Shock Finding: The Sun Has Dominant Control Over Earth’s Climate
**Written by Doug Powers
You know, I’ve always wondered if that enormous, fiery, scorching hot ball in the sky that is 109 times bigger than our planet might have some impact on temperature changes and climate cycles here on Earth, and if the causes of same weren’t limited to styrofoam cups, SUVs, hamburgers and things Republicans do. Now it’s looking more and more like that could be the case:
The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.
The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.
In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.
The results of the CLOUD experiment may never get a lot of mainstream attention, mostly due to efforts to avoid politicizing the findings and angering those who stand to greatly profit from selling AGW as scientific fact — which if you think about it, is politicizing the findings, except in the opposite direction.
We’ll now wait for Al Gore to accuse CERN, and possibly the sun, of being racist.
**Written by Doug Powers
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The progressives around my neighborhood won’t let stinkin facts change their feelings!
Well blow me over with a feather! The sun is doing all this and has since earth was formed? It’s not cars, coal refineries, or animals passing gas? Finally we have gotten to the bottom of the gw thing!
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This one’s dedicated to you, Fat Albert:
Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting
Little darling, it seems like years since it’s been clear
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it’s all right
It’s all right.
Pfffft!
Heliocentric Climate Change (HCC) is the truth.
Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is a big lie.
When people come around me spouting the AGW big lie, perhaps I should take Al Gore’s advice and say to them:
Won’t stop the progs, they’ll just come up with another fraudulent environmental concept to advance their redistributon of wealth scheme. Which it was and still is all about.
They really don’t care about the environement, other than their own.
SHAZAAAAM! Looky thar sargeant. It shor hurts mah eyes! Dang! Fancy that!
Who’da thunk it? The sun is hot? /s
Now that we’ve finally solved the eternal mystery that has been befuddling humanity since the beginning of time (“Mom! What is the sun for?”), maybe we can work on they mystery of wetness.
That is because CERN has real scientists. They have Physicists, Chemists and Astronomers. Gore has pseudo-scientists who call themselves Climate Scientists and Climatologists.
Real science uses facts and hard data and uses the scientific method and peer review. It does not jump to conclusions, nor settle on consensus.
Pseudo science uses disparate data, fudge factors, statistical models and unfounded projections and calls it science. It is anti-science and only exists on the whim of politicians who use it to wield control over an unsuspecting population.
Thank God for real scientists.
CERN… IPCC… CERN…. IPCC…. Now I wonder which organization has more credibility? mmmm Finally legitimate scientists are bring the hammer or real science to the “debate”. Getting sick of amateur dilletentes, activists, and political grifters leading public opinion by the nose. Hopefully this will put an end to it.
I understand these people hate hydrocarbon products and SUVs but they need to be aggressively called out every time they trot out fake science to change public policy.
Finally legitimate scientists are bringing the hammer of real science…
bad fingers…
The sun? Really? I’m supposed to believe that a giant ball of hydrogen engaged in nuclear fusion millions of miles away controls the temperature here? I’ll stick with science, thank you very much.
Actually, the explanation in your excerpt is still wrong (over simplified). The solar wind from the Sun and Sun’s magnetic field and the Earth’s magnetic field all combine in this case. The wind is high when the Sun is at a Solar Maximum, and weak during a Solar Minimum, as it has been for the last two years or so. The solar wind AND the Sun’s magnetic field work together to create a protective bubble around the earth which shields cosmic rays. This much we already knew. What wasn’t proven was the theory that cosmic rays cause high clouds to form as they blast through the upper atmosphere. These clouds decrease the Earth’s albedo, or the amount of heat created by sunlight, reflecting that back into space immediately, which over a period of time, allows the Earth to cool slightly.
The Sun, meanwhile, never really varies it’s overall output much, which is why scientists have long (incorrectly) argued that the Sunspot Cycle has little overall effect on our climate changes from warm to cool to warm again. Light energy as measured in the visible and infrared spectrums, doesn’t change but a few percentage points.
When the Sun is at a high point, its solar wind and magnetic field have a farther reach, and they prevent cosmic rays from bombarding us. This means less high clouds, so the Earth warms a little. During a low point, the solar wind and magnetic field pull back so more cosmic rays reach our atmosphere instead of being steered around the Earth. This generates more high clouds, and we see cooling, just as we have since 1998.
The bigger news from all of this is that it conclusively, 100% disproves the CO2 Greenhouse Gas theory because it shows that high cloud formation has a much greater effect on worldwide temperatures than any trace increase in a trace gas in our atmosphere. This fact is something which no global model currently in use can accomodate, as they’re not programmed to account for clouds. In the most simple terms possible, the results being pandered from every global climate model today are 100% wrong, as they all have a built-in warming bias to their results, because they all assume the Earth’s overall atmospheric albedo is constant. Epic scientific fail…
CERN says it’s cosmic rays, Al Gore says it’s cow farts.
Hmmmmm, that’s a tough one to decide.
Look for them to start talking about “Climate Disruption”. They won’t have to prove anything about climate change – they will say that it causes disruption therefore the government will still have to tax you at whatever rate it thinks necessary!
wow, i would have never guessed that. i thought it was just an annoying thing in the sky that fades colors in my house, and superheats my car if i let the windows closed. i would have never put two and two together, to think it could also warm the rest of the planet, i thought it was my little secret. who let my secret out? did wikileaks tell anybody? does this mean i can toss out my curly light bulbs and put the old ones back in?
The truth wins …
The problem is that CERN’s director is a politically correct hack who is trying to dismiss the findings as no big deal:
The ever shrinking portfolio of Goredolph the Bloated. ManBearPigs girth is inversely proportional to the size of his hedge fund prospects.
Jessica 6 and Logan 5 exit the cave.
Jessica 6 (upon seeing the Sun for the first time): “What is it?”
Logan 5: “I don’t know. Whatever it is, it’s warm.”
I’ve always been amused that the very climatologists, who can’t predict the weather one week into the future with any consistency, could predict the weather 10 years down the road within 1 degree.
Good news indeed. Let’s not forget the libtards will move to another cause. They won’t stop until they transfer all of the wealth from the producers to the non producers.
Thank you, Professor Obvious.
AlGore’s a couple chakras shy of a full Zen.
It might take a few more years, but I’m sure they’ll be screaming about the coming Ice Age shortly.
Suggested headline:
In keeping with the media’s apparent surprise to any fact that would be considered common sense to most people who can actually think for themselves.
Nice post. Very informative. I’m really glad Krugman’s Klingons are not involved. I hate Klingons.
The hoaxsters won’t give up. They never do. They will try to discredit this study and repeat the talking point that 4 billion scientists agree with them and if you don’t then you are a cave dweller with a sloped forehead.
No doubt it will be something like Man-Made carbon emmisions block out the sun.
The Media are such tools. Syncophantic and… Very. Useful. Idiots.
I just heard that Obama did not even ride the busses from state to state. He only rode them a mile or two then he flew Air Force one to the next stop and had the busses flown as well:
Solar activity is the only piece of data that correlates to the variations in earth’s temperature. There is nothing else that corelates to it.
I still find it remarkable that no one is openly discussing plans to impeach this Caligula. There is ample evidence. We cannot go another 15 months of this.
The whole thing was a shame. Do you think the Secret Servce would let any President ride down a highway in a bus? Unless he is in an M1A2 tank he would be dead meet for an anti-tank weapon.
Wow! The sun is approximately 93 million miles away, and I can see it without my glasses.
Does that mean I’m not near-sighted?
Oh, Al….. something bigger than you controls Gorbal Warming. Which probably means that purchasing you little carbon credit things are next to useless. Time to find another scam.
But…..but…..but he graduated from the finest private school in Hawaii.
Hangfire, you can lead a horse to water, you can’t make him drink. He only warmed the seat in class.
This is a piece of the artcle that explains it all, politics included:
What the heck? I learned about the Sun and sun spots in my 6th grade science classes in 1946! That’s why I’ve never believed anything but the Sun was responsible for our heating and cooling cycles, just like wind and the moon effect our tidal movements and waves in the Oceans. Glad to hear my teacher was right! Oh and ther was that gravity thingy too!
As for CO2, a lot of the climate zealots don’t seem to realize that every time we humans exhale, we emit CO2, the left over by-product of the oxygen we breathe in with every inspration. If they did, they’d have to call for us to stop breathing so much.
If there were too much CO2 in our air, we wouldn’t be walking around alive, as we are. CO2 is the triggering mechanism that causes us to feel the need to breathe. Without that trigger, we would stop breathing. Too much CO2 on the other hand, would cause us to hyperventilate to the max, until we passed out from lack of oxygen.
What dumbo’s they are and what a scam they support, it’s got to come to an end. Maybe this is the beginning of the end.
Liar! Paul Krugman was just in the NYTimes yesterday reassuring us that Republicans are anti-science and that we are all idiots for asking for actual scientific evidence rather than simply believing what “scientists” tell us. If he says so, why would you want evidence!?
Chicken entrails!! There must be chicken entrails in any comprehensive explanation of why the earth warms and cools.
All I know is that I once saw an ex-beauty queen, now weather girl, on the most ruthlessly scientific program on TV – Larry King – interrupting an MIT scientist saying “It’s real Larry, it’s real.” If I can’t believe her for scientific explanations, who can I believe?
Well of course the sun is racist. Look at all the different kinds of light it gives off. White, yellow, red, blue, etc. It gives off every color of light except black.
Idiot! It’s fish farts that cause waves and tides! I can’t believe how anti-science you people are.
Well there are black holes, but not in our neighborhood.
I’m now refering to is as “Piltdown Man-made Warming”.
Or possibly “Anthroprevaricatic Global Warming”.
The chimps in the MSM have their ears, eyes, and mouths covered. Their fanfare is reserved for spouts from the Gorebacle.
They have. These “settled science” types want to reduce the world’s population to around 2 billion people. Of course, they want YOU to stop breathing. Not them. Never them…
I prefer to call it Man-Made GoreBull warming.
August 30th, 2011 — BREAKING: Reports are trickling in that Al Gore has broken into the Large Hadron Collider facility near Geneva, Switzerland, and is presently running amok. Scientists working at the facility say that the failed 2000 presidential candidate and current climate change alarmist entered through the front door with a sledgehammer and “just starting swinging.” It is believed Gore was heard screaming, “Since none of you $#@%&!*s believe me, I have to take matters into my own hands! You all should have listened!”
More information forthcoming.
UPDATE: Workers at the LHC facility managed to subdue enraged former Vice President Al Gore, but not after he destroyed several vital instrument panels. However, scientists believe they now have the situation under contr
LOL….Al Gore imploded…
Aloha Guy, my bad. My old adled brain forgot about the fishie flatulents.
Archeological evidence has shown that the climate was changing LONG BEFORE the introduction of the Cadillac Escalade. Unless mastodons were driving them, too.
Nah it was from the cavemen driving SUDs (Sport Utility Dinosaurs)
Well, yeah. That pesky bright ball in the sky kept interfering with all their experiments.
And so a new model validates reality.
I believe a reposting of this is in order:
scientists-trace-heat-wave-to-massive-star-at-center
Be Prepared
No doubt, before long the government will embark on a crash program to build a Dyson Sphere.
Can you just imagine the size of those farts those mastodons were putting out?!
109 times the size of the Earth? Bah! That’s only in diameter. It’s more like 1.3 Million times the size, if you go by volume.
How about combining them?
mmmm fishfarts. I love them. Even better are marinated beefarts grilled over a slow grill fire. Yummy.
Excellent point. The Sun’s radius (and diameter) of the sun may by 109 times the size of Earth’s radius (and diameter), but volume is proportional to r^3 (r cubed, or r*r*r).
Volume = PI*r^3
So, when the sun’s radius is 109 times the size of Earth’s radius, then the sun’s volume is about 1.3 million times the volume of Earth.
Again, excellent point.
Oh-My-Gosh….why doesn’t Al Bore’s head explode and put all of us out of our misery having to listen to him!!!
Hi, I Took the Red Pill…I am dizzy at your post. Mathematics, particularly at the high level you have demonstrated here, was never my strong suit. So, I’d be lying if I said I had a clue what you and molonlabe said. Heh.
The damage has already been done.
People have already begun thinking “green”. They take energy efficiency and “environmental impact” as serious considerations when purchasing products.
Business has now seen the hand writing on the wall, and embraced the Green agenda. They’ve committed to pander to the Greens, therefore they now have a monetary interest in continuing to promote Green products and agendas, even if they aren’t good for “the environment”.
So, the goal of turning the world “Green” has been achieved, even if we manage to do away with the climate change hoax and even if we manage to avoid cap and tax.
Green is the new Stupid
Hi FirstSkirt!
For what it’s worth…
The diameter of a circle is two times the radius. D = 2*r
The circumference of a circle is “PI” (“PI” = approximately 3.14) times the diameter. C = PI * D = PI * 2 * r
The area of a circle is PI * the radius squared = PI * r * r
The volume of a sphere is PI * the radius cubed = PI * r * r * r
So, while the radius of the sun is 109 times the radius of the Earth,
the volume of the sun is 109 * 109 * 109 times the volume of the Earth.
And 109 * 109 * 109 = approximately 1.3 million.
It may help to think in terms of squares and cubes…
A square that is 1 inch long on each side has an area of 1*1 = 1 square inch, but a square that is 2 inches long on each side has an area of 2*2 = 4 square inches.
And a cube that is 1 inch long on each side has a volume of 1*1*1 = 1 cubic inch, but a cube that is 2 inches long on each side has a volume of 2*2*2 = 8 cubic inches.
The cube that is 109 inches long on each side has a volume of 109*109*109 = 1,295,029 cubic inches.
So molonlabe is absolutely correct that the sun is not 109 times bigger than our planet, but rather 1.3 million times bigger than our planet.
I really like that.
I have though about opening up a green parking gararge in Seattle….Paint the building green so it could be seen for miles and paint the parking spaces green. Then charge an extra premium for the ability to park in a “green” garage (notice I never said enviromentally friendly).
*I’m still waiting for a class action lawsuit against Spotted Owl Bore and all of his affiliate scam companies for perpetrating the biggest hoax ever on mankind; We just can’t let him go quietly into that good night!
And Obama sent a letter to Boehner letting him know that he is proposing several more regulations (many at the EPA) that would cost the economy an additional $1 billion per year (though I think his calculations are waaayyy off):
An earlier draft.
Al Gore’s wallet once again takes a hit from truth and logic.
I don’t think it was republicans who left the mess at Woodstock.
I think I just showed my age & became irrelevant all in one post.
bjc #69, I worked in Southern Oregon in the early 80′s, when the environmental zealots were getting real traction in that State, until I retired last year.
Over eight years (1982 to 1990) Oregon lost 80% of it’s wood products industry because of them. Did they just stop producing wood products, no, they moved to friendlier states, Canada and overseas.
Until then, Oregon was in solid financial shape. Now Oregon is between 3 and 4 billion dollars in the red with more red ink in the future.They have never recovered from that industrial loss.
And the enviromental whackos in Oregon not only have never taken any responsibility, but they continue to reign supreme in State government. They believe the State can be saved with green jobs and the more land that’s off limits to everything, the better.
That’s one of the reasons I live in AZ now. Footnote: some logging has resumed in Oregon due to Bush opening up some Federal Lands again. I don’t know if that is up or down since I left(Endangered Species Act and Wilderness Area designations are the order of the day).
Not to worry Spaceycakes, I do it all the time. Us older folks deserve some latitude, don’t we? Wellll, maybe not!
Please don’t tell me that the Sun doesn’t revolve around the Earth!
And that the Sun truly radiates HEAT which might change the actual temperature of the planet (and that of Mars)?
And that Human interference didn’t melt all of the glaciers!!??
This is WAAAAAY too much factual information that GoreBots would be unable to comprehend.
/sarc off.
NOW can we FIRE the entire EPA Department??? That would cut about $500,000,000 in government WASTE, and slash our burgeoning energy bills!!! Or our elected officials on the take from that agency as well??? After all, now Al and Goldman Sachs won’t be raking in all of that dough from the LIE of carbon credits, like how Tom Daschle got rich on six, count ‘em six boards of directors of ETHANOL companies!!! What a massive bunch of LIARS! It’s all about polititions and how graft and corruption can make them rich, WHILE or after holding office. On either side of the aisle!!!
On August 30, 2011 at 11:20 am, Mitoch said:
+1
Classic SF quote FTW!
To which Boehner should reply, if we wasn’t a teary-eyed wuss, that the USA somehow managed fairly well without overbearing federal agencies and will be considering seven such agencies to defund, beginning with the EPA, to actually reduce federal expenditures and help keep and create private sector jobs.
WHOA, Dude, sooo not only has mankind made the Earth warmer, now we have made the Sun warmer too !!!! It is even worse than we thought it was.
LOL @ squeaker1
You can put 1 million Earths into the Sun. But there is a giant star out there that you can put 1 million of our Sun(s) into.
So while our Sun is quite large compared to the earth, it is not that large of an object in the universe. There are black holes that would hold about 18 billion of our Suns.
But Al Gore and his minions believe they understand the universe and how climate works on earth. What hubris.
In 2012, the Sun and the earth will line up with the center black hole of the milky way. The Mayans believed there will be some happening in that year. Venus crossing the Sun, a Solar eclipse and the galaxy in alignment will certainly be an interesting phenomonon. I think the date was winter solstice Dec 22nd. End of the world predictions?
Or the return of the Mahdi on Dec 12, 2012 may make it moot.
#83 T-BONE
The perfect word you use: Hubris.
To think man, of such brief tenure in this world, with some effort at “scientific” measurement only a very recent thing, has any effect or even understanding of global events is the ultimate in hubris. One of my favorite examples is obvious: NASA satellites measuring whatever. I love the live photos, etc. of cloud cover, infrared, water vapor, etc.
But, to have had a shaky baseline of data only since the 70s and 80s for… say … the ozone hole is hilarious. We watch a complex process for a decade or two, measure some level of variability and make wholesale pronouncements — end of the world, skin cancer epidemics, climate change and the whole 9 yards. Heard much on this in a decade, have you? Poor Antarctic penguins die off en masse, did they? After all we had lovely movies about them and adorable cartoons followed. I guess cinema and TV saved the day. No more Ozone hole. Whew!
Hubris.
sarc/
Nah, 12 years isn’t so long ago.
t-bone & bodfish-
HUBRIS
Absolutely PERFECT!!
The hell you say… pure blasphemy!!
I don’t really see a problem with 12/12/12. That was the end of the Mayan calender. and that’s because they ran out of space on the circular stone. But I digress.
We survived 8/8/8, 9/9/9, 10/10/10 and are breathlessly awaiting some made up crisis to devastate our lives on 11/11/11! I refuse to let some ass clown try to influence my life with superstitious crap. If something dreadful DOES happen to transpire, what the hell is anyone going to do about it anyway? I’m not being a defeatist, but, if you have no control over the situation, all you can do is panic and I refuse to play along!
We narrowly averted a catastrophic economy crash with Y2K. If it hadn’t been for Superman flying around the earth counterclockwise, we would have all been doomed! Computers would have automatically reset to 1900 and ALL data input after the year 1900 would disappear into the black hole of cyberspace! Wow! We have been so lucky to survive all this. It’s a good thing we don’t still live in caves and have to huddle around a fire for warmth and safety.
to Truesoldier #68
Great idea, a capitalist moneymaker! Please let me add to your marketing plan, gratis, to have a prominent sign: “Special Prius Section.” And do not forget to have several (inexpensive, have one of your illegal immigrant employees water them often) potted small trees by the entrance. Big ferns would be good too. I’ll bet you could get special tax deals from either State or Federal Small Business Administrations.
I have no problem with looking to alternative energy solutions, but none at this time are practical and affordable. Recycling is good because I hate to see anything wasted and it keeps streets cleaner due to the bums (I mean homeless), but are we really saving the planet by recycling a can? How did mankind survive before the 70′s when food products were put in tin cans and virtually nothing was recycled? Plus there were no landfills, only dumps. Anything and everything was literally dumped right on the bare ground.