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1. #101
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:48 am, prendad said:

   …midnight…riot police finally show up…Mayor Jean Quan begs protesters to “call” her…

   Sounds like Mayor Jean Quan is out of her league, sort of like a certain president who is out campaigning now instead of doing his job.

2. #102
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 am, xler8bmw said:

   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:38 am, happyscrapper said:

   Not anymore Happy. GW signed an executive order 12919 concerning posse comitatus and that the federal government has complete power to implement Martial Law overriding the states.

   The John W. Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2006 (PL 109-364), “named for the longtime Armed Services Committee chairman from Virginia,” was signed October 17, 2006, by President George W. Bush. The Act “has a provocative provision called ‘Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies’,” the thrust of which “seems to be about giving the federal government a far stronger hand in coordinating responses to [Hurricane] Katrina-like disasters,” Jeff Stein, CQ National Security Editor wrote December 1, 2006.

   “But on closer inspection, its language also alters the two-centuries-old Insurrection Act, which Congress passed in 1807 to limit the president’s power to deploy troops within the United States … ‘to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy’,” Stein wrote.

   “But the amended law takes the cuffs off” and “critics say it’s a formula for executive branch mischief,” Stein wrote, as “the new language adds ‘natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident’ to the list of conditions permitting the President to take over local authority — particularly ‘if domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order.’”

   “One of the few to complain, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., warned that the measure virtually invites the White House to declare federal martial law. … It ‘subverts solid, longstanding posse comitatus statutes that limit the military’s involvement in law enforcement, thereby making it easier for the President to declare martial law,’ he said in remarks submitted to the Congressional Record on Sept. 29.”

3. #103
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:54 am, glockomatic said:

   If you think the violence is bad now, just wait until the country is so admittedly bankrupt that welfare checks stop.

   Moochers who’ve been indoctrinated to believe they deserve free stuff from the Producers of the country will not go quietly when the goodies dry up.

   In all seriousness, if you don’t yet have the training, equipment, and mindset to defend yourself and your families, you’d best get started. Tempest fugit.

4. #104
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:54 am, passingruffian said:

   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:40 am, DonkeyHoatie said:
   The mayor’s response to rioters setting up barricades in the streets:

   “Protesters need to call my office now.”

   And then what, mayor? Are you going to give in to their demands? Are you going to single handedly abolish capitalism? Close down the banks? Forgive all of their debt?

   Call my office? Yep. That’ll fix it.

5. #105
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 9:56 am, Dexter Alarius said:

   Occupier sneers: “They can afford new windows.”

   If it were my business, I’d hope you could afford new teeth.

6. #106
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 10:07 am, BayouKiki said:

   You guys forget what happened during Katrina? Our brilliant Governor Blanco delaying giving the President permission to bring in troops (required by Posse Comitatus) – my cynical self believing she was waiting for a thumbs up or down from Mary Landrieu – and the resulting firestorm that developed excoriating the administration for failure to act? No small wonder the executive branch passed something that would allow it to act in a situation like that.

7. #107
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am, spaceycakes said:

   tracking and shooting a fox family for the past month (their family likes our chickens too much).

   are your chickens not penned?

8. #108
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am, cabrerski said:

   Random thoughts on the passing scene (with apologies to Dr. Sowell):

   Oakland Mayor Quan wants the leaders to call her. Reportedly, there are no leaders of Occupy Oakland and the human microphone probably doesn’t work well on a cell phone transmission.

   Whole Foods is strongly anti-union. After the occupiers attacked the downtown market, the Teamsters show up at the docks. Coincidence?

   I notice the only OWS-related movements that have any sustainability are in blue states. OccupyFortWorth would probably be stampeded with cattle if they tried this crap there.

   President Obozo’s last statement was that he supported the protestors. Can we get a gutsy journalist to ask for an update after the riot?

   Has anyone asked these genius protesters what they will do with the rest of the country if they achieve their goals? How will they manage those who strongly disagree with them? Prepare for a blank stare or a very chilling answer.

9. #109
   On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am, happyscrapper said:

   On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am, spaceycakes said:
   tracking and shooting a fox family for the past month (their family likes our chickens too much).
   are your chickens not penned?

   Spacey…Foxes can get in almost anywhere they want. We had a family of them in our back yard last summer. They had made a den underneath the storage shed next door and they jumped fences to get into our yard and other yards in the neighborhood. I was astounded to see how high they could jump!! We enjoyed watching those critters with the five little cubs…very cute! But, if I had livestock to protect, and no other recourse I would probably shoot them too. We fortunately had the option of calling Animal Conrol to move them to the Minnesota River bottoms if they became a problem…which they didn’t!

   This is kind of the same thing as stupid protesters trespassing on my property…except for one thing. They aren’t cute, so my hesitation in shooting would be very fleeting. Can they call Animal Control on these “occupiers”? It would be appropriate.

10. #110
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am, spaceycakes said:
    tracking and shooting a fox family for the past month (their family likes our chickens too much).
    are your chickens not penned?

    Why should innocent civilian chickens be penned up while the gangsta predators run free?

11. #111
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm, cabrerski said:

    There is a reason why there is a phrase “sly as a fox”.

12. #112
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am, Rogue Cheddar said:Why should innocent civilian chickens be penned up while the gangsta predators run free?

    Wow…excellent point! +1000

13. #113
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm, spaceycakes said:

    huh. I also live in a rural area where foxes and coyotes are prevalent. I have two cats that I look after carefully for that reason. mrcakes & I have discussed having some chickens, but decided not to due to our time spent at work. If I decided to quit my job and make my living on chickens, I would make sure that they were completely secure.

14. #114
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm, spaceycakes said:
    If I decided to quit my job and make my living on chickens, I would make sure that they were completely secure.

    Buy them all Glocks and take them to the range!

15. #115
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:52 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    

16. #116
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm, right_on said:

    Hey Right_On–where did you get the stickers?? I want some!!

    I had them made for me at a local car customizing business that has a vinyl sticker print machine.

    As far as the Silhouette target sticker, I bought them from ReadytoDefend.com.

    I also bought one for my vehicles, which also has the silhouette target, but says; “Beware of Owner!”

17. #117
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Let’s see…

    Spacey…in denim overalls and 4″ stilletos…French Galoises seductively perched on her lower lip…holding a sack of chicken feed…hair perfectly coiffed a al Catherine Deneuve…clucking motherly to all the chicks…

    Sorry, having a hard time visualizing it.

18. #118
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Buy them all Glocks and take them to the range!

    Liberals would scream. They meant free-range chickens, not range-adept chickens.

19. #119
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm, right_on said:

    mrcakes & I have discussed having some chickens

    My community has made owning chickens prohibitably expensive: $1,500 for homeowners and $3,000 for renters…and a limit on the number you may own.

    Chico, California…yeah, we also have an ordinance on the books, declaring us a “Nuclear Free Zone.”

    Of course, these ordinances were put into place by well-meaning (not) liberal majorities on the City Council at the time, and were not voted on by the public. You know…liberals always know what’s best for YOU!

20. #120
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm, cabrerski said:
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm, spaceycakes said:
    Let’s see…

    Spacey…in denim overalls and 4″ stilletos…French Galoises seductively perched on her lower lip…holding a sack of chicken feed…hair perfectly coiffed a al Catherine Deneuve…clucking motherly to all the chicks…

    Sorry, having a hard time visualizing it.

    Not me, I think I’m getting very close.

21. #121
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I would never do anything so gauche as to ‘hold a sack of chicken feed’. Our youngest cat drinks her milk out of Limoges. The chickens would be pets.

22. #122
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Oh, and reverse this:

    in denim overalls and 4″ stilletos

    I would be dressed nicely, but with lower shoes (Donald Pliners, made in Italy) to feed chickens (from their vintage Stangl pottery)

23. #123
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, happyscrapper said:

    If I decided to quit my job and make my living on chickens, I would make sure that they were completely secure.

    I hate to break it to you,Spacey…but nothing is safe from foxes…seriously! Not unless you kept them in a windowless coop 24×7. I’m talking about everything…not just chickens.

24. #124
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I LOVE the idea of feeding the cat out of Limoges! I must tell my sister, the cat lover!

25. #125
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm, spaceycakes said:
    Our youngest cat drinks her milk out of Limoges. The chickens would be pets.
    I would be dressed nicely, but with lower shoes (Donald Pliners, made in Italy) to feed chickens (from their vintage Stangl pottery)

    Mais bien sûr. Perhaps Madame would prefer Baccarat to the Stangl. Soigneriez-vous quelque champagne et le caviar ?

26. #126
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm, spaceycakes said:

    No, besides, I prefer Waterford to Baccarat. The vintage Stangl goes with chickens, in my estimation.

27. #127
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm, cabrerski said:
    Mais bien sûr. Perhaps Madame would prefer Baccarat to the Stangl. Soigneriez-vous quelque champagne et le caviar ?
    

    Ricky Bobby: I can’t understand a word you’ve said the whole time.

28. #128
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I hate to break it to you,Spacey…but nothing is safe from foxes

    or coyotes or raccoons, hawks or the winter cold for that matter…I understand. There are chicken coop designs that work.

29. #129
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm, spaceycakes said:
    No, besides, I prefer Waterford to Baccarat.

    Agreed. Mrs. cabrerski trims a great Waterford Christmas tree every year. It’s my favorite, as she fill the house with the yuletime spirit and a tree in every room.

30. #130
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm, spaceycakes said:
    I hate to break it to you,Spacey…but nothing is safe from foxes
    or coyotes or raccoons, hawks or the winter cold for that matter…I understand. There are chicken coop designs that work.

    Link please.

    Just kidding!!! I will take your word for it! I was just trying to give you a hard time…but you kept your cool. Excellent! You passed Scrapper’s screening for bravery and tenacity. I like that.

31. #131
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    I can’t understand a word you’ve said the whole time.

    This works for me.

32. #132
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Mrs. cabrerski trims a great Waterford Christmas tree every year. It’s my favorite, as she fill the house with the yuletime spirit and a tree in every room.

    Well, wait’ll you get a load of this then…I will only buy Waterford made in Ireland & etched/signed on the bottom
    and
    I do not celebrate Christmas.

    Discuss.

33. #133
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 3:22 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Spacey.

    Did not get the link. But forgive me, I am going to take a break for a little while. I got a little upset in another conversation.

34. #134
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Well, wait’ll you get a load of this then…I will only buy Waterford made in Ireland & etched/signed on the bottom
    and
    I do not celebrate Christmas.

    Discuss.

    I’m afraid to. Very afraid!

35. #135
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm, spaceycakes said:

    cabrerski said:

    Yeah; I saw/read that. I have ‘been there’ w/that demon, ilmc. He’s a liar, like his father; he eats our anger & grows stronger, more vile with it.

36. #136
    On November 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm, Christie said:

    A friend of mine who has 2 20-something daughters said she was so proud of them for attending OWS demos in and around Boston. I didn’t ask her: ‘Proud of what…that your kids are idiots?’ I told her that I blame the gov’t for most of the mess we’re in and that I was in the planning stages of writing a book about how I started out as a bleeding heart lib and made a slow ‘right’ turn. I told her that Ayn rand’s novels inspired me and lo and behold, she asked me what book i would recommend she read first. Amongst the insanity there are signs of sanity.

37. #137
    On November 4th, 2011 at 1:55 pm, Christie said:

    Oh, and I also said that socialism doesn’t work…At first she said that i was the only one of her stodgy friends who she would ‘love’ to debate. I told her that I was interested in her pov, even though i know what it is but that i had no desire to debate it…History proves my/our pov, that’s all.
    She did say that ‘The system is in demise’. No kidding.

38. #138
    On November 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am, Ty85719 said:

    Rioting: It’s an Oakland ‘thang’…you wouldn’t understand