Obama’s Big Green Boondoggles; Solyndra circus! Dems’ Blame Bush/Big Oil mantras; OMB warned: Firm “not ready for prime time;” Update: Treasury IG investigates; “Everyone knew”

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 14, 2011 09:50 AM

My syndicated column today expounds on the green phony, crony capitalism that has flourished — and flopped — in the Age of Obama. The latest developments breaking in the Solyndra scandal last night? Obama’s White House tried to rush the $535 million loan review, prompting complaints from financial officials. The White House, naturally, denies any improper intervention, politicization, and string-pulling.

According to the Washington Post: “The August 2009 e-mails, released exclusively to The Washington Post, show White House officials repeatedly asking OMB reviewers when they would be able to decide on the federal loan and noting a looming press event at which they planned to announce the deal. In response, OMB officials expressed concern that they were being rushed to approve the company’s project without adequate time to assess the risk to taxpayers, according to information provided by Republican congressional investigators..’We have ended up with a situation of having to do rushed approvals on a couple of occasions (and we are worried about Solyndra at the end of the week),’ one official wrote. That Aug. 31, 2009, message, written by a senior OMB staffer and sent to Terrell P. McSweeny, Biden’s domestic policy adviser, concluded, ‘We would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence reviews.’”

The answer to the question “What did they know and when” is this: They KNEW Solyndra was a risky, lousy deal for taxpayers. They KNEW on Aug. 19, 2009 that the financial models their credit reviewers used predicted Solyndra would run out of cash in September 2011. They KNEW it would fail. But they forged ahead, took our money to prop it up, and pimped the company in front of the TV cameras, anyway.

Cue: Screw up, move up, cover up in 3, 2, 1…

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Obama’s Big Green Boondoggles
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

With the scandalous bankruptcy of Solyndra (a shady California solar power company that received $535 million in stimulus funds and is now under investigation by the FBI) hanging overhead, President Obama wisely whitewashed any mention of “green jobs” out of his latest address to Congress.

But buried in the details of his latest government jobs bill released this week — Spawn of the Spendulus, Porky’s II, Night of the Keynesian Dead — are yet more big green boondoggles that will reward cronies, waste taxpayer dollars and make no dent in the jobless rate.

After pouring half a billion bucks into Solyndra, the company filed for Chapter 11 last month and laid off 1,110 employees. Obama administration officials met with Solyndra execs at least 20 times; the green cheerleader-in-chief personally visited and promoted the company in 2009 before his administration fast-tracked approval for the loans.

Solyndra is now the third solar company to go belly-up this year. Yet the Energy Department is doubling down on failure. As the FBI and House GOP investigators launch a probe into Enron-style accounting problems with Solyndra’s books, DOE is doling out more than $850 million in new loan guarantees for another California solar firm sponsored by NextEra Energy, along with nearly $200 million more for separate solar manufacturing facilities on the West Coast.

Obama claims new “investments” in environmentally friendly school construction projects will put thousands of Americans back to work immediately. (Never mind that Big Labor-backed rules and executive orders will raise the cost of the projects, slow their implementation and freeze out the vast majority of non-union contractors.) Among the new green pork initiatives: $25 billion for green roofs, green cleaning, installation of renewable energy generation and heating systems, and “modernization, renovation, or repair activities related to energy efficiency and renewable energy.”

But how are existing green construction spending programs working in practice?

A brand-new report from Texas Watchdog, a nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative group, sheds inconvenient light on Obama’s $5 billion stimulus-funded Weatherization Assistance Program. In Texas alone, the $327 million program has spent more than $226,000 on each of the 1,041 jobs the program is claimed to have created or saved.

Intended to “green” low-income homes, at least three of the original participating organizations have been shut down due to chronic mismanagement, fraud allegations and shoddy workmanship. Baylor University economist Earl Grinols summed up: “First, it is not an appropriate government function to provide weatherization of private homes. Second, even viewed as a stimulus measure, it is not very effective as a stimulus based on cost-per-job, and third, it appears not to be well-managed.”

Nearly 31 months after Porkulus One was signed, the Texas housing agency still hasn’t spent $91.6 million in allocated weatherization/green construction funds. Millions cannot be accounted for by auditors and inspectors.

Now, multiply that by 49 other states. A review of the weatherization boondoggle last year revealed state-trained workers were flubbing insulation jobs in Indiana, according to the Associated Press. In “Alaska, Wyoming and the District of Columbia, the program (had) yet to produce a single job or retrofit one home. And in California, a state with nearly 37 million residents, the program at last count had created 84 jobs.”

The Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney, a vigilant chronicler of green subsidies, notes that time and again, it’s Obama insiders and Democratic operatives pocketing all the green while the unemployment hovers at double-digits. To wit: “Al Gore acolyte Cathy Zoi was Obama’s assistant secretary for energy efficiency and renewable energy while her husband was an executive at a company that received direct subsidies from the Obama administration and profited from the Cash-for-Caulkers bill Zoi’s division implemented.” Treasury Department Chief of Staff Mark Patterson lobbied for Goldman Sachs on ethanol subsidies while holding down his job in the administration. And last year, another Obama pet project — Illinois-based FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant — received a $1 billion stimulus earmark despite having been previously defunded over doubts about the feasibility and efficiency of the project.

An Obama green job trainee with seven certificates, Carlos Arandia, spoke for all non-crony Americans when he asked last fall: “What is the point of giving somebody the tools to do something but to have nowhere to use them?” Perhaps the White House can find a way to weatherize all the Grand Canyon-sized taxpayer sinkholes that “green job” spending has created.

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Update There’s a House hearing on Solyndra going down right now in DC.

Green Jobs Fail Theater!

Watch live on C-SPAN now.

Here’s how the NYTimes previewed the Democrat defense:

The tone is not expected to be friendly; the Republican leaders of the committee say that the Energy Department may have directed the money to a company with investors who were also donors to the Obama election campaign, and that the department may be preparing to give aid to other companies with iffy commercial prospects.

Democrats on the committee are putting forward the argument that they were misled by officials of the company, Solyndra — an argument that may be impossible for the Energy Department itself to make, since the department has been an observer on the Solyndra board since February.

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Update 10:49am: The Dems are trotting out their “Blame Bush” mantra at the House hearing — Democrat Rep. John Dingell’s leading the charge.

Philip A. Klein addressed the meme this morning:

In prepared testimony released ahead of the hearing before the House Energy and Commerce committee, the director of the Department of Energy’s loans office, Jonathan Silver, emphasizes that the program that eventually granted a $535 million loan guarantee to the troubled firm was created during the Bush administration.

Not only that, Silver says, “Solyndra submitted its initial application in 2006, and much of the extensive due diligence on the transaction was conducted between 2006 and the end of 2008.”

He says that “by the time the Obama administration took office in late January 2009, the loan programs’ staff had already established a goal of, and timeline for, issuing the company a conditional loan guarantee commitment in March 2009.” Ultimately, the Obama administration issued the loan guarantee that March, which Silver argues, was “on the exact timeline that had been developed by the Bush administration…”

But Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., chairman of the oversight subcommittee that is conducting the Solyndra investigation, said that there’s a problem with that version of events. “In reality, on January 9, 2009 — at the end of the Bush administration — the DOE Credit Committee voted against offering a conditional commitment to Solyndra, saying that the deal was premature and questioning its underlying financial support,” Stearns said in his opening statement. “Only after Obama took control, and the stimulus passed, was the Solyndra deal pushed through.”

Update 10:59am: DOE loan chief Jonathan Silver refuses to answer/name which White House officials he met with — “I can’t recall.”

Solyndra official names Carol Browner’s office. Surprise, surprise.

Democrat Rep. Markey trots out next line of White House defense: Big Oil is worse!

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House GOP asks White House OMB about these emails:

OMB says despite the e-mail’s explicit concern about the financial models used to determine the company’s credit worthiness, OMB “staff” had no qualms moving forward. Uh-huh.

Via USA Today:

Even if Solyndra’s collapse is nothing more than good intentions gone awry — a big if — it is a cautionary tale about why government should be extremely wary about betting tax dollars on specific companies. If there’s one thing the marketplace virtually always does better than government, it’s picking individual successes in an uncertain and highly competitive business. In fact, government involvement can unfairly tilt the playing field toward one company and away from competitors.
USA TODAY OPINION

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What the government can do is create an environment that makes it possible for the best companies to emerge and thrive. Government can fund basic research that is too expensive and too uncertain for struggling companies. It alone can set clear rules, provide a productive tax environment and fiercely defend American companies from unfair foreign competition. One reason for Solyndra’s demise was a huge drop in solar panel prices that might have been caused by China’s heavily subsidized solar panel manufacturers dumping below-cost panels on the world market.

You can bet you’ll hear a lot more about Solyndra as the campaign season intensifies, and rightly so. This is a stain on Obama’s stimulus program. At the same time, context is important. The Obama administration inherited the Solyndra application from the Bush Energy Department, and Solyndra is one of 42 projects in the Energy Department’s $30 billion portfolio of clean energy loan guarantees. The department says none of those other projects is in trouble; we’ll see.

Moving the nation away from its reliance on oil and coal would unquestionably have huge benefits for the environment and for national security. The most efficient way to attain that goal — raising the price of fossil fuels to reflect their real cost via a carbon tax or a cap-and-trade plan — isn’t going anywhere in the current political environment. That leaves a variety of next-best options worth pursuing, but trying to pick winners among individual start-up companies ought to be at the bottom of the list.

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Update: Via Philip Klein — “A March 2009 OMB email on Solyndra warned “this deal is NOT ready for prime time” 10 days later, loan gar was granted.”

Update: As I’ve noted before, there are Solyndras by a different name failing all over the country.

Here’s one from Arizona via the Goldwater Institute:

When state legislatures reconvene in January, a priority for many will be passing some kind of “jobs” bill. What form that might take is open to debate, but there are already lessons to be learned on what not to do.

In 2009 the Arizona legislature, like many other states, passed a bill providing “tax incentives” (AKA subsidies) for renewable-energy industries. The legislature partly responded to pressure from those who thought they’d found the next big thing in “green jobs.” It also followed on the heels of a new solar panel factory in Tucson, Arizona.

Now that solar panel factory is closing only three years into its tenure. And it’s not alone. Another plant in Massachusetts has closed. Especially notable, a company called Solyndra, with a half billion dollars in federal loan guarantees, has declared bankruptcy.

That’s not a great track record, and it proves a point: Government makes a lousy venture capitalist.

Venture capitalists lose their money sometimes, but that’s the point: it’s their money. Government has no business risking taxpayer resources or disrupting tax systems to favor some businesses over others in an effort to directly create jobs.

Unfortunately, the Arizona legislature did it again in creating the Arizona Commerce Authority, with its ability to directly subsidize companies. The legislature would have doubled down on this bad bet with SB 1041 last session but for Governor Brewer’s veto.

Update: Now, the Treasury Inspector General will investigate. It seems a bit fox-guarding-the-henhouse-ish given Treasury Department official Mark Patterson’s own green lobbying conflicts of interest, but we’ll see…

The Treasury Department’s inspector general has opened a new front in the investigation of the government loan to Solyndra, the now bankrupt company that had been touted as a model of President Obama’s ambitious green energy program, ABC News and the Center for Public Integrity/iWatch News have learned.

The new probe involves the $535 million loan, arranged by the Energy Department, but actually processed by the Federal Financing Bank, a government lending institution that falls under Treasury’s control. Already, the FBI and the Energy Department’s inspector general have executed search warrants at Solyndra’s headquarters and questioned company executives.

“We’re going to look at everything the FFB had to do with its role in this thing,” Rich Delmar, a spokesman for the Treasury Department’s inspector general, told ABC News and iWatch News.

Earlier this month, iWatch News and ABC News disclosed that Solyndra received a rock-bottom interest rate of 1 to 2 percent — lower than those affixed to other Energy Department green energy projects. The low rate was set even as an outside agency, Fitch Rating, scored Solyndra as a B+ — “speculative” — investment. Energy Department officials said the bank set the rate, based on formulas including the payout length, and that Solyndra did not receive special treatment.

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Update: Solyndra employee tells Mark Levin –

While we were out there, while we were building it – cause it is a half a billion dollar plant – everyone already knew that China had developed a more inexpensive way to manufacture these solar panels. Everyone knew that the plant wouldn’t work. But they still did it. They still built it.

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  1. #101
    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:38 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm, happyscrapper said:

    More than that – a 2/3rds majority in the Senate. Easier to just vote him out of office once and for all and let the devil sort it out.

  2. #102
    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Easier to just vote him out of office once and for all and let the devil sort it out.

    On the face of it, it would seem easier. Barky and his cronies may make it not so. We shall see come this time next year.

  3. #103
    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm, doriangrey said:

    With his every political move an attempt to fully and completely implement the notorious and treasonous Cloward-Pivens strategy this revelation can hardly be said to be shocking. His administration has been nothing but scandals of the high crimes and misdemeanors variety since the day he took office.

    From what is now clearly being shown to be little more than a money laundering scheme to finance Solyndra to the “Fast and Furious” attempt to subvert and nullify the Second amendment.

    The Marxists at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave disrespects the US Flag.

  4. #104
    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:54 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm, happyscrapper said:
    What will it take to impeach him?
    A republican Senate.

    No, we have a Republican House that can impeach him. We need a Republican Senate to remove him after he is impeached.

  5. #105
    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:54 pm, Truesoldier said:

    There’s no more chance of getting 2/3 of the Senate to vote for conviction than there was with Clinton, although there’s a lot more grounds to do so. We’ll only get rid of him via the next election. We can’t afford to screw it up.

  6. #106
    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm, txvet2 said:
    There’s no more chance of getting 2/3 of the Senate to vote for conviction than there was with Clinton, although there’s a lot more grounds to do so. We’ll only get rid of him via the next election. We can’t afford to screw it up.

    Exaclty my point. If the House were to impeach him it would be moot as the Senate would never vote for removal, especially a Democrat controled Senate. The best we can do is enusure he is a one term President.

  7. #107
    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Update 10:49am: The Dems are trotting out their “Blame Bush” mantra at the House hearing — Democrat Rep. John Dingell’s leading the charge.

    “Blame Bush” … oh, that’s original, Demonrats!

    The Epicenter of excuses…

    Note “Bush’s fault” at the 6 o’clock position…

  8. #108
    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:34 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:28 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
    Update 10:49am: The Dems are trotting out their “Blame Bush” mantra at the House hearing — Democrat Rep. John Dingell’s leading the charge.
    “Blame Bush” … oh, that’s original, Demonrats!

    Sounds to me like this is spiraling out of control if they are going to their fall back postion this quickly.

  9. #109
    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    No, we have a Republican House that can impeach him. We need a Republican Senate to remove him after he is impeached.

    If McConnel remains as the GOP Leader in the Senate, you will not be able to impeach Obama for anything up to and including setting up concentration camps and gassing people. He’s a wimp.

    Michele Bachmann for House Speaker and Marco Rubio for Senate Majority Leader, assuming Bachmann’s Presidential bid falls short.

  10. #110
    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:02 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Winning the Senate and leaving McConnell in the Majority Leader position is one of the biggest mistakes the Republicans could make – and they will. Just like the Texas Republicans screwed up when they left Joe Strauss in control after the last election.

  11. #111
    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:07 pm, davebrown said:

    I’m getting tired of blogging opinions about what I think is an incompetent Presidency. I live in “flyover country” even in my own state. I don’t think it will do much good in the short-term, but I am writing my state’s two U.S. Senators, both Democrats, to say, “Don’t go down this road and back another Obama bill.” Hopefully, we’ve got a House with a backbone.

  12. #112
    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:11 pm, davebrown said:

    As if there was a bill….

  13. #113
    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm, swede said:

    txvet2 said:

    Winning the Senate and leaving McConnell in the Majority Leader position is one of the biggest mistakes the Republicans could make – and they will.

    Latest Intrade market has 67% probability the GOP will control the Senate – 25% for Dems. Unfortunately, you are correct that rather than move forward the GOP will flounder in RINOism. If McConnell had a shred of dignity and integrity he’d step aside. He doesn’t and he won’t.

    Re your impeachment discussion, there is less chance of impeaching Zero than Billy Jeff. They had BJ on at least three proven felony perjury counts and multiple instances of malfeasance and conduct that should have sent him sliding back to Little Rock. He skated on a party line vote, as would Bupkus Boy.

    FWIW I am absolutely AGAINST impeachment for that reason – and more importantly it would tie up the government for no particularly good reason. Not to mention the backlash. The LAST thing we need to do is rally the Librocritters by making Zero a martyr.

    Vote him out. Make it happen.

  14. #114
    On September 14th, 2011 at 5:04 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm, swede said:

    Vote him out. Make it happen.

    To which end, we can fight like dogs and cats over which Republican should win the nomination – but we’d damned well better unite behind the one who does.

  15. #115
    On September 14th, 2011 at 5:19 pm, rightisright said:

    To be a liberal one has to either stupid or a Marxist, wait, is the being redundant?

  16. #116
    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:01 pm, SgtSchultz said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:20 am, Inkberrow said:

    Shades of Franklin Raines and Fannie and Freddie. Stakeholders in feel-good progressive boondoggles are permitted to cash in up front like big-ticket earners while expecting the federal government to fast-track them through obstacles and absorb and contextualize their losses, all in the “public” interest. This “Too Good To Fail” attitude translates into workplace indolence on the floor and looting in the boardroom.

    Goodness me! Could this be Industrial Disease?

    I don’t know why, but this whole Solyindra mess brings to mind this old Dire Straits classic.

  17. #117
    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm, swede said:

    txvet2 said:

    To which end, we can fight like dogs and cats over which Republican should win the nomination – but we’d damned well better unite behind the one who does.

    Whatsamatter, you don’t buy the Silly Philly third (2nd or whatever) party solution? Wait, there already is a third party. Libertarian. Oh and the Conservative Party, or the Constitution Party. Or how ’bout that new one – my personal fave – The Rent is Too Damn High Party.

    If this election is as close as I think it will be, and 4 or 5% of conservatives buy into Silly Philly’s shtick, we could be stuck with Zero again. That must not happen. You are absolutely right, txv.

  18. #118
    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:12 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Dear Lord,

    Why did you make conservatives so awful?

    Amen,
    ILMC

    http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2011/09/america%E2%80%99s-infrastructure-now-ranks-16th-world

  19. #119
    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:42 pm, CO_Engineer said:

    Iluvmystinkyfinger said:
    Dear Lord,
    Why did you make conservatives so awful?
    Amen,
    ILMC

    Careful there: Invoking the Lord, even though you do not believe in him, will get you labeled a Bible thumping knuckle dragging neanderthal by the tolerant members on the left! But I at least salute your deference to a higher power than your battery powered “personal appliance”.

    But on a serious note- The left has controlled congress for most of the last 50 years, and they raided the highway fund to finance the pet projects of powerful politicians (cough cough Robert Byrd), and even at that routed the money to powerful unions to do the work. How is it that conservatives are responsible for the state of our infrastructure? Obama even lied to us to get almost a trillion dollars for infrastructure, and then laughed that the “shovel ready jobs” weren’t, so now we need to spend MORE to do what he said the original stimuls was going to do. I don’t trust them- the new $450M+ will disappear down the same rathole of unions and Obama buddies as the last trillion.

  20. #120
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:02 pm, rambler said:

    Calling this an “investment” is such a joke. It was a direct handout of cash. I’m sure the WH didn’t believe that this loan was going to be paid back or that this company was going to last very long. The surprise was that it didn’t last long enough to get passed his reelection.

  21. #121
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Once again, noseholders have hijacked the thread. Voting for the Republican crook is somehow better than voting for the Democrat crook to you idiots. Maybe someday you will ask the question: “Why is it that no matter who we elect we end up with bigger and bigger government?”

    Duh!!! We are stuck with this one-party system because too many people automatically vote Democrat or Republican. If you make politicians work for your vote, noseholders treat that like you are voting for the “other” party.

    I’ve noticed that when a commenter posts an opinion decrying “sheeple” and “the stupid American voter”, it is a noseholder. And they are right. These people don’t own mirrors in their little echo chamber worlds which are hermetically sealed from facts, logic and introducing a point of view that differs from their own. Name calling swarms trumps debate. What morons.

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

  22. #122
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:13 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm, swede said:

    The odd thing… well, one of the odd things…. about Phil is that he’s pushing a third party and he doesn’t even have a candidate (apparently) in mind. Just any old name as long as it isn’t a Republican, I guess. I get the feeling he’s hoping that Ron Paul drops out of the Republican race and runs as a Libertarian (He might, because he isn’t running for Congress this time.), but from his many pro-Trump rants, he may be pinning his hope on The Donald. Anything to re-elect Obama while maintaining “plausible deniability”.

  23. #123
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:14 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    Go ahead Phil it is a free country have at it and get as many people as you can to vote independent (which will never be enough to eek out a win). Just don’t come complaining to us when Obama is re-elected ok. In the meantime I am going to do my best to hold my elected rep’s feet to the fire as well as keep questioning all the candidates in the hopes that we can find one that is more Conservatvie than RINO.

  24. #124
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:18 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Meanwhile, here is more proof that the governement needs to get out of the business of grants to businesses:

    Former CFO of ‘green’ group pleads guilty to fraud

    This guy started skimming funds from DOE grants under the Bush admin and continued to do so right into the Obama admin.

  25. #125
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:22 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    Surprise, surprise. So, neither Bachmann, Cain, nor Palin are conservative enough for you? In fact, nobody is conservative enough for you, are they?

    These people don’t own mirrors in their little echo chamber worlds which are hermetically sealed from facts, logic and introducing a point of view that differs from their own. Name calling swarms trumps debate. What morons.

    You can’t even write a post without making a caricature of yourself.

  26. #126
    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 5:04 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm, swede said:

    Vote him out. Make it happen.

    To which end, we can fight like dogs and cats over which Republican should win the nomination – but we’d damned well better unite behind the one who does.

    Absolutely! McCain/Palin 2012!
    Dole/Whoever 2012!
    Schwartzenegger / Graham 2012!
    Hillary / Pelosi 2012!

    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election. Because I have had a bellyful of decade after decade of settling for lousy, no-good Republican candidates whose only virtue is “Well… they’re not Democrats!”

    We were meant to have Bush in 1980. Thank God for Ronald Reagan. But, Bush Sr and Jr are both progressive republicans, with the same vices and failings as Obama, just not as extreme.

    I’m fed up with voting for Marxist or leftist! I want to vote for a blankety-blank CONSERVATIVE.

    Right now, that means Bachmann, Cain, or possibly… maybe… Santorum (maybe).

    I don’t get them… screw you Republican party, and the left-leaning horse you road in on.

  27. #127
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:07 pm, Bruce said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    And taking down this admin will almost certainly lead to civil unrest.

    Really? I say “Bring It, homies!”

  28. #128
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:15 pm, Bruce said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 2:54 pm, Truesoldier said:

    There’s no more chance of getting 2/3 of the Senate to vote for conviction than there was with Clinton, although there’s a lot more grounds to do so. We’ll only get rid of him via the next election. We can’t afford to screw it up.

    Which means we have to do what the libs do and rally behind WHOEVER is the Rep nominee and vote that way.

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Once again, noseholders have hijacked the thread. Voting for the Republican crook is somehow better than voting for the Democrat crook to you idiots. Maybe someday you will ask the question: “Why is it that no matter who we elect we end up with bigger and bigger government?”

    Duh!!! We are stuck with this one-party system because too many people automatically vote Democrat or Republican. If you make politicians work for your vote, noseholders treat that like you are voting for the “other” party.

    I’ve noticed that when a commenter posts an opinion decrying “sheeple” and “the stupid American voter”, it is a noseholder. And they are right. These people don’t own mirrors in their little echo chamber worlds which are hermetically sealed from facts, logic and introducing a point of view that differs from their own. Name calling swarms trumps debate. What morons.

    You seem to love calling other folks on here morons, when the real moron here is in fact … YOU.

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    That’s right, MORON – guarantee us another 4 years of Nobama – which this republic cannot possibly survive. You’re an idiot.

  29. #129
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:35 pm, bjc said:

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    *What about the primaries Phil?; That is where you should vote your conscience; If the field is unchanged when primary time comes to Tennessee, I plan to vote for Cain or Bachmann, the two most reliable conservatives in the race; That’s the least we should all do; But when it comes to November, nothing is more important than removing the enemy within the White House, and I will vote to do just that.

  30. #130
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:40 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Absolutely! McCain/Palin 2012!
    Dole/Whoever 2012!
    Schwartzenegger / Graham 2012!
    Hillary / Pelosi 2012!

    Strawman argument. None of those combinations will be on the 2012 ballot – unless, of course, Hillary runs against Obama, in which case they’d be the Democrat ticket and not many people here would be supporting them (except for those voting third party, of course).

  31. #131
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:46 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    You know, Hiraghm, if McCain/Palin had won the last election, we wouldn’t be dealing with Fast and Furious, which means that quite a few people wouldn’t have been killed with American guns (although they may well have been killed with Russian guns – we’re not the only source for weapons in Mexico). We wouldn’t be trying to figure out some way to repeal Obamacare before it destroys what’s left of the medical system. We also more than likely wouldn’t be dealing with 1.5 trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. We wouldn’t be dealing with the Holder Justice Department. There was plenty not to like about McCain, but to claim that he was as bad or worse than Obama is disingenuous.

  32. #132
    On September 14th, 2011 at 9:55 pm, txvet2 said:

    These people don’t own mirrors in their little echo chamber worlds which are hermetically sealed from facts, logic and introducing a point of view that differs from their own.

    I can’t help it. This cracks me up every time I read it. If there was ever a perfect capsule description of Phil, this is it. I tried literally for weeks and months to get Phil to engage in any kind of discussion of his views. His response without exception was a tirade of name calling and insults. When I finally got tired of it and responded in kind, he started whining about “personal attacks” and has been whining ever since, even as he continues to attack anyone who disagrees with him.

  33. #133
    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:00 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    Yeah, Pasadena (broken record) Phil…we heard you the first thousand times you said it. It was crap the first time and it is still crap. Vote third party, re-elect Obama. I am so sick of hearing you tell us how you are willing to THROW AWAY your vote! Please just STFU. Thanks.

  34. #134
    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:21 pm, Blackstone said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election.

    Now that’s just bizarro. Third party I can see. Write-in I can see. Even staying home I can kind of see. But voting Dem?! All that does is help them marginalize us further, with the gleeful help of the media.

    Maybe you’re figuring it would start a revolution, but in order to have any kind of remotely successful revolution, you have to be able to spread your message. You can’t do that when you’ve been completely sidelined in the public mind.

  35. #135
    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:38 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:21 pm, Blackstone said:

    He’s a Phildo bookend, not really bizarro if you consider that. ;)

  36. #136
    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:53 pm, mondamay said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 10:21 pm,
    Blackstone said: Now that’s just bizarro.

    I agree, unfortunately, there is plenty of bizarro on both sides of this argument.

    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:02 pm, txvet2 said: Winning the Senate and leaving McConnell in the Majority Leader position is one of the biggest mistakes the Republicans could make – and they will.

    On September 14th, 2011 at 5:04 pm, txvet2 said:

    [W]e can fight like dogs and cats over which Republican should win the nomination – but we’d damned well better unite behind the one who does.

    On September 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm, swede said: Unfortunately, you are correct that rather than move forward the GOP will flounder in RINOism. If McConnell had a shred of dignity and integrity he’d step aside. He doesn’t and he won’t.

    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm, swede said: Whatsamatter, you don’t buy the Silly Philly third (2nd or whatever) party solution?

    If there are untrustworthy Republicans in positions of high authority (and there are), what kind of lunatic solution is voting Republican under any circumstances?

    Truth to tell, these kinds of responses had a lot more to do with swaying me away from “automatic Republican” than anything Phil has ever said. This is Obama’s spend-your-way-out-of-debt and increase-jobs-by-regulating-more style “logic”.

    I get that many (and perhaps even most) of the posters here see this as “either vote for a Republican or get Obama again”, but that is a limitation they are placing upon themselves.

    I don’t know who my options will be come election day, November 2012. There may not be anyone left that I want to support, even among the lesser parties. I may even chicken out and vote Republican, but I sure won’t be handing it over before then, and attacking those who won’t do the same.

    It’s time the Republican party started trying to earn our votes, rather than just expecting them. If they refuse to do that, they need to go away.

  37. #137
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:03 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election.

    Do you also intend to:

    1. Hold your breath until you turn blue
    2. Lock yourself in your bedroom
    3. Take your ball and go home
    4. Tell mommy on those who did not vote your way
    5. Volunteer to serve on an Obamacare death panel
    6. Monitor serving portions in restaraunts for Micehelel O
    7. Inspect foreign mail to intercept incandescent light bulbs
    8. Adopt ILMC
    9. Start an illegal alien support group

  38. #138
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:08 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:03 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election.

    Do you also intend to:

    1. Hold your breath until you turn blue
    2. Lock yourself in your bedroom
    3. Take your ball and go home
    4. Tell mommy on those who did not vote your way
    5. Volunteer to serve on an Obamacare death panel
    6. Monitor serving portions in restaraunts for Micehelel O
    7. Inspect foreign mail to intercept incandescent light bulbs
    8. Adopt ILMC
    9. Start an illegal alien support group

    I try to stay away from FIFY’s, so if I may, add to #8… and reset ILMC’s train in the tunnel. (Rogue Cheddar classic)

  39. #139
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:22 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Once again, noseholders have hijacked the thread. Voting for the Republican crook is somehow better than voting for the Democrat crook to you idiots. Maybe someday you will ask the question: “Why is it that no matter who we elect we end up with bigger and bigger government?”

    Duh!!! We are stuck with this one-party system because too many people automatically vote Democrat or Republican. If you make politicians work for your vote, noseholders treat that like you are voting for the “other” party.

    I’ve noticed that when a commenter posts an opinion decrying “sheeple” and “the stupid American voter”, it is a noseholder. And they are right. These people don’t own mirrors in their little echo chamber worlds which are hermetically sealed from facts, logic and introducing a point of view that differs from their own. Name calling swarms trumps debate. What morons.

    I can’t wait to vote independent again next year.

    The grifter that keeps on giving !

  40. #140
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:31 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I try to stay away from FIFY’s, so if I may, add to #8… and reset ILMC’s train in the tunnel. (Rogue Cheddar classic)

    Sweeeeeeet!!!

  41. #141
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Phil, try getting California cleaned up and then get back to us.

  42. #142
    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:41 pm, sonerai32645 said:

    Is Phil just trying to get everyone fired up? To save America, we must elect true conservatives to the House and Senate, at least. I do not remember ever voting for a D and many times third party when I was sure my vote for the R would not matter. A true conservative Pres would be nice (Cain)

  43. #143
    On September 15th, 2011 at 1:03 am, swede said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    Phil

    Still confused – why are notable noseholders Michelle and Doug not RINOS?
    Who did you vote for?
    You didn’t even vote, did you – you hypocritical punk.
    Put a sock in it RINO.

    mondamay said:

    If there are untrustworthy Republicans in positions of high authority (and there are), what kind of lunatic solution is voting Republican under any circumstances?

    Truth to tell, these kinds of responses had a lot more to do with swaying me away from “automatic Republican” than anything Phil has ever said.

    One last time. You don’t vote for a freakin party. You work for and/or support conservative candidates IN THE PRIMARIES when it makes a difference. Phil has done NOTHING for conservatives other than banal and boistrous blog bloviation. That is all.

    Ilovemyabrasivesuppositories said:

    It’s not just your immagination. People loathe you. It’s because your junk is too small.

    Nite all.

  44. #144
    On September 15th, 2011 at 1:15 am, OK_Loyalist said:

    Phil,

    How’s that HAHAHAHAHA you directed at me working out ?

  45. #145
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:09 am, Hiraghm said:

    On September 15th, 2011 at 1:03 am, swede said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    Phil

    Still confused – why are notable noseholders Michelle and Doug not RINOS?

    Ms Malkin is not a noseholder.
    She may not vote 3rd party, but that doesn’t mean she’s going to hold her nose and vote for another McCain.

  46. #146
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:11 am, Hiraghm said:

    Solargate Unraveled

    The emails show these statements to be false and that the White House knew Solyndra, whose major investor was Tulsa billionaire and Obama fundraiser George Kaiser, was at risk of going under.

    This is why I call Tulsa the liberal part of the State.

  47. #147
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:17 am, Hiraghm said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 11:03 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election.

    Do you also intend to:

    1. Hold your breath until you turn blue
    2. Lock yourself in your bedroom
    3. Take your ball and go home
    4. Tell mommy on those who did not vote your way
    5. Volunteer to serve on an Obamacare death panel
    6. Monitor serving portions in restaraunts for Micehelel O
    7. Inspect foreign mail to intercept incandescent light bulbs
    8. Adopt ILMC
    9. Start an illegal alien support group

    1) No
    2) No
    3) What ball?
    4) What would be the point?
    5) Possibly… to save lives
    6) Possibly… to sabotage her efforts
    7) Good idea.
    8.) You seem more in need of adoption, with this childish list.
    9) Possibly. Better a quick death for the republic than a slow one.

    A Russian, an Englishman, and a Frenchmen were asked what they’d do if they knew they only had one day left to live.

    The Englishman said he’d take a long walk on the moors with his favorite dog.

    The Frenchman said he’d share a bottle of wine with his wife as they made love one last time.

    The Russian said he’d burn his neighbor’s house down.

    I favor the Russian.

  48. #148
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:25 am, OK_Loyalist said:

    Smile like doughnut

  49. #149
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:31 am, Hiraghm said:

    Either we win back the republic this time, or we make things so bad for the Republicans that there’s no point for them to continue going-along to get-along with the left.

    Either we cure the republic, or we let it experience the full horror of a communist state, and thereby foment revolution.

    …all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed…” – Declaration of Independence

    So, if we cannot cure the nation now, the only solution left is to allow the evils to become insufferable. Thereafter we can be more assured of curing the republic.

  50. #150
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:34 am, OK_Loyalist said:

    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:31 am, Hiraghm said:

    I’ll suck Phil

  51. #151
    On September 15th, 2011 at 3:12 am, vatodio said:

    Didn’t Pelosi drain the swamp?

  52. #152
    On September 15th, 2011 at 9:33 am, thechicagoway said:

    Half a billion for a photo op… The government overpays for everything, using OUR money….

  53. #153
    On September 15th, 2011 at 9:38 am, John Deaux said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 7:34 pm, Hiraghm said:
    Basically, if my preferred candidate doesn’t win the primary, I’m voting for Obama (or Hillary) in the general election.

    Phil, this is the type of person taking your side. You may want to rethink.

  54. #154
    On September 15th, 2011 at 9:50 am, PetefromNJ said:

    On September 14th, 2011 at 6:12 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Why did you make conservatives so awful?

    KosBot,

    Why did you people steal the first stimulus money and donate it to liberal Dummycrat campaigns instead of spending it on president Zero’s “shovel-ready jobs”? Oh, that’s right, you people are incapable of keeping promises. When you’re not being bigots, you’re stealing from people who actually, you know, *work* for a living.

    Get lost, Mr. Factually-Incorrect-Every-Single-Thing-You-Ever-Post.

  55. #155
    On September 15th, 2011 at 9:57 am, GraniteMan said:

    They KNEW Solyndra was a risky, lousy deal for taxpayers.

    One way or another Dems want to cash in on energy money. Cap & Trade for oil, “Green Jobs” (green as in money)for renewables. Then cover up the graft with incompetence for an excuse. Their heart is in the right place but it just slipped by and also we inherited it from Bush. Beginning to hate that word inheritance. Just look at what the next POTUS inherits.

  56. #156
    On September 15th, 2011 at 10:08 am, stuckinIL4now said:

    In Chicago this has been labeled greenscam and word today is that former Obungler chief of staff and current Chicago Mayor Rahmbo is scheduled to testify before the committee.

    Rahmbo has recently wielded another contemptuous way to handle pesky reporters who rephrase a question when he didn’t answer it the first time: he brushes them off like fleas flippantly telling them they got their answer and he goes on to the next question. Gee, I wonder if he’ll be flipping off the House Energy Committee questioners when they press him for honest complete “answers” while he’s under oath

  57. #157
    On September 15th, 2011 at 10:18 am, vickisoup said:

    On Mark Levin last night it was posited that this is a fake investigation so they can “lose” critical evidence and this will never go anywhere. It’s the Chicago way.

  58. #158
    On September 15th, 2011 at 10:20 am, vickisoup said:

    On Mark Levin last night it was posited that this is a fake investigation so they can “lose” critical evidence and this will never go anywhere. It’s the Chicago way.

  59. #159
    On September 15th, 2011 at 10:22 am, Flyoverman said:

    Higrahm the point of my sarcastic list was to make light of a decision you have made to vote for Obama that contains not one shred of logic.

    It is the only course of action available to you that is the equivalent of pouring gasoline on yourself and striking a match.

    Frankly it is also an act of selfishness.

    Bluntly, I may not vote for the GOP nominee, if it is Romney or Perry. However, voting for Obama is not an act of conscience. I cannot in good conscience vote for a Marxist. I canot in good conscience subject my friends and family to this Marxist.

    Your choice of Obama is frankly indefensible.

    If your choice is not nominated, wrtie them in. I did that the last election for Governor of Iowa. The Dem was a disaster and the GOP nominee is a retread RINO. I wrote in the conservative who should have been nominated.

    I made my point and did what my conscience demanded. I recommend you do the same when the time comes.

  60. #160
    On September 15th, 2011 at 11:53 am, jdtruly said:

    Is it just me, or does anyone else smell a rat? The Feds have been too ready to jump in with raids and investigations. Maybe I’m cynical, but maybe we all have reason to be. Are they just jumping in to obfuscate and slow any real objective investigation until after election day? Remember, Nixon was reelected after the watergate affair because they covered up and hid the facts.

  61. #161
    On September 15th, 2011 at 12:11 pm, Blackstone said:

    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:17 am, Hiraghm said:

    A Russian, an Englishman, and a Frenchmen were asked what they’d do if they knew they only had one day left to live.

    The Englishman said he’d take a long walk on the moors with his favorite dog.

    The Frenchman said he’d share a bottle of wine with his wife as they made love one last time.

    The Russian said he’d burn his neighbor’s house down.

    I favor the Russian.

    So…if we follow your approach, we’ll wind up like Russia. Personally, I’d rather follow the approach that, historically, has made us America.

    (hope you don’t live next to any Russians, btw)

  62. #162
    On September 15th, 2011 at 12:16 pm, Blackstone said:

    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:17 am, Hiraghm said:

    A Russian, an Englishman, and a Frenchmen were asked what they’d do if they knew they only had one day left to live.

    The Englishman said he’d take a long walk on the moors with his favorite dog.

    The Frenchman said he’d share a bottle of wine with his wife as they made love one last time.

    The Russian said he’d burn his neighbor’s house down.

    I favor the Russian.

    So…if we follow your approach, we’ll wind up like Russia. Personally, I’d rather follow the approach that, historically, has made us America.

    (hope you don’t live next to any Russians, btw)

  63. #163
    On September 15th, 2011 at 2:31 pm, 1ConcernedMom said:

    Government has no business risking taxpayer resources or disrupting tax systems to favor some businesses over others in an effort to directly create jobs get campaign contributions.

    Fixed it, as it seemed more appropriate.

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