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1. #201
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:35 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

   One more observation, those rationalizing that the GOP did the right thing are fighting over the importance of “optics”. Whatever happened to fighting for our principles? If we fight for the right thing, the optics will take care of themselves. Now the GOP looks like inept hypocrites being played by more effective hypocrites.

   It’s going to cost the establishment a lot more than a billion dollars next year to sell the cancer they are selling no matter what the “optics”.

2. #202
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:36 pm, rambler said:

   Phil, I noticed that and found it interesting. Wondering what their beliefs really are.

3. #203
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:48 pm, rocketman said:

   ***
   Excellent Post by SEND_ME–#164. Good straightforward numbers, and the clear choice the U.S.A. has to make to stay solvent. I wish this could be tattooed on our “representatives” arms for their future reference. No Teleprompters need apply! The Sarah’Cuda should hammer this one home on her next video from her garage in the Far North.
   ***
   Instead of a plan to take on the real problem–we just get more Kabuki theater from the Senate, House, and Comrade Obama. No real cuts–just a miniscule decrease in the rate of debt expansion. And a “pizza’s ready” call as Dingy Harry Reid lies to us again from the podium! These corrupt clowns just want to keep their gravy train rolling while Comrade Obama and his Ilk spend hearty on taxpayer’s backs!
   ***
   Stand strong, Tea Party– I can see the Nov. 2012 TSUNAMI II cranking up from my driveway!
   ***
   And speaking of cranking up–I think Sarah Palin needs a better campaign vehicle for her run. The Rolling Thunder Harley was nice–but not too comfortable. Here’s my humble suggestion for a real eye catcher. I don’t think it is going to meet Comrade Obama’s new 50 MPG standards. But it will definitely blow away The Messiah and His Chevvy Volt campaign. And it cost half of what the Volt does. Should look great parked in the driveway at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
   ***
   http://www.photobucket.com/viejo1
   ***

   John Bibb
   ***

4. #204
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

   Rejoice!

   K-Lo at NRO Corner:
   43 senators sign a letter opposing the Reid bill, telling the Senate Leader:

   The only possible justification for a $2.4 trillion increase in borrowing authority is to allow the President to avoid any accountability for these issues before his 2012 election

   Rejoice

5. #205
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:54 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Pasadena Phil said:

   naive Tea Party conservatives

   The correct John McCain/WSJ term would be Tea Party Hobbits.
   THIS Tea Party Hobbit accept the slur with honor thanks very much. It must be the self hating minority in me

   Yes I know there are times to accept “reality” and accept compromise and even defeat. But in “reality” the only compromise offered IS defeat and there has been way too much of that. This is indeed the time to draw a line in the sand and let the other SOB challenge it. Enough is enough.

   ==
   The Right to Keep and Bear Arms–>Constitutional Carry
   It is a RIGHT-not a license from “our betters”.

6. #206
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:55 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

   “Not so funny when you realize that they’re doing precisely what the Democrats want them to do”

   Yes lots of eating our own going on. Some proudly doing so too.

7. #207
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

   >>I think Sarah Palin needs a better campaign vehicle

   Agreed. Rocketman’s alternative is a little less “outlaw” and a little more “conservative nostalgia.” I approve.

8. #208
   On July 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

   The bad guys are Obama and the left, not Boehner and Cantor.

9. #209
   On July 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

   On July 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

   JS…You stopped posting here for quite a while. I thought maybe you got tired of us or something. Anyway, I had forgotten how upbeat you always have been and enjoy your positive attitude! We need that!

10. #210
    On July 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm, happyscrapper said:

    As far as I can tell, we are down to Michelle and Erick Erickson at RedState (but not RedState as a blog). Talk radio? Mark Levin. We have been reduced to that. Fortunately, that may be enough. Everyone else seems to be directly or indirectly attacking the Tea Party.

    What is Rush Limbaugh, chopped liver? On Friday, he was praising the Tea Party congresspeople and urging them to hang tough. Doesn’t sound like an attack to me! And, he has about 25+ MILLION listeners every day!

11. #211
    On July 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
    The bad guys are Obama and the left, not Boehner and Cantor.

    Too bad some people need to continually be reminded of this! Boehner and Cantor, et al may not be stubborn, very right wing conservative, but they ARE conservative. There is nothing wrong with our Tea Party congresspeople being stubborn. They are there, after all, to SAVE OUR REPUBLIC! But people in leadership like Boehner and Cantor HAVE to deal with the a-holes on the other side and they HAVE to be more political in order to get anything! Think about it. The conservatives are a small portion of one branch. Odds are they won’t have as much to say this time around. After 2012, they will have a LOT of help!!!

12. #212
    On July 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    See how much good continues to come from this. Obama just said this:

    “It must have the support of both parties that were sent here to represent the American people – not just one faction of one party,”

    Yet one more time we see that Obama is not the President of the entire country but of a political party. When the country wants what his party does not, well then he says stupid stuff like that.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2011/07/30/gIQAqdfdjI_print.html

    Thanks happy… Rush was on fire Friday. Given his listenership LOTS of people heard positive things about the tea party and the folks who voted “no” on Friday.

13. #213
    On July 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “After 2012, they will have a LOT of help!!!”

    Despite what the media is trying to tell us. What we started in 2010 will continue. We will not be able to change everyone’s mind. We only need to have a majority to keep the left out of power. Very doable in 2012.

14. #214
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:05 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    This moment put opinion professionals on the right into a very tough spot. Which of them can afford to kiss off half of his or her audience?

    Sadly, the bitterness of family squabbles can be worse than that against outsiders. This is not insanity but some kind of a natural law: It is necessary sometimes to purify a movement and drive out the “weak sisters” (and RINOs). But there is no pure and righteous place to stand that is also a smart place. These are judgment calls and purists may have their moments but, in the longer run, those who eschew “nuance” and strategic retreat and compromise will eventually fail. It is really sad to be at odds among ourselves when the differences are strictly about means and methods and not at all about ends.

    (There are scumbags like Lindsey Graham and others who have no strong conservative orientation at all; they merely seek to ride on the backs of conservatives. But most of us are just arguing about when to be unbending versus when to “bend but not break.”)

    I think Laura Ingraham got it exactly right, although most here will no doubt disagree. Laura was clear and forthright in her view that Boehner should be supported (which was my view).
    Then she instantly tried to recover her TP cred by saying pretty much what I am saying here: Let’s not tear each other apart when we know we are brothers and sisters at war with Obama and the Dems.

    Rush, Sean, and MM stayed close to the TP hardline. Laura and Coulter stood with Boehner (bravely, IMO, as they were clearly not with the majority of their public). Who among these people do we now want to cast out as enemies?

    And how depressed do we need to be? The budget matters a lot but what matter even more is 2012, IMO. Having been so fiscally reckless for so long, surely we can survive for another year. The real key to turning this situation around is not any spending limitations that we can impose right now from our position of some power in the House. The real key is to turn out Obama and turn over the Senate so that we really do have the power to change things.

    I am extremely encouraged that the realization seems to be bubbling to the surface that the key issue of the moment is denying Obama his insistence on a debt extension that takes the issue off the table through the election. The Senate (see my post above) is taking a strong, “Hell no, Obama” stand on that issue. This could be the key to kicking this bum out of the White House, and I am very encouraged by it.

    I know a lot of people believe fervently in the BBA. Me, not so much. The devil is in the details and even if we were successful in getting a BBA amendment, we would find ourselves endlessly in court arguing about numbers. “Gross Domestic Product” sounds like a clean concept, but it is not. It is subject to endless distortion and debate and activists judges take the side of the left more often than they take our side.

    Let’s kick Obama and Reid and Pelosi out of Washington. Then we can decide who among ourselves deserves to have a dagger stuck in him.

15. #215
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:05 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:
    Rush, Sean, and MM stayed close to the TP hardline. Laura and Coulter stood with Boehner (bravely, IMO, as they were clearly not with the majority of their public). Who among these people do we now want to cast out as enemies?

    Good point! And I think most on here would agree, although we have differences in how we go about getting our Republic back, we all want the same thing. Even Phil, although a purist and stuck on one theme, is a brother and I respect him (sometimes more than others ) We need to get along. The regressives WANT us to squabble and do everything they can to foment that. Don’t let them succeed.

    We can continue to disagree, debate, get pissed off. But in the end, we are on the same side and must unite against the enemy (yes, that’s you, Obama. You called ME an enemy…well, back at ya!)

16. #216
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 1:54 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    The correct John McCain/WSJ term would be Tea Party Hobbits.

    I’ve got to work that into my lexicon. Better “optics”. It’s all about optics these days. Only hobbits fight for principles.

17. #217
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:17 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm, happyscrapper said:

    What is Rush Limbaugh, chopped liver?

    He was FOR the Boehner version of the Reid bill before he was against it. He came around but he is on probation. Michelle, Erickson and Levin never wavered. It’s about principles, not optics or gamesmanship or whatever it takes to “win” over a terrible deal. NO deal would have been better than this deal or whatever deal they settle on.

    We may very likely be looking back at this week in a year or two as the week America lost its liberty.

18. #218
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:18 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Wasn’t it once said that even if the Dirty Democrats lost in November they would not take any loss like adults but, would burn the country down any way they could? Isn’t that what we are seeing now? Did you notice Fearless leader signing into law Fuel Standards that he himself did on his own and no input or discussion anywhere else? Notice it took polace while everyone was entranced by the debt talks!

19. #219
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:22 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    (In my reference above to Laura Ingraham, I should have said that she emphasized that the vital issues now on the table would never have been there without the Tea Party, even as she distanced herself somewhat from the hardline TP position.)

20. #220
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:27 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I can only imagine the anger and disgust they have,” said Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, “at witnessing a broken government and a president and members of Congress who can’t seem to even agree sometimes on what day it is, let alone to solve the nation’s debt crisis.”

    Sorry Senator but government is not broken. Our governmental system is doing exactly what it is designed to do. Stop itself dead in its tracks when its gotten out of whack and out of balance. We are seeing yet one more time how much wisdom our founders possessed.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BROKEN_WASHINGTON_ANALYSIS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-30-14-19-19

21. #221
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:28 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “He was FOR the Boehner version of the Reid bill before he was against it.”

    Sorry but Rush was most certainly not. Even after Boehner was on the radio program Rush did not let up on the problems with the, at the time mind you, plans.

22. #222
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072911/content/01125108.guest.html

23. #223
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm, Mister P said:

    The bad guys are Obama and the left, not Boehner and Cantor.

    I have been slow to criticize Boehner. But the problem I see it is not that he is a bad guy or not conservative, but that he: Buys into the language of Obama (such as Default), Negotiates with himself (by having 2 bills), Negotiates with Obama rather than follow constitutional procedure (which Obama turned into attacks on the GOP), worries about the GOP being blamed (of course they will be blamed, so let it go).

    I think Boehner failed to see we have his back if he just passes CCB and then lets the chips fall where they may.

24. #224
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    What happy said at #215 :<)

25. #225
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:31 pm, stillontheroad said:

    What everyone fails to see is – Fearless Leader has all but admitted the unemployment rate will stay at current levels if not grow for the next several years. Without that number of people working and paying taxes this Socialist Swine all but demands that the people that still do work must pay more to make up for the difference. This A%% Hat could not care less about jobs, people overburdened with taxes not any of it. All this Sock Puppet wants to do is punish those that even think of being successful let alone those that are trying to make a living the honest way. This POS and his ilk have added over 6 trillion dollars to this countries debt with no end in sight.

26. #226
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:33 pm, Mister P said:

    (In my reference above to Laura Ingraham, I should have said that she emphasized that the vital issues now on the table would never have been there without the Tea Party, even as she distanced herself somewhat from the hardline TP position.)

    She did, but then she also said that the Tea Party candidates were not fit to govern. Problem as I see it is that she bought into the fear and blame game. She became part of the Kabuki theater unlike MM.

27. #227
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Problem as I see it is that she bought into the fear and blame game.

    I hate to break this to you, but the lady is tougher than nails.

28. #228
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm, stuckinIL4now said:

    So I guess all those times Sens. ObamaNOcchio and Reidiculous voted against raising the debt limit they were just debt-limit hobbit understudies?

    Suggestion to Senate Majority Leader Reidiculous … instead of filibustering why don’t you and rest of the dimbeciles in the Senate just FLEABAG it, like to Venezuela or Libya … and take ObamaUseless with you … and NEVER come back …

29. #229
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm, happyscrapper said:

    we all want the same thing. Even Phil, although a purist and stuck on one theme,

    Calling a conservative a “purist” is a favorite attacking point by the Assistant Democrats, the very people you supposedly hate so much. It defines the basic difference between you and me. You will at end compromise your principles for the party.

    You can’t be partly pregnant or sometimes honest. You are not being “reasonable” when you refuse to stand on your principles, you are just surrendering. On the same token, my sticking to my principles and never compromising doesn’t make me a “purist”, it makes me an honest and principled conservative.

    If you would stop attacking me every time a RINO troll swarm focuses on me (after throwing a couple of sweet nothings at you, it always works, you’re so easy) with their lies about what I said, we wouldn’t be at odds so often. Read what I say, not what idiots say that I said. And drop the “purist” canard. It’s ignorant. All you are communicating to RINOs and libs is that your vote is automatic and nothing you say matters.

    Happyscrapper: “Karl, here’s my ballot for next year. I already checked off Republican but you can fill out the name later.”

    Rove: “Thank you!”

    Happyscrapper: “Now let me tell you what I think and who I’d like see win the nomination.”

    Rove: “THANK you!”

    Happyscrapper: No wait, I haven’t finished!”

    Rove: “I said TH-A-A-A-A-N-K YOU! Are you deaf? Oh wait! Do you have a signed blank check you could spare?”

    See the problem? Why would I want to have a discussion with someone like that? Someone who is always attacking me over things I never said and mischaracterizes my points? Someone who never accepts “I’m sorry” as final?

    Now could you drop the “purist” crap, pick a side and stick to it?

30. #230
    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:54 pm, bbinfl said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Sorry but the poll numbers disagree with you. The election results from 2010 disagree with you.

    Some of you folks are so committed to the sky is falling and bash the GOP that you’ve lost your way.

    This is all good stuff that is happening. All good….

    Or did you think the left was just going to go away because of one election and there would be no discomfort and uneasiness?

    Funny how those complaining about the GOP finding a way to snatch defeat from a victory are the very people who are hell bent on framing everything in defeatist terms and prophesying doom. You know, snatching defeat from victory…..
    

    First of all polls aren’t elections.

    Second of all, all 2010 did was change one politician for another I no more trust the R that is in there than the D they replaced. You put way too much faith in a person that will sell you and your family out so they can get to, and stay, in DC by any means necessary. Are there some that have character and do what they say, yes, but that type of person is very few and far between.

    Third of all, I don’t care about the GOP I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of it. Why would I join a group of jellyfish who stand for nothing but their own re-election? They are only slightly less whores than the dimoturds are.

    Congress is like a diaper, they are both always filled with the same thing and always need changing. To ignore reality is just being an ostrich. Just because some pol promises you something doesn’t mean you’re going to get it. If you want to call being a realist being defeatist that is your right. But I’m sorry I just don’t live in whatever your reality is.

    And no, I didn’t expect the left to go away but I sure expect those that are supposed to be their opponents to treat them like the garbage they are. You crush bugs you don’t make nice with them. When the GOP and those on the right start treating the left like the left treats the right, instead of being worried about appearances and such, then I might have faith in them to do the right thing but I just don’t see it happening. I’ll give West credit for that much but he is about the only one I’ve seen so blatantly, and rightfully, do it.

    Lastly, here is the most important question….what are you and the people that believe like you going to do if the Reps do not take over the senate and the WH in 2012? Just because you people say it will be so doesn’t make it so (best laid plans of mice and men, etc). Or even if they do then what if they turn out like the ones in the early 2000′s that were spending like drunken sailors? What then? Tell everybody to stick it out to 2014? It’s always wait until next year, well tell me when does next year get here?

31. #231
    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:08 pm, Mister P said:

    I hate to break this to you, but the lady is tougher than nails.

    That’s what I thought also, till I heard her show Thursday and Friday. Then she started talking about how the economy was going to crash if the debt ceiling is not lifted and how the GOP was going to get all the blame. She was not sounding very tough to me (except when she started scolding the tea party).

32. #232
    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI STILL_ON_THE_ROAD–#225. Comrade Obama passed the over 50 MPG future “standard” without any real knowledge if it is even possible or not. Like liberal Kalifornia passed zero emission vehicle and fuel mileage standards over the last 20 years that could never be met. And when the car companies refuse to sell in Kali–they just kick the implementation date down the road.
    ***
    Ditto for The Messiah’s plans. When I see the existing Obama Clown (aka “smart”) cars on the road it makes me cringe. Uncomfortable–unwanted–and real death traps in accidents. They should just put a couple of rings on each side to make it easier for the funeral parlors to put in rods and use the smashed up “car” as a casket for the dead mashed up inside after an accident.
    ***
    I saw an estimate that heavier 1950′s / 1960′s cars without seat belts and airbags had about the same death and injury rates as our lighter modern vehicles do now. Another estimate claims that there will be thousands more deaths and more severe injuries in the very light modern cars than would occur in the current modern cars.
    ***
    Any other product that caused thousands more additional deaths would be taken off the market by the government. And the same Gubmint will be responsible for the higher death rates in the “fuel efficient” deathtraps that will be needed to meet the 50+ MPG standards.
    ***
    I’m not sure that even a Moped bicycle built for two persons with a single cylinder 5 HP. engine could get over 50 MPG. after the safety and anti-pollution standards are met–let alone a car with air conditioning that can pass crash test standards. And good luck riding it on a 500 mile Texas freeway trip at 45 MPH max!
    ***
    Comrade Obama and His “greenie” ilk try to fix another non problem with new stupid laws. They think that if they pass a law repealing the law of gravity that everything will start floating off the ground! Engineering realities be damned! And then They will raise fuel taxes to make up for the revenue lost due to higher MPG.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

33. #233
    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:15 pm, bbinfl said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:08 pm, Mister P said:

    That’s what I thought also, till I heard her show Thursday and Friday. Then she started talking about how the economy was going to crash if the debt ceiling is not lifted and how the GOP was going to get all the blame. She was not sounding very tough to me (except when she started scolding the tea party).
    

    Not to point the finger solely at her but I think now, when people have to either crap or get off the pot, is where you are going to find out who actually stand for the principles that roused the tea party types into action and those that merely used it to either get into elected office or used it to generate radio/tv rankings.

34. #234
    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:17 pm, Mister P said:

    I’m not sure that even a Moped bicycle built for two persons with a single cylinder 5 HP. engine could get over 50 MPG.

    Oddly enough I bought a Toyota Camry the first year it came out. I believe it was 1984. I actually got 55 mpg on it. I could get over 600 miles on a tank of gas. I believe it was the best car ever made. For some reason, cars after that got far lower gas mileage.

35. #235
    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:25 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I no more trust the R that is in there than the D they replaced.”

    I believe we are aware of that. Which is why your posts are quite agenda driven and biased from the get go.

36. #236
    On July 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm, rocketman said:

    Obama can raise the fuel standards to 100 MPG for all I care. It won’t happen. This doofus will be a big black inkspot in a history book soon. Any “standards” he sets will be overturned anyway. If he thinks I am going to ride in a tin can without air conditioning, radio, seats or room to put a passenger, while he toodles around in a luxury limo…he can go to hell.

    On July 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Phil…I am tired of you dumping on me and my principals, just because I don’t happen to fall in lock step with your rigid agenda. Your posts to people who express disagreement with you are insulting and rude. You admitted in your last post that you don’t compromise. I pray you aren’t married. EVERYONE who wants to deal with other human beings in a reasonable way must compromise at times. That doesn’t mean we don’t have principles. It just means that we are all different and need to get along.

    I am a very conservative, principled person and I deeply resent your post ridiculing me.

37. #237
    On July 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm, bbinfl said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 4:25 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I no more trust the R that is in there than the D they replaced.”

    I believe we are aware of that. Which is why your posts are quite agenda driven and biased from the get go.

    What agenda might that be? You don’t even know me yet you feel you can judge me? Who the hell do you think you are? I’ve at least given something back to this country, 6 years of my life. The only agenda I have is that I care about my country and the direction it is headed and what is being given to my nieces and nephews in the future. And on top of that I think both parties and the politicians that inhabit them suck, last I heard in this country I was allowed to have that opinion.

    The only thing keyboard commando party hacks like you care about are your party. Boo hoo so I don’t like nor trust your party to do the right thing nor do I think that 2012 is going to be the glorious takeover a lot of you think it is because there is no accounting for the stupidity of the common voter. But, that doesn’t give you the the right to judge me. You can disagree with me and my opinion, that’s fine, but you can shove your judgements and psychoanalysis bs. If you can’t debate your point without insulting someone then just don’t respond.

38. #238
    On July 30th, 2011 at 6:30 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm, bbinfl said:

    The only thing keyboard commando party hacks like you care about are your party.

    I’m glad to see you’re not being judgemental in return.

39. #239
    On July 30th, 2011 at 6:40 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Don’t let him upset you. The best way to deal with him is just keep track of his silly rants and then quote them back at him when he’s contradicting himself later. He’ll call you a liar and RINO and such, but that’s because of the fact that he knows he’s been caught out, and frequently it makes him just shut up and run away. Not that it will change him. He’s a mental case and you can either deal with him on that basis or just ignore him.

40. #240
    On July 30th, 2011 at 6:49 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 6:40 pm, txvet2 said:

    What is so sad about Phil is that he IS on the same side as we are. Yet, he has a way of alienating people who don’t agree 100% with him. Some of his posts are really really good. Then he breaks into a tirade against someone. I still think he has a form of schizophrenia. But I’m no psychiatrist…it’s just an opinion.

    Funny, in the same thread where I mentioned we need to try to get along at least with those on the same side… all these nasty posts. Sigh.

41. #241
    On July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Well, you can say this about some of the more vitriolic comments here (mine included)…

    At least the people making them clearly care. Not about elections, not about “bipartisan solutions”, but about the republic…

42. #242
    On July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm, bbinfl said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Well, you can say this about some of the more vitriolic comments here (mine included)…

    At least the people making them clearly care. Not about elections, not about “bipartisan solutions”, but about the republic…

    I agree with you but for some that is not good enough we must prostrate ourselves before the party first, even if we are not a member of it.

43. #243
    On July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm, bbinfl said:

    I agree with you but for some that is not good enough we must prostrate ourselves before the party first, even if we are not a member of it.

    No. You have to hold them accountable whether you’re a member or not – and that includes both parties. But you have to remember that the way to the final goal doesn’t lead through the Democrat Party. It goes through control of the Republican Party. There is no other way. We need to fight for our principles now, but you have to realize that we don’t have the strength yet to enforce our will (except negatively – conservatives can block legislation, but they can’t pass it – and sooner or later legislation has to pass). That means that they will compromise, which will make all of us mad at them. Getting mad is OK, if you channel it in the right direction – supporting conservative challengers to both Democrats and moderate Republicans. We can take full control of the House in the next election along with a majority of the Senate – but it will take at least two more elections to elect enough conservative senators to really be able to control the future course of the country. Plus, of course, a conservative in the White House to not only support conservative legislation and regulation (or more appropriately, deregulation) but also appoint conservative judges at all levels.

    That has to be our goal. Quitting now and running off to a splinter party because things didn’t go your way in the first big confrontation with the forces of evil isn’t going to get us there.

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    On July 31st, 2011 at 4:47 pm, Send_Me said:

    Why are “conservatives” so afraid to use the power they have, whether little or great? Why do “conservatives” consistently throw up their hands after making passionate, principle-based speeches and say, “Woe is us! We don’t have the numbers… We’d lose… We don’t have the influence… They might call us names… We don’t have… We can’t… We won’t… So, which evil would we rather have?” “Conservatives” need to realize the power that exists in perhaps the most beautiful word in the English language: no.