Best Interaction at a White House Correspondents Dinner Party

By Doug Powers  •  May 1, 2011 12:13 PM

**Written by Doug Powers

The White House Correspondents Dinner took place last night in Washington. MSNBC hosted a party where a Barack Obama lookalike jumped out of a cake, much to the delight of a giddy Chris Matthews (that’s an unverified rumor but it sounds about right). From what I’ve read so far, the best part of the evening was when guest bartender Rachel Maddow had to wait on Sarah Palin:

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If only Sarah would have ordered a Bulls Eye.

Mind you, that report was from Andrea Mitchell, so I won’t automatically believe it until its veracity has been verified by any journalist serious enough about his or her profession to avoid getting within a mile of a White House Correspondents Dinner.

At a fundraising brunch earlier in the day, reporters wanted pictures with Palin. Not of Palin, but with Palin:

Once inside, guests of all stripes angled to get a picture with Palin, including astronaut Buzz Aldrin.

The hubbub was enough to cause one reporter to quip: “Look at all these reporters who typically rip her a new one mosey on up to her, desperate to get a photograph.”

As for the dinner itself, the worst joke of the night was President Obama tweaking Fox News about his birth certificate:

As some of you heard, the state of Hawaii released my official long-form birth certificate. (Applause.)

Hopefully this puts all doubts to rest. But just in case there are any lingering questions, tonight I’m prepared to go a step further. (Laughter.) Tonight, for the first time, I am releasing my official birth video. (Laughter.)

Now, I warn you — (laughter) — no one has seen this footage in 50 years, not even me. But let’s take a look.

(“Secret Birth Video” plays.) (Applause.)

Oh, well. Back to square one. (Laughter.) I want to make clear to the Fox News table: That was a joke. (Laughter.) That was not my real birth video. (Laughter.) That was a children’s cartoon. (Laughter.) Call Disney if you don’t believe me. (Laughter.) They have the original long-form version. (Laughter.)

It was a bad joke because it was wildly misdirected:

When CNN covered the White House, 89 percent of the time they were covering rumors, while at MSNBC it was even higher at 93%. Fox News was downright moderate by comparison: birther coverage made up 48% of its Administration coverage.

Can you believe the president didn’t make any gas price jokes? “Sorry I’m late but I had to walk here tonight. With these fuel prices and the rotten mileage the presidential limo gets, we couldn’t afford to fill up because the Republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling.”

Yeah, I know, but at least it would have been a start.

Update: Greta Van Susteren has more about the media fascination with Palin last night, in spite of the fact that she didn’t even attend the Correspondents Dinner.

**Written by Doug Powers

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  1. #101
    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:53 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:37 pm, StaceyOfLiberty said:

    There’s no point in arguing over religion. If you’re a believer (I am), fine. If you’re not, fine. In any case, no one ever converts people to a different point of view by insulting them.

    If you are referring to me, I’ve stated I’m not in the business of converting. If not, profuse apologies.

    I leave the converting to people that are schooled in such matters.

    It might just be me but I’ve reviewed what I’ve submitted and nothing I’ve written is insulting. Cynical, maybe, insulting? That’s in the eye of the beholder I guess. One man’s meat is another man’s poison, as they say. (whoever ‘they’ is/are)

  2. #102
    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:57 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:52 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    Michelle, how about a poll based on last nights White House Dinner?

    Who had the best/worst wig?

    Michelle Obama

    That was a wig??????

    I was thinking the hairdresser better get to smoking that last proverbial cigarette!!

  3. #103
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:00 pm, Ota Benga said:

    Are you saying that Jesus Christ isn’t evidence enough to support Christianity?

    I believe Christ and Mohammed lived. I just think they were men (flesh&blood), with a point of view, and folks who followed them; and continue to.

    I don’t believe either were anything beyond that.

    I’ve never encountered anything in all of my years to suggest to me otherwise.

    I’ve read the bible, and I’ve read parts of the koran.

    I urge believers to read the works of atheists and agnostics. It can change your life.

    If you’re happy with your life, and don’t want to challenge your views, fine, I can respect that.

    All I can do is spread the word. Life can be fulfilling, joyful, and install a desire to be “good”, without the need for religion. I won’t bore you here, but Darwinism explains just about everything.

    I just refuse to commit all the way. I can’t prove there is no higher being, anymore than anyone else can prove there is one.

    But faith is really “blind faith”, and I believe that is very dangerous. Personally, I can’t believe that everyone isn’t agnostic. I think it’s the only sensible and humble position to take on the issue.

    But, life is life, and we all have to do what we have to do, to make it by…

  4. #104
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:08 pm, Ota Benga said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:33 pm, Flyoverman said:

    It’s a flawed point. Doctors and medicine are tangible and real, it can be ignored, but you can’t deny they exist. I suppose, a person can quit going to doctors, or condemn medicine because of the actions of some, but I’m talking about real, tangible beings or things: doctors, medical practice, abuse…

    I, and countless others, believe the bible is largely filled with fairy-tales; some of them are horrific. And some people take those tales as an excuse to do horrific things.

    Your point makes sense to you, I’m assuming, because you’re a main of faith.

  5. #105
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:14 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:00 pm, Ota Benga said:

    I’m taking the libertarian stance as I indicated previously.

    Do what you feel is right for you. I could’t give a (expletive) less about you, if the truth were known.

  6. #106
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:15 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 6:37 pm, StaceyOfLiberty said:
    There’s no point in arguing over religion. If you’re a believer (I am), fine. If you’re not, fine. In any case, no one ever converts people to a different point of view by insulting them.

    True dat

  7. #107
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:16 pm, bodfish said:

    OK, I admit it… I watched the whole Correspondent’s Dinner.

    Y’all missed two big things Obamanure did and didn’t do.

    Early on, they offered the only toast ever at these events: To the President! OK, so far. Folks stood and raised their glasses. So _this_ President? He did it too, and sipped his white wine. Drank to himself. Well… why am I surprised?

    Second and worse … the evening began with the “President’s Own” the Marine band. I turned up the sound as the colors were trooped. All were invited then to join in singing our National Anthem. People did. C-Span had a closeup of Fearful Leader as, tight-lipped, he did not sing. Not at all. He didn’t know the words, most likely. You see, the TOTUS was set up at the podium for later, two seats to his left… he clearly couldn’t see the words.

    The Marine Band was great, as always. Earlier while folks schmoozed they had played medleys of patriotic tunes and a blending of all the Armed Service songs.

    PS, I like to read da Scrapper!

  8. #108
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:19 pm, Ota Benga said:

    Ah, it feels good dealing with folks I don’t have to play the “insult/last word” game with. We’re supposed to be adults for Ronnie Wood’s sake. I hope to continue this new tact from here on out. Props to those who have provided a solid example. And I know who to ignore. Sorry for playing in the sewer with others before. It’s distracting and silly. It was my own fault by initiating on some of the occasions. I won’t do it again.

    I’m out. Enjoy your Sunday evening.

  9. #109
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:25 pm, sicoit said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:16 pm, bodfish said:
    OK, I admit it… I watched the whole Correspondent’s Dinner.

    Y’all missed two big things Obamanure did and didn’t do.

    Early on, they offered the only toast ever at these events: To the President! OK, so far. Folks stood and raised their glasses. So _this_ President? He did it too, and sipped his white wine. Drank to himself. Well… why am I surprised?

    He is Teh Won after all…what did you or anyone actually expect?????

    Second and worse … the evening began with the “President’s Own” the Marine band. I turned up the sound as the colors were trooped. All were invited then to join in singing our National Anthem. People did. C-Span had a closeup of Fearful Leader as, tight-lipped, he did not sing. Not at all. He didn’t know the words, most likely. You see, the TOTUS was set up at the podium for later, two seats to his left… he clearly couldn’t see the words.

    Teh Won is above all of this. Teh Won afterall, does NOT need to know the words of the song that is NOT Teh Won’s National Anthem. Puhleeeeeze unwashed one…

    The Marine Band was great, as always. Earlier while folks schmoozed they had played medleys of patriotic tunes and a blending of all the Armed Service songs.

    And they all refilled their drinks, checked their big behinds to make sure they looked “good”, kept talking, ignored the patriotic tunes,….need I go on? I didn’t even watch the cr@p and know what these ignorant…….ones did and didn’t do. God help us….

  10. #110
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:26 pm, sicoit said:

    Man, I STILL can’t get this quotey thing right….:-(

  11. #111
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:27 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:16 pm, bodfish said:

    OK, I admit it… I watched the whole Correspondent’s Dinner.

    Y’all missed two big things Obamanure did and didn’t do.

    Early on, they offered the only toast ever at these events: To the President! OK, so far. Folks stood and raised their glasses. So _this_ President? He did it too, and sipped his white wine. Drank to himself. Well… why am I surprised?

    I missed that because I ‘listened’ and didn’t watch. The epitomy of classlessness. On the other hand, certain protocols aren’t taught in the ghetto.

    Second and worse … the evening began with the “President’s Own” the Marine band. I turned up the sound as the colors were trooped. All were invited then to join in singing our National Anthem. People did. C-Span had a closeup of Fearful Leader as, tight-lipped, he did not sing. Not at all. He didn’t know the words, most likely. You see, the TOTUS was set up at the podium for later, two seats to his left… he clearly couldn’t see the words.

    He was afraid his tongue would turn to stone and fall out of his mouth. That would be totally faux pas. I venture to say it would lose him the next election. On the bright side… no more ‘and… uhhh…. and…. uhh…’

  12. #112
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:30 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Try preview, gives you a chance to fix it, wished I had more than once.

  13. #113
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:31 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:26 pm, sicoit said:

    Man, I STILL can’t get this quotey thing right….:-(

    HAHAHAHAA…. sorry…. highlight what you want to quote and click the ‘quote’ button up top.

    DON’T highlight your comments to the quote. I always double space between my comments and what I am quoting to remedy that problem. Try it…. click PREVIEW to see what you are getting prior to submitting the comment.

  14. #114
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:32 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    That Just Released Long Form Birth Certifacate is an absolute fake. There is NOTHING in it that would have warranted anyone spending $5 million + to keep from becoming public. If it doesn’t make sense, it just isn’t true. The guy is a fake, a fraud, an imposter. Period. It could have been written in Crayon and the State Run Media lap-dogs would have said the same thing they are saying now.

  15. #115
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:41 pm, sicoit said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:31 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    Geeeeezzzzz, *blush* man, it’s tuff gettin old…thanks WP. ;-) Hopefully you understood what I was trying to say..

  16. #116
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:42 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:32 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    That Just Released Long Form Birth Certifacate is an absolute fake. There is NOTHING in it that would have warranted anyone spending $5 million + to keep from becoming public. If it doesn’t make sense, it just isn’t true. The guy is a fake, a fraud, an imposter. Period. It could have been written in Crayon and the State Run Media lap-dogs would have said the same thing they are saying now.

    Did anyone get Dan Rather’s expert opinion on it? I don’t think he’s weighed in yet. Mostly Socialist Media™ apparatchiks haven’t quizzed him on it and most likely won’t because it doesn’t fit the agenda of flushing the country down the toilet.

  17. #117
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:44 pm, Paratus said:

    Happyscapper: Your still one of my favorite folks here,even if you did tell me to “shut up just shut up”. I’ve enjoyed your posts and will continue to enjoy your posts.
    You have a lot of interesting points to make.
    Your not crazy or have dementia.
    Enjoy that new son-in-law of yours. I wish them happiness forever.

  18. #118
    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:47 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:41 pm, sicoit said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:31 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    Geeeeezzzzz, *blush* man, it’s tuff gettin old…thanks WP. ;-) Hopefully you understood what I was trying to say..

    (Standing OVATION) Gettin old ain’t the toughest part…. the toughest part is trying to keep up with all the technology. That’s full speed ahead and I’m slow coasting to room temperature. Very slowly I hope.

    I remember when tv stations used to sign off with the national anthem late at night if that tells you anything.

  19. #119
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:00 pm, Flyoverman said:

    For those of you with doubts about the Christian faith I encourage you to be skeptcal. I am a skeptic. After growing up Christian I wanted to “validate” my faith.

    I suggest you start at the beginning with a baby step. Genesis 1 where the earth is “created in six days.” Now there is something that has been debated for generations. Read Genesis 1. Consider all of the science on the subject you have seen, reread the chapter and then do the following:

    1) Ask how would God explain to a group of people 7.000 years ago in the desert, given their grasp of science, (or lack thereof) how God created the heavens and the earth so it was understandable and acceptable to them.

    2) Now put yourself back in the 21st Century. Think about the author of Genesis, Moses. Compare his writing with that of the scientists like Darwin. How did Moses basically get the sequence of the formation of the heavens and life on Earth in the correct order? How could he possibly have gotten it so close, given the ignorance of science at his time?

    I submit that sequence was placed there so we, centuries later, would also find it acceptable and understandable. I do not know how long it took, but Genesis 1 shows me who did it.

    No other religon explains our origin in this way, this accurately. Learning what lies beyond Genesis 1 is what others have described as the journey of faith.

    May your journey be blessed.

  20. #120
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:01 pm, TigerLady said:

    I urge believers to read the works of atheists and agnostics. It can change your life.

    Read the works of atheists and agnostics? Why?

    My life has been already been changed in ways atheists and agnostics can’t imagine.

    Your comments are beyond ridiculous.

  21. #121
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:09 pm, sicoit said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:47 pm, Whirled Peas said:
    I remember when tv stations used to sign off with the national anthem late at night if that tells you anything

    Yup, me too! And when our phone number started with Bridge 6-6710! I feel better now….I think….:-)

  22. #122
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:15 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:08 pm, Ota Benga said:

    It’s a flawed point.

    You missed my point. All of the evils you subscribe to religon are not caused by the religon but the pople who pervert it.

    I can only speak for Chistianity. Christ said the 10 Commandments could be explained in two parts. He said the first part was you should love God with all your heart and all your soul. The remainder he said comprised what we call the Golden Rule: Love your neighbor as yourself or alrernately expressed as do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.

    When you see people who PROFESSS to be Christians use religon to directly violoate those two commands from Christ, you can rest assured that God ain’t too happy!!!

    We believe all people are sinful, capable of any perversion or evil possible. You wrote once the world would be a bter place without religon. I get our point given your perspective.

    But know this, hell is a place where God is totally absent. The Lord of the Flies. When there are no checks to human behavior, “all hell does break loose.” History repeatedly validates that premise.

  23. #123
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:17 pm, Trollman said:

    What is that Rush keeps telling us? The Left will tell you who they fear by who they attack.

    They attacked Trump.

    I don’t know if Trump is for real or not, but he sure is tough, feared, and entertaining. :)

  24. #124
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:17 pm, Trollman said:

    I cannot wait to vote for Trump. As a conservative I want to vote for a man who in December contributed $50,000 to Rahm Emmanual’s mayoral election campaign, as well as last election contributing to Harry Reid’s and Chuck Schumer’s re-election campaigns.

    Oh ya, Trumps the guy all right. Pass the bong!

  25. #125
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:22 pm, Trollman said:

    Ota Benga said:

    I won’t bore you here, but Darwinism explains just about everything.

    Darwinism (at least appears) to explain a lot of things, this is true. But it doesn’t help the atheist at all.

    Darwinism neither explains where the first living organism came from (that is abiogenesis, not evolution), nor where the laws of nature come from, nor the origin of the universe itself.

    If we assume evolution is 100% true, all it does is push the question of origins back a step. Atheism is powerless to explain why the laws of nature are as they are, rather than something else, and it is powerless to explain how the universe began.

    If time and space began in the finite past, how did it bring itself into being? It cannot. Therefore there is the need for an uncaused first cause, which cannot be the universe.

  26. #126
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:25 pm, Trollman said:

    Flyoverman, Trump is a business man. It is hardly shocking for a big time business man to give money to politicians. Notice he gave to winners. So that proves nothing, other than Trump will do what he needs to do.

    And Trump has thus far demonstrated he will do what he needs to do to beat Obama, which is more than I can say for any of the “real” Republicans.

  27. #127
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:27 pm, Flyoverman said:

    And Trump has thus far demonstrated he will do what he needs to do to beat Obama,

    Frankly his approach is correct, but his tactics suck……

    His timing also sucks; way too early. It’s May 2011.

  28. #128
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    That Just Released Long Form Birth Certifacate is an absolute fake.

    You are what we affectionatly refer to as an “afterbirther.”

  29. #129
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:44 pm, Paratus said:

    I’m glad you didn’t take it personally, she’s told me to shut up, too. Still one of my favorites.

    Reality bites and sometimes she just doesn’t want to hear about it. ;)

  30. #130
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:44 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On May 01, 2011 at 01:50 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 4:28 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Very good but I have a question: if it safe to come out yet? Are the Royal done getting married?

    That’s done but the paparazzi are gearing up (hanging out of trees, peeking over fences, etc) for the intrusive photos of the ‘honeymoon’. They want to be the first to get a snap of Kate’s thong and become instant millionaires.

    They can’t live in hopes of winning the National Lottery when Kate’s thong is on the line… (metaphorically speaking) takes too long, that!

    OK :)

  31. #131
    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:58 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    From Wong:

    At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.
    – Supreme Court Justice Horace Gray

    Almost verbatim Vattel’s definition of natural born citizen. That is what the founders meant by natural born citizen in Article II Sec.1.

  32. #132
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:15 pm, swede said:

    chapoutier said:
    You are what we affectionatly refer to as an “afterbirther.”

    Alright – nice volley. ;-) Advantage chap.

  33. #133
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:17 pm, Trollman said:

    Flyoverman, I agree with you that Trump is not a real conservative. But I believe priority #1 in saving this great country is getting Obama out of office ASAP. I would take Hillary (shudder) over Obama, yes it is that bad.

    In my overly optimistic moments, I figured Mickey Mouse could beat Obama in 2012. And if the upcoming election was even remotely fair, this would be true.

    But I now see 2012 will in all likelihood be the nastiest, dirtiest presidential election in my lifetime. This will be precisely because Obama is so vulnerable, due to his dismal record. When has a person’s record ever been this low, when the cult of personality was this high?

    A nice guy isn’t going to be able to hang with the Chicago thug and his media lackeys. Only a fighter can win, so the question is, who has the most fight in them?

    Is there any doubt that Trump will go after Obama, without pulling any punches? Can we honestly say the same thing about anybody else?

  34. #134
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:17 pm, hopin_society said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:26 pm, sicoit said:
    Man, I STILL can’t get this quotey thing right….:-(

    indeed, you may have some cursory cursor issues, my friend fellow poster

  35. #135
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:22 pm, hopin_society said:

    “afterbirther.”

    oh c’mon, you borrowed it from kos, as it wasn’t yet copyrighted

    .

    .

    .

    thaaaat otta about kill it

  36. #136
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:24 pm, swede said:

    Almost verbatim Vattel’s definition of natural born citizen. That is what the founders meant by natural born citizen in Article II Sec.1.

    “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” – De Vattel

    Sorry to have to point out again that since “natural born citizens” is plural, this can be interpreted as either parent of an individual being a citizen and be gramarically correct.

    Not to mention it seems De Vattel never actually used the term until 1797 – and Wiki has scrubbed De Vattel’s “Natural Born” definition. That leaves you with nothing difinitive to difinitively define the framers intent for the term.

    Dead end.

  37. #137
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-PUR-bə-lee[1]; from ancient Greek ὑπερβολή ‘exaggeration’) is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

    Since you tediously insist on examining my statements as math problems, yes 3 to 2 means Obama has 50% more wars going than Bush and not twice as many.

    Thank you for mentioning Reagan and his attack on Libya. How old are you? Let me brief you in case you don’t remember or are too young.

    December, 1985, in coordinated attacks at airports in Rome and Vienna, 5 Americans are killed by terrorists. Libya credited, Reagan freezes their assets.

    March, 1986, clash in the Gulf of Sidra between US and Libyan forces, four of their gunboats sunk.

    April 5, LaBelle discotheque in Berlin, known as a hangout for US servicemen is bombed by terrorists. One American and a Turkish woman are killed, 200 others wounded – 50 of whom were American servicemen. Radio intercepts show orders from Libya to it’s delegation in Berlin ordering the attack.

    April 14, the US strikes back. Targets were mostly related to Libya’s terrorist activities, the airport runways to prevent Libyan fighter jets from taking off, and Qaddafi’s compound.

  38. #138
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Stuff happens. War actions are ugly. Stuff happens.

    Excellent – not many lefties would be so accommodating on collateral damage.

  39. #139
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:44 pm, Flyoverman said:

    War actions are ugly.

    What war? The exercise in Lybia is total FUBAR. Please do not dignify that cluster f*** by calling it a war.

  40. #140
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:47 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Flyoverman said:

    War actions are ugly.

    What war? The exercise in Lybia is total FUBAR. Please do not dignify that cluster f*** by calling it a war.

    You do know I was quoting Ota Benga?

  41. #141
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:48 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Being air cover for Al Qaida is messy business, you know…..

  42. #142
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:51 pm, swede said:

    Please do not dignify that cluster f*** by calling it a war.

    Barry-Speak – Overseas Contingent Reciprocal Advocacy for Peace?

    (O-CRAP!)

  43. #143
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:54 pm, Flyoverman said:

    You do know I was quoting Ota Benga?

    I am going to hold my hand over a candle now……

  44. #144
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    From your link swede:

    In actuality, any straightforward reading of the original French shows beyond a doubt that de Vattel was not saying that a “natural born citizen” had to have two citizen parents, he was saying that you need two citizen parents to be a citizen at all!!!

    Franklin had multiple copies in French and was quite fluent. They meant exactly that, two citizen parents, born in this country to be a natural born citizen. All other types of citizen are creations of Congress.

  45. #145
    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:55 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 2:55 pm, Ota Benga said:

    We started bombing Qaddafi’s kids, by accident, during the Reagan years.

    You are as ignorant as the nitwits in the media who propagate this myth.

    I am old enough to remember that bombing, and remember reading the news stories of him getting bombed, complete with him standing in the middle of the rubble holding up this baby claiming it had been killed in the bombing. The baby was wrapped in a white cloth, with no indication of dust, dirt or blood on the cloth, so who knows where the baby was killed, if it even had been.

    In the initial news articles, he stated clearly that he had decided right then to adopt that baby, AFTER it had supposedly been killed. After a few days, the leftist, “I-hate-America” media dropped the fact that he adopted the baby after it was supposedly killed, and the media since then has left that out of their foolish stories.

    You want to take the word of some muslim dictator that his grandsons were killed, or some previous “son” was killed, go ahead. Don’t expect the rest of us to believe the smoke you are blowing.

  46. #146
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2713091/posts?page=30#30

    Good explanation of natural born citizen. Not the same as native born.

  47. #147
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm, swede said:

    Virginia Patriot said:
    Franklin had multiple copies in French and was quite fluent. They meant exactly that, two citizen parents, born in this country to be a natural born citizen. All other types of citizen are creations of Congress.

    Do you have links? I’d like to see where this interpretation is unambiguously presented. The de Vattel definition I mentioned is the only one I have seen. My son is an attorney and agrees it wouldn’t hold up in a SCOTUS case. And if this definition fails the both parents standard, why would they get it scrubbed from Wiki?

    Even beyond this, since the definition is not contained in the Constitution itself, the framers intent would be very difficult to interpret definitively. This is a slippery road.

  48. #148
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:16 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 5:14 pm, Ota Benga said:

    I’m a realist. I’m a facts and evidence guy.

    Yet you support Urkel…making you a delusional, kool-aid slurping lib.

  49. #149
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:19 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm, swede said:

    And this exercise will win the 2012 Presidential Election, how?

  50. #150
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:29 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    Has anyone seen a Christian Communist before? Yeah, I know Barry pretends to be one. We should not be shocked when the Ol’ BenGay’s pronounce their Godlessness, afterall, it’s what Commies are.

  51. #151
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:29 pm, jrgdds said:

    OT/

    BREAKING: Obama To Address Nation At 10:30 EDT UPDATE: CNN Says It’s “National Security Related”

  52. #152
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:35 pm, swede said:

    And this exercise will win the 2012 Presidential Election, how?

    That’s kind of my point. I have never seen how the COLB or Natural Born Citizen angle could be used to dethrone Dear Leader. It would be nice if I were wrong though – so I ask.

    I still believe the only way to take him down is at the ballot box – but who will beat him?

  53. #153
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:42 pm, jrgdds said:

    Osama Bin Laden is Dead!!! per FOX News

    May He Rot In Hell

  54. #154
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:45 pm, hopin_society said:

    oooohhhhhhhh, and it looks like bipartisan barry’s FELLOW MUSLIM osama bin laden has been killed by …ur…uh… someone..

    I’m guessing the Dept. of Jihad and holder is going after the bad guys (who got him)

  55. #155
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:46 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:42 pm, jrgdds said:

    Osama Bin Laden is Dead!!! per FOX News

    May He Rot In Hell

    Send his body to Iowa and bury it in pigsh!t.

  56. #156
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:48 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:47 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    I remember when tv stations used to sign off with the national anthem late at night if that tells you anything.

    I remember that too, on either of the two channels we could get on our black and white TV. When I was about 12, they started the Friday All Night at the Movies. Three old movies, and after staying up all might watching Bogart or Wayne, getting to watch cartoons Saturday morning.

  57. #157
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm, swede said:

    Send his body to Iowa and bury it in pigsh!t.

    Send him to Detroit and sign him up for the Lions. (Sorry Doug)

    I’ve got a cigar that says Barry Sobamatoro takes the credit for bringing him down. That would get him huge approval ratings if he can sell it.

  58. #158
    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:54 pm, jrgdds said:

    I just poured some Bushmill’s and drank a toast to the military and the memories of those who died on 9/11 and in the War on Terror, and I’ll add in George W. Bush and yes, our current POTUS.

  59. #159
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:02 pm, hopin_society said:

    boy, trumps gonna hava hard time trumpin THIS one

  60. #160
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:05 pm, ChapBix said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 7:30 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Try preview, gives you a chance to fix it, wished I had more than once

    I use Preview and still find myself leaving typos in or omitting words. Old age creeping up on me, I suppose.

  61. #161
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:09 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 10:52 pm, swede said:

    That would get him huge approval ratings if he can sell it.

    Sell it to his kool-aid slurping supporters? Not a problem. I’m sure they fully believe he was tracking Bin Laden’s every movement in between golf outings, vacations, appearances on the Spew, fund raisers, date nights, parties at the WH, etc., just waiting for the opportunity to order someone to strike.

    Hell he might claim they rigged his Blackberry such that he could push the button himself.

  62. #162
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:10 pm, hopin_society said:

    drone strike, huh,

    let’s leave ilovemycontinuouscommunistcreepiness outta this

  63. #163
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    UBL

    AMF

  64. #164
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:18 pm, ChapBix said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 8:00 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I submit that sequence was placed there so we, centuries later, would also find it acceptable and understandable. I do not know how long it took, but Genesis 1 shows me who did it.

    Because Genesis 1 and 2 show me who did it, I have major problems with macro-evolution theories because they do not point us to who was responsible for all that there is. As I read holy scripture, I find a God who is jealous about his existence and identity. Meaning that an anonymous process that people give credit to for the appearance of everything is not that much different than the false idols people created thousands of years ago and still do. Scripture reveals divine beings (Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit) being intimately involved in every aspect of creation. I am going with what the Bible says about our appearance on the earth.

  65. #165
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:25 pm, Hiraghm said:

    As for the dinner itself, the worst joke of the night was President Mr. Obama

    Can you believe the president White House squatter didn’t make any gas price jokes?

    FIFY

  66. #166
    On May 1st, 2011 at 11:27 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    I still believe the only way to take him down is at the ballot box – but who will beat him?

    I agree, no one had the guts to tell him he wasn’t eligible before the election, no one is going to now.

    Who would beat him?

    Herman Cain, but the GOP wants to lose graciously with Romney.

  67. #167
    On May 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am, spaceycakes said:

    I’ve never encountered anything in all of my years to suggest to me otherwise.

    So you were born in prison? And you’re still there.

    Wow. What a life.

  68. #168
    On May 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm, Ota Benga said:

    On May 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    It’s always been my understanding that we killed Gaddifi’s daughter in the 80′s. If we didn’t, so be it. Personally, I don’t care if we did. It’s a casualty of war. There is always collateral damage. When you engage in war, bad stuff happens.

    Math issues aside, I guess I don’t understand your point. Bush had Iraq(a huge mistake), and Afghanistan. Obama, as opposed to excalating in Iraq, is bringing the war to a close. Afghanistan is FUBAR, but at least, to the disdain of many on the Right, Obama is issuing a pull-out date.

    I have no defense for Libya. We shouldn’t be there. But Obama, and many conservatives think we should. Folks like McCain think we should have used military force more quickly.

    If your point is that Obama is a Muslim country invading “hawk”, then come out and say it.

    On May 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am, spaceycakes said:

    I want you to try again, because I usually find you to be pretty witty.

    Prison is typically a place where people find religion. Because people in prison are lost and desperate, and are seeking hope to get through the day. People do irrational things in prison to cope.

    Being cynical about religion is completely rational. Being religious is completely irrational, if you care about clear evidence in order to believe in something. “Faith” is enough for some, but not for me. Faith is faith. Not fact.

    Read Dawkins. Or don’t, it you don’t want your religious views challenged. I believe in challenging personal viewpoints on matters like religious faith.

    I took a path from religious christian faith, toward reality over the course of my life. I’m better for it.

    I’ll never again have to look at a muslim, jew or hindu, or whatever, who happens to be a “good” person, and think, oh, they’re gonna suffer for eternity in hell-fire, for choosing a “wrong” faith, or none at all. That’s ugly stuff. I don’t think we should teach our kids that kind of madness.

    So yep, I’ll spread the word from time to time. Read and read, and you can look at life differently, or not.

  69. #169
    On May 2nd, 2011 at 2:17 pm, spaceycakes said:

    LOL–my ‘religious views’ are challenged every day. It does not bother me.
    I was responding to you writing that you hadn’t found anything to make you think otherwise. If you have never encountered G-d in all that surrounds us, I assumed you were born in a cell and never ventured out.
    As Snoop tells us, ‘if it ain’t one thing, it’s a muthaf#@$in’ other.’

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