for their intimidation of voters outside a Philadelphia precinct — has announced plans for a “National Day of Action and Unity” — ironically urging followers (on their day of unity) to boycott all “non-black business” on April 23.
The New Black Panthers plan to protest non-black establishments and entities via “rallies, marches, demonstrations, programs, and confrontations” in over 60 cities.
“Because blacks worldwide are dissatisfied at their current condition,” the Panther’s announcement explains.”
http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/19/new-black-panthers-to-protest-non-blacks/#ixzz1JyLopQjn
So who is the point man for the GOP on this? Anyone? Anyone? Please, not Darrell Issa.
To Republicans, anything incriminating against Obama is a distraction from their effort to make sure he is voted out in 2012. The McCain (under the bus you go) Rule.
What holds our Constitution together, almost invisibly, is honor. The founders gave each of the three parts of government powers and supervision. The House and or Senate could sue the Justice Department, the courts might decide in their favor. Then what? Who prosecutes the prosecutors? The Senate is supposed to confirm (or not), and the President is supposed to nominate persons of experience, rectitude, gravitas. Sure — Holder swore to uphold, preserve, and protect but what if he doesn’t? The only way out is impeachment, but if partisanship intervenes (no shock there!) in, say, the Senate? In times past, a press exposure of these mistakes and possible crimes, would embarrass a President and even the bureaucrat into resignation. I think politics and patronage have long attached to the Post Office, Interior, Labor, Agriculture, etc. But Justice? Or State or Defense? Many resigned rather than carry out Nixon’s orders. It’s been worse ever since … Hillary’s law partner?
Republicans and other Democrats have appointed cronies or friends to Justice and its top levels. Somehow honor came with them. Back then . . .
For those that prefer the unvarnished truth and results of their handiwork ( along with a strong stomach )
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/
Violence Warning! Not for the squeamish.
Booting bho gives the boot to all his cronies and czars too.
“Hope and Change”. This admin has always hoped it could get away with subsantially changing the USA and we’d either approve or wouln’t notice. And either way it doesn’t care. It will do what needs to be done to fulfill its agenda until someone stops it in its tracks.
Where are the subpoenas? Where are the Senate hearings on this? They have time for Barry Bonds steroid usage but not this? (enacting a John Belushi head exploding flip out)
I am still trying to figure out how Obama knew Holder knew nothing about this?
Yes, but honor starts at the top. If the current resident of the White House is a dishonorable socialist lackey, then everyone else in the administration will act the same way, knowing they won’t be held accountable.
I’m trying to figure out why the Republicans and the press don’t ask the same question and then investigate it like a pack of wild dogs going after a pork chop.
Oh! Never mind.
We all need to write to CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, etc. and ask them when they will be reporting on this. When we write and call our “representatives” in DC, it sometimes helps. Has anyone flooded the MSM with questions about exactly WHY they don’t report on the blatant and provable corruption in this administration? If enough of us hound them, maybe they will see they won’t get away with the treason of extremely biased reporting. Ask them if they really want to be a part of the reason the United States is in deep trouble. Ask them if they think they will be just fine when this country turns into Greece. Get in their faces. I am so sick of this! It is time to call them on their duplicity.
Meanwhile libs continue to try and push more freedom killing gun legislation on the law abiding citizen.
Sometimes I try to put myself in their shoes and think like a lib but it always ends with a migraine and my eyes bleeding. Its criminal at worst, insanity at best.
Lets pray that science will some day find a cure for liberalism. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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HI BODFISH–#10. Great comment–but there is no honor among thieves. And in my 70 years of life I see a continuous descent into dishonor by politicians of both political parties.
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Diogenes should be back with his lamp looking for one honest man. And he would find very few in our government. And would not find many in our general population.
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Situational “ethics” is the rule now. Churches accepting abortion “choice”–aka murder. Class warfare community organizer crook politicians O.K. with ripping off the successful. Just a partial list.
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John Bibb
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From the orig. U.S Embassy “Fact Sheet”. Certainly places a new spin on ‘education’ now doesn’t it?
http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/eng/texts/et080116eTrace.html
Yeah, but they’ll just creep back into another government position or go back to work in the private sector. Either way ruination will follow them.
I’m sorry.., was that ‘seized’ ( or supplied? )
Time to end the unconstitutional “War on Drugs.”
I think we started it in 1971, and it’s a waste of time, resources, and lives.
If you own you, and your not harming anyone else, let Liberty prevail.
Fast and Furious ( catchy! ) Will Michelle Rodriguez’ career find new life in the sequel?
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2011/04/latest-on-operation-gunrunner-scandal.html
This pud and half the Obama admin need to be incarcerated for a long time. Incompetence is the least of their crimes.
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HI MARSHALL_WILL–#11. Good post of the Mexican drug gang murders. It’s a war down there–going the way of Columbia soon as the gangs become the war lords of large areas of the country.
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My Mexican born (now U.S. Citizen) wife of 42 years and I no longer go to Mexico to visit her family members. All live in fear in Juarez and other cities and towns in Chihuahua. Ten or more people are murdered in Juarez every day–12 miles South of my El Paso, Tx. home. And the drug gangs are moving into the U.S. and setting up operations here now.
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Most Texans are “armed up” and may need to fight to defend ourselves in the near future. But the Mexican People have been disarmed by their own government and are defenseless. And the rich drug gangs bribe or kill police, military, and government officials.
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The old Mexican saying is, “Plata o plomo!” They will pay with “Silver or lead!” Just like Al Capone in the 1920′s Chicago era. Coming soon to a U.S. city near you. It’s going to look like the Old West one day.
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John Bibb
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Oh… Holder is looking ‘in’ to it! Rest assured he’ll get to the bottom of things!
http://www.examiner.com/drug-cartel-in-national/will-operation-gunrunner-become-obama-s-iran-contra-scandal
Darwin aside, I reserve the right to blow away the pusher that gets my granddaughter hooked. Call it a cost of doing business.
We need some Maximus gladiator conservatives in Congress. As obnoxious as Trump is, look at how effective he is in dealing with the press on any subject. He knows how to tap into public sentiment and concern and he knows how to drive a message. He has totally bullrushed the MSM because they are impotent in the face of a determined and principled oppposition.
Take a lesson Republicans, and do it fast.
If Holder was completely ignorant about an operation allowing weapons to cross the border, he needs to resign in disgrace for his gross incompetence. Of course, we all know he was the one who authorized the operation with the consent of his boss.
Firstly congrats! 42 years. Wow. At the same time, very sorry to hear of that situation playing out. It only adds to the instability of the region, and it’s toll on decent families there. I hear now the cartels are “recruiting by means of force”.
So much for the live and let live crowd huh? Just my paranoia but we should cache as many of those Op. Gunrunner articles as possible before they’re harder to find than FLOTUS Law License huh?
I kept thinking Holder would not be liable in this case but looking at this email shows that the DOJ was questioned on doing this and let proceeded anyway. A real bad decision. ATF screwed up, DOJ knew/knows about it and are covering for them.
ATF is giving ATF a bad name just like they have done in the past.
I shop at most of these Phx stores. When the press initially came out blaming them for the weapons going south, I knew they had to much integrity to be doing this without calling the gubmint.
Remember, when you hear “I’m from the government and I’m here to help,” it is time to bend over and grab your ankles!
It’s time to stop the Bullsh*t and take our country back.A million people marching on Washington with this intent in mind, wouldn’t have to be armed. If the march started in four places across the country, I bet the number would be well over a million before it go there.
It’ll be a nice day to go shopping at the
mallanywhere.FIM – Fixed it myself
Good luck with that. It’s going to take subpoenas.
– But regardless of topic, we all know that the only obstruction preventing the flow of all that is good, proper and just in the world is the Republican Party…
Chairman Obama can finally apologize to Mexico.
Oh Wait. . . Being Liberal means never having to apologize (for your own actions).
Ah, The New Black Panther Party — an organization known largely for being the cadre and nucleus for Obama’s Civilian National Security Force.
Sweet.
I’m sorry but that is not true at all. Trump is another Ross Perot. He’s a Democrat stooge just trying to draw votes away from any Republican candidate for Team BHO. You watch him decide to run as an independent on the advice of his Democrat campaign manager.
If this is not the smoking gun nothing is. Holder and fools at the ATF need to all go down hard.
I agree completely. My point was that Trump proved that the MSM is a paper tiger if you just bust them in the nose.
….. the Republicans do not have anyone with the guts to engage.
True that. But who’s going to do it? I see no one stepping up to do the job.
The GOP congress is quite useless in this and many other serious matters regarding this admin.
b-b-b-but the liberals and the media told me that gun store owners are unethical, money grubbing scoundrels with the blood of the innocent victims of gun voilence on thier hands…..
I predict, with certainty, that the Obama Administration will go down in history as the:
Most incompetent,
Most un-transparent,
Most unconstitutionally active,
Most contrary to American values,
Most corrupt,
Most arrogant,
Most anti-law enforcement,
Most prevaricative,
Most thuggish,
…administration, EVER!
I hope the American people can learn from the Obama experience, and choose leadership a little more wisely in future elections. I also pray that we elect representatives that will prosecute wrong-doing within their ranks, and stop giving fellow legislators free passes when they break the law, or violate “common” standards of ethics. The people who serve should be above reproach.
RedDog said:
It may not happen on a timetable that’s to our immediate liking, but yes I believe that’s all she wrote. Let this become the Iran/Contra just in time for 2012.
Today is the 16th anniversary of the Murrah Bombing.
Which occurred 2 years to the day after the Waco massacre, which was the result of a botched BATF operation.
Has the BATF become a “hire the mentally handicapped” program?
So, what does it take to rise to the level of impeachment? The Attorney General is supposed to enforce the laws, not violate them.
I’m politically opposed to Holder, but I don’t think I’m jumping the gun by saying his failure to enforce voting rights, pay his taxes, and covering up this travesty have proven him unfit to serve.
Let’s hope not. First, Bush got elected; by analogy, a Democrat would get elected.
Second, Iran-Contra was a brilliant plant to circumvent a communist-controlled Congress bent on helping our enemies. This operation is just our communist-controlled executive actually helping our enemies.
Found Our Man! ( Scott Brown are you listening or posing? )
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2004/07/22/kerry/index.html
This story changes nothing. Liberals, or leftists, and their accomplices in media still hold to what you write of them.
Most people will refuse to acknowledge that the Constitution was rendered obsolete on Usurpation Day until Soebarkha runs for his third term…..
The only explanation for this is that the DOJ and ATF wanted these guns to be used and found so as to blow up the numbers of American purchased firearms. It was to be a prelude to a gun grab. And I think it clear that DOJ and ATF knew these weapons would be used to kill Mexicans and Americans. So what is the sentence for the illegal distribution of firearms?
As plausible an explanation to date? Note, puhiawa* isn’t implying it’s ‘Americans’ that purchased them.
Small matter. Fill the “iron river” with BLOOD I say!
Money. There is always money involved. See who got money.
I also see where border patrol agents are coming out in droves to back the AZ sheriff who says Nappy and gang are ordering border patrols not to arrest illegals. Over 100 have contacted Sheriff Dever and that includes supervisors. This whole administration is a joke. I wonder what their response will be when something drastic happens? They will run like cockroaches to avoid any and all truths.
Gee, the gun dealers seem to be doing a better job of protecting the country than the ATF, Border Patrol and the DOJ!
There’s as much chance of getting to the bottom of this as there is of getting to the bottom of the foreign money that was poured into the campaign that elected The Usurper.
None.
My nickname for POTUS is all the more fitting: Barack “Barry Chiclets” Obama. He and his capos may have to be taken down with something as counter intuitive as what got Capone.
Fat chance of that without a sceond party.
I can’t believe the lack of security checks on credit card donations wasn’t reported heavily and subsequently investigated.
Different deal. Plastic-gate hasn’t left a trail of dead bodies. On this one, we’re doing estimates.
I’ve emailed Senator Issa about this issue, requesting he put this on his investigation list.
A simple sort on the credit card number on the database of donations would do it. If the same number is listed under multiple names, you have fraud.
Surely you must be joking.
With our OBummer enabling media? Had it been John McAmenesty’s website, the media would have been all over it in less than a heartbeat. But OBummer? Not a chance.
Thanks for reporting on this.
CBS apparently is reporting on this. See above:
NRA News is reporting on this. They may be heard on the Sirius/XM Patriot channel, at NRAnews.com, podcasts in the itunes store, and free mp3 downloads here (for those without itunes)
From what I’ve read, the FEC already knows they had donations from cartoon characters and that security protocols for credit and pre-paid debit cards were disabled. The campaign has had to return $400,000 already.
Nothing to see here, move along…..
Also consider the semi-auto magazine ban proposed by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, Donk-NY.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Also consider the semi-auto magazine ban proposed by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, Donk-NY.
Sorry, here’s the link.
My God, this is straight out of a Matthew Bracken book.
Mexican homicides tripled while ATF operation sent guns south
Call me paranoid, but I think that Project Gunrunner will be used to subvert the Second Amendment and TRY to limit our access to firearms and ammo.
Absolutely. The Left will continue to work remove firearms and ammo from the hands of law abiding citizens, leaving them only in the hands of government and criminals, which are sometimes one and the same.
You’re onto something there. It will.
No paranoia, that’s exactly what it’s about. They wanted to prove true their lie of Mexico being flooded with U.S. guns. That is a prelude to restricting our rights.
It’s for the children….
Liberals fighting any war is a truly pathetic thing to witness.
If the current bunch had been in charge of WW II, the Pacific and Asia would be owned by Japan and the Euro would now be the Deutchmark.
I have asked every LEO, Homeland Security officer I can find and asked them about this, and every one of them have told me under no uncertain terms that an Operation like Project Gun runner can be placed into operation with out the approval of Holder himself, whom also has to get approval from the President.
Now this was explained to me why they had to get approval from Holder.
1. Competing Law Enforcement Agencies, such as the local Police, Sheriff, and FBI would have to be informed of any such operation to prevent any duplicate investigations and to prevent arrest of innocent people involved, and this can only be done by a direct letter from the DOJ.
2. BATF gets all it’s legal advice through the DOJ and only they can advise the BATF on what Actions to take.
3. The BATF is under direct control of the DOJ, therefore they can not act with out informing the DOJ of any operations.
Change we can believe in: The top prosecutor in the country could very well also be the top criminal in the country.
Holder did not know, he is innocent. Napy did not tell him! Oh, Napy did not know either. The man who sits at the desk on the third door on the left kenw, but he did not tell Napy, she did not tell Holder, but the man at the desk knew Holder did not know.
When you see the ranks of the justice system, lawyers, staffed by the likes Obama and Holder, we have to educate our kids or even ourselves.
When good kids are wondering what to do with their education future, here are classic examples of why they should seriously consider the law as a career.
As for this immediate situation I remember the original press trying to as usual smear the gun store owners.
I cannot speak to every gun store owner, but everyone I have ever met has been some of the most loyal and patriotic individuals you could ever meet.
And as for being some shady hustler out for a buck, that depiction could not be farther from the reality. These people who run gun stores care about the people who they are selling to and go out of their way in whatever way they can to aid, educate and inform the customer, and law enforcement.
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HI CONSERVATIVE_HISPANIC–#72. Remember–just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that they’re not out to get you!
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Or your guns, ammo, property, free speech, internet, or voting rights either.
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A little paranoia can go a long way in our current environment. Only a useful idiot would trust Comrade Obama and his ilk.
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John Bibb
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What bothers me most is that the Obama administration screamed about so many guns going south but they were the ones sending them there, quite probably so that they could scream so loud in order to bring so much more gun control/second amendment desicration could be brought to law!
Of course. Maybe six months ago the news tools were all blabbing about how the violence in Mexico was because of lax gun laws that allowed Texas and Arizona gun dealers to flood Mexico with “assault rifles.” Add in the requirement that our guys can only carry bean bags and you have the US Gov involved in getting Americans killed for their political ends. Bill Ayers and Obama are ideological blood brothers.
WOW!
Thanks hawkeye, Virginia Patriot, rocketman and AlohaGuy. Aparently this newbie hit a nerve. But then again, great minds think alike.
Guns, ammo, gold and freeze-dried food will soon be the only things of value in this country, me thinks. Get plenty of all of them. Or am I being paranoid?
WHO IS BARRY SOETORO?
For all too long the ATF has been more a Social Policy agency than a law enforcement group. They are out of control and have been all too long. With the all too much power Congress gave them they have assumed even more by administrative fiat. They are a poster child for a government grown too big, too powerful and out of control.
Cut the budget:
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
should be a convenience store,
NOT a government agency.