Finally: Cantor and Obama come to blows
Photo source: Official White House pic, November 2010
There’s dispute over whether the thin-skinned commander-in-chief stormed out of the meeting, left in a huff, or what, but all agree: GOP House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and President Obama had a moment.
It’s about time:
When Cantor said the two sides were too far apart to get a deal that could pass the House by the Treasury Department’s Aug. 2 deadline — and that he would consider moving a short-term debt-limit increase alongside smaller spending cuts — Obama began to lecture him.
“Eric, don’t call my bluff,” the president said, warning Cantor that he would take his case “to the American people.” He told Cantor that no other president — not Ronald Reagan, the president said — would sit through such negotiations.
Democratic sources dispute Cantor’s version of Obama’s walk out, but all sides agree that the two had a blow up. The sources described Obama as “impassioned” but said he didn’t exactly storm out of the room.
The last memorable public exchange between the two — during one of Obama’s Kabuki suck-up summits — was cringe-inducing. Remember? Flashback February 2009:
Looks like some GOP leaders have finally taken to heart what I said last November — The grass-roots conservative midterm message was clear: No surrender, no compromise, no capitulation.
In fact, I’ll repeat every word of what I said on Nov. 3, 2010, because it bears repeating today:
Take Your Olive Branch and Shove It, Democrats
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010
On the eve of a historic midterm election upheaval, President Barack Obama tried to walk back his gratuitous slap at Americans who oppose his radical progressive agenda. “I probably should have used the word ‘opponents’ instead of ‘enemies’ to describe political adversaries,” Obama admitted Monday. “Probably”?
Here is an ironclad certainty: It’s too little too late for the antagonist-in-chief to paper over two years of relentless Democratic incivility and hate toward his domestic “enemies.” Voters have spoken: They’ve had enough. Enough of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner’s rhetorical abuse. Enough of his feints at bipartisanship. Whatever the final tally, this week’s turnover in Congress is a GOP mandate for legislative pugilism, not peace. Voters have had enough of big government meddlers “getting things done.” They are sending fresh blood to the nation’s Capitol to get things undone.
Just two short years ago, Obama campaigned as the transcendent unifier. “Young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled, Americans have sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of red states and blue states,” he proclaimed. “We have been and always will be the United States of America.”
It’s been an Us vs. Them freefall ever since.
“We don’t mind the Republicans joining us,” Obama taunted a few weeks ago. “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”
“They’re counting on young people staying home and union members staying home and black folks staying home,” the fear-mongering agent of hope and change jeered on the campaign trail last month.
“You would think they’d be saying thank you,” he sneered last April, when millions turned out for the nationwide Tax Day tea party protests.
“I want them just to get out of the way” and “don’t do a lot of talking,” he scoffed in response to prescient critics of the federal trillion-dollar stimulus boondoggle.
In addition to labeling GOP opponents of his open-borders policies “enemies” who needed to be “punished” by Latino voters, Obama accused them — that is, us — of lacking patriotism. “Those aren’t the kinds of folks who represent our core American values,” he told viewers of the Spanish-language network Univision.
Democratic leaders have taken their cue from Team Obama’s persistent politics of polarization.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer called vocal citizens who protested the federal health care takeover bill during the town hall revolts of 2009 “un-American,” too. Remember? “These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American,” Pelosi and Hoyer blasted in an op-ed piece for USA Today last summer. “Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.”
This from the woman who called for a vengeful government investigation of grassroots opponents of the Ground Zero mosque.
Obama’s pal Rep. Alan Grayson of Florida, whom the president hailed as an “outstanding” member of Congress, accused Republicans of wanting elderly people to “die quickly” and of presiding over a “holocaust in America.” Vice President Joe Biden hailed Grayson as a “guy who doesn’t back away from a fight, and doesn’t back down from what he believes in” and told him at a fundraiser: “We owe you one, buddy.” No mention of Grayson’s smear of a female Federal Reserve adviser as a “K Street whore.”
In California, entrenched incumbent jerk Pete Stark derided immigration enforcement activists at a town hall by asking: “Who are you going to kill today?” To an elderly constituent who opposed the health care bill, Stark retorted: “I wouldn’t dignify you by peeing on your leg. It wouldn’t be worth wasting the urine.”
As voters who have been maligned by the ruling majority as stupid, unwashed, racist, selfish and violent headed to the polls Tuesday, Democrats released “talking points” attacking Republican leaders who “are not willing to compromise.” But “no compromise” is exactly the message that un-American Americans delivered to Washington this campaign season:
No more compromising deals behind closed doors.
No more compromising bailouts in times of manufactured crisis.
No more compromising conservative principles for D.C. party elites.
No more compromising the American economy for left-wing special interests.
No more compromising transparency and ethics for bureaucratic self-preservation.
Let us be clear, in case it hasn’t fully sunk into the minds of Obama and the trash-talking Democrats yet: You can take your faux olive branch and shove it.
Thank you.
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Another slight improvement.
Gee could that be that it is still primary season, so people are divided on whom they would like to see take on the one. Talk to me again in about a year from now when we know who the Republican nominee is.
No Republican would feed them tofu,
Perfect!
Pure evil incarnate!
At which time the LSM and Dems will go full throttle on personal destruction with the intent of leaving the GOP nominee a hollow political shell only worthy of derision and contempt.
Cantor is the Man!!!
If the Dems want him out of the discussions, then he is doing his job. McConnell and Boehner, take note.
Umm. This ABC poll asked a bunch of one-on-one polls against Obama. It’s not asking “only pick one against Obama”, it says here’s the entire list. Vote between the Obama and the Republican in each matchup. See the inset link for the results.
Link
Then why do we even bother voting?
I don’t know what poll you’re looking at, even Ron Paul beats Obambi.
I’m not saying this is static. I’m only pointing out that all the excitement over a ‘generic Republican’ winning should be tempered by the fact that no Republican nominee, when named in a poll, has topped Obama.
It could, and probably will, happen. As we get closer to the election things will change, for sure. We just don’t know which way yet and for what reason.
That worked out real well for Grayson. It was the most satisfying vote that I have ever cast.
I know what will happen. The Republican candidate will be winning, the communists will pull shenanigans, Obama will “win”, the establishment Republicans won’t challenge it…
And the civil war begins in the streets.
On July 14th, 2011 at 1:21 pm, Lindsay said:
Well, the day after doom and seniors go into breadlines, if you have $35K you can go to the Bammy Birthday Bash!
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/07/14/gops-big-debt-ceiling-card-obamas-birthday-bash/
I’m not paying that kind of money for Obambi’s birthday party without seeing the birth certificate.
Yup. You win the election, you’re happy.
If you lose, you already put an excuse out well in advance. Nice!
And as John Deaux says, “Then why do we even bother voting?”
John Candy staring as Eric Cantor John Diehl staring as Barack Obama .
An excuse for what? If we lose the election, the only hope left for saving the republic is open warfare with you communists.
I’m hoping y’all stick to your standard battle tactic of “human waves”….
Bingo!!! This whole excercise is just silly this early in the game. We don’t even have all the candidates declared yet!! One thing I do know, however…Obama is not doing so well, and is losing his grip. This will not be pretty.
And, quite frankly, as of now, the only way we can lose this election is if you commies perform your usual election shenanigans.
For the illusion that this we have a fair and free electoral system, for the illusion that any warm body over 18 (or cold body, in the Chicago area) should have a say in the future of the republic.
. +1,000!
Sincere question: what will conservatives do if Obama wins again in ’12? What do you see as options? (I’m assuming “civil war in the streets” is an exaggeration and that none of you will start shooting your Democratic neighbors.
)
An excuse for why you lost the election. Duh.
Open warfare ‘with you’ communists? You sound like Ilovemycountry with the ‘you’ people talk.
And I find it comical you call me a communist. I know you like using big talking-point words. Beck taught you well. I’m sure you have a quota on how many times you have to say Alinsky, marxist, communists, etc. Just try to use them appropriately.
You might be wrong about that! I will have my iron skillet out and ready, because there WILL be chaos and violence. I suspect, however, that the violence will come when the government runs out of other people’s money and the TAKERS realize their gravy train has derailed!!
happy, I love you and your skillet.
But if you lived in Prairie Village, I don’t think you would really run out and conk me in the head.
Ahh….
StaceyOfLiberty said: something really goofy.
Speaking of goofy – do any of you follow Mitch McConnell (idiot from Kentucky)?
Well he thinks we should do away with elections because it seems Americans keep voting for people who disagree with him.
What is this guy? A Republican? A conservative? A RINO? What do you conservatives consider an elected “leader” who wants to change the consitiution because “elections don’t work”?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/07/13/267791/mcconnell-hates-democracy/
PS happy, I thought of you the other day when I considered buying a cast iron skillet at Target!
Thank God he’s not against Republics, and this is not a democracy.
So you made sure to find one with a strong handle. Lots of torque required for slamming people in the head.
Screw you; I was making the points Beck is making now 20 years ago. I’ve always been ahead of his curve (he has the handicap of being a reformed liberal).
I can’t recall the last time I said “Alinksy” or “Marxist”.
For me, the world boils down into two camps; the collectivists and the individualists.
“You communists” in this context would be everyone on your side of this argument. If you have a problem being associated with communists, I suggest you change your ideology.
I never read “Atlas Shrugged” until I saw the movie. But once I saw the movie, and started seeing my independent philosophy put forward, I sought the book out.
And in that book there is one phrase that could be at the heart of my philosophy:
That boils my ideology down into a nutshell. If you don’t feel that INDIVIDUALS must deal by trade, must give value for value, and that only the individual involved can determine “value”, then you’re “you communists”.
I agree with scrapper; the violence will begin with the social parasites when the inevitable result of Obama’s policies come to pass. And when those of us who are fed up with putting up with socialist dogma and political correctness encounter this, we will not chuckle indulgently. We’ll organize and try fighting to save the republic.
I actually just wanted a better pan for my vegan banana pecan pancakes. (Which are already, no lie, the greatest pancakes ever.)
What good would it do to slam leftists in the head? Need to slam them in their crotches, since, evidently that’s where most of their thinking is done…
You lost the argument. Thanks for playing!!
Says the party of Vitter, Craig, Sanford, and Ensign.
It’s largely a male problem, not a ‘leftist’ problem.
Re: Atlas Shrugged: What did people think of the rape-y sex scenes? I guess some people are into that fantasy, but I always find it disgusting. The old-time romance novels used to be that way, too.
Right? I have never given anyone cause to slam me in the crotch. Sheesh.
All the Liberals have to count on for Nov. 2012 is that Obama wins against any identified Republican candidate. As has been said on this thread by others, they refuse to see that the vote among all Republican candidates is split.
When you add up all the Republican’s numbers together, which is just about how Republicans will vote (along with lots of Independents), Obama loses….big time. That’s why Obama and the Democratic leadership are in a panic and attacking so hard, so early.
If the polls show Obama is guaranteed to lose big, do you really think the Democratic leadership is going to back him anyway? Do you think the big donors are going to pony up the big bucks for a sure loser? Will Soros dump money into a sure loser?
Be afraid, be very afraid Democrats and Liberals.
yaymm, respectfully, I think you are misunderstanding how that poll was set up. In any case, it’s so early that it’s hardly worth talking about. It’s a long way to November ’12.
You made my point for me. The pollster went down a list of R candidates vs obama and said would you vote for this candidate. So once again I say come back and talk to me again when there is a poll that says who would you vote for Obama or (name of the yet to be named GOP candidate). Until then there are too many options and people will have favorites.
Although I’m English I totally agree with the above. Our conservative PM(small c) who is no longer a Conservative doubled foreign aid. India is spending billions on a space programme yet receives foreing aid, go figure. Taxpayer enforced FA goes to African dictators who buy fleets of luxury cars & private jets, which is known, yet still the money flows to them.
I now refuse to donate to cahrity, well except the local hospice which I know uses all the donations itself.
Our PM stated categorically that the UK would not spend one more £ in bailouts for Greece, what did the bas**** do this week in a late night parliament session, more than doubled our contribution to the IMF from £9 + billion to £20 + billion, the extra money is for another bailout to Greece, the PM actually thinks the public are so stupid as to believe his crap (come to think of it many do) and the other PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece & Spain. Plenty of blogs have posted all the MPs that voted for the increase to the IMF. The bailouts are to prop up the euro and keep the career criminals in the luxury they’ve become accustomed too. Not content with the IMF increase the energy secretary who has 7, yes 7 houses announced more spending on greenshit windmills which mean our energy bills will reach levels that only the rich can afford in a couple of years. The elderly and low paid are already struggling to heat & eat.
People say politicans and the political elite are stupid, they are not, they know exactly what they’re doing. Slowly but surely their policies will do for us all, but the rich and favoured groups will be looked after.
They’re legislating death policies, all deaths from the cold will be blamed on climate change. Still I suppose it’ll save people euthanasing themselves, governments will happily oblige.
Dick Morris is an excellent pollster but amiserable prognosticator. That said, he made a statement concerning the polls last night. In his years of polling he’s found that 85% of undecideds break against the incumbent on Election Day.
Throw those numbers in and Barky is in even worse trouble.
Hannity just reported a few minutes ago on his show that Obama, Reid and McConnell are met separately today in a closed meeting to strategize about how to get a bill through the House. Oy.
Forgot to mention, all the money our PM is donating to foreign aid and the IMF and the waging the war in Libya has to be borrowed to pay for it all.
We are almost bankrupt, if not actually bankrupt, yet they borrow to give to other countries. It’s why I know they’re not stupid, because even the most stupid of people know not to borrow to give to someone else.
Not one to be a conspiracy theorist but it seems to me that there’s a conspiracy in plain sight to deliberately bring every western country to its knees.
These polls are run by the LSM and lots of organizations funded by leftists with direct ties to George Soros. You can look it up, starting with Media Matters. Please, give it a rest already. Mainstream America is NOT happy with Obama period. Not that any real reporter from any mainstream TV/radio/newspaper ever talks to Joe on the street in Fargo or Omaha. All we ever hear is jaywalkers from New York City or LA – please! Talk to all the people who lost their livelihood due to the recent flooding – ask them what they REALLY think of this President’s handling of their disaster. I think the American people are so much smarter than anything reported in the press about how Obama is going to get reelected. Snort–not in my corner of this country.
If the sickle fits…
Of course, because their number one job is to fool you fools into thinking they are actually in competition with each other. Keep buying it. Keep banging your heads against the wall.
Okay, I was trying to be kind and give the benefit of the doubt…
“Slam them in their posteriors, since that’s where what little brains they have seem to be kept.”
So, you’re telling me that none of those guys had female sexual partners? That the “women’s lib movement” that made it a virtue for women to become mattressbacked sluts (just to be equal with males like Weiner, etc), the movement that turned murder into a sacred method of birth control (so females could behave like mattressbacked sluts…) has no focus at all below the waist? I think you’ve been smoking too much fairy dust.
I stand by my assertion.
And, FYI, I am not the Republican party. I do not speak for the Republican party. I recognize and acknowledge that the Republican party has been infested with and tolerated far too many progressives, such as Bush, McCain, and others.
Why would Senators and the President be talking about getting bills through the House. Do you mean Senate?
Somebody has got to say it:
Rep. Joe Walsh to Obama: “Quit Lying”
Tramper : Usually a conspiracy is some what secret. Everyone is watching it unfold, and can’t believe their own eyes and ears.
The one thing that I will agree with Kent on is that polling this early really is nothing to get to excited about (which I am guilty of I’ll admit). It will be interesting to see what direction things will go as time goes on though.
They did here in Missouri during and after the Civil War.
Bushwackers unite!
Jake Tapper: Hey, Isn’t Default Much, Much Worse Than a Short-Term Bridge Deal Which Requires Another Vote on the Debt Limit in 2012?
I just asked this myself, given that Obama seems to be saying that he’s willing to put politics above the nation’s debt rating.
Remember, Obama didn’t walk out and vow to default the country into ruin over the substance of what a deal might look like.
He walked out over Cantor’s suggestion that they do a short-term deal to give them time to continue negotiating.
That is what Obama threatened to destroy the credit rating of America over — over having to continue debating this to find some kind of compromise.
The Tyrant King wants this issue behind him, so he can get back to fundraisin’ and campaignin’.
Ace
Tapper / Carney exchange:
http://minx.cc/?post=318805
snort–you oughtta know all about that Claire.
We could treat Claire like a Conservative women and claim she is not taking her post-menopause meds.
On the other hand we could just say she is a jerk who is tied to a losing position and is in full panic.
Because the Senate is already solid Democrat aided and abetted by the various “gangs of McCain etal”. It’s the House that is blocking a deal and McConnell is the only Republican in the negotiations clearly siding with Obama (kabuki rhetoric notwithstanding).
Exactly. The Senate is a lost cause for the most part (a few exceptions, but very few. This is why I hope the House GOP just goes it alone, passes their deficit reduction bill and tell the Dem’s that the ball is now in their hands, they can either pass the House bill, create their own or explain to the American people why they will not do their jobs.
Unfortunately, that is what I thought you were alluding to.
Ann Coulters column seems to think Mitchs idea is a great Obama trap. I question why a second trap is needed.
The people don’t want taxes raised. They overwhelmingly elected a House to not raise taxes (and repeal Obamacare). So the House should not vote to raise taxes.
The voters did not do that in the Senate so the Senate wants to raise taxes and so does Obama.
So what does that mean when the 3 don’t agree? We have to go with Obama? Mitch? Weepy?
I think the peoples House should have the most weight and we should defer to the people. That means Obama and the Senate should do what Weepy wants.
Call their bluff. After all, it is a bluff right?
Prescient observation. I’m still waiting for people like Palin and Perry to stop teasing/agonizing so we can have a firm field to consider.
The Republican primary polls would look somewhat different, one supposes, if those two jumped in for real.
In CA, we have the opposite. The people elect Democrats who want to raise taxes, they just don’t have enough super majority to do so. So every year, the Dems stick to their guns of raising taxes and the Republican minority stick to theirs of not raising taxes.
Guess what, they can’t pass a budget. The minority stops them and they come to some uneasy compromise at the 11th hour.
So now the slick politicians introduced a way to allow Dems to pass a budget with a simple majority and the people voted it in.
To me, all it means is that Obama is grasping at straws. Boehner already told Obama that continuing these futile “negotiations” at Camp David over the weekend is useless and is not interested. He certainly is not going to now invite “the Jew” Cantor. Obama needs a Republican intermediary in the leadership. McConnell is that guy. Says more about McConnell that Obama considers him a ally than anything else.
The only way the Republicans can lose now is if the cave. This should end like it did in Minnesota today with the Dem guv surrendering entirely to the Republicans. There IS no Democratic budget alternative other than a blank check to Obama.
Ah, I’m a few blocks on the other side of the state line. We’re jayhawkers over here
Odrama has maxxed the credit card out. Big deal. He’s learning the same lesson that every trophy wife has to learn. No more charging honey, you’re over limit.
Good one. Hopefully we will change that and take away his credit card in Nov 2012.
Remember in November!
We should and most Americans would agree, but to Obama we just don’t understand the issues at hand so we should defer to him and his infinite wisdom.
Yes, but if Obama gets his way and get the debt ceiling increase he will continue to Marx out the credit card….
Well, well, well, Guess who supports the McConnel Plan B
pillI mean plan:Boehner also indicated that he could agree to it.
It’s this fixation on getting a deal even if it is a bad deal. This will end up in a confrontation between the House conservatives vs GOP leadership aligned with the Dems. So be it. Shut down the government.
2 years ago Obama was a lesser Senator than Cantor but today he preaches to Cantor like a parent to a child.
He has no respect for others that also “won”. They are just children that need to be seen and not heard.
Obama probably considers himself a skilled negotiator but the things I have seen show him to be a rank amateur. Alynsky is all he knows.
The entire Fox panel today is united in criticizing the Tea Party conservatives based on the same fixation for a deal.
What we are witnessing is just how entrenched the one-party system truly is. Even those who purport to be “conservatives” in the end can’t confront big government liberalism. The establishment we are fighting is handling it like government is all just one big debate club.
Conservatives can prevail here. This is major opportunity for us. But we have to make it crystal clear that we will take our votes elsewhere if AGAIN they make US the enemy as they deliver yet another victory to the Dems.
Normally I am not for a third party solution, but this is the final straw for me and I am sure it is for many more Conservatives. The sad thing is I think that this is Obama’s strategy and the establismnet GOP types are too dumb to see it.
You could make a deal with Democrats, if any existed. These are Marxists. No deal.
I have seen this theory played out many times. The proverbial, you don’t know what its like to govern. You can’t just have your way all the time. You have to compromise, make concessions, work to accomplish something instead of just blocking everything.
I can see that point to some extent. The problem I am having is that I don’t see Dems doing that. They are not compromising. They call the opposition racist and villify and try to discredit them. It’s very inflammatory and not conducive to good governance from Americans united in making us the greatest country in the World. The Dem leaders are real scum in that regard.
So I see no reason for compromise. Its time for a showdown. The activist left has overreached and made ordinary Americans incensed at their rhetoric and violence. We are now fighting back and I concur that the fight should be escalated. Hopefully non-violently. This debt fight is where its at. The time is now. We need the Tea Party to be a little more vocal than they are right now though to counteract the very aggressive MSM.
Actually, you are in full agreement with Rush, He refers to Boehner are Obama’s lifeline. If Boehner caves the conservatives will revolt, split the GOP and Obama will be re-elected. And yes, the GOP is THAT STUPID.
You both nailed it!
To the Dems, compromise is doing only what the Dems want.
Any comments on the “Cut, Cap & Balance” proposal ?
*That would be my plan A; They will never ever learn otherwise, GOP and Democrats alike; Some economists have said it is already too late, so what could possibly be worse than not borrowing any more money and then prioritizing where the money goes; Family households do it all day, every day, and the successful ones modify their behavior long term; That’s what those in DC need now more than ever!
This is really getting depressing.
On the eve of yet another epic battle between Evil and Stupid, I’m starting to think about things far more important than an economic debate.
Look at all that we have lost, or that is in dire jeopardy as a result of this government’s irresponsibility.
We have no security. The country is held in the grip of politically correct insanity where 6 year-old children are stripped and groped to avoid offending the sensibilities of a 12th century death-cult. The communist Chinese take our military and economic secrets at will to turn against us at their leisure, while our “protectors” downplay and obfuscate to avoid embarrassment. Meanwhile Iran moves ever closer to obtaining a weapon that will likely cost the lives of tens or hundreds of thousands of us.
We are rapidly losing our stability as a society. We have abandoned morality in the name of entertainment and personal and legal expedience, and replaced them with an incalculably large, and ever growing code of laws designed to make a criminal of anyone at the pleasure of the government (thrown away a newspaper in New York, lately?). Even problems not long ago considered 3rd-world are coming to beset us: tuberculosis, bed bugs, metal theft to the point of infrastructure damage.
Possibly worst of all, we appear to have lost our posterity: What can a child today possibly have to look forward to? America looks more and more like it has no future. How can anyone know how to plan for anything under these kinds of circumstances? In trying to provide everything, our leaders have abandoned the true purposes of governance, and very soon, I fear, we will be left with nothing.
For those of us who understand what is happening right now. It looks very much like all we have left is our American idealism, and our prayer.
No compromise.
It won’t have enough traction to be adopted until more congressmen and senators sign on to it. None of the leadership takes it seriously and considering how the end game appears to be some version of McConnell’s punt option, we are one big take-down fight away from even hoping to get that enacted.
We need to make sure that no compromise passes. And the more I think of it, I am less and less supportive of the month-by-month bills (that have no chance of passing anyway) to drag this on and on and peg the blame on Obama and the Dems. I just don’t trust the GOP to do the right thing in the end. In 2013, we’ll be back fighting them again like we were in 2006-2008 over the Bush/Kennedy “biggest government expansion” since LBJ and blanket amnesty.
We need to rid the GOP of the Rovian progressives but he seems to won Fox News and the “conservative” media these days. Someone please ask him where he got all of that dirty money he uses to “prove” that certain candidates (the liberal he likes) are “electable” while other candidates (the conservatives he despises, especially the Tea Party candidates) are “unelectable”. It’s from the same sources that put Bush and Obama in power. You know, the Enron crowd.
oops again:
We need to rid the GOP of the Rovian progressives but he seems to
wonOWN Fox News…Here’s a suggestion for the conservative punditry. Start investigating that Rove money and maybe eventually the Fox News crowd (Hannity? nah never) may someday ask Rove:
“You know Karl, I am more and more discussions in the conservative blogosphere questioning your relationship with that money you are fronting. What about it Karl? Who is giving you money? What do they want? Aren’t these the same people who put W and Obama in power? Why are you fighting the grassroots money?”
I don’t see any end to this. The elite will tax until they have everything.
A real sweet set up.
“Oh by the way we spent all your freakin money, give us some more.”
I heard Michele Bachmann on Hannity radio today, she is saying McConnell is leaning towards the C,C & B.
The only logical course of action at this point is to make Monopoly Money the legal tender of the United States of America.
It would probably trade above the value of the US Dollar on its first trading day on the ForEx markets.
And we have lots of it. Practically every home in America has one or more sets of this proven currency.
Then Sen. McConnell could sponsor a bill allowing President Obama to xerox as much Monopoly Money as he wants without Congressional approval.
However, Obama would have to have approval from Milton Bradley before passing go and collecting $200…
No I wouldn’t. But only because I know you aren’t going to try and break into my home and steal my food!
Sorry I missed the evening posts…I’ve been at the bandstand for a good old Sousa March concert! America at its best.
Soon Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps & Medicaid will be only be a memory. Congratulations to the Republicans for returning us to the way America was designed by our founding fathers.
Parasites die quickly ?
A leech only screams loudest on removal ?
It almost sounds like he thinks that would be a bad thing.
We have tried 90 years of too much government. I’d like to try less government for the next 90 years or so and see how that works…
Will the GOP get the message?
Nope.
Marxists took it over.
So, when is the next 2 million DC march by the Tea Party?
On July 14th, 2011 at 4:55 pm, tramper said:
Forgot to mention, all the money our PM is donating to foreign aid and the IMF and the waging the war in Libya has to be borrowed to pay for it all.
We are almost bankrupt, if not actually bankrupt, yet they borrow to give to other countries. It’s why I know they’re not stupid, because even the most stupid of people know not to borrow to give to someone else.
Not one to be a conspiracy theorist but it seems to me that there’s a conspiracy in plain sight to deliberately bring every western country to its knees.
Oh very, very sorry the post is there, how I missed it I don’t know as I looked three times.
Once again apologies.
Deroy Murdock’s column in JWR is well worth reading:
For some reason the link to the Murdock column got destroyed:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0711/murdock.php3
Nice strawman there, kwrxxx. Sure, there are a few loose cannons here from the far right or extreme libertarianism who don’t actually represent conservative thinking and won’t get the deceitful propaganda talking point you’re using, but the Tea Party has no interest in doing away with Social Security and Medicare.
We just want to fix them so they don’t bankrupt themselves and the nation.
You guys on the left don’t care that they are bankrupting the country. To you, that’s a feature, not a bug.
Here in California is where I think the civil war will begin. The State will cut off welfare, medicare, Section 8 housing and unemployment payments and the entitled will riot. When they try to destroy the property of decent people, force will be met with force. The thugs will travel to the better neighborhoods to rob and rape and destroy property. The people there will defend themselves. Then, those of us who have military training and have organized will go hunting the thugs. In my neighborhood of my small town we’ve already been discussing our defense plans. We won’t be waiting for the government to save our lives, we’ll do it ourselves.
Good point. Never depend on government to save you. Government may not likely show up for days or weeks, if ever, depending on the enormity of civil unrest. And in the case of our current goverment, it may even attempt to disarm YOU when they do show up.
Yea, what hawkeye said. I’ve been through several fires in SoCal and it wasn’t the ‘Gov’t’ that got things done, it was the people. Firemen are gov’t employees, but they are the exception. God Bless all the first responders and to heck with the do-nothing ‘public servants’.
As for this crock, I wonder who the “Demo sources are”. How much longer can these idiots carry water for Barry? Some of them must be cracking by now.