Shredding Kathleen Sebelius

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 28, 2011 10:03 AM


Culture of Corruption…Mwah!

For the past four years, I’ve spotlighted the fight to bring Planned Parenthood’s predators to justice in Kansas. In October 2007, then-AG Phill Kline filed a 107-count criminal complaint against the PP racket, with counts ranging from falsifying documents to performing illegal late-term abortions. In February of this year, I noted the prolonged witch hunt against Kline — which blew up in the radical abortion lobby’s face. Today’s syndicated column scrutinizes the overseer role Obama HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has played throughout the PP/Kansas health bureaucracy’s stonewalling of the truth. See Life News and Planned Parenthood Corruption for background and documents.

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Shredding Kathleen Sebelius
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

If a private health insurer had engaged in the kind of criminal obstruction that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has been tied to in her home state of Kansas, it would be a federal case. Instead, it’s a non-story in the Washington press. Nothing to see here. Move along.

On Monday, a district judge in the Sunflower State suspended court proceedings in a high-profile criminal case against the abortion racketeers of Planned Parenthood. World Magazine, a Christian news publication, reported on new bombshell court filings showing that Kansas health officials “shredded documents related to felony charges the abortion giant faces.” World Magazine reported: “The health department failed to disclose that fact for six years, until it was forced to do so in the current felony case over whether it manufactured client records.”

The records are at the heart of the fraud case against Planned Parenthood. Kansas health bureaucrats now shrug that the destruction of these key documents — which they sheepishly admitted had “certain idiosyncrasies” — was “routine.” Who oversaw the agency accused of destroying the evidence six years ago? Sebelius.

As governor of Kansas, Sebelius fought transparency motions in the proceedings tooth and nail for years. Prosecutors allege a long-running heinous cover-up to manufacture false records of patients who had late-term abortions — and to whitewash Planned Parenthood’s systemic failures to report child rape.

Former GOP state Attorney General Phill Kline’s investigation turned up massive discrepancies in reported child rape statistics compared to Planned Parenthood and the late late-term abortionist George Tiller’s bogus claims. Planned Parenthood of Overland Park and Tiller together performed abortions on 166 girls aged 14 and under and only reported one each to authorities. So, 164 cases of underage rape or statutory rape went unreported and were not investigated by authorities.

Where are Joe Biden to decry actual rape atrocities and Nancy Pelosi to decry dire hazards to women’s health when we need them?

A Kansas district judge found probable cause of criminality in the abortion providers’ records; another district judge found probable cause to believe Planned Parenthood committed 107 criminal acts. Sebelius’ response? A bloody ideological soul mate of Tiller’s, she launched a vengeful witch-hunt against Kline. The state ethics board accused him of lying. The left-wing state Supreme Court Sebelius appointed stymied Kline’s subpoenas and appeals.

Kline was cleared of all ethics violations. In fact, for 20 full months, the state’s disciplinary board for lawyers suppressed an internal investigative report concluding there was zero probable cause to justify the ethics complaints.

Where there’s obstructionist smoke, there’s corruption fire. Under Sebelius’ watch as governor, an inspector general also reported that her appointed health policy board had “applied pressure to alter an audit report, restricted access to legal advice and threatened to fire her for meeting independently with legislators,” according to the Topeka Capital-Journal.

Entirely fitting, of course. The war on whistleblowers and inspectors general has been a hallmark of the current White House. And the radically pro-abortion rights Sebelius has ruled ruthlessly from her Beltway perch: policing citizen critics of Obamacare through a taxpayer-funded Internet snitch brigade; threatening private companies and insurers who have increased rates to cope with Obamacare coverage mandates; lashing out at newspapers who dare report on the costly consequences of the federal law.

As she bullies private companies to meet discriminatory and arbitrary disclosure demands, Sebelius has yet to be held accountable for overseeing state government agencies that conspired to hide the deadly truth about the Big Government/Big Abortion alliance from taxpayers.

Like her boss in Washington, Sebelius’ political playbook has a single page: Destroy the messenger.

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  1. #101
    On October 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm, spaceycakes said:

    You people are too funny.

    thanks. I’ll be here all week; try the veal–

    oh wait, it’ll eventually get to you, middleofthecentipede

  2. #102
    On October 28th, 2011 at 5:30 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Urkel and Sebaceous both look like a couple of dogs smelling each others asses.

    “Hey. You eat anything tasty lately?”

  3. #103
    On October 28th, 2011 at 6:07 pm, fgmorley said:

    So are we all done wishing something, just something could be done about big bad Obama, and his liberal press cronies, and his minions in finance?

    You people are whiners and haven’t been able to get an inch toward getting this fu__ Up out of office, and you really don’t seem to be able to field any decent candidate…just like last election, and Bob Dole.

    You should probably realize by now that you have lost, but I know that won’t happen. Keep waving the flag that the media laughs at. Keep trying to point out the Constitution and its basic philosophy. but you are fighting a losing battle against the 60 years of indoctrination that has taken place right in front of your noses…the educational system.

  4. #104
    On October 28th, 2011 at 6:31 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    A good catholic girl she is not….

  5. #105
    On October 28th, 2011 at 6:55 pm, right_on said:

    A good catholic girl she is not….

    Did you mean to say “a NICE Catholic girl?” There is a difference…

  6. #106
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:03 pm, ReaganPatriot said:

    I didn’t vote for Kathleen Sebelius for any Kansas position she ran for…ever! I would love to see her run out of Washington, but really don’t want her back in the Sunflower State! Phill Kline’s work here in Kansas lives on in the hearts of those who love justice and protect the unborn. And Kathleen and George can spend eternity screaming together in some really hot corner of the lake of fire. That about covers it! (-:

  7. #107
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:12 pm, 123upnorth said:

    If you want to combat abortions, vote Ron Paul 2012. Not because he is pro-life, but because he is for small government. A small government can’t get involved in tertiary things like abortion clinics.

  8. #108
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm, 123upnorth said:

    You people are whiners and haven’t been able to get an inch toward getting this fu__ Up out of office, and you really don’t seem to be able to field any decent candidate…just like last election, and Bob Dole.

    May I suggest we call Ron Paul.

  9. #109
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm, Roland said:

    May Kathleen Sebelius rot in hell, alone, tormented forever, for the misery and destruction of innocent life she has caused without remorse or repentance.

    It satisfies both the darkness within us and our sense of fair play to think deeply evil people will suffer terribly in the afterlife, but it does not work that way.

    We all go to the grave. God will save those who love him. The rest will just stay dead.

    Sadly, most people cannot begin to understand the magnificence of salvation or how terrible it would be to miss it, so religions tend to dwell on punishment.

  10. #110
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:35 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I doubt God exists. There is to much evil and unfairness in the world. If God can control the evil and unfairness, but doesn’t, then he is not worthy of my worship.

  11. #111
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:37 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I have prayed to God before to ask him for assistance in fixing my battle with health problems – mainly my inability to breathe through my nose. It has caused me so many setbacks – relationships, employment etc., I can’t begin to describe the hardship. Anyways, he has never answered my request for help.

  12. #112
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:51 pm, yaymm said:

    Sebelius is just another of the appointees Obama’s handlers have picked for him who represent corruption in the highest levels of government.

    By the time he leaves office, many more of his picks will have been tarred with the corruption brush. They know it’s coming down the track and are trying to cover their backsides. Regretably, it may just work.

    Fgmorley, #103, you nailed it with your last paragraph. We are reaping what we have sown by allowing our education system to pollute the minds of generations of kids. The OWS is a fine example.

    I am not, however, willing to give up the fight to regain what we had. It may be futile, but it’s a last ditch effort to save the Country for our young grandkids. 2012 may be our last chance.

  13. #113
    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    123upnorth:

    my inability to breathe through my nose.

    Hey, moron! Go see an ENT doctor (that’s Ear, Nose and Throat.) Wait…. THEY PROBABLY DON’T HAVE THOSE IN CANADA! So, come down to the USA and see one. You probably have polyps, a deviated septum or a nasty case of sinus infection. But since it takes forever to see a doc up there, you’re suffering unnecessarily. A preview of the wonders of Obamacare, if it’s not repealed next year.
    And stop blaming God for your crappy healthcare system and your inability to think clearly because all the wacky weed you smoke.

  14. #114
    On October 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm, Roland said:

    There is to much evil and unfairness in the world. If God can control the evil and unfairness, but doesn’t, then he is not worthy of my worship.

    God cannot control the evil and unfairness. Religious people usually find themselves unable to accept the words “He cannot” about anything about God, but it is true in this case.

    Perhaps your approach to understanding God is wrong. Do not anthropomorphize him. Think of it this way: What do you see that is worthy of worship, or at least some serious humility and awe? Look for something that has nothing to do with power in the earthly realm.

    Perhaps you can see an aspect of God this way. For instance, Natural Law is an aspect of God.

    Build up from there, and don’t let what you think is religious doctrine get in the way of your understanding.

    BTW, I know how debilitating being unable to breathe through your nose can be. It causes all kinds of spin-off problems. Have you gotten a medical diagnosis and treatment?

  15. #115
    On October 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm, 1ConcernedMom said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:35 pm, 123upnorth said:
    I doubt God exists. There is to much evil and unfairness in the world. If God can control the evil and unfairness, but doesn’t, then he is not worthy of my worship.

    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:37 pm, 123upnorth said:
    I have prayed to God before to ask him for assistance in fixing my battle with health problems – mainly my inability to breathe through my nose. It has caused me so many setbacks – relationships, employment etc., I can’t begin to describe the hardship. Anyways, he has never answered my request for help.

    God does exist. He allows us to choose whether or not to receive and follow Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Sin entered this world thru Adam and Eve. God is in control, and sometimes He intervenes, but not always. How can we expect His help when so many of us have turned our backs on Him and have remained silent, allowing others to succeed in the efforts to gradually remove Him from the public square?

    Sin is what separated us from God. Jesus’ dying for our sins, all of our sins, on the cross is what bridges the chasm between us and God. Evil and unfairness exist because of the sin in this world. God does not always answer our prayers. Sometimes what we ask for is not what’s best for us. Other times he will grant our requests, but not necessarily right away.

    Satan is the great deceiver, and I can’t help but think that he is using your health issues to make you doubt God, therefore preventing you from having a close walk with the Lord.

    Please don’t doubt that God exists. Continue praying, read the Bible, and attend a church where the Bible is preached, not social justice or other false doctrines. Reach out to the Lord. You may not feel His presence, but He is there.

    I will be praying for you that God will reveal Himself to you so that you no longer doubt He exists. I will also pray for your health.

  16. #116
    On October 28th, 2011 at 8:55 pm, 1ConcernedMom said:

    When an earlier comment was made regarding Obama not wanting his daughters punished with a baby, it made me think of an interesting lesson we taught the children at Vacation Bible School over the summer.

    The world says hate your enemies, but Jesus says love your enemies. (Matthew 5:43-44)

    The world says “We’re in charge,” but Jesus says He is in charge. (Mark 11:27-33)

    The world says CHILDREN ARE A BOTHER, but Jesus says CHILDREN ARE PRECIOUS. (Mark 10:13-16)

    The world says look out for yourself, but Jesus says look out for others. (Matthew 7:12)

    The world says “Get rich! Money is the goal,” but Jesus says, “Serve God! Money is not the goal.” (Matthew 6:24)

    The world says you have to be good enough to get to heaven, but Jesus says you can never be good enough to get to heaven, you must believe in Me. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

  17. #117
    On October 28th, 2011 at 9:30 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:54 am, conservative hispanic said:

    Baby Boomers. People who want to live in perpetual adolescence, doing whatever they want, and not face ANY consequences for their actions. Child rape and murder are just two more manifestations of this illness. Drug use, indiscriminate sex with multiple partners, abortion, infidelity, divorce, child abandonment, no ethics in business and in life, they’re all manifestations of the mental illness that infects that generation.

    I object to your generalization of Baby Boomers with extreme prejudice!

    I happen to be a Baby Boomer with the following exceptions to your descriptions of said Boomers.
    First, I DO NOT want to live in perpetual adolescence doing whatever I want and not face ANY consequences for my actions. I have made mistakes in my life and HAVE paid the consequences.

    Secondly, I have NOT participated in child rape or murder and take that accusation as slander and defamation that Phil keeps touting. Yes, I used drugs, had sex with DIFFERENT partners (not indiscrimate nor with multiple partners). I have never participated in nor condoned abortion. Yes, infidelity and divorce are on my ‘rap’ sheet. Not having children absolves me from child abandonment. I DO, in fact, practice ethical behavior in my business and life.

    Point to someone (other than Jesus Christ) that has roamed this earth and is a perfect human being. I also don’t consider myself as being mentally ill.

    You shouldn’t paint a whole generation with such a broad brush. That’s no way to win friends and influence people.

    Your credibility with me has taken a sharp nose dive with your frivolous statements. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  18. #118
    On October 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    That God doesn’t do exactly what I want, when I want, every time I want, does not mean that God does not exist. It means we don’t control God and he does not answer to our every whim.

    We all bear burdens in this life. That is our lot. God provides us the strength to persevere through life’s trials and not necessarily deliverance from life’s trials.

  19. #119
    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:02 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 7:35 pm, 123upnorth said:
    I doubt God exists. There is to much evil and unfairness in the world. If God can control the evil and unfairness, but doesn’t, then he is not worthy of my worship.

    An atheist has to believe in God in order to deny that He exists. Otherwise, what would be the purpose of denying the existence of a non-existent entity?

    God doesn’t micro manage. Ever heard of ‘free will’?

    Who or what do you think causes everything around you to be as it is?

    Who or what causes the birth of a child with all the things it needs to grow into a functioning entity. (Disregard it’s upbringing or lack of training in the ways of this life. Right and wrong aren’t innate, they are a taught trait.) The child, for the most part, comes equipped with all five senses,fingers to feel, eyes to see, a tongue to taste, ears to hear, and a nose to smell. Who gave the child those abilities? The eyes are positioned to be able to see what is going into the mouth, the nose is positioned to sample the aroma of the morsel going into the mouth, the tastebuds on the tongue lets the child determine whether or not the morsel is pleasurable. Who had the insight to plan the positioning of those three senses for the pleasure and nutrition of the child? Did evolution do all that? Do you not think there is something greater than us all that causes evolution to take place (assuming you are an evolutionist)

    Try to look into the past and beyond the beginning of all things. Something/someone had to get the ball rolling. Take a look around at nature and ask yourself who or what keeps all this in motion on a regular basis.

    Like Beck says, question with boldness even the existence of God. IMHO, you have to believe in order to deny His existence. But saying all that, believe what you will. The closer you get to realizing your mortality, the more you need to have something/someone to hold on to. I’m not preaching, just giving you things to ponder.

  20. #120
    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Whirled Peas:

    I’m sorry you feel offended. But apparently the shoe (somewhat) fits. Your generation has put this country on a nose dive from which it may not recover. When I pointed out all the flaws of boomers, I didn’t expect that everybody would have all flaws.
    I’m not perfect; I’m far from it. Neither are most, if not all, humans. But WAY TOO MANY of your generation decided early on that this was a bad country, a bad society and that they would do whatever it took to bring it down. And since this was a bad country, they didn’t owe any allegiance to its morals, norms of conduct, laws, religious traditions or history.
    That’s why drugs became so prevalent, casual sex became rampant, STDs incredibly common, abortion became legal, all references to a God(of any religion) have been fanatically and ruthlessly exponged from the public square, infidelity and promiscuity celebrated, child abuse and abandonment have become epidemic.

    We went from the Greatest Generation to the Sh*****st Generation in less than 30 years. Pathetic. I wouldn’t be proud to call myself a Boomer. I’d be embarrased.

    This is the greatest country on God’s green Earth. It’s a shame so many of you don’t realize it. Only when it’s gone you’ll realize the error of your ways, but it’ll be too late. You’ll have ruined it for everybody, present AND future.

  21. #121
    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:51 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    So because I’m not perfect, I’m scum of the earth because of the year I was born.

    I’m guilty and convicted by association.

    The ‘shoe somewhat fits’ everyone that walks the planet. I take it you don’t walk on water but only your ankles get wet. Is that the case?

    If my generation screwed the country up so bad, what did your generation do to attempt a repair of the damage?

    When I was overseas facing down the commies YOUR generation let the bastards sneak into the government and education system. How did that happen? You proud of YOUR generation?

    I spent 23 years of my life defending this country and Constitution against foreign enemies while YOUR generation stood down on the DOMESTIC enemies.

    Your analogy of going from the Greatest to Sh!ttyest generation has NOTHING to do with me. I did MY part and all the ails you complain about is down to people too complacent to pay attention to what is/was going on.

    Your hands aren’t clean. What have you done to remedy your neglect of the homefront?

  22. #122
    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Whirled Peas:

    I’m not ashamed of myself, or my strong opinions. You don’t like the fact I consider Boomers well below the standard that our ancestors set for us? TOO BAD. The proof is in the pudding: 70% of the people think the country is headed in the wrong direction. To me, Boomers have betrayed the essence of America: that every generation would build on the success of the previous ones, and leave A BETTER COUNTRY FOR THE NEXT ONE.
    Your generation has done, is doing,and if allowed will continue to do enormous damage to the social, political and economical fabric of the country. Doesn’y matter if the people are Ds or Rs, they’re all doing it.
    That’s my opinion, and I’m sticking to it, unless you prove me wrong, in which case I’ll apologize. BUT I DOUBT YOU WILL.

  23. #123
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:16 pm, Whirled Peas said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Again, what have you done? I don’t owe anyone an apology least of all you. My God and I will sort out any apology I owe Him.

    If you haven’t made a difference, you are part of the problem as well. The “ME” generation isn’t anything to crow about and that’s the legacy of the Boomer generation. Saying that, I don’t remember saying I was PROUD of being boomer. That was an erroneous assumption on your part and you know what they say about ASS-U-ME don’t you?

    I guess the generation that produced the spawn known as Woodstock on Wall Street has to be from the “ME” generation. So which one of those groups do you belong in? The self indulgent “ME” generation or the entitlement “give me what I want or I’ll burn the place down” generation.

    I have an idea…. why don’t you and your generation don the brown shirts and jackboots and hunt down the boomers and herd us into concentration camps?

    You’ll have a hard time with me though. I WON’T go silently into the night. Come prepared.

  24. #124
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:36 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Whirled Peas:

    -I never said YOU are the scum of the Earth, it’s your generation that’s full of S***. Apparently, you’re one of the few sane ones.
    -I don’t walk on water; usually, I sink in the sand up to my ankles when I go to the beach.
    -It’s tough to change the momentum of the country when you follow 75 million morons determined to screw the country for everybody and we’re far less. I do what I can, starting with my family. Mixed success, but I’m not giving up
    -No, I’m not proud of my generation. Too many of us followed the Boomers and have amplified many of their errors, and are making things worse, not better.
    Many of the OWS idiots have boomer parents, and grew up hearing about the 60s, and how cool was to defy “the pigs”, “the establishment”, “the man”, marching to stop the war, etc.
    -I thank you for your service. However, it was boomers who spat on our soldiers returning from Vietnam, called them “babykillers”, who waved VC and North Vietnamese flags on our streets during the so-called “peace” demonstrations, and who openly rooted against THEIR OWN COUNTRY. In the past, they would all have been sent to jail for a long time or executed as traitors.
    -My generation didn’t allow any Commies to infiltrate the government and the education system. That started to happen before either one of us was born. But it was your generation that started to drink the Kool-Aid they served (and way too many of mine are still doing it.)

    - You have done your part, and I thank you for it. Unfortunately, you’re one of the few in your generation that has done so.

  25. #125
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:41 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    We are the generation that was sent off to fight a war that no one ever wanted to win. 58,000 came back in body bags. We endured LBJ, endured Carter, restored our strength, won the Cold War and finished our time defeating the 4th largest land army on earth losing only 376 men. We learned our lessons and handed off the finest Army the world has ever seen.

    We’ve been called every vile thing I can think of for forty years. What in the Hotel do you think you can say about us that some dirt bag hasn’t said already?

    Don’t mean nuthin. Still in the fight.

  26. #126
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    You have done your part, and I thank you for it.

    No, we are still doing our part. It’s what you do. You keep the faith.

    We have learned to do what we need to do without anyone’s thanks. So we can do without yours and everyone else’s.

  27. #127
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:47 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Whirled Peas:

    I’m part of the “Leave Me Alone, I Can Take Better Care Of Myself Than You Can, Go Away Big Govenment!!!!” Generation.

    Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, they can all shove them where the sun don’t shine. Just defend the country and take care of the courts and the first responders. The rest is superfluous garbage. Pay the debt and reduce government to what it was at the Founding. Nothing more.

  28. #128
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:50 pm, Flyoverman said:

    However, it was boomers who spat on our soldiers returning from Vietnam, called them “babykillers”, who waved VC and North Vietnamese flags on our streets during the so-called “peace” demonstrations, and who openly rooted against THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    One final comment hot shot…..

    Do you think for one minute my fight and Whirled Peas fight with those people is over? Do you think we have packed it in, surrendered, given up?

    That fight is over when we are dead.

  29. #129
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:52 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Flyoverman:

    You also gave us Clinton, Bush and Obama. Thanks a lot!!

  30. #130
    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:59 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Flyoverman #128:

    Good for you. But it’s been boomers who have fostered the worst divisions in this country since the Civil War, so much so that many people think this country is headed to a second civil war. I hope I don’t see it happen.

  31. #131
    On October 29th, 2011 at 12:03 am, rocketman said:

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    HI 123UP_NORTH. I’m sorry to hear of your breathing problems. I hope a good EN&T doctor can help you with them.
    ***
    As far as asking (praying to God) for help–and not getting any yet. We can only ask–as my deceased Dad said, “Man proposes–and God disposes”. There are some Bible lessons that teach us to keep asking–sometimes we finally wear Him out and He acts!
    ***
    I saw a case of sudden healing from God in my house about 20 years ago. My younger son was 12 at the time. He had a bad case of strep throat. After this illness was cured he developed swollen ankles and was unable to walk from the pain.
    ***
    We took him to our family doctor–who sent us to a specialist. He sent us to labs for X-rays and lab tests–the diagnosis was juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. I had to carry him from the couch to our bathroom. From our house to the car. Around the various offices and labs. He could not stand or walk at all due to the pain.
    ***
    The doctors gave him some medicines–which didn’t help at all. He was in this condition for 2 weeks. The docs didn’t give us much hope for improvement. I had visions of him in a wheelchair or on crutches for the rest of his life.
    ***
    My wife and a group of people from her evangelical church came to our house and prayed for him for an hour. Then my wife told him to stand up and walk–that God had healed him. And when she pulled him off the couch and to his feet–he did walk without pain! I had carried him to the bathroom half an hour earlier–he couldn’t stand the pain then. He is a doctor now, and never had any more problems.
    ***
    Keep praying–God listens. And He may act if the doctors can’t do any good. I will start praying for your health, and hope that other good Christians and Jews on this site will do the same. As many of us are doing for Marizela’s safe return to her family.
    ***
    Regards, John Bibb
    ***

  32. #132
    On October 29th, 2011 at 12:05 am, conservative hispanic said:

    Flyoverman:

    Please read the last paragraph of my post #120.

  33. #133
    On October 29th, 2011 at 8:31 am, Flyoverman said:

    On October 28th, 2011 at 11:52 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    You also gave us Clinton, Bush and Obama. Thanks a lot!!

    I’ll take the blame. Sure.

    Based on your standards I will go spit on my parents graves, because 58,000 people from my generation died, because they failed to kill all the communists. I’ll blame tem for no AIDS cure while I am at it. Let’s see what else? Oh Global Warming, let’s do that one.

    Bluntly, you are a pathetic whiner who can’t deal with the world we inherited.

    If we are such failures don’t use the jet airliners, cell phones, broadband connectivity, and other things invented by people our age. You know, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc.

  34. #134
    On October 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am, Whirled Peas said:

    Yeah, I remember my walk through San Fran International airport returning from SE Asia.

    Again, I ask and don’t receive an answer as to what you have done to remedy the problem. Stereotyping isn’t the answer. Blame game isn’t the answer either. Your generation or your spawn’s generation has given us what we now endure. Thanks a lot!

    And unless something short of a miracle happened, your predecessors were boomers too. Go rant your bigotry to them.

  35. #135
    On October 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am, TigerLady said:

    We all go to the grave. God will save those who love him. The rest will just stay dead.

    Roland, I don’t know what bible you’re reading but mine doesn’t say anywhere that those who “love” God are saved and the rest stay dead. It’s very clear that Jesus Christ is the Way to be with God and those who do not believe will be away from God. That’s described a hell in my bible.

  36. #136
    On October 29th, 2011 at 11:10 am, RedDog said:

    Look at the hole the Swedes have dug themselves into.

    One-third of Malmo’s population is foreign-born. Another 10 percent are of a different nationality. The biggest influx these days is from the Muslim world. Many of them are very traditional– a small group is quite extreme.

    Sweden has a population of 9 million — of those, 1.4 million are immigrants. Approximately 100,000 pour in each year. Ilmar Reepalu thinks that’s a good thing.

    “Sweden needs lots of immigrants,” he says, “because otherwise we can’t keep up our welfare system. We, as most parts of Europe, have too few people. Within the coming 20 years, we will have a lack of labor force, so we need more people coming to Sweden. We don’t have enough kids from ourselves.”

    Sweden has probably the most generous immigration, asylum and welfare policies in the world.

    Some natives have had it with this bottomless funding pit. For the first time last year, voters elected the far right anti-immigration Sweden Democrats—giving them a handful of seats in Parliament.

    MP Kent Ekeroth disputes the argument that immigration keeps Sweden’s welfare system afloat.

    “What kind of immigrants do we take in? It’s people from Somalia who have done nothing but herd sheep their whole life and we expect them to benefit our society? It’s ridiculous.”

  37. #137
    On October 29th, 2011 at 11:30 am, conservative hispanic said:

    Flyoverman & Whirled Peas:

    Wow, did I touched a nerve!

    But as they say:” The lady dost protest too much.”

    Go ahead, get mad at me, shoot the messenger, but the judgement of history is upon your generation: you inherited a prosperous, vibrant country. You’re leaving it in shambles.

    WP: I did answer your question. Apparently, you didn’t bother to read my answer.

    Flyoverman: Pathetic whiner? Man, I see the mess that boomers have made of the country, and despair when I realize that me, my children, and possibly grandchildren will be picking up the pieces of the disaster you’ve made. Sorry if I have a moment of doubt (even Jesus had one.) And thanks a lot for AIDS, too!

    The country is headed for disaster, and when I point out the genesis of the Disaster, you get angry at me for pointing it out.

  38. #138
    On October 29th, 2011 at 11:37 am, conservative hispanic said:

    RedDog:

    We’re going down the same road, only faster.

  39. #139
    On October 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am, Paratus said:

    Another “boomer” here. Flyoverman and Whirled Peas. YOUR generation. I like it. No I think it’s you two guys all by yourselves that has brought us to this point. I’m blaming Fly and Peas.

  40. #140
    On October 29th, 2011 at 12:00 pm, Roland said:

    On October 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am, TigerLady said: ….

    Roland, I don’t know what bible you’re reading but mine doesn’t say anywhere that those who “love” God are saved and the rest stay dead.

    You put love in quotes. Why? What do you think it means to love God? Do you think it is possible for you to love God without following Jesus? I don’t.

    It’s very clear that Jesus Christ is the Way to be with God and those who do not believe will be away from God. That’s described a hell in my bible.

    Hell is the grave. The loss of salvation. Of course that is “away from God.” It is oblivion.

    Compare the life of a blessed woman who lives a full life filled with joy to the life of a gnat. The difference between eternal life and the life we live on Earth is infinitely more than that difference.

    However, when you tell doubters that truth, they think you are just trying to sell them something that does not exist.

    People have to have faith, first, in order to see the truth. So preachers use hellfire to scare doubters into compliance. People are more receptive to change when they think there is a crisis.

  41. #141
    On October 29th, 2011 at 12:05 pm, Roland said:

    Oh, c’mon, people! You’re arguing apples and oranges.

    One side is pointing out the boomers as a generation have really mucked things up. The other side is pointing out there are millions of exceptions, boomers who have been fighting the good fight against the forces of darkness, and doing it against the tide (takes more courage).

    So you’re both right. Sheeesh.

  42. #142
    On October 29th, 2011 at 1:42 pm, TigerLady said:

    Roland, you’re talking oranges and apples when you talk about loving God and following Jesus. There are many, many people who love God but do not follow Jesus. Yes, I believe Jesus is the way to attain salvation.

  43. #143
    On October 29th, 2011 at 2:22 pm, Roland said:

    There are many, many people who love God but do not follow Jesus.

    Then we disagree. There are many people who say they love God who do not follow Jesus. There may be many people who actually think they love God, but do not really love God, who do not follow Jesus. Prior to Jesus, you could love God without following Jesus.

    However, you cannot love God without eventually following Jesus today any more than you can love your child without wanting to protect it from predators.

    It seems self-evident to me, so one or more of the words we are using (“love,” “God” or “following Jesus”) mean different things to the two of us.

    I used to make the mistake of buying into other people’s misconceptions about what the nature of God must be. It was one of the reasons I regarded myself as an atheist. Like 123upnorth, I was not interested in worshipping a monster, however powerful the monster may be.

    How could God not only shun those who genuinely loved him, but abandon them to hellfire? It is a profoundly disturbing idea clearly in violation of natural law.

  44. #144
    On October 29th, 2011 at 4:41 pm, greasywrench said:

    Sebilius, Holder, Napolitano, and of course, Omama – the names change but the lies and opacity remain the same.

    Most “open administration evah” my A$$!

  45. #145
    On October 29th, 2011 at 5:02 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    Abortion is the what defines liberalism as being a disease.

    A liberal has no qualms about terminating a innocent life by methods that I care not to think about and then on the other hand will fight like hell to protect the life a guilty person that is bane to society when being executed.

    Warped!

  46. #146
    On October 29th, 2011 at 6:44 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    OK_Loyalist:

    Michael Savage says that liberalism is a mental disorder.

    You have just encapsulated that mental disorder. Liberals relish killing the innocent but protect the guilty. How sick is that?

  47. #147
    On October 30th, 2011 at 7:34 am, WLBCO said:

    Maybe I missed it above, but why is not the Catholic Church excommunicating Sebellious, Biden, Pelosi and any other supposed practicing Catholic politician for their stand on abortion and murder of the helpless?

  48. #148
    On October 30th, 2011 at 10:09 am, conservative hispanic said:

    WLBCO:

    Because they’re cowards.

  49. #149
    On October 30th, 2011 at 10:15 am, Roland said:

    You have just encapsulated that mental disorder. Liberals relish killing the innocent but protect the guilty. How sick is that?

    It’s not so much sick. The ‘mental disorder’ was traditionally recognized as something called ‘evil.’

    Leftists (there is nothing whatsoever ‘liberal’ about their views) can see themselves being in the shoes of the murderer. They cannot see themselves in the circumstances of the preborn.

    All of their concept of right and wrong is based on their feelings about “How could that affect me?

    It is that simple.

    Their evil viewpoint springs quite organically from their moral relativism.

  50. #150
    On October 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    God will save those who love him

    Nope. Mankind has already been saved. All of us.

  51. #151
    On October 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm, Roland said:

    Nope. Mankind has already been saved. All of us.

    Could be, I suppose. I couldn’t see inside Ted Bundy’s heart.

    But color me skeptical.

  52. #152
    On October 30th, 2011 at 11:18 pm, ChapBix said:

    #136. On October 29th, 2011 at 11:10 am, RedDog said:

    Hard to believe there are hard right-wing democrats anywhere. Could we import some here and send some of our far left loons (nearly all Democrats) to Sweden? Sounds like a fair trade to me. Unless, of course, their hard right Democrats are still well to our left. In which case, they can keep them.

  53. #153
    On October 31st, 2011 at 10:36 am, spaceycakes said:

    everyone that has ever lived, to the last man standing has been redeemed. G-d does not intend to lose one.

  54. #154
    On October 31st, 2011 at 12:34 pm, Roland said:

    everyone that has ever lived, to the last man standing has been redeemed. G-d does not intend to lose one.

    As I said, it could be.

    However, then you get into questions of the nature of being. What exactly is it of a person that gets saved? Certainly not Bundy’s love of inflicting terror and agony on the helpless? How much of that aspect of him was a fundamental part of who he was?

    I’m not nitpicking here, Spacey. I am pointing out that when discussing complex concepts like the nature of the soul words are blunt tools like hammers, not laser scalpels. What is love? What is the nature of God, exactly?

    And what is redemption, anyway? How does that work? A man who loves a monster like Allah going to oblivion could certainly be regarded as having been redeemed from a perfectly natural and reasonable sentence of eternal hellfire.

  55. #155
    On October 31st, 2011 at 3:17 pm, spaceycakes said:

    And what is redemption, anyway? How does that work?

    Jesus’ death redeemed mankind. Easy as that.
    G-d does not see our sin.
    Jesus was the only one who could keep the law perfectly. He was the Passover lamb, and no more sacrifices need be made.
    He cashed in our chit, so that G-d could be reconciled with us.

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