Obama threatens veto of House GOP’s “Cut, Cap, and Balance” bill
News is breaking out all over Capitol Hill just now: The president is threatening to veto House GOP conservatives’ proposal to cut spending now, cap future spending, and balance the budget.
So, to be clear, to use that over-worn Obama phrase, the White House is against Cut, Cap and Balance.
Spread the word.
Call their bluff.
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WashTimes’ Emily Miller: “Obama just issued a veto threat for a bill that would give him a $2.4 trillion debt ceiling increase. So, who’s risking default now?”
Via Jamie Dupree: Read the White House veto threat. The fear-mongering intro:
The Administration strongly opposes H.R. 2560, the “Cut, Cap and Balance Act of 2011.” Neither setting arbitrary spending levels nor amending the Constitution is necessary to restore fiscal responsibility. Increasing the Federal debt limit, which is needed to avoid a Federal government default on its obligations and a severe blow to the economy, should not be conditioned on taking these actions. Instead of pursuing an empty political statement and unrealistic policy goals, it is necessary to move beyond politics as usual and find bipartisan common ground.
The bill would undercut the Federal Government’s ability to meet its core commitments to seniors, middle-class families and the most vulnerable, while reducing our ability to invest in our future. H. R. 2560 would set unrealistic spending caps that could result in significant cuts to education, research and development, and other programs critical to growing our economy and winning the future. It could also lead to severe cuts in Medicare and Social Security, which are growing to accommodate the retirement of the baby boomers, and put at risk the retirement security for tens of millions of Americans.
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Related: The latest on the headache-inducing McConnell sellout from RedState:
Only in Washington are spending increases called spending cuts. They will actually grow discretionary spending at 2/3 rate of inflation (spending increase) but call it $1 trillion in cuts below the baseline of full inflation. About $200 billion come from cuts to health care providers, something we stop every year with the doc fix — not sure how they’ll keep this promise. And another $165 billion come from increases in government fees (some call tax increases), not spending cuts. So at the end of the day, we are left with a $2 billion FY2012 cut, and $55 billion in promised actual spending cuts through yet unspecified policy changes. A whopping $57 billion in cuts over a decade, or less than $6 billion a year.
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Allah Akbar, huh? No wonder I get strange looks from muslims on the street when I greet them with Aloha Snackbar…
Guess I’d better bone up on my muslim lingo. Wait… that was mexican. I wonder if Rosetta Stone has a language DVD for muslim.
Your favorite infidel,
Peas
Allah Akbar, huh? No wonder I get strange looks from muslims on the street when I greet them with Aloha Snackbar…
Guess I’d better bone up on my muslim lingo. Wait… that was mexican. I wonder if Rosetta Stone has a language DVD for muslim.
Your favorite infidel,
Peas
Allah Akbar, huh? No wonder I get strange looks from muslims on the street when I greet them with Aloha Snackbar…
Guess I’d better bone up on my muslim lingo. Wait… that was mexican. I wonder if Rosetta Stone has a language DVD for muslim.
Your favorite infidel,
Peas
LOVE IT!!!!
A friend of mine has all kinds of anti-Obama messages all over his car. He says he gets a lot of smiles and thumbs ups from other drivers, but a few have actually tried to run him off the road.
Bacon Akbar!
A few years ago, Rush tried to teach me about the tricks of BASELINE BUDGETING. Now I believe none of the numbers coming out of Washington, regardless of the speaker. Cut, Cap, & Balance fits nicely on a bumper sticker, let’s hope it works in reality.
( Be a shame if that caught on wouldn’t it? )
Ouch! Oh! Ewww? Close one. Tell Joe Biden to control that temper of his. Another reason the timing of this sucks. With Obie’s continued slide in the polls and a 2nd term looking kind of bleak, it’s ridiculous for us to give an inch.
His mandate turned out to be just a date.
I suspect that those drivers who wanted to run you off the road had anti-Bush slogans all over their vehicle a few years ago. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it doesn’t seem to be so funny.
#107. On July 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm, Marshall_Will said:
Correction: And a blind date at that.
If you do a triple post and follow it up with a double post, do you get more points?
How do we score it? Basketball terms or figure skating?
Triple loop into a double salchow or points, rebounds, and assists?
Or just a man date.
Ya just can’t beat a Triple Lindy.
Or.., yes, yes that works too!
Good point ChapBix, on my flighty sister’s FB page she had a comment from a friend to the effect “I keyed a bunch of cars that had Bush bumper stickers on them”.
Guy looked to be middle age! And by the by, this in 2010. Grow TF up. But I love these reports of escalation at street level. Bring. It. On.
The veto threat is against a House Bill. Don’t pillory Senate Republicans until the ball is in their court. A minority court at that. Until there are 60 votes, all McConnell and other Senators can do is temporize and let the House take the action, aimed to Nobama.
All money bills have to arise in the House. The Art of the matter, and heart of the matter, will be in the Senate later. See what Reid did to the Ryan Budget… held in limbo. Until Dems in Senate understand their reelection depends on cooperation, nothing can happen. Threaten the DEM incumbents. Folks… “WE” only hold the House and this bill _IS_ a Tea Party result. Support it and let criticisms of House leaders quiet down a while… unless they too weasel out. Ryan Budget and this cap bill are just what we need. Nobama clearly has no shame, but he fears the bill. It isn’t going to pass after the House passes it. And the Constitutional Amendment part has no chance. Do the math … we don’t have 2/3s of the House and not even 50% of the Senate… and the President has no role in it at all. 2 houses by 2/3s, EACH, and then to the States for 3/4ths of them. Pie in the sky. And more than silly for Nobama to threaten to veto what he cannot. Amendment process bypasses the President. Would folks like a balanced budget amendment, sure… but the politics of it are beyond sticky. Only a few Senators really understand how to play the Senate legislative game.
#60. On July 18th, 2011 at 2:52 pm, Hangfire said:
It is the oxymoron called legalized theft.
But Obama is leading the effort to solve the deficit issue. He wants something bold, something that is not a band-aid but will solve the problem. He wants a balanced approach where all ideas are welcome including taxes. Including taxes, taxes, taxes, taxes on the wealthy, on the wealthy, class warfare, taxes.
Actually, he thinks that Republicans have boxed themselves in with their no new taxes pledge. He thinks that was a bad political move and he has trained his guns on it, being the politician that he is.
It looks like his end game is to use the media to bash Republicans for not putting taxes on the table which means THEY are not serious about the deficit and a real plan to fix it. He can use the tried and true class warfare argument to paint them as oppressors of the poor and proponents of the rich so he can get votes. When the talks fail, he can say Republicans were unreasonable because they would not do what was needed. If the ceiling is raised and they raised taxes, IN ANY FORM, then he will use that like they did to HW Bush when he said read my lips and then caved.
I am worried because the only way Obama loses is if they call his bluff and even then they have to do it perfectly or he will still be able to blame them.
Thats a pretty astute politician who can take this issue and turn it into a win for him on most every count except one. He is betting on the pony that may not be a longshot but a good probability of coming true. It is highly likely Republicans will cave in some manner that he can use.
On the other hand, they did box themselves in. Hopefully they will realize that even if it was a mistake, they must stick with it to be winners.
Win or lose, call bluff or cave. Maybe the Republicans blundered into a good situation because they must call bluff and they must call bluff.
In the world of Marxists and Regressives, doing the wrong (but really “right”) and hard thing is raising taxes.
To John Boehner, Speaker of the House of Representatives,
Pass the cut, cap and balance bill and send it to Dingy Harry. Inform dingy Harry that when he shelves the bill, another bill nearly identical will be sent to the Senate with a reduction of 5% of the increase of the debt limit. If he shelves that bill, inform him another bill will be headed his head with a further reduction of 10% in the increase of the deb limit. At all stages, inform the public of your actions.
Concerned Citizen
If he shelves that bill, inform him another bill will be headed his
headway with a further reduction of 10% in the increase of the deb limit.My mistake.
It seems rather lame to need an amendment to the Constitution to get DC to cut spending, pay down the debt and not spend more than it gets in taxes. It is common sense. If they can’t get that, they don’t belong in public service. Representation doesn’t come from electing the dumbest people on the planet. The DC elites pride themselves with the belief that they are soooo much smarter than the unwashed masses they serve. Well, they sure don’t act very smart. They are wasting our time with the dog and pony show that isn’t cutting it anymore. I’ll bet they are playing children’s games behind the closed doors, why else would it take so long to do simple things like write a budget.
If the topic is Odummy, for those who missed Levin today, on his sign off portion he believes Barry is going to try dempocrapic, illegal, unconstitutional approach of the misunderstanding 14th amendment try and increase the debt himself.
If that happens it will be a replay of slick willy being impeached by the house, never being charged in the senate.
America is becoming a nation of elitists and forget the laws.
God Bless America, PLEASE.
yep
Why is Obowmao making a big deal about a law he’s going to ignore anyway?
Something is interesting here with his veto threat.
Did the GOP slip in a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget in there?
nope… either my computer refuses to connect quickly with the site or there is an extremely high amount of traffic at the server I am connected to.
You don’t actually believe I would post the same comment three times purposely, do you? Oh I get it…. it’s your sense of humor….
Why is Obowmao making a big deal about a law he’s going to ignore anyway?
Something is interesting here with his veto threat.
Did the GOP slip in a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget in there?