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1. #1
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:37 pm, txvet2 said:

   Good for them. Unfortunately, they’ll probably get stonewalled. It seems to be the M.O. for this administration.

2. #2
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:38 pm, Cogs said:

   Geting bigger every day.

3. #3
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:41 pm, letget said:

   I got this off mypetjawa and from what they say, bho is mentioned in this mess. Please let it be so along with holder.

   http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/208612.php
   Thanks Michelle for keeping us up to date on this.
   L

4. #4
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:42 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Stonewalled? OK then the Republicans should cut ICE and ATF budgets in half. So the Senate and Dingy Harry won’t go along–shut down the government until we get some answers.

   And then still cut ATF’s budget in half. Hardball people, hardball.
   ===
   Cut the budget:

   Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
   should be a convenience store-
   NOT a government agency.

5. #5
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm, Truesoldier said:

   To liberals this is just another ends justify the means situation…

6. #6
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm, swmntman said:

   … House Republicans are turning up the heat on several agencies.

   My idea of turning up the heat is when these letters are delivered by people with badges and guns…. but then again, what enforcement agency oversees the US Attorney General and ATF agency? This is looking like the KGB of the USA…

7. #7
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:48 pm, flmom said:

   Obama signed the executive order limiting the sales of of certain rifles yesterday. So this was either: shutting the barn door after the horse had bolted or: the end game of the administration. Take your pick.

8. #8
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:51 pm, hawkeye54 said:

   Obama signed the executive order limiting the sales of of certain rifles yesterday. So this was either: shutting the barn door after the horse had bolted or: the end game of the administration. Take your pick.

   End game. Didn’t matter that this was the outcome of the gunwalker operation. The Pretender in Chief no doubt had contingency plans whatever the result. He’s gonna go what he’s gonna do ’til someone stops him.

9. #9
   On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, Lindsay said:

   flmom: I vote for end game, please.

10. #10
    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, puhiawa said:

    At some point in time a few Democrats are going to get pissed at BATF. And where the hell is Henry Waxman?

11. #11
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:02 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    I’ll I want to know is when does the most transparent administration ever go to jail. (munching popcorn) More cheese Gromit!

12. #12
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, puhiawa said:
    At some point in time a few Democrats are going to get pissed at BATF.

    Only if they don’t get gun control passed. Remeber to liberals guns are what kill people not the person who pulls the trigger (or the ATF/DOJ program that allows these guns to end up in the hands of killers)

13. #13
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm, cheapseat said:

    ICE won’t arrest and deport MS-13 gangsters, but will give them guns. If there is a plan here, it is obvious that it is to kill americans, especially those mean ugly white conservative americans.

14. #14
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm, SkyePuppy said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:42 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    Hardball people, hardball.

    Unfortunately, the GOP members of Congress only know how to play Nerf ball.

15. #15
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:19 pm, knucklehead said:

    So far these Congresscritters investigating all of these shenanigans remind me off an old boxer dog my grandmother used to own. He looked mean and could scare anyone walking up to the house but he had no teeth! He would have had to gum someone to death. (he had knocked them all out playing with a porch swing. Not the brightest dog there ever was). Anyway, until somebody with teeth goes after these rats in this administration then it all appears to be nothing but theater. Lots of yelling and gesturing and then it fades away and is forgotten. I hope I’m wrong and those guilty of breaking laws will be thrown in (or under) prison.

16. #16
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:25 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, puhiawa said:

    At some point in time a few Democrats are going to get pissed at BATF. And where the hell is Henry Waxman?

    If these projects ultimately caused the 2nd Amendment to be significantly damaged, Waxman and every Democrat would not care in the least where the guns went, who got them, how they were used, or who and how many died.

    The Progressive Cost of Doing Business

17. #17
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:31 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    This site is also following the Fast and Furious story so you may want to check it for updates http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/ he has an email “As a service for tipsters who want to see those responsible for these operations held to account, we are now opening a secure email tipline” gunwalkertips@hushmail.com

    Writer mentions a fall guy, stay tuned to see if the name Kenneth Blanco hits the press.

18. #18
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:33 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    MM said:

    I noted brewing questions

    Oh goody goody! Those are my favorite kind of questions! ( Motions to commence “the wave” )

    Yeah, squirm, squirm. All these years every Dem, Prog and Lib worth their salt has been foaming at the mouth for a replay of Watergate! ( Well.., there ya’ GO! )

19. #19
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm, LexGreen said:

    This is what happens when you put lawyers and politicians in charge of a Law Enforcement agency, they use it for politicial purposes. I suggest that anyone interested go read the blogs at cleanupatf.org. Very interesting post by ATF street agents including Jay Dobyns and Vince Cefelu. If some of what they talk about on their blog is true, it is very disturbing. They are accusing the upper mgmt in the ATF of retaliation against anyone who reports waste fraud or abuse, lawlessness by supervisors and manufacturing evidence against American citizens. There are patriots in the ATF, they just need to be heard. As an NFA collector i’d rather get my $200 tax stamp from them than the secret service or the fbi.

20. #20
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:38 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    This is probably just the tip of the ICEberg.

21. #21
    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    AG Holder is deeply committed to gun control, as is his favorite party pal, Obama. They will stop at nothing to get guns out of the hands of law abiding AMERICAN citizens – by any means necessary.

22. #22
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:03 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Unfortunately, the GOP members of Congress only know how to play Nerf ball.

    Nope. They only know how to play games where no balls are required.

23. #23
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:11 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    LexGreen said:

    Lex, you know I love ya’ like a brother, and thanks for heartening us w/ the good news but for some reason.., I’m reluctant to click on the link?

    Any chance we could go to Change.’org’ and get a Petition going to have all these a-h0les investigated? Nah, didn’t think so.

24. #24
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:13 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:37 pm, txvet2 said:

    Good for them. Unfortunately, they’ll probably get stonewalled. It seems to be the M.O. for this administration.

    Michelle Obama?

25. #25
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:14 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Connecting the dots is vital!! All these things are connected and all go straight to the top!! We continue to see things like this repeated all over and so often they are treated as separate issues. For example, have you heard about the teacher scandal in Omaha, where teaches were cheating on their student’s achievements and making them score higher? This has apparently been going on for 10 years. And it is tied to their pay. Hmmm…go figure. Anyway, they are now noticing the strange phenomenon occuring elsewhere, including DC. Could this be the same kind of cheating? Oh gee, I don’t know!

26. #26
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:17 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, puhiawa said:
    At some point in time a few Democrats are going to get pissed at BATF. And where the hell is Henry Waxman?

    We haven’t heard from him in a while. I believe he ran out in a heavy rainstorm and drowned.

    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:38 pm, Cogs said:
    Geting bigger every day.

    So WHEN ARE HEADS GOING TO ACTUALLY START ROLLING?????????

27. #27
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:27 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:17 pm, happyscrapper said:
    So WHEN ARE HEADS GOING TO ACTUALLY START ROLLING?????????

    Are they Union? Did they support Barry Soetoro in 2008?

28. #28
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:33 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, FirstSkirt said:
    AG Holder is deeply committed to gun control, as is his favorite party pal, Obama. They will stop at nothing to get guns out of the hands of law abiding AMERICAN citizens – by any means necessary.

    It is the ONLY way to take over this country. As long as we have guns, they can’t finish the job of destroying America!

    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm, SkyePuppy said:
    Unfortunately, the GOP members of Congress only know how to play Nerf ball.

    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:03 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    Nope. They only know how to play games where no balls are required.

    Post of the Week!! +1000

29. #29
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:36 pm, LexGreen said:

    Marshall_Will said:

    I’m pretty sure the website is safe. I was directed there by sipseystreetirregulars back in January. The website was started by Vince Cefelu, one of the first whistleblowers. I’m by no means defending the ATF, just saying that there are street agents in the ATF that support the 2nd and believe in the oath they took to defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Before i started reading that blog, i was all for the elimination of the ATF, now, not so sure. I do know that there is widespread corruption and law breaking in the mgmt of the ATF as well as all departments in our .gov.

    III

30. #30
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:37 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:17 pm, happyscrapper said:
    On July 13th, 2011 at 12:59 pm, puhiawa said:
    At some point in time a few Democrats are going to get pissed at BATF. And where the hell is Henry Waxman?
    We haven’t heard from him in a while. I believe he ran out in a heavy rainstorm and drowned.

    He’s a snowblower for all the those snowstorms in July.

31. #31
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:46 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I think these gun stores should be forced to report all gun sales involving Fed agents to the NRA. The NRA is more serious about enforcing gun laws than our law enforcement agencies.

32. #32
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:47 pm, happyscrapper said:

    He’s a snowblower for all the those snowstorms in July.

    As long as he doesn’t blow his nose! He’d wipe out an entire city!

33. #33
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:50 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    happy said:

    And where the hell is Henry Waxman?
    We haven’t heard from him in a while. I believe he ran out in a heavy rainstorm and drowned.

    No.., that is the POTW! Lol, when we were kids we had this one Nun and while the nicest lady, her nose was so naturally upturned ( mom said the same thing )

    I’ve never believed any sitting pRez has truly worried about any kind armed ‘uprising’ here in America. I really don’t. That their command of the situation will ever deteriorate to that degree?

    At least that’s been their perception. Elitists figure we’re all a bunch of drunk rednecks anyway? In that vein it’s been more about threatening to take away ‘the national pastime’. Just more exercising of control.

    Not that Holder and Obie aren’t certified freaks? Push come to shove they’d plan to just cut power, shut off the water, curtail/control food delivery etc. Allow riots to run their course.

    We’re doing all the right things right now!

34. #34
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:50 pm, Paratus said:

    You mean Waxman has taken over Monica’s job as a blower? Snow and related areas?

35. #35
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:52 pm, Savage24 said:

    The federal government using federal agencies to break federal laws, so that the federal government can inpose more federal laws on the people that didn’t break the law. Really smells bad does it not.

36. #36
    On July 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    As long as he doesn’t blow his nose! He’d wipe out an entire city!

    He’s more than welcome to do that to Berkeley. Get him into a sneezing fit and he can take care of entire bay area for that matter.

37. #37
    On July 13th, 2011 at 3:04 pm, Hangfire said:

    And where the hell is Henry Waxman?
    We haven’t heard from him in a while.

    I heard him recently.

    He was riding a motorcycle without a faceshield, and all the dogs in the neighborhood were going wild!

38. #38
    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    We rarely use guns to kill people and take their country. The cleanest way is to blackmail, pervert, bribe, lie and intimidate the POLITICIANS and the MEDIA, and they will destabilize and disunify their own country for us. Then all we have left to do is to arm the procommunist or simply criminal factions and we have a coup and another “liberated” country. As neat as that.

    - Former “journalist” for RIA Novosti and former KGB informant, Yuri Bezmenov, in his 1984 “Love Letter to America”

39. #39
    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm, happyscrapper said:

    He was riding a motorcycle without a faceshield, and all the dogs in the neighborhood were going wild!

    Can you just imagine all the insects in that schnoz??? Eewwwww!!

40. #40
    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    The cleanest way is to blackmail, pervert, bribe, lie and intimidate the POLITICIANS and the MEDIA, and they will destabilize and disunify their own country for us.

    That part seems to be working like a charm here.

    Then all we have left to do is to arm the procommunist or simply criminal factions and we have a coup and another “liberated” country.

    Still working out the kinks on this part. Operation Gun Walker appears to have set them back a bit.

41. #41
    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:35 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    This is a scandal that screams of a connection to the White House.

    And aside from the recklessness of it, it also screams of being a tool to create a crisis that this anti-gun administration could exploit.

42. #42
    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:55 pm, Paratus said:

    The effort to restrict guns is working out well for the Administration. Set up a crisis like this and all the Admin. has to say is look how easy it is to get guns into the hands of the wrong people.Nice little set up with a backdoor exit.

43. #43
    On July 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm, Common Sense said:

    Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
    should be a convenience store-
    NOT a government agency.

    I loved this quote and sent it to my family. My brother told me that there actually is an ATF store in Bailey, CO (a few miles from our family cabin) and my Dad sent a link to the picture:
    
    Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms

44. #44
    On July 13th, 2011 at 5:11 pm, yaymm said:

    Issa and Grassley are rapidly approaching the time for an Independent Prosecutor. They can only find people in contempt of Congress, or lying to Congress. The prosecutor can bring criminal charges of any kind and use the career investigators he will have available to really bring this boil to the popping point.

    The destruction of evidence is already visibly rampant and proving how utterly contemptable and unlawful these shenanigans have been. It is going to be difficultto find real evidence now.

    On the other hand, the people who created all those documents and emails are still available. They are sweating bullets now. They can be forced to testify and/or can be jailed for obstructing justice. Will they risk that to keep quiet? Not likely.

    The big question now is, who can fill the role of an un-corruptable Special Prosecutor, or Independent Counsel?

45. #45
    On July 13th, 2011 at 5:20 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Well.. not Elliot Spitzer.

46. #46
    On July 13th, 2011 at 5:30 pm, Hangfire said:

    Robert Bork

47. #47
    On July 13th, 2011 at 5:41 pm, Paratus said:

    No one high up is going to be charged due to fast and furious or gunwalker or operation castaway. Not Holder and certainly not the President. Maybe there’ll be a fall guy or guys.

48. #48
    On July 13th, 2011 at 8:57 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Just a reminder that investigative bloggers at Sipsey Street Irregulars and David Codrea, who broke the Tampa stories, could not confirm from their sources that Operation Castaway was tied to the Tampa gunwalking allegations, but they report that two sources are pointing to ATF misdeeds that led to 200 firearms ending up in Honduran hands.

    I wonder how forthcoming ATF Tampa would have been if not for some sources providing material. How many months has this Gunwalker story been out there?

    How many documents have been shredded in Tampa since then?

    As for whether they are connected or not, I would be shocked if they were not. Crap ideas like this tend to float to the top in the federal bureaucracy, while good ideas get flushed.

49. #49
    On July 13th, 2011 at 9:14 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 4:35 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    This is a scandal that screams of a connection to the White House.

    And aside from the recklessness of it, it also screams of being a tool to create a crisis that this anti-gun administration could exploit.

    I wish Michelle or Doug with their resources would do a time line on this.

    I would like to know at what point Urkel and others in his gang of thugs started flooding the media with their whining of guns going to Mexico, and at which point the Gunwalker story first came out…which I believe was after their whining started.

    I believe it was SOLELY a tool to implement more gun laws, because if I recall correctly, Urkel and his thugs were making a big deal of guns to Mexico a few months prior to the first reporting on Gunwalker.

    If they were doing it then, was it because they KNEW guns were being allowed to “walk” over the border?

    It seemed like such a contrived issue at the time they were whining about it.

50. #50
    On July 13th, 2011 at 9:48 pm, GraniteMan said:

    Obama gives guns to the bad guys and tries to take away guns from the good guys. And people bitched about George.

51. #51
    On July 13th, 2011 at 10:35 pm, elgringoviejo said:

    I keep thinking about Mr. Obama stating he had transferred sufficient resources to the Mexican border so now he was able to search 100% of the SOUTHBOUND shipments.

52. #52
    On July 14th, 2011 at 12:02 am, Ronin said:

    Never let a crisis go to waste– even if you have to create the crisis yourself. Hey, we get to restrict gun rights even further– and we get to stick it to small businesses (gun-shop owners) at the same time!

53. #53
    On July 14th, 2011 at 12:18 am, cabrerski said:

    On July 13th, 2011 at 1:33 pm, Marshall_Will said:
    Yeah, squirm, squirm. All these years every Dem, Prog and Lib worth their salt has been foaming at the mouth for a replay of Watergate!

    I really get annoyed at the comparisions of Watergate to Fast and Furious. Just like when the left calls someone they don’t like a Hitler clone.

    Last time I checked, Watergate did not result in a federal agent being killed in the line of duty.

54. #54
    On July 14th, 2011 at 1:06 am, donnyvee said:

    I wish wikileaks would hack the the ATF!

55. #55
    On July 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Arming the procommunist and criminal factions has always been a standard part of the Marxist’s playbook:

    We rarely use guns to kill people and take their country. The cleanest way is to blackmail, pervert, bribe, lie and intimidate the POLITICIANS and the MEDIA, and they will destabilize and disunify their own country for us. Then all we have left to do is to arm the procommunist or simply criminal factions and we have a coup and another “liberated” country. As neat as that.

    - Former “journalist” for RIA Novosti and former KGB informant, Yuri Bezmenov, in his 1984 “Love Letter to America”

56. #56
    On July 14th, 2011 at 9:47 pm, Savage24 said:

    I guess the ex-mayor of Columbus NM is not high enough on the political food chain. He pleads guilty in federal court to gun running charges. To bad we can’t nail some of those Washington DC bueaucrats and put them where they belong. As I’ve been saying, the next flight Air Force One makes should be to the nearest federal prison.

57. #57
    On July 18th, 2011 at 2:41 pm, doriangrey said:

    Operation “Fast and Furious” The California connection.

    Anyone want to dare to suggest, given that all the decisions made in the Phoenix “Fast and Furious” were made in San Fransisco (can you say, Ninth Circuit Court?) and Los Angeles that the FBI/ATF/DOJ in California didn’t do all the exact same things that they did in Phoenix? Have you been to California lately?