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1. #1
   On August 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am, John Deaux said:

   Delay, shuffle, stall and eventually the compliant media will make it go away.

2. #2
   On August 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am, letget said:

   They can move these slugs, but Issa and Grassley know who they are. Please, please bring all involved before a hearing under oath! Don’t let this get tossed under the bus Issa. This is way way to important. holder, big sis, and bho need to be held accountable.
   L

3. #3
   On August 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am, Buy Danish said:

   Maybe he’ll be reassigned to handle raids of guitar factories.

4. #4
   On August 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am, Paratus said:

   No one high up will be charged with the gun running. When the folks in charge of the gun running are involved and are in the ATF and DOJ.
   The ‘cleaners’ on ‘Fast and Furious’ have already done there job.

5. #5
   On August 30th, 2011 at 11:59 am, EWTHeckman said:

   Interesting slant to the article:

   The program tracked illegal gun sales,

   That was the claim, but as far as I know they didn’t actually track any guns. The apparent purpose of this program was to generate an outcry so they could use “guns sent to Mexico” as an excuse to violate the 2nd Amendment. Ironically, the reality was that the ATF was the one breaking the law and forcing legitimate gun dealers to go along with it against their better judgement and normal practice.

6. #6
   On August 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

   Fast and Furious update: DOJ to shuffle ATF director Kenneth Melson

   Cartel: Aw that’s too bad, he’s a good fella!

7. #7
   On August 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm, EWTHeckman said:

   The ‘cleaners’ on ‘Fast and Furious’ have already done there job.

   No we haven’t. They still have government jobs.

8. #8
   On August 30th, 2011 at 12:03 pm, thejim said:

   We can’t get rid of these thugs fast enough. Way too much damage being done on every front.

9. #9
   On August 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm, GladzKravtz said:

   Hey Lefty Progressives, how about some of that Valerie Plame affair outrage!

10. #10
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm, Truesoldier said:

    I still want to know what Kevin O’Reilly new about all this:

    At a lengthy hearing on ATF’s controversial gunwalking operation today, a key ATF manager told Congress he discussed the case with a White House National Security staffer as early as September 2010. The communications were between ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office, Bill Newell, and White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O’Reilly.

    This info came out in Congressional hearings at the end of July.

    Here is more of the testimony by Newell:

    Congressional investigators obtained an email from Newell to O’Reilly in September of last year in which Newell began with the words: “you didn’t get this from me.”

    “What does that mean,” one member of Congress asked Newell, ” ‘you didn’t get this from me?’ ”

    “Obviously he was a friend of mine,” Newell replied, “and I shouldn’t have been sending that to him.”

    Newell told Congress that O’Reilly had asked him for information.

    “Why do you think he asked for that information,” Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) asked Newell.

    “He was asking about the impact of Project Gunrunner to brief people in preparation for a trip to Mexico… what we were doing to combat firearms trafficking and other issues.”

11. #11
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm, VikingMom said:

    Please, please, please let this whole sordid mess hit the MSM! I feel like I’m a hamster caught in an exercise ball going round and round with this story!

    The hit piece on Issa in the New York Times shows that they know he’s onto something huge. Now we just have to “hope” he doesn’t back down!

12. #12
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    GladzKravtz said:
    Hey Lefty Progressives, how about some of that Valerie Plame affair outrage!

    Crickets! That was a great Special and well worth the time. Progbamabots need to understand, unlike Watergate and scandals past, we Conservatives aren’t exactly ‘revelling’ in this particular FOLLY and misadventure of the current Administration.

    Far from it. We’re repulsed, alarmed and disgusted. We do not secretly hope more Agents are killed or injured so long as the corpses land on Obama/Holder’s doorstep.

    That’s your bag.

13. #13
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm, VikingMom said:
    Please, please, please let this whole sordid mess hit the MSM!

    Not with a Democrat administration. The MSM don’t just carry water for the Dems, they heat it, pour it into golden tubs filled with rose petals and scrub their backs (among other things).

14. #14
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm, peteee said:

    whats next, guns, guitars, can brothels be far behind. oh wait, didn’t they already do that in nevada, and didn’t they screw that one up too. only the government can run a brothel so bad, it doesn’t make money. they already took over the numbers racket, and the schools are still broke. perhaps i am looking at this wrong, and the guitar raid was for a protection racket.

15. #15
    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm, VikingMom said:

    Please, please, please let this whole sordid mess hit the MSM!

    If Tea Party members and other Conservatives were being rounded up and sent to “re-education camps” the MSM would not report it.

    The ends justify the means in among Progressives.

16. #16
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    peteee said:
    whats next, guns, guitars, can brothels be far behind. oh wait, didn’t they already do that in nevada, and didn’t they screw that one up too. only the government can run a brothel so bad, it doesn’t make money. they already took over the numbers racket, and the schools are still broke. perhaps i am looking at this wrong, and the guitar raid was for a protection racket.

    Well, when guitars are outlawed, only outlaws will have guitars.

17. #17
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:05 pm, Hangfire said:

    Melson should be reassigned to a cell, with 3 hots and a dry flop.

18. #18
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:05 pm, Blackstone said:

    I guess you can call this little operation “Fast and Furious II”.

19. #19
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:06 pm, yaymm said:

    Worry not, this isn’t going away for some time. There are lots of people that still have not been interviewed, who will be in future months.

    As you all know, Congressional investigations move at a snail’s pace. We have to be patient and let Issa and Grassley do their jobs.

    Eventually, there will likely be a Special Prosecutor, who will use the Congressional investigation as a starting point, not the end game and the people at the top will probably be identified. Prosecuted, I’m not so sure, unfortunatly.

    All these transfers are transparently an effort to keep better track of the people responsible. They are being watched by the people who have not been identified yet.

    I’d caution them to keep a watch over their shoulders when they cross busy streets.

20. #20
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:10 pm, torpedoman2002 said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm, Truesoldier said:
    I still want to know what Kevin O’Reilly new about all this:

    I would like to know what BHO knew about all of this.

21. #21
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm, rambler said:

    There are so many scandals floating around this administration. It’s like watching someone spin plates waiting for them to crash. bho is on the edge of implosion.

22. #22
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:15 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    That’s your bag.

    Progressives’ bag.

    Issa can only investigate and expose – it is in this DOJ’s best interest to do little or nothing.
    The full force of the sun has to shine on this if we are to make any dent in the corruption @ the top. Sunlight may sway voters too. Pray for this country.

23. #23
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:26 pm, T-Bone said:

    Like a shell game, they just keep moving the pieces so no one can piece it together. Just create some chaos and it makes it harder to follow. Brilliant!

    Holder lied, border agents died.

24. #24
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:27 pm, DonkeyHoatie said:

    Reassigned? Another government employee union perk. In the private sector, those people get fired, with Congressmen and the media cheering their demise.

25. #25
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:28 pm, RedDog said:

    Sorry. Not good enough to cover things up. I want to see firings and impeachment. Criminal prosecution too.

26. #26
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm, VikingMom said:

    Hmmmm – Melson sounds like somebody has gotten some dirt on him – Chicago style. I actually thought that he was going to resist being thrown under the bus and start singing but now it looks like he’s going to shut up and eat his peas. Bummer!

27. #27
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:36 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    How about some duty reassignments for these Gunwalker clowns in Jan. 2013?
    ***
    Remove them from their cushy office jobs. Issue them dayglow orange jumpsuits and helmets with a strobe light on them. And bullet “proof” vests with bullseye / cross hairs on them.
    ***
    Then send them to the Southern Border to check for the guns they allowed to move to Mexico. Same pay as the Border Patrol guys who will “back them up” from a quarter mile behind as they get to take point and check serial numbers. And as they troll for AK-47, hunting rifle, and .50 cal sniper rifle fire from the South.
    ***
    An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth solution.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

28. #28
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:43 pm, AmericanGirl30 said:

    Republicans need to do more, faster. And somehow we need to get this out to the general public. This needs to be the end of Holder at minimum, and hopefully Obama too.

29. #29
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:43 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Fast and Furious huh? Funny, he don’t look like Vin Diesel.

30. #30
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:44 pm, et said:

    Dear Barak:

    To clear up any misunderstanding on your part, let me reiterate. When we said that we wanted Kenneth Melson in prison, we meant just that. Not placing him in charge of the Bureau of Prisons.

31. #31
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:50 pm, Iowa Guy said:

    The antics of this entire administration would be highly entertaining…if they weren’t so vile, corrupt & disgusting.

32. #32
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, Augustavo said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm, VikingMom said:
    Please, please, please let this whole sordid mess hit the MSM!

    Don’t worry, the MSM will get on this right after they have thoroughly investigated the corruption of Maxine Waters, Bawny Fwank and Chris Dodd.

33. #33
    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    yaymm said:
    Worry not, this isn’t going away for some time. There are lots of people that still have not been interviewed, who will be in future months.

    As you all know, Congressional investigations move at a snail’s pace. We have to be patient and let Issa and Grassley do their jobs.

    Inclined to agree. I was quite young during Watergate ( 8th grader? ) and the foaming at the mouth Dem’s incessant calling for Nixon’s head to be swung about by the tongue seemed childishly impatient. Even by an 8th grader’s standards.

    I mean every hour he remained in office was just unbearable for Dims. They drove us all crazy. I’m confident these ‘plumbers’ aren’t going to get away w/ jack. Right now their only hope is a rush to prosecution creates mistakes. They know they’re toast.

34. #34
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:05 pm, martin.musculus said:

    “… Screw up move up…”, What? These people have been promoted because they fulfilled their assignments admirably! When you successfully complete an assignment in your job you’d expect to receive the benefits, correct?

    Well, there was the little burbill of getting caught and tipping Prez Stinky’s hand, but with the fawning scatophagic MSM that’s not a very damaging “oops”. It is an ongoing inconvenience, but some poor slob will be thrown under the bus – none of Holder or his color-coded protected class Overseers will suffer for it, and as for the Slopes on the Progie Plantaion… well, you know that you gotta break eggs to make an omlet and the unimportant must sacrifice for the convenience of Their Betters!

35. #35
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm, Marshall_Will said:
    Right now their only hope is a rush to prosecution creates mistakes. They know they’re toast.

    Not to mention a rush to prosecution could leave us with just prosecutions of the scapegoats.

36. #36
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm, marco said:

    Hannity certainly deserves praise for taking the battle to Obama. Lately I’ve noticed that Fox has almost turned the whole network over to Bob Beckel. He is Fox’s male version of Donna Brazil. If I were the other Four of the Five I would renegotiate my contract to never appear on air with such a jerk.He cheapens every discussion with vapid and inane comments and he lowers the others to his banal level of chatter.He reminds me of some drunken uncle who has substituted food for alcohol, tells dirty jokes, and tries to get the young nieces to sit in his lap. The other four (who are bright) are suffering guilt by association with this oaf and their careers will suffer.He causes them all to look like a bunch of stooges.Am I wrong?

37. #37
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Melson previously gave testimony to Congress in July that high level Department of Justice officials tried to limit his cooperation with the Congressional investigation. During that closed door testimony, Director Melson appeared with his own private attorney.

    I’m sort of surprised he hasn’t woken up dead.

38. #38
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:27 pm, sparethoughts said:

    If someone in the military pulled this stuff, out on their ear or in jail!

39. #39
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, swmntman said:

    Well I for one, am so happy that this whole sordid mess is now behind us! I mean except for the part about charging the entire damnable administration with accessory to commit murder of course.
    

    Excerpt from the Declaration of Independence…That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…

40. #40
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, letget said:

    Well it seems another has bit the dust in the F&F thing! US attorney from AZ resigned!

    http://www.kfyi.com/pages/broomhead.html?article=9044302
    L

41. #41
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:49 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    From what I’ve read, Fast and Furious was a whole lot more than getting guns to drug cartels. It involved people very interested in gun control and thwarting the 2nd Amendment. This is going to get more political as we near the 2012 elections. Reps Issa and Grassly will be threatened or worse. Whoever is pulling Obeyme’s and Holder’s strings have much invested. This is some very dirty business.

42. #42
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:50 pm, letget said:

    #41
    Sorry Michelle, I didn’t see your up-date on this.
    L

43. #43
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Can you just imagine how giddy Obama must have been when he was sworn in as POTUS and had the POWER to choose as the Attorney General of the United States, a crony as corrupt and sleazy as he is. As long as Holder is in that position, there will be NO JUSTICE. Zero,zilch, nada.

44. #44
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:54 pm, NotTheMama said:

    
    This was not an ‘embarrassing scandal’, it was a ‘deadly scandal’.

    Now they are running for cover.

45. #45
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:54 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Agree, Happy. Holder is Obeyme’s lap dog. He will NOT undergo scrutiny while Odope is in office.

46. #46
    On August 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm, Flyoverman said:

    This is going to get more political as we near the 2012 elections. Reps Issa and Grassly will be threatened or worse.

    Senator Grassley is not up for re-election in 2012; re-elected in 2010. If the Dems target Issa that will be a huge red flag. They do that and all hell will break loose.

47. #47
    On August 30th, 2011 at 3:00 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Of course there is also this story:

    The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ “Operation Fast and Furious,” except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States. Zambada-Niebla claims he was permitted to smuggle drugs from 2004 until his arrest in 2009.

    According to the court documents, Mexican lawyer Humberto Loya-Castro, another high-level Sinaloa cartel leader, had his 1995 U.S. drug-trafficking case dismissed in 2008 after serving as an informant for 10 years for the U.S. government.

    Guzman and the Zambadas allegedly provided agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration, FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement with information about other Mexican drug traffickers through Loya-Castro.

    Makes me wonder if the two casses are connected.

48. #48
    On August 30th, 2011 at 3:12 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    marco said:

    Am I wrong?

    I don’t believe so. Beckel’s brain is so pickled regurgitation of stale talking points is al he’s capable of.

    What should be even more frustrating to all decent citizens is, P’BO and Holder never once had intentions to resolve the issues at the Border. Never. Even in the face of ever escalating and senseless violence.

    All it ever presented was just another vehicle to forward The Agenda. These two are more revolting than the capt. of the cheerleaders who always manages to make every discussion about ‘her’.

49. #49
    On August 30th, 2011 at 3:29 pm, Oh-nO said:

    marco#37, You are correct in your observation of Beckel, another twist to this saga being Allen Colmes is the offspring.

50. #50
    On August 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm, kwrxxx said:

    Yawn! So What!

51. #51
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:02 pm, Paratus said:

    Kwrxxx: Yawn

52. #52
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm, TigerLady said:

    Lately I’ve noticed that Fox has almost turned the whole network over to Bob Beckel.

    What is that about? He’s such a lemming and I wonder how he can keep a straight face when he’s blathering on with Dumbocrat talking points. Booze soaked brain?
    He occasionally drops the “I’m a Christian, too” statement so we’ll all get the warm and fuzzy feeling knowing he’s “one of us”. Blehhhh.

53. #53
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:22 pm, semper fi said:

    Reassigned my A_ _!! They should be fired and tried for the murder of the young Border Patrolman. This is disgusting …..
    we desperately need some changes in this administration… Jerry USMC (Ret)

54. #54
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Mitoch said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm, TigerLady said:

    Lately I’ve noticed that Fox has almost turned the whole network over to Bob Beckel.

    What is that about? He’s such a lemming and I wonder how he can keep a straight face when he’s blathering on with Dumbocrat talking points. Booze soaked brain?
    He occasionally drops the “I’m a Christian, too” statement so we’ll all get the warm and fuzzy feeling knowing he’s “one of us”. Blehhhh.

    It may be even worse. I’ve seen Jeff Zeleny (he of the “enchanted” question in the Obama presser) from the NYT on Special Report’s panel. What’s that all about?

55. #55
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm, stillontheroad said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm, kwrxxx said:
    Yawn! So What!

    Explain that remark -

56. #56
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:50 pm, semper fi said:

    OFF TOPIC ..I tried to post a comment on the Fox News Sunday forum regarding Roger Ailes recently hiring so many Libs at Fox, but the censor would not allow it. Sad to say folks, but Fox is slowly sliding into the MSM, so I wouldn’t expect too much of them in the future. Jerry USMC (Ret)

57. #57
    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:59 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On August 30, 2011 at 03:50 pm, semper fi said:
    

    OFF TOPIC ..I tried to post a comment on the Fox News Sunday forum regarding Roger Ailes recently hiring so many Libs at Fox, but the censor would not allow it. Sad to say folks, but Fox is slowly sliding into the MSM, so I wouldn’t expect too much of them in the future. Jerry USMC (Ret)

    Fox started nice, but I think they took the leftists’ criticisms too seriously. Someone needs to start a real conservative TV network/news channel. If I had a couple billion laying around, I’d do it.

58. #58
    On August 30th, 2011 at 5:01 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    Can’t remember offhand, has Melson lawyered up with PRIVATE counsel? He may yet sing.

    Extradite Holder!

59. #59
    On August 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Reassigned my A_ _!! They should be fired and tried for the murder of the young Border Patrolman.

    Amen. Instead, screw up in the fed bureaucracy and merely get transferred or even promoted is the SOP.

60. #60
    On August 30th, 2011 at 5:26 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 5:18 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    Instead, screw up in the fed bureaucracy and merely get transferred or even promoted is the SOP.

    My guess is that he has serious dirt on those above him that would tie them directly to this (and possibly other)scandal. So they shuffle him off somewhere else and let the heat die down. Once that happens he will get promoted once again.

61. #61
    On August 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    semper fi said:
    plymouthacclaim

    Don’t think that show (The Five) with Beckel will make it. BB simply, is just not good. The show seems as though it was patched together at the last minute to fill the Beck void. Bet it’s gone in a year.

62. #62
    On August 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm, SgtSchultz said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Not with a Democrat administration. The MSM don’t just carry water for the Dems, they heat it, pour it into golden tubs filled with rose petals and scrub their backs (among other things).

    “The Presidential penis is clean, Your Highness.”

63. #63
    On August 30th, 2011 at 6:43 pm, bodfish said:

    not original with me, but simplify the line and keep hitting it:

    Holder lied! Lawman died!

    Has the characteristic of an Alinsky attack, but has the complete advantage of being true.

    Holder lied! Lawman died!

64. #64
    On August 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm, ChapBix said:

    #37. On August 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm, marco said:

    My thought is that the other four look brilliant with Beckel on there as the Dumbocrat Obama Kool-Aid drinking prog foil. He never fails to amaze me with his regressive tripe. That he is the lone prog/regressive tells me that Fox News is not going off into the deep left end of the political pond as some on here fear. Alas, they are also not on the right of center.

65. #65
    On August 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm, rightisright said:

    this clown needs to be prosecuted for dereliction of duty, found guilty, taken out back of the court room and… the end.

    Prosecuting these breakers of the flaw of the land is the only way to rid ourselves of these thuggish, control freaks.

    I want to see Bawney Fwank and his pal Chris the Corrupt Dod prosecuted, and you can see them on visitors day at Leavenworth for their crimes in destroying the financial banking system as it was in America…resulting in the financial collapse we are in now.

66. #66
    On August 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm, semper fi said:

    To bodfish #64

    I like it …should be a bumper sticker …

    Jerry

67. #67
    On August 30th, 2011 at 10:07 pm, mondamay said:

    On August 30th, 2011 at 4:59 pm, plymouthacclaim said:
    Fox started nice, but I think they took the leftists’ criticisms too seriously. Someone needs to start a real conservative TV network/news channel. If I had a couple billion laying around, I’d do it.

    It would be funny to see how fast the lefties dropped their Fox News nonsense if there were a real conservative network. Heads would be exploding…

68. #68
    On August 31st, 2011 at 9:10 am, martin.musculus said:

    GladzKravtz says: semper fi said: plymouthacclaim Don’t think that show (The Five) with Beckel will make it. BB simply, is just not good. The show seems as though it was patched together at the last minute to fill the Beck void. Bet it’s gone in a year. Posted on August 30th, 2011

    I enjoyed Glenn Beck! His ratings were among the highest on TV News. I don’t understand why he left. Was he canned? I missed the last month & ahalf of shows b/c of hospitalization, but no one I’ve spoken with seems to know why he left.

    Of course, FOX never was a *conservative* news channel –– it just seemed that way because it was more toward the center, i.e. somewhat less of a Progie Propaganda Mill.

    Watching it, it seems to be sliding towards the Progressive Regression.