The EduJobs III Bailout; Update – Harry Reid: Who cares about private sector jobs?

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 19, 2011 04:38 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you are paying attention. Democrats in Washington are turning up the heat on the GOP as they push for quick passage of the “mini” $35 billion union jobs bailout. True to Alinsky form, Team Obama is spinning more emo-narratives centered on saving teachers from layoffs. At a Save the Teachers and Children! press conference yesterday, Senate Dems poured it on thick for their Big Labor pals. So did Joe Biden, who schmoozed it up with a class of fourth graders before turning on the fear-mongering spigot. Ignoring the billions in taxpayer dollars that he’s redistributed to the National Education Association’s pet causes over the last three years, the campaigner-in-chief took to the classroom to bemoan that “We have a tendency to say great things about how important education is in the abstract, but we don’t always put our money where our mouth is.”

As I spotlighted last week, President Obama’s marquee jobless teacher/poster boy for the union jobs bailout is a Boston educator who is NOT jobless. And all the little lies serve the larger Obama fraud of endless Keynesian intervention as a “cure” — which I’ve hit on again in my new column this week. Copy, clip, and save this companion chart (h/t Veronique de Rugy) for a ready reality check:

Update: Reid’s priorities laid bare. “It’s very clear that private sector jobs have been doing just fine, it’s the public sector jobs where we’ve lost huge numbers, and that’s what this legislation is all about,” Reid said on the Senate floor.”

Video:

Listen to what this responsible teacher has to say: When funds run out “you end up fiscally going off a cliff,” said Iowa Rep. Jeremy Taylor, R-Sioux City, vice chairman of the Iowa House Education Committee. “I don’t think it’s a wise idea for our state to be budgeting based on that one-time money, and I say that as both a legislator and a teacher.

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The EduJobs III Bailout
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

One of my son’s Suzuki violin teachers had a wise twist on an old saying: “If at first you don’t succeed, try something else.” The corollary? “When you do succeed, don’t stop. Do it again.” The White House could use some remedial Suzuki lessons in economics. They’ve got everything completely bass-ackward.

In February 2009, President Obama signed the trillion-dollar American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Nearly $115 billion was earmarked for education. The stimulator-in-chief’s crack team of Ivy League economists predicted the law would hold the jobless rate under 8.5 percent.

The actual unemployment rate in October 2009 skyrocketed to a whopping 10.2 percent.

In August 2010, President Obama went back to the well. With deep-pocketed public employee unions by his side, he lobbied hard for the so-called “EduJobs” bill — $26 billion more to bail out bankrupt states, school districts and public hospitals. Nearly half went to teachers, whose unions raked in an estimated $50 million in rank-and-file dues as a result. Obama’s economists had promised the jobless rate would be down to 7.9 percent by then.

The actual unemployment rate in August 2010 was 9.6 percent.

Now, after the Senate rejected President Rerun’s latest half-trillion-dollar stimulus proposal, Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid are pushing for a “mini” $30 billion union jobs package for teachers (with $5 billion to mollify police and firefighters unions). In addition to funding fantastical green school construction jobs (earmarked for unionized-only contractors in an industry that is 85 percent nonunion), the EduJobs III bill will purportedly “save” 400,000 education jobs at an average cost of nearly $80,000 per job. Those will be paid for with a 0.5 percent surtax on millionaires. The job-savings estimates come from the same economic wunderkinds who predicted the jobless rate today would be 7.1 percent.

The actual unemployment rate reported this month is 9.1 percent. While the White House decries layoffs, the inconvenient truth is that the EduJobs III union payoff is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions laid off in the private sector. According to official government statistics, the share of the eligible population now holding a job has sunk to 58.1 percent, the lowest since July 1983. (Moreover, as education investigative reporter Mike Antonucci and others have noted, the White House teacher layoff math is more statistical chicanery.)

So, where did all the original EduJobs money go? One survey by the Center on Education Policy found that much of the cash went to bolster fringe benefits and administrative staff. The Fordham Institute’s education analyst Chris Tessone noted: “There is no reason to expect anything but business as usual from another round of subsidies. … More subsidies just protect the status quo at great expense to taxpayers.”

While strapped, reckless-spending school districts bemoan the edge of the federal “funding cliff,” another chunk of the EduJobs money went to states that didn’t even need it — and had kept their teacher payrolls full through responsible fiscal stewardship. As education journalist Chris Moody reported last summer, states including North Dakota, Tennessee, Arkansas and Alaska whose budgets are in the black received tens of millions in superfluous school subsidies. “Arkansas,” Moody found, “has a fully funded teaching staff for the coming year, but the state will still receive up to $91 million for teaching jobs.”

In Alaska, school districts had already made hiring decisions for teachers and apportioned the children in each class based upon those numbers. Nevertheless, to fulfill their teachers union-pandering mission, Obama showered the state with $24 million under the bill — money that a state education bureaucrat acknowledged “probably would not go to adding new teachers.”

Other states, such as Illinois and West Virginia, raked in hundreds of millions more in EduJobs dough even though they hadn’t yet burned through 2009 education stimulus money. In fact, a total of 20 states and the District of Columbia have spent less than 5 percent of their allotments, according to Education Week magazine.

An Obama education official helpfully suggested that the unneeded money be spent on “on-campus therapists” instead.

Many other school districts failed to heed warnings against binging on full-time hiring sprees with temporary funding. Education Week reported this spring that the New Hanover County (N.C.) school district used $4.8 million in short-term EduJobs money to fund 88 teaching positions, in addition to more than 100 classroom slots funded with 2009 stimulus tax dollars. Obama and the Democrats blame meanie Republicans for the fiscal emergencies these districts now face.

But who devoured the Beltway candy instead of eating their peas? Washington rewards bloated school pensions, Taj Mahal construction outlays and chronic local education budget shortfalls by pouring more money down their sinkholes.

Instead of incentivizing fixes, politicians — dependent on teachers union campaign contributions and human shield photo-ops — incentivize more failure.

The solution to this vicious cycle of profligacy? It’s elementary: Try something else.

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Related must-read from Neal McCluskey, who further deconstructs the White House teacher layoff math:

The administration’s report, after all, says that 300,000 elementary and secondary jobs were lost between 2008 and 2011, which seems like a big number. The report doesn’t say whether that was net or total, and it is probably a worst-case scenario, but still, that feels huge.

Huge, that is, until you see what it’s out of. In 2008 the total number of school and district employees was 6,318,395. That means a 300,000 loss was just a 4.7 percent trimming — far from humongous. To put that in students-per-employee perspective, using the latest total enrollment estimate such a cut would have taken us from a ratio of 7.9 students per employee in 2008 to about 8.2 to 1 today. In other words, it would have created a student-to-employee situation we haven’t seen since all the way back in…2003.

Oh.

But what if we lost another 280,000, which is the scenario the administration if trying to scare us with for the current school year? Add that to the 300,000 worst-case loss between 2008 and today, and it would be a total edu-jobs loss of 580,000. In percentage terms that would be a 9.2 percent drop since 2008, and in student-per-staffer perspective an uptick to 8.6 kids per employee, a proportion we last saw in just 1998.

That’s regretable, perhaps, but considering the gigantic staffing increases over the decades — a near doubling since 1969 — and stagnant achievement scores, we should probably be asking why we’ve let cuts be so small up to now. And lest we forget: The nation has an over $14 trillion-and-growing debt, which threatens all of us like a gigantic asteroid hurtling toward Earth. In light of that, using taxpayer dollars to keep public schooling a perpetual jobs factory not only flies in the face of educational logic, it is fiscal and economic lunacy.

The Obama Administration’s edu-jobs plan might work politically — it might be a great weapon for getting votes — but as public policy it is utterly irresponsible.

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  1. #1
    On October 19th, 2011 at 5:19 am, FrankNitti said:

    the liar-in-chief is up to his usual self…..the 1st lie doesn’t stand a chance because here come another.

  2. #2
    On October 19th, 2011 at 5:24 am, sonerai32645 said:

    gosh and people will still vote for this guy. god help america. sorry about no caps

  3. #3
    On October 19th, 2011 at 5:56 am, CommentGuy said:

    Instead of spending money that we have to pay for to finance teacher jobs the better approach would be to stop the dragging their feet on real energy jobs in coal,gas and oil extraction.

    The revenue from those jobs would pay for the same teachers he wants to pander too.

    As a bonus other jobs would be created and spending by those workers would have ripple effects for the rest of the economy.

  4. #4
    On October 19th, 2011 at 7:06 am, wckelly60 said:

    The only noticeable increase in jobs from ARRA came from the businesses who made the signs along the interstates touting Obama’s program at empty job sites.

    When I took my bride for a two-plus week roadtrip around the US I saw a lot of signs, some barricades, but rarely did I see anyone actually working at these sites.

    Michelle, your son takes the Suzuki method for violin? Cool! I have a friend who has taught it for 25 years. It works!

  5. #5
    On October 19th, 2011 at 7:08 am, wckelly60 said:

    Darn, I clicked too fast on my last post.

    I meant to close with this:

    ARRA was a failure. This current mini bailout is just extortion.

  6. #6
    On October 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am, John Deaux said:

    But, it’s for the children.

  7. #7
    On October 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am, kwrxxx said:

    The Dems just don’t understand that government jobs cost society more. Private sector jobs are for the
    best in the long run.

  8. #8
    On October 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am, stillontheroad said:

    The question needs to be asked:
    “Where did all the 800 odd Billion Dollars go for the first pork bill and, why did you snicker when you stated -”I guess those jobs were not that shovel ready – snicker, wink, snicker.”
    “All your green industry loans to all the comopanies that are going and have already gone belly up – where did that loan money go/How was it spent and why did you and your regime stick it to the American tax payer again?”
    ” With this new so called jobs bill you want to give money to States to give to teachers and police who belong to Public Service Unions – how do you plan to keep tax payer money from filling the public Service Union Coffers to donate to you?”

  9. #9
    On October 19th, 2011 at 8:59 am, WaterBoyz said:

    And who wants to bet that the Rs won’t have the cajones to say NO.

    We’ve been throwing $$$ at education teachers and are we any better?

    Where the hell is the RNC/GOP marketing department when something like this is being popularized by the Ds?

    I read somewhere, that posed the question…Why are there no Rs who have ever taken a speech/drama class?

    Trial lawyers do it. Apparently the Ds do it.

  10. #10
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am, peteee said:

    One of my son’s Suzuki violin teachers had a wise twist on an old saying: “If at first you don’t succeed, try something else.”

    curly of the three stooges also had a version of this, how it ever got past censors i will never know. he was using succeed as two words.

  11. #11
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:09 am, sbw999 said:

    We have a tendency to say great things about how important education is in the abstract, but we don’t always put our money where our mouth is.”

    For the love of the Almighty how much more do we need to throw into our joke of a public school system??? We already spend more per student than anybody else on the planet, and we have pitiful rankings in reading, science and math.

    These people, the President and all his supporters, are clinically delusional. They have a serious mental disorder; and should not hold office of any kind.

  12. #12
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:22 am, 4gotnblud said:

    When my son was in high school in Lee County, FL the school district did not have enough funds to ensure each student had all text books. At the same time they were building a new high school “campus” that resembled a mini community college and the in-coming new superintendent was spending $80,000.00 to have her office re-decorated. Meanwhile my son’s school had its own television studio that must have cost more than a hundred thousand dollars.

    I found out that the some of the schools were offering classes in air flight ( I guess for those interested in getting their private pilots licensing). This begs the question “what is the curriculum of schools today”? I know that many schools have golf teams and classes but is this really necessary? What is the purpose of education in America? We are graduating illiterates who know nothing about the history of this country or cannot locate individual states on a map much less name the states. I cannot imagine what unnecessary curricula is present in our schools today.

  13. #13
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    The solution to this vicious cycle of profligacy? It’s elementary: Try something else Ron Paul.

    Mo’ bettah!

  14. #14
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am, stuckinIL4now said:

    What is so sacred about teacher jobs? Is Obellyacher worried there won’t be enough union dues to be contributed to his campaign? And do we need more dedicated teachers like, oh, I dunno, those in Wisconsin earlier this year? Obelaborer has sooooo exaggerated this and hammered on it worse than beating a dead horse.

    I’ll keep saying over and over and over again–stop throwing borrowed cash down the political drainhole, then get out of the way with regs and taxes and let the private sector put the other tens of millions of unemployed back to work and the tax base will grow to employ more teachers and other public servants than even His Extravagance can imagine–but then we’ll know how much we don’t need to.

    Repukes will pass this. True REPUBS won’t. Pleeeeeeez, DON’T!

  15. #15
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:39 am, Marshall_Will said:

    MM said:

    While the White House decries layoffs, the inconvenient truth is that the EduJobs III union payoff is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions laid off in the private sector

    Thank you. When Federal Reserve-direct funded PEU’s can show 50% reductions in the headcount such as took place at my wife’s Fortune 500 employer then there’s a basis for all of this.

    Where is their Jobs Bill Mr. pResident? Oh that’s right, they’re in the private sector so they can jump off a cliff as far as you’re concerned? Forget fighting for a parking spot, there’s plenty to go around!

  16. #16
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    But who devoured the Beltway candy crack instead of eating their peas?

    Just as addictive.

  17. #17
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am, swede said:

    John Deaux said:

    But, it’s for the children.

    Yeah. Maybe it’s time to get some adults in Washingtoon. Just a thot.

  18. #18
    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am, canb0nly1 said:

    I hate seeing those numbers of “Unemployment.” They are an out and out lie. The 9.x% number “unemployment” is only the people collecting Unemployment Insurance. Double that and you’re close to the actual. Why we let them (pols) get a way with that giant lie, I do not know. I guess it’s just one of many.

    “How do you know when a politician is lying?”

  19. #19
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:08 am, Truesoldier said:

    “We have a tendency to say great things about how important education is in the abstract, but we don’t always put our money where our mouth is.”

    No, the problem is you have been putting our money where you mouth is without ever expecting any real results in better educating our children.

  20. #20
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:10 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Trying something else is not how it’s done in politics. It’s an endless Groundhog’s Day of hold your nose and vote for the status quo believing that THIS time it will work.

  21. #21
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:11 am, Truesoldier said:

    the EduJobs III bill will purportedly “save” 400,000 education jobs at an average cost of nearly $80,000 per job. Those will be paid for with a 0.5 percent surtax on millionaires.

    Why should millionaires have to pay more for public schools that they do not even use?

  22. #22
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am, cabrerski said:

    Face it, effiency is not the government’s strong suit. Nor is responsibility or accountibility the best trait found in any politician, but more so in the liberal side.

    The problem with money – it is finite and has a real value. We are trying to apply this to altruistic values and pie-in-the-sky expectations. Totally apples and oranges. They do not correlate well and are always subject to misinterpretation and chicanery. Especially to the rubes that make up a good percent of the American voting public.

  23. #23
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am, Marshall_Will said:

    canbonly1,

    Depending on where you’re at, the U-6 number can be flirting w/ 20% Unemployment. The entire thrust of this is to graft as many former pvt. sector employees to the Federal Reserve-direct PEU trough as possible.

    Where Team Obama is concerned we’re all better off if the pvt. sector jobs that went away simply evaporated permanently and get replaced by “on campus therapists” did Michelle say?

  24. #24
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    I graduated from high school in 1959. I was very well prepared for Electrical Engineering university courses. My fellow students who weren’t university bound were pretty well prepared for carpenter, plumber, electrician, auto body / mechanic, office work, drafting, cooking, and (egads!) homemaking jobs.
    ***
    When my children entered high school they received “dumbed down” classes. When I helped them with math, scientific, history, government, and proper English usage problems it was obvious that they were not getting as good an education as my generation did. Looking at the textbooks and talking to some of the teachers confirmed this.
    ***
    A few of the “old school” teachers did do very good jobs. However, many of them seemed less prepared than most of my generation’s teachers.
    ***
    The Dept. of (poor and political) Education (aka indoctrination) should be shut down and the money given to the local school districts. Better bang for the bucks. With a return to the “old school” ways of teaching.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  25. #25
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am, PhredE said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am, Marshall_Will said:

    canbonly1,

    Depending on where you’re at, the U-6 number can be flirting w/ 20% Unemployment.

    Yup. I’m glad someone pointed that out.
    Of course, Obama’s claims are hopelessly inaccurate (or purposefully misleading? / cough, cough). However, even the ‘official’ estimates (and yes, that’s all they are) tend to grossly underestimate the full scope/nature of the problem.

    It could be, that there is a subpopulation of workers moving back and forth between the full-time ranks (eg. not officially unemployed) and part-time status (eg. again, not officially unemployed); this would be particularly troublesome for folks in the lowest-end of pay scales.

    On October 19th, 2011 at 9:50 am, canb0nly1 said:

    I hate seeing those numbers of “Unemployment.” They are an out and out lie. The 9.x% number “unemployment” is only the people collecting Unemployment Insurance. Double that and you’re close to the actual. Why we let them (pols) get a way with that giant lie, I do not know. I guess it’s just one of many.

    To help support your point..

    Several years ago (I believe this was under the Bubba Admin..) I had lucked upon a study that examined that exact issue in detail. The authors of the study essentially summed up by claiming that somewhere between about %40-%45 of all persons that suddenly became jobless did not go right down to their local Employment Dept. (or similarly named agency in your fine town) and apply for UI. Although that was done in a more prosperous time, one could expect that people would have more confidence in ‘holding out’ and moving on to the next gig successfully. In fact, some never do. At the present time, one would expect that more people would apply and likely sooner. This still suggests that a large proportion of the newly unemployed don’t apply for and be counted as ‘unemployed’. Short answer: you are quite correct.

  26. #26
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am, canb0nly1 said:

    Don’t forget 1099ers who don’t get counted as unemployed when they don’t have work.

    The U3 “official” unemployment number isn’t even close.

  27. #27
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am, PhredE said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am, canb0nly1 said:

    Don’t forget 1099ers who don’t get counted as unemployed when they don’t have work.

    The U3 “official” unemployment number isn’t even close.

    Yup.

  28. #28
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am, DANEgerus said:

    Subsidize Democrat jobs with debt dollars or you deserve to be raped! Just ask Joe Biden(D)

  29. #29
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:45 am, canb0nly1 said:

    Also the hundreds of thousands (millions?) who “elect” to not work and instead live off the public dime.

    My oldest sister used to be in that category. It got real old when she’d call me every April wanting me to help her buy a new computer or big screen with the “tax rebate” she was getting. I told her one year that she needed to buy me one, since that was my money anyway. :)

    After that she spent several years getting her education and financial situation in order. Worked very hard to earn her own way. Now she’s a successful graphic designer and owns her own home. I’m very proud of her. She recently got laid off and instead of whining at wall street (or whatever) she earned another degree and took a low-paying job until she can find something better. It’s really an amazing turn around.

    So there is hope.

    But it’s going to suck more before it gets better.

  30. #30
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am, NavyGal said:

    So Chicken Diddle is crying, “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” again. Maybe he should take a walk under a coconut tree instead of an oak tree.

  31. #31
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Reid hasn’t grasped the concept of what it means to SHRINK the government. People are going to lose jobs. We don’t employ people just to keep them employed.

  32. #32
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:54 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    CNBC is now reporting that the DOE has been caught rewriting previously issued press releases. The crawl reads “DOE rewrites history”.

    Where is the Republican outrage? Enough polity already! We have a criminal organization occupying the WH and throughout the administration.

  33. #33
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Reid hasn’t grasped the concept of what it means to SHRINK the government.

    That concept is quite foreign and confounding to the likes of Reid. In his addled leftist mind government is only meant to grow….to the point where that’s all there will be.

    Government is his true religion.

  34. #34
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:02 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Where is the Republican outrage? Enough polity already! We have a criminal organization occupying the WH and throughout the administration.

    The GOP may have its few seconds soundbite of a critical word or two, then perhaps if needed the obligatory Sternly Worded Letter signed by leadership and a few concerned CONgress members trying to score points with conservatives.

    Nothing more will likely come of it.

  35. #35
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If you really need to get pissed off this morning, read this. The TARP nonsense continues unchecked. Banks (you know, the ones who are pouring piles of cash into Romney, Inc.) continue to operate under Calvin rules (make them up as you go along so you can appear to be winning).

    As with what is going on in Europe, it’s not about actually fixing anything but immunizing the “right people” from the inevitable fallout from failure.

    Everywhere you look, that’s all you find. Rats and cockroaches.

  36. #36
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:29 pm, Truesoldier said:

    At least Reid is finally admiting that the Obama “jobs” bill is nothing more than a way to boost the public sector. Of course this article of top incomes doesn’t help the Dem’s and their plans:

    Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation’s greatest concentration of lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show.

    The U.S. capital has swapped top spots with Silicon Valley, according to recent Census Bureau figures, with the typical household in the Washington metro area earning $84,523 last year. The national median income for 2010 was $50,046.

  37. #37
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:54 am, Pasadena Phil said:
    CNBC is now reporting that the DOE has been caught rewriting previously issued press releases. The crawl reads “DOE rewrites history”.

    I saw that and then I just saw this:

    In November of 2009, in the midst of Solyndra’s downward financial spiral, the Internal Revenue Service issued a ruling that granted special tax favors to the firm and its customers.

  38. #38
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm, peteee said:

    i thought private sector jobs do not cost the government a dime, and public sector workers add to deficits and bloated governments the world over?

  39. #39
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm, mondamay said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am, NavyGal said:

    So Chicken Diddle is crying, “the sky is falling, the sky is falling” again. Maybe he should take a walk under a coconut tree instead of an oak tree.

    Nah, the coconut trees have already been disarmed.

  40. #40
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Why is the Federal government involved in education at all?

  41. #41
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm, letget said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Because of the unions and all the money they give to get those elected that will help them out with their retirement plans?
    L

  42. #42
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    i thought private sector jobs do not cost the government a dime

    Truthfully, private sector jobs do not only not cost grabberment a dime, they provide grabberment many, many dimes worth of revenue through a bevy of different and creative taxes imposed by local all the way up to federal upon on the income private sector jobs create.

  43. #43
    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Why is the Federal government involved in education at all?

    Centralized power and control of the few over the many.

  44. #44
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Truesoldier said:

    The U.S. capital has swapped top spots with Silicon Valley, according to recent Census Bureau figures, with the typical household in the Washington metro area earning $84,523 last year. The national median income for 2010 was $50,046.

    And if you want a real laugh, the defense you’ll get from any Gov-employed Prog is: “Well of course the government pays more to have ‘qualified’ people in Washington! ( Have you seen how expensive it is to live there!? )”

    The other myopic strain they often suffer from is Education Inflation. As many people apply for Gov. jobs as purchase lottery tickets so of the 389 internal applicants for the (1) advancement Opening, yes, there IS quite a bit of competition.

    Where else can you find people w/ Masters sorting files?

  45. #45
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm, Flyoverman said:

    When funds run out “you end up fiscally going off a cliff,” said Iowa Rep. Jeremy Taylor, R-Sioux City, vice chairman of the Iowa House Education Committee. “I don’t think it’s a wise idea for our state to be budgeting based on that one-time money, and I say that as both a legislator and a teacher.

    Even the former Democrat Governor in Iowa agreed via his policies with what Rep. Taylor said. You do not plan based on one time dollars.

    This is simply paying bribes for the next election. We are $15 tillion in debt. There is no $447 billion to spend. I do not care what it is for. NO NEW SPENDING.

  46. #46
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm, cheapseat said:

    Having a Masters in education is very much akin to having a masters in classical art. Infact a masters in classical art probably takes more smarts, as most of the Education curricullum is sociology/psychology, which has No wrong answers.

  47. #47
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm, RedDog said:

    “It’s very clear that private sector jobs have been doing just fine, it’s the public sector jobs where we’ve lost huge numbers, and that’s what this legislation is all about,” Reid said on the Senate floor.”

    This old fool just indicted himself with his own words. There is no “public sector” piece to the economy, only a public sink hole. If anything, we need to lose far more huge numbers of “public sector jobs” while on the way to breaking the Democrat-Government cabal. The present Dem “government” is twice the size it should be to support the needs of commerce and the general social good.

    Government is an expense, a vendor that supplies services at the direct request of the economy. The economy does not exist to serve government and its political lords any more than Gillette exists to cut checks whenever their custodial service decides they want more money. At some point Gilette finds another custodial service. America is now in need of a new custodial service.

  48. #48
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm, RedDog said:

    If the doom-and-gloomers are correct about a final collapse, all I can say is that Democrats and all the other Statists around the country better have a good escape plan. They talk so glibly about a “revolution” and “social justice”, I hope they know what they are asking for because the real workers of America will school them in its true meaning.

  49. #49
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    There is virtually no question that a large and undisciplined public sector will destroy a society – one merely needs to look not only at modern Europe but Europe of Hitler and Stalin.

    There is virtually no question that a large and free private sector will grow a more robust society – one merely needs to look at the USA of much of the 20th century and the emerging giants of ASIA.

  50. #50
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm, Marshall_Will said:And if you want a real laugh, the defense you’ll get from any Gov-employed Prog is: “Well of course the government pays more to have ‘qualified’ people in Washington!

    I always love that excuse. The “qualified” people thing is such a joke. So many of the “qualified” people have never worked outside of government and have no idea how the real world works. This not only makes the problem worse, but it also leads to a bunch of institutionalized bad habits (like expecting a pay raise annually no matter what just to name one).

  51. #51
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:41 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I can say is that Democrats and all the other Statists around the country better have a good escape plan

    YOu can be sure the ones at the top do…however, come the collapse, those useful idiots on the lower rungs are expendable, their usefulness having passed their “best if used by” date, and will be on their own.

  52. #52
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:48 pm, ChapBix said:

    My analysis of this: The pResident and his ilk are stuck on stupid.

  53. #53
    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm, PunditPete said:

    Hey Michelle, lighten up a little on our President. Remember it’s all for the children don’t you know! The teachers unions always have our kids’ education first and foremost, and jobs are always secondary to that.
    And besides, our President has always been an expert on education issues as reported in a Pundit Pete column written in 2008.

    Apparently, the only documented record of administrative accomplishment we have for Mr. Obama concerns his service as Chairman of the Board for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an education grant organization which funded programs in the Chicago schools. After five years and from $50 to $150 million spent under Mr. Obama’s direction, the organization’s own 2003 report concluded that the programs “had little impact on student outcomes” and “little evidence of a school improvement effect.”

    Obama’s experience on that board really prepared him to waste $billions on ineffective (and counter productive) education programs, instead of mere $millions back then.

    Oh and as to your graph, there is one in this article that shows our unemployment is really caused by the Tea Party.

  54. #54
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm, Speakup said:

    Can you say, completely disconnected from reality?
    Sen. Reid shows just how detached from the pain of unemployment, Dems are.
    We can’t public jobs our way out of this recession, either.

    Hey, remember the President’s accusation that the Republicans were willing to put party before the nation?
    Apparently he was exempting the union/Democrat corruption complex.

  55. #55
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm, NavyGal said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm, mondamay said:
    Nah, the coconut trees have already been disarmed de-nutted.

  56. #56
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    RedDog said:

    The present Dem “government” is twice the size it should be to support the needs of commerce and the general social good.

    If this worked so well on the way UP why are Demonrats abandoning this well founded logic on the way down?

    For years all we ever heard about was due to our [then] ever expanding economy mo’ gubmint was simply necessary as a function of order! The SEC their prime example.

    Well fellas?

  57. #57
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm, Collateral Damage said:

    Stupid American people buy into the Jackass-In-Chief’s buffalo chips!!!
    Apparently, the president is going to use public sector financing for his campaign after all. The only problem is that it’s your dollars Jackass is “using” by way of absolute union corruptocratism!!!

  58. #58
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm, rambler said:

    I can’t listen to Reid. I’ve already soaked up enough stupidity for one day. The whole country should not have to suffer because the Nevada voters are keeping him in office till he reaches his expiration date.

  59. #59
    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    The pResident and his ilk are stuck on stupid.

    It may seem so to you. The pResident probably is, given that we have no real proof of his intelligence other than what we are able to see, read and hear of him. Many of his ilk, however, are quite savvy and use the stupidity of those in office to further their own gains in politics and finance by channelling favorable legislation and regulations and having public funds directed their way.

  60. #60
    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:08 pm, granite said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 1:48 pm, ChapBix said:

    My analysis of this: The pResident and his ilk are stuck on stupid.

    Do not believe for a moment that these America-destroyers are not fully aware of what they are doing.
    Whatever they do, they do intentionally – with a definite purpose, a definite goal, in mind.

  61. #61
    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm, rambler said:

    As I move around during my day, I have been noticing for a while a change in the energy of the people I see out and about. If an individual is having a discussion about the current state of things, others join in or just listen. There is a real hunger for the truth and a real need to do something to set the country back to it’s original purpose. It is strange to watch it happen. It is similar to the tea parties except that it flows under the surface. People leave the discussions with a sense of hope that we can fix this.

  62. #62
    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    rsmbler,

    +1

    And I’m noticing it too. Most of the people I come in contact with during the course of the day is over the phone. Even there or especially there it’s a new openess.

    In the early going nobody had any desire to labeled a raaacist so many took a wait and see approach. They repressed their doubts.

    Well not any more! All one need do is drop the most casual of hints this might not be how things were intended and they’re off! It grows by the day.

  63. #63
    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:25 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Re pic with F:

    Obowmao: Flawless!

  64. #64
    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm, Speakup said:
    Can you say, completely disconnected from reality?
    Sen. Reid shows just how detached from the pain of unemployment, Dems are.
    We can’t public jobs our way out of this recession, either.

    They’re sure trying like hell.

  65. #65
    On October 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm, drfredc said:

    Go figure — There’s a general lack of interest in promoting private sector prosperity by public workers and politicians who have gold plated defined benefit pensions with a taxpayer guaranteed bailout should money not be there to support their pensions.

    Their defined contribution pension systems makes them generally insensitive in to private sector prosperity while also promoting them to further build up their Privileged Class status, income and benefits.

    Outlaw Defined Benefit plans and require full timely evolution to defined contribution pensions that rely upon promoting private sector prosperity (and the general welfare of all) and there will be a quick change in attitudes of both workers and politicians to promote private sector prosperity with low taxes and regulations. Most anything else is just a bandaid on a growing cancer.

  66. #66
    On October 19th, 2011 at 4:56 pm, stillontheroad said:

    The Bozo in the O’Bozo regime just never stops – I want to gag every time one of these vermin speaks.

  67. #67
    On October 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm, Hiraghm said:

    …if at first you don’t succeed, try something else…

    Have you tried selling this crap to Thomas Edison?

  68. #68
    On October 19th, 2011 at 6:28 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated failures. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
    Calvin Coolidge

    Calvin Coolidge > Suzuki

  69. #69
    On October 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm, DonkeyHoatie said:

    Libs rely upon the tact of deciding for themselves what other people think and want.

    If citizens really wanted more government employees, they would be willing to pay for more government employees.

    Since so many people across the entire income spectrum are against paying more taxes, then perhaps, they don’t WANT more government employees.

    But those are the people who are too stupid to know what they really want, and need Daddy Obama and Uncle Joe to tell them what they really want.

  70. #70
    On October 19th, 2011 at 6:59 pm, Mister P said:

    When the government owns all jobs, we have communism. Does anyone doubt that is the end game?

  71. #71
    On October 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm, swede said:

    If at first you don’t suceed send Bozo Joe on a bus tour telling folks the economy is great and defecation is not malodorous.

  72. #72
    On October 19th, 2011 at 10:18 pm, stuckinIL4now said:

    This just gets more and more Reidiculous.

    From the Hill story link “Reid’s priorities laid bare” in the Update above:

    Paragraph 2, Harry Reid:
    “It’s very clear that private-sector jobs have been doing just fine; it’s the public sector jobs where we’ve lost huge numbers”

    Paragraph 8, spokesman for Sen. Reid:
    “Senator Reid believes that Congress must work to spur job-creation in the private sector”

    So, Dimbecile Harry, which is it? Public or private?

    Sen. Reidiculous also said “a majority of people polled support the bill.” That’s a majority of people polled, not a majority of people.

    Who’d they poll? The DNC? The DCCC? Dims in the Senate? Dims in the House? Reid&Pelosi? Dodd-Frank? Wasserman-Schultz? The Occupiers? George Soros? Racky and Mooch?

  73. #73
    On October 19th, 2011 at 11:17 pm, BigWolf said:

    Hurry up people of Nevada, embalm him already. The advanced case of rot which has started between Reid’s ears is smelling up the political landscape. His screed is akin to expecting a servant to plead for more beatings.

    Why did prior generations receive a better education in one-room schoolhouses than modern “education” victims. History, mathematics, chemistry, physics and classical literature are utterly foreign subjects to many of the Occupiers and the like. A little real world learning seems to inoculate against Democrat stupidity.

  74. #74
    On October 20th, 2011 at 1:28 am, BK said:

    Translating Harry Reid’s statement from Leftese to English:

    “Who cares about non-cronies?”

  75. #75
    On October 20th, 2011 at 8:44 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    True to Alinsky form

    I take it that most people reading this already know this,
    but for those who don’t, that picture at the top of the post is
    a picture of Obama Teaching Alinsky Methods

  76. #76
    On October 20th, 2011 at 9:28 am, Roland said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 6:20 pm, Hiraghm said:

    …if at first you don’t succeed, try something else…

    Have you tried selling this crap to Thomas Edison?

    Sell it to Edison? Edison got the patent.

    There is a huge difference between “if at first you don’t succeed, try something else” and “if at first you don’t succeed, give up.”

  77. #77
    On October 20th, 2011 at 9:35 am, CO_Engineer said:

    What really bothers me is the insatiable greed that “Big Education” has for the taxpayer’s money. Here in Colorado there is at least one bill to raise education money EVERY ELECTION. Even this year, there is a bill to raise the CO sales tax “temporarily”, to make up for reduced revenues due to the recession (can’t tighten their belts like regular folks- let’s just take even more from the taxpayer that is already hurting). In 2010 there was a bill to “replace the cuts”- I never heard about any cuts, but they wanted more money to replace them. We even voted in a state constitutional amendment to put the school spending on automatic increases a couple years back- which squeeezed out other interest groups funds, so they had to raise taxes to cover them. On and on and on- I am waiting for the school administrator that is honest enough to state that they want it all, because this nickel-and-diming is getting old.
    Our kids even came home with election literature from their teachers, all in favor of increases (imagine that). We were blessed with some awesome teachers at our schools, but the whole education establishment is rotten to the core.

  78. #78
    On October 20th, 2011 at 9:53 am, Roland said:

    but the whole education establishment is rotten to the core.

    It has been rotten for a very long time. The only solution is competition. The only solution is vouchers.

    We can argue until we are blue in the face about the deficits and illegal immigration and nationalized medical care and carbon taxes and Big Government in general, but as long as Big Government has a monopoly on education – as long as government employees are teaching our children – we are just shouting at the wind.

  79. #79
    On October 20th, 2011 at 10:12 am, wckelly60 said:

    I wonder if anyone has every investigated Nevada for voter fraud? I’ve met a number of Nevadans in my travels and to a man they loathe Harry Reid.

  80. #80
    On October 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    wckelly60,
    And…

    While public polling generally gave a good projection of what to expect around the country in Election 2010, that was not the case in Nevada.

    I think that fraud, in large part illegal aliens voting for Reid, played a HUGE role in Reid’s “re-election”.

    The Demonrats knew that they could not take the hit of their Senate Majority Leader losing to a Tea Party conservative. They had to ensure that Reid won, “by any means necessary”.

  81. #81
    On October 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am, sbw999 said:

    Hey Harry…you are an evil, serpentine bold-faced LIAR.

  82. #82
    On October 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am, DonkeyHoatie said:

    On October 20th, 2011 at 9:35 am, CO_Engineer said:

    …but the whole education establishment is rotten to the core.

    The system has been bastardized by the partnership between teacher unions and the state and federal bureaucracies.

    The bureaucrats put policies and regulations in place that give ultimate power to the unions, and in turn, the unions ensure that the bureaucrats have lots of money.

    If they unions start getting resistance from any part of the populus, they either coerce the bureaucracy to crush the opposition, or they go on strike and hold the children as hostages.

    I know a lot of good teachers here in Kalifornia who loathe the union, but are required to be members if they want to work here.

    It truly is the absolute worst parts of thug racketeering and mobster extortion.

  83. #83
    On October 20th, 2011 at 12:13 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Hey,

    Did any of you know that the Obama admin deported almost 400,000 illegals last year?

    Does that make him an extreme left socialist?

    He had more illegals deported than Bush.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-administration-deports-nearly-400-000-people-record-220008688.html

  84. #84
    On October 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm, Hiraghm said:

    On October 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm, rambler said:
    People leave the discussions with a sense of hope that we can fix this.

    I can’t find the quote online, and my copy of “The Mote in God’s Eye” is packed away, but roughly, a Motie who has gone “Crazy Eddy” said of humans:

    They solve problems. Always.

    I like that. It gives me hope. I also believe in singing horses. If I didn’t, I’d probably suicide tomorrow.

    “Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king’s favorite horse to sing hymns.”

    “The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. ‘You will not succeed,‘ they told him. ‘No one can.’

    To which the thief replied, ‘I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.‘”

  85. #85
    On October 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm, BK said:

    Harry Reid says “MORE MONEY FOR CRONIES NOW!!!!”

  86. #86
    On October 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm, J-Bone said:

    I agree with him. Private sector people are stupid losers. Have you seen the discrepancy in pay between the two? It’s a world of difference. Imagine how awesome are economy would hum along if we all had public sector jobs. All it would take would be for fat-cats to give up their easy money, and this country would be on top again. It took many, many years, but I’ve finally seen the light, so I’m switching party affiliation…..AGAIN, and this time I’m firmly planted. In retrospect, I guess my world view was dead on accurate when I was an eighteen-year-old pot-head. Who’d o’ figured??

  87. #87
    On October 20th, 2011 at 3:36 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The OWSies are really going to like this. Senate to offer bill granting resident visas to wealthy foreigners who buy homes in US for $500,000 or more.

    It’s official. Being an American is all about dollars, not principles or way of life. We are just a generic place to be bought and sold for no other reason than members of the cultural elite need money.

  88. #88
    On October 20th, 2011 at 4:56 pm, CO_Engineer said:

    IlovemyAfricancountry said:

    Hey,
    Did any of you know that the Obama admin deported almost 400,000 illegals last year?
    Does that make him an extreme left socialist?
    He had more illegals deported than Bush.

    Yeah, heard it- even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while, and while I applaud Obozos efforts, when you are talking about 10′s of millions of illegals: 400,000 is a drop in the bucket. As far as comparisons to Bush- I don’t believe anyone here held up Bush as a border zealot. His lax philosphy on border security and amnesty has been well villified on this and other conservative blogs. Which brings up the counterpoint: If you don’t believe in defending our borders, and Bush didn’t actually believe in defending our borders, does that make you a Bush supporter?

  89. #89
    On October 20th, 2011 at 6:26 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Senate to offer bill granting resident visas to wealthy foreigners who buy homes in US for $500,000 or more.

    Wonderful! That’ll push more citizens out of the market in desirable areas as those foreigners drive up home prices. And, while the Senate is at it might as well offer them citizenship for, oh, lets say, $100,000 more, as long as they’ve made the investment to live here.

    What a country!

  90. #90
    On October 20th, 2011 at 6:27 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    when you are talking about 10′s of millions of illegals: 400,000 is a drop in the bucket.

    Half of them were probably Mexicans who were back in their former neighborhoods here within a week of deportation.

  91. #91
    On October 20th, 2011 at 6:34 pm, ChapBix said:

    #59. On October 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    #60. On October 19th, 2011 at 3:08 pm, granite said:

    I stand corrected. You are so right about their doing this intentionally. Would I be on more solid ground for saying that many who vote for this wrecking crew are stuck on stupid?

  92. #92
    On October 20th, 2011 at 10:01 pm, Dasher said:

    Why is the federal government spending a nickel on teacher jobs which are state or local jobs. The federal government should get out of meddling in state affairs. The real reason is campaign kick-backs from unions. There is not other reason.

  93. #93
    On October 20th, 2011 at 10:32 pm, Blackstone said:

    On October 20th, 2011 at 9:53 am, Roland said:

    The only solution is vouchers.

    Vouchers will simply become a vehicle for government control over private schools (look at what federal aid has done to higher education if you don’t believe me).

    The only solution is complete separation of school and state. The only interim solution is devolution to the most local level possible.

  94. #94
    On October 21st, 2011 at 12:54 am, Roland said:

    The only interim solution is devolution to the most local level possible.

    Yes. And vouchers at that most local level possible. Otherwise the children are still being taught only by government employees, even if they are local government employees.

    So the kids will be getting taught about the virtue of government employees and the dastardliness of private enterprise every day they are in school. It’s what happens naturally.

    There should be no government monopoly. Otherwise we will quickly slide right back to where we are.

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