Greenspan: US Will Never Default Because We Can Just Print Money

By Doug Powers  •  August 8, 2011 03:10 PM

**Written by Doug Powers

Try the “I printed the money” approach in any high school accounting class to explain how you fixed ugly discrepancies on your balance sheet and you’ll fail the course. Do the same thing as a former Fed Chairman you’re an economic guru.

Real Clear Politics:

David Gregory, moderator of “Meet The Press” on NBC: “Are U.S. treasury bonds still safe to invest in?”

Alan Greenspan, Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve: “Very much so. This is not an issue of credit rating, the United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So, there is zero probability of default.”

It’s amazing America is solvent at all.

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Warren Buffet agrees.

“You mean the Warren Buffet who just got downgraded too?”

Yeah, that one.

**Written by Doug Powers

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  1. #101
    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:53 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Whirled Peas said:

    O/T O’Mulligan is going to TWO fundraisers tonight! Guess what? The funds WON’T be used to pay off the debt!

    It could be as much a matter of his retreating back to a friendly crowd and basking in the glow of sheer adoration than anything to do w/ money?

    Oh he’ll take the money don’t get me wrong! His ego is so fragile he can only exist for so long without heaps of praise from hometown friendly crowds.

    He’s hiding from his problems.

  2. #102
    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:53 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:43 pm, NiteOwl said:

    Duplicity keeps the simple-minded busy.

    So would putting them in a room full of shovels and telling them to take their pick.

    Heads apoppin’ doncha know! :lol:

  3. #103
    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm, ShoreDor said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 3:17 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    The guy married Andrea Mitchell, that alone is proof that he is a moron.

    Well, it’s said love is blind. In Greenspan’s case, deaf and dumb too.

    And quite possibly anosmic.

  4. #104
    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:53 pm, Marshall_Will said:
    He’s hiding from his problems.

    All weekend I pictured him at Camp David, in a corner, curled up in a fetal position, sucking his thumb and whimpering. Hep me, hep me, sumbuddy hep me!

  5. #105
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:03 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Hep me, hep me, sumbuddy hep me!

    I’m totally serious. Further, other than his first 8 or 10 weeks in office he has had NOTHING but an ever rising stock market as wind at his back!

    This is his first correction. One of his own making I might add. How’s making all those ‘invetments’ working out for ya’ Barky?

  6. #106
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:04 pm, DougT said:

    Freddy (#99) got it right. Greenspan was not going to get into the minutiae on MTP, however he is essentially correct.

    Bernanke, though, could do one thing besides printing money that would start our economic machine back up. He could raise the Federal Funds Rate. This would force banks to quit playing games (albeit profitable games) with treasuries and start earning their money by lending it again.

    Banks aren’t just for savings. They’re supposed to be the facilitators of the entrepreneurial side of America. Right now, they have zero incentive to make loans.

    Shake ‘em up, Ben, and we can increase the money supply the old fashioned way: by creating wealth.

  7. #107
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:08 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm, babiesgrandma said:
    Has anyone heard from the Grand Ol’ Partypoopers what their take is on all of this? How’s that reaching across the aisle working out for ya, ya turncoats?

    Somehow I picture Boehner sitting in a room crying, while McConnell is stuttering something like, “but, but, they told us if we passed it then no downgrade.” While dialing the phone number Obama gave him but each time it connects it connects to Dominoes Pizza.

  8. #108
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm, Truesoldier said:

    O/T O’Mulligan is going to TWO fundraisers tonight! Guess what? The funds WON’T be used to pay off the debt!

    Too bad it is one of those pre-paid events otherwise it would be funny if the donors turned around and told Obama that after their losses today and last week they don’t have anything to give him, but thanks for the free food and drink.

  9. #109
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:22 pm, Green eyed Lady said:

    Raging At The Dying Of Their Light

    …. the comparison between Keynesian economics and global warmism is on target. Both are liberal dogmas disguised, increasingly thinly, as science. Both are supported by circular logic, and thus lack falsifiability, a necessary characteristic of a scientific theory. If the weather gets warmer, that’s because of global warming; if it gets colder, that’s “climate change” and proves the theory too. Had unemployment stayed below 8%, as the Obama administration promised it would, that would have proved the “stimulus” worked; since it peaked at 10% and has held steady above 9%, that proves the stimulus wasn’t big enough. Heads I win, tails you lose.
    To Weisberg, the failures of the Obama administration prove not only that Republicans are “intellectual primitives” but that you are stupid: Among the “sobering lessons” that “we” have “learned,” he writes, is “that there’s no point trying to explain complicated matters to the American people.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/raging_at_the_dying_of_their_light.html

  10. #110
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:28 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Even after all that has happened in the past week Obama is still out there spending money we dont have:

    WASHINGTON — President Obama has approved $105 million for humanitarian efforts in the Horn of Africa to combat worsening drought and famine.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney says the money will help provide food, shelter, water, and sanitation and health services to those in need.

    It comes amid growing concern over the situation and increased U.S. focus. The United Nations has declared famine affects five regions in Somalia, and thousands are fleeing to seek refuge in Kenya and Ethiopia, which are also affected by the worst drought in East Africa in 60 years.

  11. #111
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:29 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    I believe I have a Monopoly game somewheres about. I guess I can use that money now that we’re making up the economy as we go along.

  12. #112
    On August 8th, 2011 at 6:46 pm, rightisright said:

    “print more money” so that’s all there is to fixing the problem, but but but isn’t that what Germany did in the 20′s. My history book says that didn’t work out so well for Zimbabwe also. This clown is partly responsible for the mess we find ourselves in now.

    Just goes to show ya, you don’t need to be an economist to fix the givernments money problems…talk about a wasted education.

  13. #113
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:04 pm, Hangfire said:

    Hey, Barry!

    What about the drought in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Eastern Colorado?

  14. #114
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:08 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Just goes to show ya, you don’t need to be an economist to fix the givernments money problems…talk about a wasted education.

    You don’t even need to be an Ivy League graduate to solve the government’s money problems. Its only a problem to those with common sense, and not to those out to get rich on the backs of the taxpayer.

  15. #115
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:12 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Even after all that has happened in the past week Obama is still out there spending money we dont have:

    WASHINGTON — President Obama has approved $105 million for humanitarian efforts in the Horn of Africa to combat worsening drought and famine.

    Yeah, and it’s probably only a fraction of what he’ll approve for spending overseas. It’s not like any parts of our own nation is suffering drought and could use federal financial aid to combat it, with money we don’t really have anyway.

  16. #116
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:13 pm, rotarymunkey said:

    Doug,
    Not to pick nits, but America IS NOT solvent currently. All it takes is for companies to stop buying the junk that the Treasury is selling and the whole house of cards comes down. Poof! Instant governmental evaporation. The problem isn’t that the Tea Party will march on Washington and disperse the cesspool current inhabiting our Nation’s highest offices, it’s that they’ll all be long gone by the time we rouse everyone for the march.

  17. #117
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:16 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:04 pm, Hangfire said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:12 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    It’s much much more distributive when you take it out of the country, don’t ‘cha know! ;)

  18. #118
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    DougT said:

    Shake ‘em up, Ben, and we can increase the money supply the old fashioned way: by creating wealth.

    Doug, you’re not seriously suggesting banks get off the dime, stop playing the risk-free carry trade and actually start earning their paychecks ARE you!?

    Nope, me neither, banky like cronyism! Isn’t that what La Cosa Nostra means “this ‘thing’ of ours”?

  19. #119
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:51 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Green eyed Lady,

    asked me what I thought of Sarah Palin ( whom I said I liked) and anthropogenic global warming (about which I indicated extreme skepticism), he, like my Maine host, exploded in a fury. ” I can’t believe a nice, educated Jewish woman like you would hold such views,” he said. “I suppose you don’t believe in natural selection either,” he sneered.

    What does Clarice Feldman’s being Jewish have to do w/ anything!? Oh, or does The Left just assume all educated Jews are “on board” 100% lock-step w/ the Prog agenda?

    This is the drum they’ve been bludgeoning since this began. Anyone that doesn’t see things thier way is an intellectual inferior!

  20. #120
    On August 8th, 2011 at 7:55 pm, NiteOwl said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:46 pm, Whirled Peas said: I think a black plastic garbage bag with eye slits would suit Peelousy and Shelia Lee down to the ground. (literally)

    They think the mooselimbs won’t harm them because they are ‘polytickians’.

    Boy are they in for a surprise when sharia law kicks in!

    Allah help the “man” who tries to put a burka over Shelia Lee’s weave! She’d go all pizzed off Wezzi Jefferson on they dum azzes.

    /sarc? I postulate, you decide!

  21. #121
    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:05 pm, rambler said:

    Soros probably jerked bho around to get things set up for a bet against the US dollar. Soros walks away with a bunch of money and if bho can’t make it for another term, Soros will find someone else. Little Timmy Halfwit did his job perfectly. Greenspan the Moron should slink away before he drools on someone. Printing money will result in paying back loans with dollars that have less purchasing power. I want to slap all the pundits that think that is such a great idea. It leaves us with money that is worth less too and it doesn’t fix the over-spending problem.

  22. #122
    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:13 pm, NiteOwl said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 5:46 pm, Whirled Peas said: I think a black plastic garbage bag with eye slits would suit Peelousy and Shelia Lee down to the ground.

    Good thing you included the Wicked Witch of Botox or that would have sounded… wait for it… RAAAACIST!

  23. #123
    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm, DougT said:

    rambler said,

    Printing money will result in paying back loans with dollars that have less purchasing power. I want to slap all the pundits that think that is such a great idea. It leaves us with money that is worth less too and it doesn’t fix the over-spending problem.

    Who said it was “a great idea”? It would be a last resort to avoid default, which was Greenspan’s point.

    And it wouldn’t lead to the hyperinflation that others have mentioned. For an economy this size that would take quadrillions of dollars in additional paper and a complete loss of confidence in the American economy to happen. We can lose confidence in the government, but that isn’t the same as losing confidence in the economy.

    Agree with you completely (and Greenspan would undoubtedly agree to) that preventing an imminent default would not address ridiculous levels of government spending, but it was never intended to do so.

  24. #124
    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:31 pm, DougT said:

    Marshall_Will said,

    Doug, you’re not seriously suggesting banks get off the dime, stop playing the risk-free carry trade and actually start earning their paychecks ARE you!?

    Well…yeah. But the chairman thinks that will cause…inflation! Can’t percolate the economy because prices might rise even higher. Geez.

    The spouse and I are headed to the cooper for our barrel-fittings tomorrow. Getting some custom made oak models with iron rings. Hope they don’t rust right away.

  25. #125
    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:54 pm, RedDog said:

    Greenspan. Isn’t he another Nobel prize winner? I forget. Pardon me, my cheap bourbon is calling my name now.

  26. #126
    On August 8th, 2011 at 9:07 pm, Hangfire said:

    Re: Banks

    I remember my mother getting a Bank Americard back in the ’60s. She was excited, but my father lectured her sternly against running the balance up to the limit of $300. At 8% APR, that is a lot of money to pay back.

    As a chuckle, the APR on my Sears card (zero balance, by the way) is about 24% and the limit is $12,000.

    The interest rate on borrowing hasn’t kept up with the interest rate on savings, has it?

  27. #127
    On August 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    DougT said:

    The spouse and I are headed to the cooper for our barrel-fittings tomorrow. Getting some custom made oak models with iron rings. Hope they don’t rust right away.

    Hey can you get a pair made up for Mrs. Will and I while you’re there? Lol. Not to break my arm off patting myself on the back any more than usual but we bubble-bloggers called this one on the money as well.

    Bankers are chickens by nature. They’ll take the sure thing any day of the week. You know.., the old 3,4,5 Principle? No, not pythagorean.

    Borrow money at 3%, loan it out at 4 ( and be on the golf course by 5! )

  28. #128
    On August 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Hangfire said:

    The interest rate on borrowing hasn’t kept up with the interest rate on savings, has it?

    Hang, even you were willing to go out on a limb, buy some Mater Ltd. Partnership and leverage to high hell you ain’t getting 24%.

    ( What could the downside be? ) sarc

  29. #129
    On August 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm, Terry_Jim said:

    Great Idea!!
    If we make Trillion Dollar coins,
    The debt would stack nearly 1 and a half inches high!!

  30. #130
    On August 8th, 2011 at 11:46 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    Rest assured kiddies, Odumboears speech drove the foreign markets deeper, as I type, the HSI is down again 5.5%, DOW already poised for a 2.3% hit. No He Can’t!

  31. #131
    On August 9th, 2011 at 12:24 am, happy2behere said:

    We need to print more money for the Mexican truck project to take back to their homies.

  32. #132
    On August 9th, 2011 at 12:39 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Usurper is determined to make us a third world country.

  33. #133
    On August 9th, 2011 at 3:06 am, corkie said:

    David Gregory, moderator of “Meet The Press” on NBC: “Are U.S. treasury bonds still safe to invest in?”

    Alan Greenspan, Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve: “Very much so. This is not an issue of credit rating, the United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So, there is zero probability of default.”

    What a doofus! Greenspan claims that U.S. Treasury bonds are still safe to invest in because the United States can devalue its currency to pay them???????

    That’s like telling a mortgage company that it’s safe for them to loan you money because you can always pay them with forged checks so there is zero probability of default.

    Greenspan is a bit mixed up here. Academia has always used the premise that US Treasuries are risk free for calculation purposes. However, such calculations never assumed that printing money wouldn’t cause massive inflation.

  34. #134
    On August 9th, 2011 at 3:08 am, corkie said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 4:12 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    How cool – the dow is down 634 points.

    Thanks Tea Party, you’re making America better everyday.

    I bet you were one of those women that blamed the Jews when Hitler invaded Poland.

  35. #135
    On August 9th, 2011 at 6:23 am, DougT said:

    corkie said,

    That’s like telling a mortgage company that it’s safe for them to loan you money because you can always pay them with forged checks so there is zero probability of default.

    No, it isn’t like that at all. Forged checks are worthless. Increasing the money supply makes the dollar worth less, but it is still a dollar.

    Devaluing a currency would be a last resort method to avoid default. Certainly not anyone’s first choice. Greenspan was just saying that if it came to that, instead of default, we would devalue the dollar.

    If academia (why wouldn’t it be more important what investors thought instead of professors?) uses the premise that treasuries are risk free it would make more sense to go with the lesser risk of inflation than the much greater harm of not paying the debt at all.

    But the point is moot. This is much ado about nothing. Folks might not like Greenspan, but he knows what he is talking about.

  36. #136
    On August 9th, 2011 at 6:56 am, flameinhair said:

    Yeah…”just print more money!”
    YEAH, that’ll work!….’doesn’t need GOLD backing, nor is it backed by oil,coal,silver,copper,wheat,corn, doesn’t need it, just keep printing paper.’
    @&**%*#@#$ &^%$&* #$@>? &@(&)*(&)##$#@ MORONS!!!!!
    Boy…do I feel better.

  37. #137
    On August 9th, 2011 at 8:27 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Sidebar… I just noticed that the URL for this post is rather odd…
    …as if Doug had started writing a completely different post, then changed the post title and content without remembering to change the wordpress URL assigned to the original post title…

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/08/moore-obama-arrest/

    Moore Obama arrest???

  38. #138
    On August 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am, Truesoldier said:

    On August 9th, 2011 at 8:27 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    URL assigned to the original post title…

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/08/moore-obama-arrest/

    Moore Obama arrest???

    Probably a mix up with a new stroy MM is working on in which Michael Moore said that if Obama had more guts he would arrest the head of S&P for what they did.

  39. #139
    On August 9th, 2011 at 10:33 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Hey, Obama promised to fundamentally change America. And he did!

    What are folks complaining about?

  40. #140
    On August 9th, 2011 at 10:37 am, spaceycakes said:

    Hangfire said:
    The interest rate on borrowing hasn’t kept up with the interest rate on savings, has it?

    oh lordy, now you done it.

    Ah, the Reagan years…how my money did grow. Isn’t that so bourgeouis of me?

  41. #141
    On August 9th, 2011 at 10:48 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Luckily, if the US Mint can’t print the money fast enough I hear Parker Bros has the capacity to take up the slack, especially since they can print $500 bills.

  42. #142
    On August 9th, 2011 at 11:17 am, Truesoldier said:

    On August 8th, 2011 at 8:26 pm, DougT We can lose confidence in the government, but that isn’t the same as losing confidence in the economy.

    True, but the latest polling data is showing that we are in fact loosing confidence in the economy:

    PRINCETON, NJ — Americans’ economic confidence plunged to -53 in the week ending Aug. 7, a level not seen since the recession days of March 2009.

    I’ll be honest I do not know how low it would have to go before we are seen as having totally lost confidence in the economy, but it does appear we are headed in that direction (I just hope we never get there).

  43. #143
    On August 9th, 2011 at 11:35 am, Hiraghm said:

    You know, had I been President in ’93, Somalia wouldn’t be facing this famine. Just as there wouldn’t be any Somali pirates…

    No Somalis = no famine, no pirates.

  44. #144
    On August 9th, 2011 at 11:42 am, hawkeye54 said:

    You know, had I been President in ’93, Somalia wouldn’t be facing this famine. Just as there wouldn’t be any Somali pirates…

    No Somalis = no famine, no pirates.

    Exactly. The left prefer to treat conficts as law enforcement and humanitarian issues.

    To the left the Somali pirates are as much “victims” as the people facing famine, instead of enemies engaged in war.

  45. #145
    On August 9th, 2011 at 12:08 pm, Paratus said:

    I hear that the pirate business is booming. Might be a good investment.
    Happyscrapper on deck with a war skillet would leave them shakin in their deck shoes.

  46. #146
    On August 9th, 2011 at 12:30 pm, rplat said:

    Yes, but how long will people continue accepting money that’s worth nothing more than the fibered paper it’s printed on? Is Greenspan really this stupid?

  47. #147
    On August 9th, 2011 at 12:44 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Is this the same philosophy as, “I can’t be out of money! I still have checks left!”?

  48. #148
    On August 9th, 2011 at 1:11 pm, corkie said:

    On August 9th, 2011 at 6:23 am, DougT said:

    corkie said,
    That’s like telling a mortgage company that it’s safe for them to loan you money because you can always pay them with forged checks so there is zero probability of default.

    No, it isn’t like that at all.

    No, you’re wrong. There are absolutely similarities.

    Forged checks are worthless. Increasing the money supply makes the dollar worth less, but it is still a dollar.

    Claiming that an investment is safe because the issuer of the securities is capable of devaluing those securities is completely stupid. There is absolutely no way for you to defend Greenspan’s statement.

    Devaluing a currency would be a last resort method to avoid default.

    Tell me why you would want to avoid default? What’s wrong with default? Is it because default causes investors to doubt the issuer’s ability to insure the expected return on a security? Devaluing a currency does the same thing. Devaluing a currency causes investors to doubt the issuer’s ability to insure the expected return on a security. So, again, Greenspan’s comment that a U.S. Treasury investment is SAFE because the U.S. has the ability to devalue the currency is completely asinine.

    If academia (why wouldn’t it be more important what investors thought instead of professors?)…

    It much more important what investors think. That’s exactly my point. Greenspan is spouting academia crap instead of reality.

    If academia… uses the premise that treasuries are risk free it would make more sense to go with the lesser risk of inflation than the much greater harm of not paying the debt at all.

    1) You don’t know the definition of default. A default doesn’t mean that no payment occurs at all. Default means that the issuer of the debt doesn’t completely comply with repayment terms. A late repayment is a default.

    2) Would you consider a safe transaction one in which I devalued my car AFTER you bought it from me? Would you consider it a safe investment to purchase a share of an apartment building if you knew that your partner was planning to devalue the apartment building after you purchased your share?

    3) Academia’s premise has always been flawed. Assuming U.S. Treasuries are risk free (without the risk of devaluation) isn’t a sound premise which means that this concept has been taught incorrectly for generations. This major flaw hasn’t mattered until now because this is the first time that the issue needs to be addressed.

    What I’m telling you is that people, such as Greenspan, that are relying on this flawed premise are stupid. Times have changed. Reality is different. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand this.

    But the point is moot. This is much ado about nothing. Folks might not like Greenspan, but he knows what he is talking about.

    There’s a difference between accurately spouting academic crap and understanding reality. Greenspan doesn’t understand reality, therefore he doesn’t know what he is talking about.

    It would have been accurate to state that the U.S. is able to avoid default by printing more money. That statement is incomplete but not inaccurate.

    However, it’s completely inaccurate to state that U.S. Treasuries are “very much so” safe because the U.S. can print money.

    You should have thought more carefully about this before you decided to irresponsibly defend him.

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