Brennan and the bin Laden story bungle

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 3, 2011 09:54 AM

So Politico’s Josh Gerstein reports that White House officials are walking back key details disclosed by Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan at his bin Laden briefing yesterday.

The administration account has now been “modified.” You know all that sensational stuff about bin Laden having a gun and using one of his wives as a human shield? Never mind:

The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.

Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.

…At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. “He was firing behind her,” the official said.

In another background briefing early Monday morning, a senior administration official also said bin Laden put up a fight. “He did resist the assault force. And he was killed in a firefight,” the official said.

However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.

Another White House official familiar with the TV briefing confirmed the change to POLITICO, adding, “I’m not aware of him having a weapon.”

Why the changes? As the famous situation room photo shows, Brennan was in the room watching the raid video along with President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and others.

He probably disclosed more than he should have and it’s possible his betters were forced to walk back his comments for opsec reasons. What’s your best, good-faith guess?

Unfortunately, the discrepancies are going to be fodder for extremists on both sides of the political aisle. It’s a shame they couldn’t get their story straight and send out someone who had been fully briefed himself on the official narrative before briefing the rest of the world.

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2:05pm Eastern White House press secretary Jay Carney used his daily briefing as a do-over on the bin Laden post-op.

Snort-worthy phrase: “We’ve been very clear…”

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Previous Brennan bungle: National security nightmare: John Brennan and the notorious flying imam

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  1. #1
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 9:59 am, John Deaux said:

    Does this mean we’re not getting a photo?

  2. #2
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 am, badbait said:

    Its all about the narative! Which changes with need.

    I was lucky, the boss(puppy) did leave a present this morning at the local temple of terror.

  3. #3
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 am, LauraW said:

    I find it bizarre OBL was at home with so little security. Most of the people rounded up at the compound were family members. Why did he feel so safe?

    ISI has a LOT of explaining to do.

  4. #4
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:03 am, bear1909 said:

    AMATEUR HOUR!!!!

  5. #5
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:04 am, happyscrapper said:

    This is the most inept, bungling administration ever! They can’t even put together a cohesive story that everyone is briefed about so they know what to say to the press! Who are these people, anyway? And what are they smoking? Why didn’t they appoint ONE person to give the official statements and tell the other morons to shut up! Can we please elect ADULTS next time?

  6. #6
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:05 am, rfjjulie said:

    It’s a shame they couldn’t get their story straight and send out someone who had been fully briefed himself on the official narrative before briefing the rest of the world.

    Typical Amateur. I hope we can last another year and a half.

  7. #7
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    You didn’t think that this administration could release any information that was completely factual did you? If the facts don’t serve the desired narrative, change them.

    There is also an “icky” backlash among the spineless and naive among us. Just about every MS report I’ve watched or heard ends with a “no need to provoke Muslims any more than we have, they might retaliate” statement or question.

    Who knows what the truth is. But we are fighting a war where we are afraid that the enemy “might retaliate”. Yes, let’s find a way to kill the enemy that won’t upset them so much that they will retaliate. I have a better idea, kill as many of them as we can until they drop the “we welcome death” claims and start begging for mercy. Let’s WIN this thing. Stalemates are expensive and cost us our freedom.

  8. #8
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am, corkie said:

    Remember that the SitRoom was most likely listening to radio audio of transmissions from the team to an operations center somewhere.

    They probably were not hearing the communications that the team were having amongst themselves, and I highly doubt that they were watching much video (although it’s slightly possible that one of the reserve helos was uplinking overhead video of the compound to satellite – but I doubt it).

    So, some of the initial information might have been abbreviated, and some of the pictured observers might have inserted some of their own assumptions into their stories to reporters. Then, the reporters might have inserted some of their own assumptions in writing the story. High level military officers are usually good about only conveying EXACTLY what they hear and see, but civilian staffers often think they’re smart enough to fill in the blanks with their own assumptions.

    I’m sure everyone here has played the game of telephone.

  9. #9
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am, TheWriteJerry said:

    Here’s a novel idea – how about releasing the evidence? Didn’t anyone think to tape the live feed of the raid? It doesn’t have to be released to the media, but they could get a panel of independent analysts to take a look. He had a gun… He didn’t have a gun… He used a human shield… there was no shield… He was buried at sea… next they’ll have him walking on water…

    Evidence always goes down better than hearsay and retractions.

  10. #10
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am, malkin_fan said:

    ….All I know is I take GREAT comfort in knowing the last person bin laden saw before he faded to black was a U.S. military special forces hero.

    May God continue to protect these fine young men.

  11. #11
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 am, Iowa Guy said:

    HAPPYSCRAPPER…could not have said it better myself. you summed up this entire administration in just a few sentences.

  12. #12
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 am, babiesgrandma said:

    That’s what happens when you lie. You have to get your stories straight, and then make sure no one else trips up.

    How much easier it would have been if only they just tell the truth in the first place.

  13. #13
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:13 am, corkie said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am, TheWriteJerry said:

    Here’s a novel idea – how about releasing the evidence? Didn’t anyone think to tape the live feed of the raid?

    I hope nobody thought of burdening the seal team with taping the raid. I hope nobody in Washington was tempted to dictate some stupid, needless requirement to their mission.

  14. #14
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:13 am, YTZGal said:

    The walk-back isn’t a surprise.

    Yesterday, most of the people I know who have actually, you know, operated in a combat area, called “BS” on the “narrative”.

    “It just doesn’t add up”.

    This Admin is run like a HS student council. Frightening.

  15. #15
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 am, corkie said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:04 am, happyscrapper said:

    Why didn’t they appoint ONE person to give the official statements and tell the other morons to shut up!

    I agree with Iowa Guy, happyscrapper. You summed this up well.

  16. #16
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am, corkie said:

    These guys are expected to get their facts straight. This was possibly the most monitored/filmed military exercise ever and they release a statement fraught with key “facts” that prove to be wrong? How about just releasing what they know to be true and let the facts dictate the narrative? These guys are just pathological liars. They have no self-control.

  17. #17
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am, max said:

    The Gang That Couldn’t Spin Straight…

  18. #18
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:19 am, RedDog said:

    Where do these concoctions come from? Does he just ad lib? This whole administration seems to be on cruise control or possibly too many sugar drinks. Children running amock while the adults tend to business in the other room.

  19. #19
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 am, robhic said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am, Pasadena Phil said:
    … about every MS report I’ve watched or heard ends with a “no need to provoke Muslims any more than we have, they might retaliate” statement or question.

    … Yes, let’s find a way to kill the enemy that won’t upset them so much that they will retaliate. I have a better idea, kill as many of them as we can until they drop the “we welcome death” claims and start begging for mercy. Let’s WIN this thing. Stalemates are expensive and cost us our freedom.”

    I like it! Yes, what can we possibly do to make them like us a little less?!?! They’re trying to kill us now. What is “worse”?

    And I really like the bombing them out of the “we love/welcome death” stage. That would be a good thing!

  20. #20
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 am, Marshall_Will said:

    In other news it’s been reported that Brennan and J-Nap are dating.

    What do you expect from a guy that once said Gitmo recidivism is “not that bad”? More than not being able to ‘Spin Straight’ if ever there was a story that didn’t need any sexing up, this was it.

  21. #21
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 am, Flyoverman said:

    This crap happens everytime. That is why the less said the better.

    Now for those second guessers who are now SOOOOOOOO concerned Bin Laden had no weapon………..

    From The Unforgiven:

    Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly ******! You just shot an unarmed man!
    Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself………..

  22. #22
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    This crew is full of bloviating ego-maniacs who are each trying to spin the narrative to take credit for something. It’s a mad rush for the microphone. “Mine! Mine! Mine!”. Just listen to all of the “I ordered this” to the exclusion of anyone else that defined Obama’s official statement.

  23. #23
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am, Jim M. said:

    My view is that the first version is correct.

    The Administrtion’s “clarificaiton” is somewhat disturbing, though. And taken together, the “new” version will only inflame the Jihadists.

    One woman shot when she was being used as a human shield by Bin Laden, can now be viewed as fodder for the accusation that US Forces indiscriminately shoot women and children. Not going further with the clarificaiton to say whether she was armed only creates the resumption that she was not. Especially with this statement:

    However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.”

    This statement will make it clear in the minds of Jihadists that Bin Laden was assassinated, pure and simple. And paint our operators as assassins rather than warriors. It will also open up the floodgates here in the US and give the far left ample evidence for trashing our troops.

    What is stunning about the quotation above is that putting that out there serves no purpose at all. The only people present were those “phoning it in” via a video link, and those operators who were actually there. So why feel the need to “correct the record”? Combat is at lightning speed, where mere fractions of a second divide the line between life and death. And chances are, the moron who spoke off the record had no first hand informaiton on the events that transpired.

    Taking OBL out was a feather in Obama’s cap, and now it seems his quislings are doing everything they can to eliminate the positive of this event.

  24. #24
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am, corkie said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    These guys are expected to get their facts straight.

    Just because they should get their facts straight doesn’t mean that I would expect them to be capable of doing that.

    This was possibly the most monitored/filmed military exercise ever

    What do you mean by filmed?

    and they release a statement fraught with key “facts” that prove to be wrong?

    I already explained the probably reason why so many claims are proving to be wrong.

    How about just releasing what they know to be true and let the facts dictate the narrative?

    Yes, I think happyscrapper summed this up best.

    These guys are just pathological liars. They have no self-control.

    I don’t think any of them were lying. I think many of them were making inaccurate assumptions.

  25. #25
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:25 am, happyscrapper said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am, max said:
    The Gang That Couldn’t Spin Straight…

    I love that!

    How many statements has this WH made over the last two years that have been pulled back, changed, “taken out of context”, or simply, “that’s not what I said”. For some reason, regressives actually think they can pull words back in, change them, and everyone will blindly believe the revised version. And sadly, many do! Even the words that are on tape and video for all the world to see are magically changed! That is the revisionist history we are dealing with these days. And it is scary how many people get sucked into the lies…and ridiculed if you try to tell the truth. Welcome to 1984, our worst nightmare.

  26. #26
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:27 am, letget said:

    I bet they send biden out of the country before he opens his mouth. I bet we never get anything close to the truth what happened with the killing of obl from bho and team! They open mouth, lies fly out!
    L

  27. #27
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:30 am, Marshall_Will said:

    However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.”

    I may be proven wrong but AFAIK, OBL wasn’t actually proficient in the use of firearms. Let alone a marksman or sniper. Of the video footage I’ve seen, you can tell an instructor is just off camera telling him how to get the Safety off. IMHO

  28. #28
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:31 am, thejim said:

    The “Fog of war & combat” coupled with the most amateurish group of “smartest-people-in-the-room” would yield nothing but inaccuracies.The mission went well, the results exemplary only because the team that actually carried it out on the ground are professionals. Now the only thing left to do is have group 1, the amateurs butcher the telling.

  29. #29
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:31 am, IndyRich said:

    First story: intense firefight, Osama shooting at soldiers, using women and children as shields and shooting from behind them like the coward he is.

    Second story: our soldiers shot an unarmed man who wanted to surrender, shot innocent, unarmed women and children that were no threat.

    Anything to make the terrorists look good and the US Military look bad. What to YOU think will drive the terrorists to anger and retaliation faster?

    Thanks, Obama.

  30. #30
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 am, RedDog said:

    “Navy SEALs shot bin Laden after he used a puppy as a shield then attempted to throw a falafel at them.”

    “bin Laden’s wife improvised a quick belly dance to distract the Americans but she was immediately shot by Osama for reasons unknown.”

    “bin Laden was shot while sitting on the toilet reading this month’s edition of True Detective magazine.”

    “The bin Laden family was watching Dancing With The Stars at the time of the raid.”

  31. #31
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am, rightasrain said:

    Why wouldn’t the administration just tell the truth & nothing but? The jihadists hate us no matter what we do. But 90% of the United States is glad that POS is dead & burning in Hell. Tell the truth and you get the support of the American people; spin a different narrative, and you cross your fingers in the hope that the people that already want us dead will want us a little less dead? Is that what this is about??

  32. #32
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am, rightasrain said:

    And as a side note: gross me out that Brennan is dating Napolatano?? Seriously? I hope that’s a joke b/c I almost threw up my breakfast!!

  33. #33
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am, letget said:

    This is a great cartoon by Ramirez today. Thank God for our wonderful men and women in our military!

    http://www.investors.com/EditorialCartoons/Cartoon.aspx?id=570855
    L

  34. #34
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI PASADENA PHIL–#7. My thoughts exactly. There are still millions of Jihadis wanting to kill us. And no matter what happens–it’s a war. And they will bring it on as soon as they can–no matter how “nice” we act towards them.
    ***
    As far as Osama Bin Laden being unarmed–I see an AK-47 or its variants strapped on him or in his hands in most videos and photos. He must have thought he was pretty safe in Pakistan. With their government protecting him–and surrounded by big crowds that love his actions and think he is (was!) the Muslim George Washington.
    ***
    Nothing’s perfect–but payback helps. Like the Bible says, “He who lives by the sword (AK-47) dies by the sword (M4)”. I do like some of Comrade Obama’s actions–like Predator / Hellfire Missile strikes and Special Ops work. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  35. #35
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:37 am, jackblack said:

    This is political correctness in full bloom.
    This whole administration is all about being politically correct. Every statement made needs to be readjusted because it might offend someone else. It is a perverted, twisted, mind set that has no basis in actual truth. Why? Because sometimes the truth hurts. Liberals don’t want to deal with that. This entire way of thinking has no business being anywhere near our armed forces. I think Jack said it best
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg#watch-main-area

  36. #36
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:41 am, Marshall_Will said:

    rightasrain said:
    And as a side note: gross me out that Brennan is dating Napolatano?? Seriously? I hope that’s a joke b/c I almost threw up my breakfast!!

    Yeah, made that up. Sorry! But isn’t “Living in Complete Denial” one of the compatibility traits they measure you for on E-Harmony?

  37. #37
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:41 am, dan708 said:

    The administration account has now been “modified.” You know all that sensational stuff about bin Laden having a gun and using one of his wives as a human shield? Never mind:

    The WH is just like their friends in the media; make stuff up if it suits your purpose.

  38. #38
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:43 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:24 am, corkie said:

    What do you mean by filmed?

    Maybe I should have said “captured” live. This was a well-rehearsed strike and every move apparently was monitored live with audio and I expect cameras on helmets at least. I just can’t believe that they could get something as important and easy to get right as whether Obama was armed and firing at them and using his wife as a shield wrong.

    I believe they got it right the first time and just walked back the narrative to fit their dhimmitude sensibilities. They are probably redacting the tapes already.

  39. #39
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    Brennan is only in his position because he was responsible for “cleaning up” Obama’s passport files. The man who worked for his company and did the breaching of the passport files and was scheduled to meet with investigators about the breaching of the passport files was found dead in his car from a gunshot wound. Murder still unsolved.

    1984 indeed.

  40. #40
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am, Green eyed Lady said:

    How much easier it would have been if only they just tell the truth in the first place.

    They say and do whatever they want.
    So far, it’s working beautifully for them. :roll:

  41. #41
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 am, TigerLady said:

    The WH is just like their friends in the media; make stuff up if it suits your purpose.

    Obowmao wants to be re-elected. This is the purpose. Sanitize everything so he looks better.

    I’m not sure this fairy tale is going to be sanitized enough to overcome our economy; high gas prices, high food prices, high energy prices, high everything. Bid Laden’s death, while a score for our military, doesn’t make much difference in the day to day lives of Americans.

    I savor the victory for our wonderful military. God bless them and keep them safe from nitwits like Obowmao.

  42. #42
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 am, Ray said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:27 am, letget said:
    I bet we never get anything close to the truth what happened with the killing of obl from bho and team!

    It should all be available on wikileaks shortly. :)

  43. #43
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:50 am, mchristian said:

    Um, maybe Brennan mixed it up with Tombstone, which was on over the weekend.

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 am, Flyoverman said:

    From The Unforgiven:

    Just FYI, that movie is Unforgiven. The Unforgiven had Audrey Hepburn playing a Kiowa girl.

  44. #44
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:51 am, Savage24 said:

    Based on past performance, you have to be very gullible to believe anything that come out of this administration. The truth is not in their repertoire. Politicial expedience is all they know.

  45. #45
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:54 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am, rocketman said:

    I’d be surprised if OBL was unarmed but there is reason to believe that he felt safe because he had lived there for six years and the compound was only a coupld of blocks away from Pakistan’s version of West Point. Clearly, he was being protected by the Pakistan government and prior to this mission, we had usually tipped off the ISI.

    That is the key that changes everything going forward. It puts a different light on why we are in Afghanistan which might now be seen as an American base from which to pressure Pakistan. The Taliban have no affection (or respect) for Arabs or Pakistanis.

  46. #46
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    The Unforgiven had Audrey Hepburn playing a Kiowa girl.

    And quite saucily I might add.

  47. #47
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Taliban is a creation of the ISI (Paki Intelligence). They would not exist without the arming and training they received from Pakistan.

  48. #48
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:00 am, Marshall_Will said:
  49. #49
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:02 am, jdtruly said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:36 am, rightasrain said:
    And as a side note: gross me out that Brennan is dating Napolatano?? Seriously? I hope that’s a joke b/c I almost threw up my breakfast!!

    Sounds like a joke. Word is Napolatano doesn’t walk on that side of the street.

    But what bothers me, why won’t they release the death certificate? Ha!

  50. #50
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am, redhandpaddy said:

    More proof positive that Obama, his administration, cabinet members et al are all congenital liars for whom truth is a stranger they have yet to meet even though the truth was being played out in front of them.

  51. #51
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    I thought you people loved America?

    We just got the #1 terrorist in the world and all you can talk about is Brennan’s comments.

    You folks are the worst Americans.

  52. #52
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:11 am, happyscrapper said:

    It is hard to keep track of lies. Only the truth stays constant in re-telling.

    An old quotation says it best…
    “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”.
    ~Sir Walter Scott~

  53. #53
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:12 am, Marshall_Will said:

    jdtruly said: Sounds like a joke. Word is Napolatano doesn’t walk on that side of the street.

    Yeah that was a joke. Just for future ref., when I start out a post w/ “In other news” that = Pure BS. Truthfully, I don’t care which side of the street J-Nap walks on ( as long as it isn’t my side? )

  54. #54
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:12 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Taliban is a creation of the ISI (Paki Intelligence). They would not exist without the arming and training they received from Pakistan.

    They also got a lot of help from us too in driving out the Soviet Army. We were also instrumental in arming and funding Al Quaeda. It’s part of the idiocy.

  55. #55
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am, Peter Hughes said:

    You folks are the worst Americans.

    Pot, meet kettle.

    Ilovemy(commie)country, there are two people on this thread: Americans and liberals. Which are you?

    Checkmate.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  56. #56
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am, Bereans43 said:

    What part of “classified” is so difficult to understand. The details of the mission should remain classified. The only statement should have been “we killed him”. Piecemeal information of the mission that is enhanced and then walked back only displays an attempt to politicaly define a military mission’s execution that is palatable to everyone. War is ugly! War is violent! Those of us who have served do not put a happy face on it. Liberal spin does not change the fact.

  57. #57
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am, RyanInSanJose said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, Ilovemyhanddownmypants said:

    Thanks for the daily chuckle.

  58. #58
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am, Peter Hughes said:

    I should say “two KINDS of people,” but that’s just for the nitpicky ones.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  59. #59
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am, TigerLady said:

    happyscrapper said:

    I personally like “liar, liar, pants on fire” or “the Truth will set you free”.

  60. #60
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am, madmonkphotog said:

    I made these points yesterday on blogs and FB:

    - Brennan was speaking a hundred miles an hour at the press briefing and coming off as cocky during the whole event.

    - I wondered if the White Mosque realized that by saying UBL had gone down fighting our military, they unwittingly made him a martyr in the muslim world.

    - Stating that the U.S. military essentially rushed through the ID process with UBL in order to provide him a muslim burial wouldn’t sit well with the American public, and it hasn’t.

    To the point of UBL possilby being killed while unarmed, we know that ain’t going to sit well with muslims not to mention raise questions. If he was not armed, why kill him? You know that’s coming soon given this ‘clarification’.

  61. #61
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am, Speakup said:

    Maybe this was Hillary’s first real rodeo.

  62. #62
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am, happyscrapper said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, Iloveobamasbum said:
    You folks are the worst Americans.

    Nananananana…Bwwwwahahaha! Seriously lame. Now I KNOW you are 12 years old! :lol:

  63. #63
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am, Paratus said:

    The only ones that know what happened are the people that were there in the room.
    I can see Obama and his “team” watching what ever they saw. “Hey isn’t that a little girl”…”na that’s an end table”…”no that’s a little girl”…”
    They’ll see what they want to see.
    I agree with the posters here that say
    kill’em till they can’t take it any longer.

  64. #64
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am, BeachBum said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, Iloveotherpeoplesmoney said: I’m the Bestest American cause my daddy Bama gives me free education, free housing and free food. I don’t work cause I live off of you stupid worst Americans. Now I’m gonna go watch Valley Girl for the zillionth time on your dime

    FIFY

  65. #65
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am, madmonkphotog said:

    Here’s one other point I made, which seems to make a bit of sense IF UBL was unarmed: Did BHO order UBL to be killed rather than taken alive so as to avoid another KSM/Holder fiasco?

    I’m just spitballing on that one.

  66. #66
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:23 am, rightisright said:

    Can we please elect ADULTS next time?

    We had better, it will be our last chance to do so..

  67. #67
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    Ilovemyhanddownmypants

    Just when I think we have used them all, someone comes up with a winner!

  68. #68
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 am, TigerLady said:

    madmonkphotog said:

    Excellent points!!

  69. #69
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am, Bereans43 said:

    What part of “classified” is so difficult to understand. The details of the mission should remain classified.

    Why? OBL was mythologized by his followers as being protected by Allah and so, untouchable. Now we find him living in luxurious safety, not in caves, calling on everyone else to die for his cause and gets killed using his wife as a shield. The more information that comes out proving that to be true, the more damage to the terrorists among their own ranks. Why should that be classified? We didn’t hush up D-Day or Hiroshima in WWII.

  70. #70
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:00 am, Marshall_Will said:

    Yep, that article dosen’t mention L.Q. Harris being found dead in his car of a gunshot wound. The breaches of Clinton and McCain files were to cover their tracks. They were in there to clean up Obama’s files. Coincidently, his mothers passport files from before 1968 are “missing”. Probabaly also missing is the denounciation of citizenship she filed when Obama became Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen.

  71. #71
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:28 am, happyscrapper said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am, TigerLady said:
    I personally like “liar, liar, pants on fire” or “the Truth will set you free”.

    Also good ones, and TRUE! See…all these quotes have survived over time because they are TRUE! See how that works, regressives? Even the one about your nose is going to grow, is really true. Have you noticed? Look at Anthony Weiner. Waxman comes to mind too, although his nose just started growing toward the sky.

  72. #72
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am, Green eyed Lady said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    Brennan is only in his position because he was responsible for “cleaning up” Obama’s passport files. The man who worked for his company and did the breaching of the passport files and was scheduled to meet with investigators about the breaching of the passport files was found dead in his car from a gunshot wound. Murder still unsolved.

    1984 indeed.

    Brennan also thinks the Muslim Brotherhood is a bunch of cuddly teddy bears. :lol:

  73. #73
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am, happyscrapper said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    VP, there are WAY too many missing and “mysteriously disappeared” documents for this to be anything but a gigantic cover-up. And the press is aiding and abetting treason. Being merely journalistically “uncurious” is no longer an explanation. They are in on it. Unless there is something they missed in purging Obama’s past, we may never know the truth. It has been systematically wiped out, perhaps forever. Sad and frustrating. I do believe the truth about this man is far far more outrageous and convoluted than we will ever know.

  74. #74
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 am, Ralph Gizzip said:

    The Obama Administration: “The Gang That Couldn’t Lie Straight.”

  75. #75
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 am, RyanInSanJose said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    Just when I think we have used them all, someone comes up with a winner!

    It was my first attempt :)

  76. #76
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 am, groundhunter said:

    Where there 22 people at the compound?
    Was there a fire fight?
    Was Osama unarmed? This makes this a kill operation and not capture.
    Were the people in the compound armed and did they risist or were they overwhelmed before they could respond?

  77. #77
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:44 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am, happyscrapper said:

    I believe you are right. The truth has been buried. Just what has been discovered is reason enough to never trust anything that comes from these people.

  78. #78
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:45 am, JerseyRed said:

    Emily L.: Oops, never mind!

  79. #79
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 am, Hiraghm said:

    Who’s the guy in the blue shirt behind Hillary?

  80. #80
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am, EROWMER said:

    On this you can depend. This regime will make up stuff.

  81. #81
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am, Marshall_Will said:

    Virginia Patriot said:

    Yep, that article dosen’t mention L.Q. Harris being found dead in his car of a gunshot wound. The breaches of Clinton and McCain files were to cover their tracks.

    Thanks for sharing this tangent. Very interesting. Again, the things… we should have vetted huh?

  82. #82
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am, 1ConcernedMom said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, IlovemyKool-Aid said:

    Do you even have the ability to think critically, or do you just repeat what you are told?

    Of course those of us who truly love our country are thrilled that Osama is gone. Does that somehow disallow us from being able to look at what the administration is telling us with a critical eye? I think not.

  83. #83
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am, Iowa Guy said:

    I think the bigger bungle is BHO not thanking W for getting the ball rolling.

  84. #84
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm, Rjulio said:

    These people are all morons. If it wasn’t for the professional military, they wouldn’t have found Bin Laden if he had been hiding in the white house toilet. And the moron in chief talked about how “I” did this and “I” ordered that and “I” issued those. This idiot cant find his ass with both hands if he need to.

  85. #85
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm, granite said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 am, LauraW said:

    I find it bizarre OBL was at home with so little security. Most of the people rounded up at the compound were family members. Why did he feel so safe?

    ISI has a LOT of explaining to do.

    Can’t disagree.
    I’ve wondered since hearing about this yesterday whether the muslim brotherhood might have felt that bin Laden had become more of a liability than an asset; and that they gave the word to their “office” in Pakistan to “give up” OBL.
    In whatever way: e.g., passing/leaking info to informants/to American operatives; cutting back on/leaving a chink in bin Laden’s security/protection/secrecy.

    Yes, I know that that is just speculation.

    But these muslim jihadist barbarian savages are essentially gangsters; and, like gangsters, they are interested only in loot and power.
    And, if you’re no longer an asset to a gangster, but become a liability,…well, what do you think happens?
    Hell, that’s how muhammad started 1400 years ago, raiding caravans and murdering people who disagreed with him, didn’t accept him, mocked him…including, of course, the Jews of Arabia.

    Again, speculation.
    But, we are in an existential struggle to protect/save civilization from barbarians; and, we have to consider many, many possibilities, and then reject some; rather than not think of them in the first place.

  86. #86
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm, NotTheMama said:

    So John Brennan did not see what he saw?

  87. #87
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm, granite said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 am, malkin_fan said:

    ….All I know is I take GREAT comfort in knowing the last person bin laden saw before he faded to black was a U.S. military special forces hero.

    May God continue to protect these fine young men.

    Ditto and Amen to that.

  88. #88
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:20 pm, granite said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:12 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    They also got a lot of help from us too in driving out the Soviet Army. We were also instrumental in arming and funding Al Quaeda. It’s part of the idiocy.

    What would you have advised doing in the 1980s?

  89. #89
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    But, we are in an existential struggle to protect/save civilization from barbarians; and, we have to consider many, many possibilities, and then reject some; rather than not think of them in the first place.

    We are in a modern phase of a very old war dating back centuries.

    Islam has always been at war to subjugate the non-Islamic world. For awhile they were beaten back and the influence of Islam was diminished and contained. Its grown more dangerous than ever before and, for now, there are too few with the determination to see it for what it is and to fight it.

  90. #90
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:28 pm, granite said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Correct.

  91. #91
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm, right_on said:

    Recounting what I said when news of Bin Laden’s receipt of Justice broke: “We may never know the real story.”

    Nor may we ever know who was actually involved, although if you use your imagination, it’s not that difficult to figure out.

    Our modern Special Forces units, who cost millions of dollars to train to the highest levels, DO NOT go in on a mission WITHOUT some covert troops on the ground. There is ONLY one group who is purposely trained for this mission, and are THE experts in this…and it isn’t the SEALS.

    As far as information coming from this administration, the walkbacks, etc., use THE RIGHT_ON RULE:

    The opposite of what’s said is the truth.right_on

    As with most progressive positive’s, wait a few hours, or a few days, and watch them pull defeat out of the mouth of victory.

    This story is being managed, (as always) for Obama’s political advantage. Instead of purity, we get what we always get from these guys;

    fantasy, fiction, and fornicated facts…

  92. #92
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:33 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Well lets see -
    Sock Puppet goes to War, for what reason I do not know considering Syria is doing the same to its people but i digress,
    Sock Puppet goes to war with Libya, that did not give him the numbers he needs
    Sock Puppet releases his Birth cert – no bounce there
    Now our Dear leader, with the fawning press calling him a Warrior President – christ I am trying not to throw up – trying to claim all the credit for OBL death, when actually it was the CIA and Navy SEALS against all odds and in spite of the Sock Puppet and his minions.
    But poor Sock Puppet, even with the lap dog press – still cannot get that bounce.

  93. #93
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm, BadIdeaGuy said:

    This can’t be true. Not the same John Brennan who met with the Saudi Security Chief, who personally came to brief top US officials on the looming threat of underwear bombers two months before the underwear bomber, then said we had no way of knowing that someone could use underwear to conceal a bomb…

  94. #94
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    This story is being managed, (as always) for Obama’s political advantage. Instead of purity, we get what we always get from these guys;

    The story is also being managed to shape the battlefield and deceive the enemy.

    The politicians can do their thing, but the military and intelligence services have a war to win. If that involves lying and deception, so be it.

  95. #95
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:39 pm, Roland said:

    Of course those of us who truly love our country are thrilled that Osama is gone. Does that somehow disallow us from being able to look at what the administration is telling us with a critical eye? I think not.

    Ilovepretending thinks he is “giving us back our own medicine.” He thinks our love of our country is the same as his, and he takes great umbrage at our saying loons like him on the left are unpatriotic or even traitorous.

    He feels dependent on America, and he confuses that feeling with love. He does not understand that when you love something, you defend it from the people who are always villifying it. When you love something, you give it the benefit of the doubt.

    So, for instance, he is too thickheaded to comprehend those who claimed “America invaded Iraq for the oil” were America bashing and undermining our troops, and if he loves America, he should loathe and despise those people, while those who say Obama is attacking Libya “for European’s to get oil” are not attacking America at all. Just the opposite.

    The left (Democrat Party) is filled with America haters and enablers of America haters. It really does not matter which kind Ilovepretending is, since neither kind of leftwing loon loves America.

  96. #96
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 pm, tre said:

    I’ve just learned that, out of respect for islam, this is the official version of the story being released:

    When the SEALs kicked in the door, OBL leaped to his feet, screamed a karate yell, and knocked out two SEALs with round kicks. As another SEAL was drawing a bead on OBL, he karate-chopped his rifle in two, then broke his jaw with a spinning-backfist. OBL then whipped out two sets of nunchucks, and in a flurry of karate yells and flying sticks, SEALs were getting knocked out just left and right. Then, as a cowardly SEAL was about to cold-bloodedly shoot his favorite wife, OBL courageously placed himself in front of her and took the bullet meant for her.

    Chris Matthews will report that tonight.

  97. #97
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am, Iflogmydolphin said:

    123 redlight! 123 redlight! 123..aw the heck with it! I couldn’t stop if I wanted to!

  98. #98
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:20 pm, granite said:

    What would you have advised doing in the 1980s?

    I wasn’t judging. I was responding to VPat’s comment pointing out that the ISI created the Taliban after I commented that the Taliban has no affection for Pakistan or Arabs. I should have added: “So what?”.

  99. #99
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    granite said:

    And, if you’re no longer an asset to a gangster, but become a liability,…

    Truer words were never spoken. Col. Ralph Peters ( great guy btw ) said as much last night. His sense was the Paki’s felt they could keep him as an ace in the hole when the appropriate time came?

    ( Like when CUT-OFF Aid, like I think we’re about fix’n to do? )

  100. #100
    On May 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm, right_on said:

    The story is also being managed to shape the battlefield and deceive the enemy.

    If I gave you a list of ten objectives, where would this one rank? You’re thinking like a patriot…a defender of freedom, NOT like a progressive. In a rational world, you would be right, and I whole-heartedly agree with you. But, in the mind of a “worlder,” the ONLY shaping of a battlefield is in a POLITICAL war against conservative values.

    (1) We are scheduled to pull out of both theaters of operations, Iraq, and Afganistan, soon. (2) Libya has been labeled by this administration as an “un-war.” (3) The preferred method of attack is from protected aircraft, and the Predator/Reaper drones.

    So, what battlefield , and what enemy are you addressing?

    In my mind there’s only one battlefield in Obama’s near future, and it’s entirely political. Remember, his playbook is “Rules for Radicals,” not The Art of War,” by Sun Tsu!

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