Government Loans to Nowhere

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 23, 2011 11:04 AM


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Well, another House hearing on Solyndra came and went this morning. In another Great Moment Of Transparency in the Age of Obama, the Solyndra execs took the Fifth as promised. The Democrats’ erstwhile chief inquisitor and witch hunter of Capitol Hill, Henry Waxman, demonstrated his trademark chutzpah by complaining that the GOP was “badgering witnesses” by having them invoke the 5th.

The NYTimes has a piece underscoring how Solyndra photo-ops, not due diligence, took precedence at the White House. Doug Powers has more. Be sure to check out the Solyndra Funny Money flow chart from Reuters. And here are Team Obama members singing from the don’t-know-nuttin’ hymn book.

My column today looks at the new government loans to nowhere packed into Obama’s jobs-for-cronies bill. Enough already.

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Government Loans to Nowhere
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

President Obama still hasn’t learned the classic First Rule of Holes: When you’re in one, stop digging. Up to his earlobes in failed stimulus grants and tainted federal loan guarantees, the shoveler in chief tunneled forward this week on his latest Government Loans to Nowhere bill. His willful ignorance is America’s abyss.

Little noticed in the White House jobs-for-cronies proposal is a provision creating yet another corruption-friendly “government corporation” that would dole out public infrastructure loans and loan guarantees.

Because, you know, the government-chartered, political hack-stacked Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac “public-private partnerships” — which have incurred an estimated $400 billion in losses while enriching bipartisan Beltway operatives — worked out so well for American taxpayers.

The new monstrosity, dubbed the “American Infrastructure Financing Authority” (AIFA), would “provide direct loans and loan guarantees to facilitate investment in economically viable infrastructure projects of regional or national significance,” according to the White House plan.

President Obama would have the power to appoint AIFA’s chief executive officer and a seven-member board of directors. No doubt the nominees would include the likes of AFL-CIO Chief Richard Trumka on the left and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce on the right — strange Obama bedfellows who have formed a Big Labor-Big Business-Big Government alliance supporting Obama’s infrastructure slush fund.

In addition, a new bureaucracy to support AIFA would be created, including a “Chief Lending Officer” in charge of “all functions of AIFA relating to the development of project pipeline, financial structuring of projects, selection of infrastructure projects”; the “creation and management of a Center for Excellence to provide technical assistance to public sector borrowers in the development and financing of infrastructure projects”; and creation and funding of “an Office of Rural Assistance to provide technical assistance in the development and financing of rural infrastructure projects.”

In its first two years, AIFA would rake in $10 billion in congressional appropriations; $20 billion over the next seven years; and $50 billion per fiscal year after that. How would Obama ensure the loan review process is protected from special interest favor-trading and White House meddling? If the ongoing, half-billion-dollar stimulus-funded Solyndra solar company loan debacle is any indication, the answer is: not very well.

And consider Obama’s naked partisan stunt on Thursday at the Brent Spence Bridge connecting GOP House Speaker John Boehner’s home state of Ohio and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state of Kentucky. “There’s no reason for Republicans in Congress to stand in the way of more construction projects. There’s no reason to stand in the way of more jobs,” he railed. “Mr. Boehner, Mr. McConnell, help us rebuild this bridge. Help us rebuild America. Help us put this country back to work. Pass this jobs bill right away!”

While he has high-mindedly called on “Washington” (as if he isn’t at the center of it) to put country over politics, he continues to use tax dollars to travel the country for campaign events assailing Republicans in front of decrepit bridges that wouldn’t see a dime of his “immediate” jobs bill money for years. If ever.

The point was made not by evil GOP obstructionists, but by the local Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper, which pointed out that the Brent Spence Bridge is not named in Obama’s jobs bill, has no guarantee of funding in the jobs bill, and “is still in the preliminary engineering and environmental clearance phase. In a best case scenario, the earliest that workers would be hired would be in 2013, but more likely 2015.”

It gets worse. Obama’s infrastructure loan corps wouldn’t just oversee bridge loans to nowhere. The AIFA board would get to dispense billions and score political points for their favorite photo-op-ready roads, mass transit, inland waterways, commercial ports, airports, air traffic control systems, passenger rail, high-speed rail, freight rail, wastewater treatment facilities, storm water management systems, dams, solid-waste disposal facilities, drinking water treatment facilities, levees, power transmission and distribution, storage, and energy-efficiency enhancements for buildings.

As I reported in my Tuesday column, a separate $6 billion “private nonprofit corporation” would be created by the Obama jobs plan to oversee the “Public Safety Broadband Corporation.” The panel would consist of 11 board members and four Obama administration officials. It, too, would be tasked with choosing winners and losers. Instead of local and state governments overseeing construction, this new federally created investing entity would “hold the single public safety wireless license granted under section 281 and take all actions necessary to ensure the building, deployment, and operation of a secure and resilient nationwide public safety interoperable broadband network.”

Given last week’s bombshell revelations of White House pressure on military and government officials to promote the president’s old broadband cronies at shady LightSquared Inc., the idea of empowering a new Obama bureaucracy to dole out more broadband contracts in the name of “public safety” is unsettling at best. Deeper and deeper we go.

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  1. #1
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Government Loans to Nowhere

    Pretty much states the case for just about all government loans of the past several years, if not decades.

  2. #2
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 am, RedDog said:

    Keep in mind Waxman et al put Randy Cunningham in jail for a measly $2 mill. Chutzpah does not begin to describe the duplicitous behavior and hypocrisy of Waxman. It’s all the more galling given the over-the-top egregious criminal activity of his Party and the Obama regime in particular.

  3. #3
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am, fuseman said:

    Henry Waxman, demonstrated his trademark chutzpah by complaining that the GOP was “badgering witnesses”

    the only method nostrils knows.

  4. #4
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 am, verogolfer said:

    Excellent column, although it may drive Alex Baldwin around the bend. This administration is trying to be the most corrupt in the nation’s history. And will probably succeed.

  5. #5
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am, RedDog said:

    The new monstrosity, dubbed the “American Infrastructure Financing Authority” (AIFA), would “provide direct loans and loan guarantees to facilitate investment in economically viable infrastructure projects of regional or national significance,” according to the White House plan.

    This is precisely what the US government should NOT be doing. The Feds f*ck up everything they put their hands to, and its proclaimed vision and objectives don’t even pass the common sense test. Their Constitutional role is to support free market commerce, nothing more and nothing less. But the “commerce clause” apparently means everything but that to Democrats. It means turning the entire public treasury into its own private slush fund.

    “No size restrictions and screw the limit.”

  6. #6
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am, hawkeye54 said:

    although it may drive Alex Baldwin around the bend.

    From what I’ve seen of him, he’s already been arount the bend…..many times over.

  7. #7
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:40 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, so has anyone subtracted the Solyndra jobs from the admin’s tally sheet?

  8. #8
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am, RedDog said:

    There is a serious remake due for our Republic if we cannot put a significant number of the worst of these bad actors behind bars. How much more do they have to do? Rape every man and woman in the state of Texas and Georgia? Sell aborted fetus livers with fava bean spice packs in Manhattan organic markets? What then? Truly, this is beyond nuts.

  9. #9
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Their Constitutional role is to support free market commerce, nothing more and nothing less.

    As long as no one forcefully instructs them any different, those in the fed decide for themselves whatever role they want play, anywhere and any time.

  10. #10
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah How soon before these two golden parachute into Jeffery Immelt’s GE to keep their mouth’s shut?

  11. #11
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am, rightasrain said:

    President Obama would have the power to appoint AIFA’s chief executive officer and a seven-member board of directors. No doubt the nominees would include the likes of AFL-CIO Chief Richard Trumka on the left and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce on the right

    What on EARTH could possibly go wrong if you’ve got the pResident appointing and overseeing the board of directors and Trumka really running the show??

  12. #12
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    This is picking winners and losers personified…look at the disasters Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae have become. Another horrendous and expensive agency for granting favors, collecting campaign money, and funneling cash to “their” favorites. Mainstream Americans know nothing about this unless they read Ms. Malkin’s columns. This is ANOTHER huge reason to get obeyme and the dems out of office.

  13. #13
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm, letget said:

    It is not just these companies that go under that gets taxpayers money, it is dead people also! It just boggles my mind how inept and corrupt our whole government is!

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BENEFITS_TO_DEAD_PEOPLE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-23-11-58-21
    L

  14. #14
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:27 pm, rightisright said:

    Does anyone wonder why congress is held is such hellish terms and low ratings by the majority of Americans. With that low rating looks like even the left doesn’t agree with them…excluding the kool aid drinkers of course.

    If and when congress changes hands in 2013 I want those who broke the law held responsible and wearing orange.

  15. #15
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Next, call the Director of the FBI and ask, who ordered the FBI raid on Solyndra, what were they looking for, and for what purpose.

    Where physically is the information seized and provde an itemized list of what it is.

    I have every confidence that raid was meant to locate, seize, and bury any information or evidence that would be embarassing or incriminating to Obama and his henchmen.

  16. #16
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm, maddmatt3131 said:

    I was going to try and be funny and say we have a President to nowhere but in reality he is taking us somewhere, straight down.

  17. #17
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm, J S Ragman said:

    The new monstrosity, dubbed the “American Infrastructure Financing Authority” (AIFA), would “provide direct loans and loan guarantees to facilitate investment in economically viable infrastructure projects of regional or national significance,”

    Look, the Dept. of Transportation spends about $42 billion a year on infrastructure projects nationwide. Why don’t we just drop the pretense of this new entity giving “loans” or “loan guarantees”, and just let DOT dole the money out to union contractors?
    Oh yeah, there must be a couple million new jobs “saved or created” in there somewhere (the majority of them as government employees).

  18. #18
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 pm, DesertLover said:

    I can’t speak for everyone but the only “infrastructure / shovel-ready” project I want to see is “Build the Fence” …

  19. #19
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    President Obama still hasn’t learned the classic First Rule of Holes: When you’re in one, stop digging.

    To him it’s not a hole. Fixing the economy is not his goal. Wealth redistribution to favored constituencies is paramount.

  20. #20
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm, steamjetKC135 said:

    Rape every man and woman in the state of Texas and Georgia?

    They’d prolly be better off picking more liberal states. Those two just executed a couple of ne’er do wells.

    Just sayin’ is all…

  21. #21
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm, NotTheMama said:

    I have a badger and I know how to use it!  

    The government should not be making ANY loans for private businesses.

  22. #22
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I have every confidence that raid was meant to locate, seize, and bury any information or evidence that would be embarassing or incriminating to Obama and his henchmen.

    That would be a reasonable conclusion.

  23. #23
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I don’t believe MM had this in her column…if she did, I missed it. The bill just passed in the dead of night last night by the House contained a 1.7 TRILLION dollar CUT in clean energy projects. A CUT. How big is that monster anyway? This is the Solyndra, etc. stuff. And I want to know how big the clean energy budget actually is!!! If they are trying to cut 1.7 TRILLION from it, the budget must be unbelievable! Of course, Reid is livid and won’t even consider passing the bill. Here we go again. And don’t blame the Republicans for this one…they are trying!

  24. #24
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I have every confidence that raid was meant to locate, seize, and bury any information or evidence that would be embarassing or incriminating to Obama and his henchmen.

    Obama: “Quick, send the FBI out to confiscate all their records so we can shred them show them to the American People and prove we had nothing to do with this!”

    Waxman: “Good idea. Then we can hold a big hearing and make sure they plead the fifth. We can get away with this, Boss, I know we can!”

  25. #25
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm, happyscrapper said:

    The bill just passed in the dead of night last night by the House contained a 1.7 TRILLION dollar CUT in clean energy projects.

    Don’t think so, Happy. There was a 100 million dollar cut to green projects as a sop to conservatives, but I haven’t seen any reference to anything of the size you describe. Do you have a source?

  26. #26
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Off topic:

    I just got home from a trip to my local pharmacy and to get my hair cut. Sigh. First, the young gal who cut my hair said she has never voted because she never knows who to vote for. I WANTED to get up and trottle her. But I patiently explained that she should look up the candidates, get familiar, and VOTE in 2012 because if we lose our free elections we will no longer be a free country. I then told her people in Iraq are literally risking their lives to vote because it is that important. Don’t know if I got through to her, but I tried.

    THEN, I went to my pharmacy because I got a letter that said Blue Cross was dropping their pharmacy from its list of participating druggists. Apparently, Blue Cross is trying to screw the “little guy” in favor of Walgreens, etc. My pharmacy is a small, friendly local one that I LOVE. So, I have a number to call to complain and tell them I will drop Blue Cross unless they leave my drugstore alone. Grrrrrr!

    The only reason I am going off topic about this is that it is just another example of how much trouble we are in out there, and it will affect each and every person in this country whether they are dems or republicans!

  27. #27
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    NOTHING Obama proposed should be passed.

    Nothing.

    Everything he and the Dems have their hands in is corrupt.

    No way in hell can his AIFA Fleecing Machine be allowed to come into existence.

    We want LESS gov’t. not more.

    EPA… gone
    IRS… gone
    Freddie…gone
    Fannie….gone
    NLRB…..gone
    DOE….gone
    DHS…..gone

    And the list goes on.

    NO. Standard answer.

    Obstructionists? Hell yeah.

  28. #28
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Don’t think so, Happy. There was a 100 million dollar cut to green projects as a sop to conservatives, but I haven’t seen any reference to anything of the size you describe. Do you have a source?

    Actually, Mark Steyn said it on the Rush program this a.m. So, he was ranting and raving over something that wasn’t even true? Gak!! I doubt that Rush would have made that mistake. I was trusting his information, but obviously, I can’t. I assume Rush is more accurate than his guest hosts! And by the way, he repeated it over and over, so I didn’t hear him wrong!

    I know he was talking about the bill passed in the night right before that, but maybe he changed course and was talking about the super committee or something trying to make those cuts. I’m not sure.

  29. #29
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    I’m with you, kid!!

  30. #30
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    JS Ragman,

    Joe, further there is no longer any sense of ‘urgency’ about Saving or Creating Jobs (TM).

    Those that have lost their careers, homes ( and God forbid marriages ) have… already DEALT w/ their new reality. They’ve moved on, learning to love the New Normal and Downward Mobility.

    In short, millions of Americans just don’t give a RIP any more! And think about it, why should they?

    Even more conflicted is the fact the whole Prog Movement is built on getting us OUT of our cars and ON to public trans! So… ‘why’ do we need all these bridges to nowhere again?

  31. #31
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    “Now look, we have seeded clean-energy technology projects all over this country,” Axelrod continued. “Many of them are very promising. Many of them are already showing success. And the fact is, when you invest in a large number of projects, some of them are not going to perform as they should. This was one of those cases.”

    He has that to say… but he NEVER heard of Solyndra.

    It’s getting deep. Looking forward to these lying bastards seeing the inside of a jail cell.

  32. #32
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:42 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The new monstrosity, dubbed the “American Infrastructure Financing Authority” (AIFA), would “provide direct loans and loan guarantees to facilitate investment in economically viable infrastructure projects of regional or national significance,” according to the White House plan.

    First Obama steals RomneyCare, now he’s stealing InfraPerry. Has this man no original ideas of his own?

  33. #33
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:43 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Now look, we have seeded clean-energy technology projects all over this country,” Axelrod continued.

    I think what he meant to say was “… we have funded seedy clean-energy technology…”

  34. #34
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    NJ-Aviator,

    And don’t take this the wrong way but I’m all for a serious curtailment of the FAA as well. If they’re fat enough to have back to back weeks w/ snoozing, moonlighting ATC’s they can stand a healthy trim too.

  35. #35
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:50 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    This disrupts the entire Corporate Debt Structure and bond underwriting process. Only about 200 companies can access money mkt. Repo Agreements, LOC’s etc.

    Forget senior subordinated debt! That’s for LOSERS! You’d practically have Fortune 500 co’s self/de-constructing themselves to line up at the Free Money trough.

    Show us (1) example where this has ‘worked’ Mr. pResident?

  36. #36
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm, Speakup said:

    President Obama still hasn’t learned the classic First Rule of Holes: When you’re in one, stop digging.

    Digging us deeper. Its obvious now that’s what he meant when he said shovel ready jobs.

  37. #37
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm, Flyoverman said:

    If you gave every top official in this administration a polygraph the results cause the Federal prison system population to double.

  38. #38
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm, NJ-Aviator said:
    “Now look, we have seeded clean-energy technology projects all over this country,” Axelrod continued. “Many of them are very promising. Many of them are already showing success. And the fact is, when you invest in a large number of projects, some of them are not going to perform as they should. This was one of those cases.”
    He has that to say… but he NEVER heard of Solyndra.

    It’s getting deep. Looking forward to these lying bastards seeing the inside of a jail cell.

    That is an excellent point! He just stepped in it! How can he NOT be familiar with Solyndra when he is familiar with the “seeded clean-energy technology projects all over this country, many of them very promising and many of them already showing success. Sounds like he knows a lot about them! But he “never heard of solyndra”. These people can’t even keep their lies straight any more.

  39. #39
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm, DesertLover said:

    Flyoverman …

    ONLY DOUBLE … someone better check that polygraph equipment … sounds like it is defective … :lol:

  40. #40
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm, rambler said:

    Shovel ready….. shovel fast and often. bho’s plan was to move taxpayer money from the treasury to doomed projects so that the money could be donated back to the DNC. We’re looking at money laundering and not green energy investment. bho’s idea of investment is making sure he gets 4 more years to destroy the country.

  41. #41
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Shovel ready

    The only thing that the Obama administration produced that was shovel ready were the results of Fast and Furious.

    How many morticians jobs did that stumulus program save or add?

  42. #42
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm, BK said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Government Loans to Nowhere

    Pretty much states the case for just about all government loans of the past several years, if not decades.

    That should read:
    Government Loans to Cronies

  43. #43
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm, Collateral Damage said:

    I can only hope and pray (HARD) that the Republilcans in the House continue to tell the Jackass-In-Chief, “No, No, and No Way, Mr. Jackass-In-Chief! We are simply not going to allow you to flat up and waste (read: distribute) any more dough to your cronies! Not until you account for every dime of the $900 Billion in tarp money!”

  44. #44
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm, sonerai32645 said:

    Gosh, how do we stop these people. We really are a runaway freighttrain and there is a curve ahead. Where is the breakman (woman) or it will be to late

  45. #45
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I don’t know if he was wrong or right. Normally I listen to Rush, but as I’ve said before, Steyn’s speaking drives me nuts and I can’t listen to him.

  46. #46
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    I wake every morning and go to work for the Veterans Administration. I see the young people hammering away at their computers but not caring about veterans but the points they need to earn. Do you even think that the VA cares about us or the files pushed. Do you care? Sorry OT and just got home with inundated files.

  47. #47
    On September 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    txvet2,

    I couldn’t disagree more! Mark’s pronunciation of Eau` BOW-meer is priceless! I could listen to that all day.

  48. #48
    On September 24th, 2011 at 12:08 am, stuckinIL4now said:

    Here, here, I agree–enough already!

    Solyndra, Lightsquared, and now an ill wind is blowing in from Missouri with another odor Odonor who may have benefitted from stimuslush.

    If ONE of these things had occurred during Bush’s or any Republican administration it would have broken out into 24×7 coverage and outrage–two or three things together would cause non-stop BREAKING NEWS and ALERTS from the leftistlibprog media spinmeisters.

    Which Rule for Radicals does this fall under? You know, the one where the sleazebags INUNDATE us with so many obscene and despicable scandals that we don’t know where to start? It’s time to kick this flip-floppin’ flunky’s arrogant bony as* to the curb.

  49. #49
    On September 24th, 2011 at 12:11 am, txvet2 said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    It isn’t his accent, it’s his reedy voice continually repeating a word or phrase while he’s trying to relate some endless and relatively pointless witticism that really drives me up the wall. I know he’s a smart guy but I just can’t listen to him. Obviously others disagree, since he’s drawing an audience and Rush keeps bringing him back.

  50. #50
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:09 am, stillontheroad said:

    “President Obama still hasn’t learned the classic First Rule of Holes: When you’re in one, stop digging.”
    But didn’t our fearless leader once say we had to dig our way out of this hole!

  51. #51
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:51 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    Time for CIA to start digging into some Swiss bank accounts…

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

  52. #52
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am, cabrerski said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:42 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    Has this man no original ideas of his own?

    Well…he does take a lot of money from Hollywood. We know they have not made an original movie in years. They just rehash old scripts and try to sell it to the fools (public).
    Case in point: a remake of Al Pacino’s Scarface is in the works – which was a remake Paul Muni’s Scarface. Spiderman is being redone only 10 years after it came out.
    Remember this the next time you watch the Hollywood idiots pat themselves on the back during the Oscars. Then think of the Backpatter-in-Chief currently in the White House.

  53. #53
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:40 am, cabrerski said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:09 am, stillontheroad said:
    But didn’t our fearless leader once say we had to dig our way out of this hole!

    When I was a wee little cabrerski, I remember my father joking about digging a deep hole – saying we were digging to China. How prophetic.
    The hole we are digging will leave us in debt to China so much that we will probably have to sign the pink slip over to them soon.

  54. #54
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am, Mister P said:

    What about the 2 Billion dollars that went to the experimental clean coal electrical plant in Mattoon Illinois? What has come of that boondoggle?

  55. #55
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am, Mister P said:
    What about the 2 Billion dollars that went to the experimental clean coal electrical plant in Mattoon Illinois? What has come of that boondoggle?

    From Wiki: FutureGen is a US government project announced by President George W. Bush in 2003;[1] its initial plan involved the construction of a near zero-emissions coal-fueled power plant to produce hydrogen and electricity while using carbon capture and storage.[2]

    In December 2007, Mattoon Township, Coles County, Illinois northwest of Mattoon, Illinois was chosen as the site for the plant from among four finalists in Illinois and Texas. On January 29, 2008, the Department of Energy announced a restructuring of the FutureGen project, which was claimed necessary due to rising costs.[3] In June 2008, the government announced a call for proposals to elicit commercial involvement in the restructuring.[4][5] In 2010, after a number of setbacks, the city of Mattoon backed out of the project

  56. #56
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Mark Stein is a very important voice for those of us who believe America is freedom’s last great hope and worth saving. No one has made the case.

    If you can’t stand people who don’t speak with a nasally Texas twang, just read his books. They are “must reading”.

  57. #57
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:58 am, happyscrapper said:

    Oops! This was buried deep in the end of the Wiki article:

    “In March 2009 Washington Post reported that U.S. Secretary of Energy Steven Chu expressed support for continuing the project using stimulus funds (after some changes that have not yet been specified) and making it a part of a larger portfolio of research plants developed in collaboration with other countries”.[14]

    OMG

  58. #58
    On September 24th, 2011 at 10:58 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Correction:

    Mark Stein is a very important voice for those of us who believe America is freedom’s last great hope and worth saving. No one has made the case BETTER.

  59. #59
    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:06 am, happyscrapper said:

    My only problem with Mark Steyn is that he laughs at his own jokes…a lot! I do like what he has to say, however. But yesterday, he did say the bill contained a 1.7 trillion cut to the clean energy budget. He was ranting about it. I don’t think I heard him wrong! I didn’t hear any correction from him.

  60. #60
    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Happy, you find ample reasons to defend people who are running for president who are brazen crooks but you will penalize a guy who is articulating the case for saving America on style points and on something you may have heard wrong? Txvet doesn’t like him because he doesn’t like his accent? What is wrong with you people?

  61. #61
    On September 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    That should read:
    Government LoansGrants to Cronies

    Even better. In reality there is probably no expectation from either party that the loan will be repaid.

  62. #62
    On September 24th, 2011 at 12:35 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am, Pasadena Phil said:
    Happy, you find ample reasons to defend people who are running for president who are brazen crooks but you will penalize a guy who is articulating the case for saving America on style points and on something you may have heard wrong? Txvet doesn’t like him because he doesn’t like his accent? What is wrong with you people?

    First of all, I don’t “defend” brazen crooks, as you put it. I give them the benefit of the doubt, unless proven otherwise. I keep my mind open. It is too early to write every single candidate off because they have a few minus points. That is what debate and discussion on these thread is all about. I know that your mind is made up and discussion is not necessary. But most of the rest of us still want to consider the candidates and all their qualifications or lack of.

    As for Mark Steyn, I heard what I heard, and even wrote it down as he said it because it was so outrageous. As for criticizing him…I only stated facts…he laughs at his own jokes and got a fact wrong on Friday’s show. Does that mean I don’t like him? Well, what else did I say in my post? I LIKE him!!

  63. #63
    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:48 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    happy,

    My local talk radio guy went on for a couple segments on the $1.7T CUT to the Clean Energy yesterday also wondering how big the total budget really is. He couldn`t find out either.

    Sooo, he got the story from somewhere too.

  64. #64
    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:51 pm, happyscrapper said:

    By the way, Phil, there are a few candidates I absolutely reject!

    Huntsman
    Johnson
    Paul
    Romney
    Perry…after hearing his remarks on immigration

    I don’t recall “defending” them. Perhaps I “defended” Perry at first until I heard more of him. Now, I don’t care for him.

    Unfortunately, we will probably be stuck with Romney or Perry as our candidate. Sigh.

    And now, Christie is thinking about running? Good Lord Almighty! Save us from this New Jersey RINO!! He belongs on Jersey Shore, not in the WH!

  65. #65
    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:56 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:48 pm, SignPainterGuy said:
    happy,

    My local talk radio guy went on for a couple segments on the $1.7T CUT to the Clean Energy yesterday also wondering how big the total budget really is. He couldn`t find out either.

    Sooo, he got the story from somewhere too.

    Maybe he got the story from Steyn! It is scary how far and wide a false story can circulate! Anyway, at least I’m not crazy and I DID hear Steyn right!

    Thanks! :grin:

    By the way, isn’t it telling that we get billion and trillion mixed up? That is how far gone this country is!! And I heard Rush mistakenly say billion instead of million a couple times the other day before he corrected himself. Pretty soon, we will be talking about serious money! :roll:

  66. #66
    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:57 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Time to leave for a while. Church pictures this afternoon.

    Later…

  67. #67
    On September 24th, 2011 at 2:03 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    Smile purty, happy !!

  68. #68
    On September 24th, 2011 at 4:14 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 2:03 pm, SignPainterGuy said: Smile purty, happy !!

    I did, guy! And we ordered our Christmas cards for this year! Nice to be so far ahead with Christmas. And in fact, I bought a gift yesterday too. I know it is pushing the season a bit, but it’s fun!

  69. #69
    On September 24th, 2011 at 5:22 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    Happy,

    Good fer you ! You for sure have me beaten on cards, but I bought my Bluegrass lovin` BinL some of his gifts in May. I found a set of miniature musical instruments (tree ornaments); guitar, fiddle, bass, dulcimer and banjo. Handmade and very accurate wood. I usually get him some cd`s.

  70. #70
    On September 24th, 2011 at 5:38 pm, cabrerski said:

    Happy,
    Can I order some SkilletSmacks booklets from you for Christmas? I will give them to politicians and when they redeem them from you…you can light them up with the ol’ 8″ Battle Skillet.

  71. #71
    On September 24th, 2011 at 5:40 pm, txvet2 said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Txvet doesn’t like him because he doesn’t like his accent?

    On September 24th, 2011 at 12:11 am, txvet2 said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    It isn’t his accent

    Why do you feel you have to make up lies about me? What is wrong with you? Never mind, I already know. You’re insane.

  72. #72
    On September 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm, cabrerski said:

    SPG,
    Where did you find the musical ornaments? Mrs. cabrerski does a theme Christmas tree in each room and one of them is a musical tree. I know she scours the globe, but maybe she missed these.
    Thanks.

  73. #73
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:01 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Hey folks…Herm Cain won the straw poll!! Gov. Scott of Florida has said that every single person who has won the Florida straw poll has gone on to win the nomination!!!!! Could the tide be turning?? :grin:

  74. #74
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:03 pm, happyscrapper said:

    They are talking about the rousing speech Herman Cain gave today. I can attest to that! I saw him at the RightOnLine Conference give an amazing speech. He came out on stage thumping his chest and waving and everyone in the place stood up and screamed, including me! I am not usually so emotional, but he really rocked the house!

  75. #75
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:05 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    cabrerski,

    I found them in the store on the Blue Ridge Parkway near Asheville,NC at the Folk Art Center.

    Blue Ridge Regl Destinstion Ct is all that`s on the receipt. Look on the Blue Ridge Parkway w/s http://www.romanticasheville.com/folk_art.htm .

    If you like (and they still have them – I`ll check tomorrow), I can buy and mail them to you. $7.95 ea. +tax and shipping of course + ++++. ;-)

  76. #76
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:05 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 5:22 pm, SignPainterGuy said:
    Happy,

    Good fer you ! You for sure have me beaten on cards, but I bought my Bluegrass lovin` BinL some of his gifts in May. I found a set of miniature musical instruments (tree ornaments); guitar, fiddle, bass, dulcimer and banjo. Handmade and very accurate wood. I usually get him some cd`s.

    You found a dulcimer? I would love to get a dulcimer ornament for my daughter. Do you recall where you got them?

  77. #77
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:08 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Hey SignPainterGuy! I wrote to you before I saw your post. I would love to get those ornaments too! I will check out the website.

  78. #78
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:09 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    happy #73-4,

    Excellent news indeed. Thanks !

  79. #79
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:11 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    happy,

    I clicked submit too soon.

    I saw and did the poll at Weasel Zippers this morning. Herman Cain was second behind Perry by 3.3%; both in the 30s. I`m likin` it !

  80. #80
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:30 pm, cabrerski said:

    SPG,
    Thank you so much. I will pass that on to the better half. If she needs your help, I will be back groveling (LOL).

    Thank you for the offer. BTW, great news about Herman Cain. Even second would help…a lot.

  81. #81
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    I just reviewed the w/s; it was at the BRP Visitor Center, not the Folk Art Center where I found the ornaments, but I plan to go to both tomorrow, I`ll look at both places. They`re nearly 20 miles apart.

  82. #82
    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:40 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm, SignPainterGuy said:
    I just reviewed the w/s; it was at the BRP Visitor Center, not the Folk Art Center where I found the ornaments, but I plan to go to both tomorrow, I`ll look at both places. They`re nearly 20 miles apart.

    If you find some, see if they can be ordered on-line. That would be easier than you having to mail them.

  83. #83
    On September 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    happy,

    The receipt says 3-31-11, so I`m concerned about supply. I have no idea how big the manufacturer is.

    I`ll definitely check on-line avail. and let you know tomorrow evening, probably on MM`s latest thread.

    If on-line isn`t an option, I can give my email addy at Doug`s place (registration is open) and as soon as you and cabrerski and anyone else (depending on quantity) give confirmation, I can delete the post there and work out transaction by email.

    Does that work for you ?

  84. #84
    On September 24th, 2011 at 7:28 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    Sounds like a plan. Thanks!

  85. #85
    On September 24th, 2011 at 7:45 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    happy,

    Kewl. I should lay these out on a board and photo them. They average about 5″ long, and have a remarkably slick varnish finish. They`re gorgeous ! Very realistic work. You won`t be disappointed.

    My Sis also does themed trees for Christmas. When I saw these ornaments, I had to get them. I meant to go back and complete the set. There`s a larger violin (bass) and guitar.

  86. #86
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:01 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Marshall_Will said:

    NJ-Aviator,

    And don’t take this the wrong way but I’m all for a serious curtailment of the FAA as well. If they’re fat enough to have back to back weeks w/ snoozing, moonlighting ATC’s they can stand a healthy trim too.

    I’d agree with that. There is much in the FAA that needs to be trimmed. Much is also necessary. But even that which is necessary could stand more efficiency.

    Towered airports with light overnight traffic that still have a tower controller might be able to go without a controller for a shift. There are numerous airports that operate that way now like TTN and PNE. I know the FAA evaluates these situations, but it may be the case that there are towers that don’t require overnight controllers. Especially any server by nearby radar facilities. Aircraft mainly need to be handled to the approach. They don’t need a cleared to land from a tower controller of they are the only aircraft on approach. With automated weather reporting, the ceiling and visibility would already be known and any issues with equipment would also be known.

    Yeah… so add the FAA to my list. But not to shut them down. Just make them more efficient and maybe more accountable for their efficiency.

  87. #87
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:04 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    at 3:29 pm, happyscrapper said:

    That is an excellent point! He just stepped in it! How can he NOT be familiar with Solyndra when he is familiar with the “seeded clean-energy technology projects all over this country, many of them very promising and many of them already showing success. Sounds like he knows a lot about them! But he “never heard of solyndra”. These people can’t even keep their lies straight any more.

    Yup. I think they are all just trying to distance themselves from this because they know if it unravels and they are believed to be involved, they are screwed.

    happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    I’m with you, kid!!

    Why thank you!

  88. #88
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:16 pm, Unintelligible said:

    On September 24th, 2011 at 1:56 pm, happyscrapper said:

    By the way, isn’t it telling that we get billion and trillion mixed up?

    Yes, and demagogues exploit their similar sounds to manipulate us into forgetting the realities differ by factors of 1000–that’s as serious an error as confusing a dime with a $100 bill!

    Expressing it as time sometimes helps:

    * A MILLION seconds ago was around September 12th.

    * A BILLION seconds ago was around 1980.

    * A TRILLION seconds ago was around 30,000 B.C.

  89. #89
    On September 24th, 2011 at 9:25 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    Unintelligible,

    Wow, that was quite “telligible” ! Thanks ! ;-)

  90. #90
    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:33 pm, cabrerski said:

    #83 On September 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    Thank you so much, SPG.

  91. #91
    On September 24th, 2011 at 11:39 pm, SignPainterGuy said:

    cabrerski #90,

    Did you read all my discussion with happy and giving email at Doug`s place ?

  92. #92
    On September 25th, 2011 at 11:43 am, cabrerski said:

    Yes…and I think I did. ;-)

  93. #93
    On September 25th, 2011 at 12:35 pm, right_on said:

    I love lead in picture. Knowing what we know about Democrat Corpo-rats, things fall into place.

    First they assured the committee that they would testify freely, without invoking the “Fifth.” Fast forward two weeks, the weasels show up, attorneys in tow, envoking the Fifth Amendment. Conclusion: They lied! (Or, flip-flop, your choice!)

    Now, revisit the above photo, and imagining them saying with those dirty little hands raised:

    “We did nothing wrong. Everything we did was above-board, and closely scrutinized by representatives of the White House!”

    As I have often said, the opposite of what these Democrats say is the truth.

    Yeah, we’ll see more of their “truths” to come. I can’t wait to hear Valerie Jarrett’s “truths,” providing she testifies. She won’t, I’m sure…let’s just see how “convenient” the claim of Executive Privilege becomes….

  94. #94
    On September 25th, 2011 at 3:02 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On September 23rd, 2011 at 11:40 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, so has anyone subtracted the Solyndra jobs from the admin’s tally sheet?

    This info won’t be updated to the proper figures until the day AFTER the Nov 2012 elections when O’Mulligan is voted out of office. All bets are off then.

    This will also be the appropriate time for these slimeball CEOs to testify without the use of the 5th protecting themselves AND O’Mulligan & Co.

    “…nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself…”

    This happens to be a Congressional inquiry (as such) and NOT a criminal case so how can the 5th come in to play?

    I’m not a lawyer and don’t even play one on TV so any help here would be appreciated. (Where is ChappedAss when you need him? He must be awfully busy with the ambulance chasing at Dewey, Cheetham, and Howe!)

    TIA!

    Peas

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