Occupy Oakland’s dangerous “strike” follies; Plus: Capitalism-bashing, cop-hating rapper Boots Riley is back; Updated

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 2, 2011 12:57 AM


The politics of economic obstruction


Occupy Oakland strike promoter Boots Riley, who penned “5 million ways to kill a CEO,” celebrates the attack on the World Trade Center

My new column spotlights the Occupiers’ “general strike” action scheduled for today — and climaxing tonight in an anticipated shutdown of the Port of Oakland (Calif.). Many of the same old agitators I’ve covered over the past decade are behind the latest manufactured chaos. I refresh your memories below of the Bay Area Left’s violent Oakland port shutdown in 2003 and the ignominious Oakland agitator and strike leader Boots Riley, and also connect the dots between Riley, Oakland’s Van Jones, Occupy Oakland, and the violent ILWU thugs and their supporters who kicked off the Day of Rage warm-up show in Longview, Washington in September.

Related reading: Here’s the scathing open letter from Oakland’s police union blasting the quivering Democrat mayor Jean Quan. She’s a UC Berkeley-bred moonbat now more interested in restoring her prog credentials than in cleaning up her dysfunctional city and standing up for law-abiding businesses and taxpayers. The organizers have distributed their chants for the day, including:

“Strike, Occupy, Shut it Down! Oakland is the People’s Town”
“Every Hour, Every Day! The occupation is here to stay!”
“Occupy Everything! Liberate Oakland”
“Politicians & Bankers, Liars & Thieves, We’re taking it back! We’re not saying please!”
“No more cops, we don’t need ‘em! All we want is total freedom”
“Shut Down OPD! Not the Public Library!”
“Let’s Go Oakland! Let’s Go!” [clap] [clap]

Perhaps they’ll throw some of Boots Riley’s violent rap lyrics into the mix, too.

The mob enablers in Oakland’s city government — and the voters who keep putting these stooges in office — have only themselves to blame for disgracing their basket-case city. Shame.

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Occupy Oakland’s dangerous “strike” follies
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

The next stage of the Aimless Occupation of America is upon us: On Wednesday, rabble-rousers in the San Francisco Bay Area will walk off jobs they don’t have and encourage everyone else around the country to abandon work to protest high unemployment.

The Occupiers are calling their organized day of inaction a “Mass Day of Action.” The Carpenters Local 713, the Service Employees International Union, the United Auto Workers, and the Industrial Workers of the World have all endorsed the “general strike.” Longshore workers and their union agitators are rooting for the shutdown of the Port of Oakland. Teachers’ unions will push students and educators to play hooky. Their posters urge: “No Work. No School. Occupy Everywhere.”

A city suffering from chronic poverty, out-of-control crime, a $76 million budget deficit, and a 15 percent unemployment rate (nearly 50 percent for Oakland’s youth) can hardly afford such social justice follies. But a pushover Democratic mayor and an overwhelmed police force have left what’s left of gainfully employed Oakland taxpayers at the mercy of professional freeloaders and anti-capitalism saboteurs.

Instead of unequivocally condemning efforts to paralyze downtown commerce, Oakland city officials have all expressed sympathy for the protesters. For a brief moment, the city council president fretted meekly about the city’s image after a violent clash between Camp Chaos inhabitants and law enforcement officers last week. Nevertheless, city leaders — or rather, city enablers — have informed public employees they can use vacation or other paid time to ditch their offices and raise their fists in solidarity with the Occupiers.

Instead of targeting local bank branch managers and private-sector entrepreneurs, the protesters should be camping out at government offices asking where all the tens of millions in federal Obama stimulus funding for Oakland went over the past two years – including $40 million from the Department of Health and Human Services, nearly $30 million from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, $26 million from the Department of Justice, $24 million from the Transportation Department, $15 million from the Department of Education, and $5.3 million from the Environmental Protection Agency.

One local analysis found last year that the Oakland Housing Authority squandered nearly $11 million in federal project renovation and clean-up stimulus grants to create a measly 10.7 jobs.

It would all be an amusing object lesson on the impotence of the welfare state, if not for the looming shadow of violence that hangs like stubborn Bay Area fog over the movement. In 2003, a like-minded mob of police-provoking anarchists, anti-war organizers, and progressive activists descended on the Port of Oakland to coordinate a “Day of Action.” They hurled concrete, wood, and iron bolts at cops while attempting to block military shipments to soldiers in wartime – then whined about police brutality.

Fast-forward eight years. This week’s “Day of Action” is spearheaded by the likes of Oakland rapper Boots Riley, a militant, self-declared “communist” who penned “5 million ways to kill a CEO” (“Toss a dollar in the river and when he jump in/If you find he can swim, put lead boots on him and do it again”) and “Lazy Muthaf**kas” (“You ain’t never learned to drive or tie your shoe/I got my ear to the street and my eye on you/… You’re a lazy ********** ! Lazy **********!). After the 9/11 attacks, I reported on Riley’s appalling album cover depicting him partying in front of a doctored image of the World Trade Center being blown up.

Like fellow Occupier, 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and Oakland community organizer Van Jones, Boots Riley has long stoked anti-police grievances. In “Pork and Beef,” he rapped: “If you got beef with c-o-p’s/Throw a Molotov at the p-i-g’s.”

Add to this toxic mix the thugs of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union. The planned march on Oakland’s port is being billed as an expression of “solidarity with longshore workers in their struggle” against grain importer EGT. In Longview, Washington, wildcat union workers cut train brake lines, smashed windows, dumped grain, and took hostages earlier this fall to protest the company’s decision to employ not non-union workers, but workers from a competing shop. A federal judge fined the ILWU $250,000 after it defied a court restraining order; even Obama’s National Labor Relations Board was forced to issue a complaint against the union’s “violent and aggressive” actions.

The unapologetic local union president vowed: “It’s going to get worse before it gets better.”

Mark those words.

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UPDATE: Men’s Wearhouse = moonbats.

Thousands “strike”…

Thousands of Wall Street protesters marched in the streets of Oakland on Wednesday as they geared up with labor unions to picket banks, take over foreclosed homes and vacant buildings and disrupt operations at the nation’s fifth-busiest port.

Demonstrators as well as city and business leaders expressed optimism that the widely anticipated “general strike” would be a peaceful event for a city that became a rallying point last week after an Iraq War veteran was injured in clashes between protesters and police.

Embattled Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, who has been criticized for her handling of the protests, said in a statement that she supported the goals of the protest movement that began in New York City a month ago and spread to dozens of cities across the country.

…Nurse, teacher and other worker unions are taking part in the protests, and Oakland is letting city workers use vacation or other paid time to take part in the general strike. About 5 percent of city workers took the day off Wednesday, according to City Administrator Deanna Santana.

About 360 Oakland teachers didn’t show up for work, or roughly 18 percent of the district’s 2,000 teachers, said Oakland Unified School District spokesman Troy Flint. The district has been able to get substitute teachers for most classrooms, and where that wasn’t possible children were sent to other classrooms, he said.

The day’s events in Oakland began with a rally outside City Hall that by midmorning drew more than 1,000 people who were spilling into the streets and disrupting the downtown commute.

About three dozen adults with toddlers and school-age children formed a “children’s brigade, gathering at Oakland Public Library for a stroller march to the protest in downtown Oakland. Demonstrators handed out signs written as if in a children’s crayon that read “Generation 99% Occupying Our Future,” which the marchers attached to their baby backpacks and strollers.

The protests were expected to culminate with a march to the Port of Oakland, where organizers said the goal would be to stop work there for the 7 p.m. shift. Organizers say they want to halt “the flow of capital” at the port.

Stay tuned.

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  1. #101
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm, stillontheroad said:
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    Hay K…K…K…Kent — what place on the 180 degree spectrum would you place the NBPP?? I will make it easy — Left or right?

    Are they even on the spectrum? They’re a bunch of useful idiots who spread racism just like the KKK. I don’t support or condone anything they do or stand for. I ignore them like I ignore the KKK. Plain and simple.

  2. #102
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm, Paratus said:

    kentroyals5: You all? I do have a dislike for the left.There opinions aren’t mine. I also dislike the folks on the right that aren’t conservative enough in my view.
    You haven’t hidden your views at all, you give your perspective.
    Others give theirs. You don’t like MMs narrative and you post it.
    The perspective of OWS torching Oakland sounds pretty killer too me. There still out there. The militia isn’t.

  3. #103
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:25 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I get it. You’re able to take the crazy people from your side and say, “They aren’t conservative. They’re just crazy.”

    We can’t do that on the left. I get it.

    No, you can’t do that on the left because everyone on the left is Crazy!!

  4. #104
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm, RyanInSanJose said:

    kentroyals5:

    So you’re basically a self-appointed michellemalkin.com watchdog. Got it. You point out the stories she doesn’t cover.

    Can you provide a link to a liberal website where you do a similar job? Since you’re providing a bit of clarity here, I just want to check out where you’re providing clarity to the other side.

  5. #105
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    Dear Conservatives,

    Please show up at this protest wearing your George Bush t-shirts.

    I’d rather wear my U.C. Berkeley t-shirt.
    Saul Alinsky taught me well…

    According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy.

    Having a progressive girlfriend for several years, I attended more than my share of Grateful Dead concerts and Rainbow Gatherings, so I can walk the walk and talk the talk.

    I can get the liberal nutjobs accepting me right into their inner circle. Heck, I could get Van Jones to appoint me Propaganda Minister. :)

  6. #106
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm, Gorebot said:

    This is a perfect opportunity to show these birth defects who’s boss.

    If I were California governor, I’d have every available National Guard troop stationed on every street corner, with all their armament on full display.

    Videograph everything, and water-cannon anyone who instigates anything.

  7. #107
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:25 pm, happyscrapper said:
    I get it. You’re able to take the crazy people from your side and say, “They aren’t conservative. They’re just crazy.”

    We can’t do that on the left. I get it.
    No, you can’t do that on the left because everyone on the left is Crazy!!

    You’re unreasonable, and crazy. You must be a liberal.

  8. #108
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:33 pm, 1ConcernedMom said:

    I don’t have time to read all the comments or to hang around today, but in response to kentroyals5:

    Michelle can cover whatever she wants, it’s her blog. I saw the story about the militia group. The mainstream media (MSM) covered it. Michelle tends to cover things that the MSM ignores.

    I can’t speak for others here, but Michelle’s articles only rile me up to the point that I know we need to replace Obama and the majority of congress in 2012 through our votes.

    I’m curious as to what other sites you check out. You should see the reporting at http://www.biggovernment.com. All kinds of crimes are being committed at occupy protests, yet the MSM seems to ignore it. You should check it out, particularly the ongoing rap sheet and the list of supporters. There are crazy folks in any group, but the left certainly seems to have more than its fair share.

    You may be ok with the “transformation” of our nation, but I’m not. I never was politically minded until I had my child, and I sure don’t like how the future looks. But even if this country is destroyed, I know God is in control. What is going on is more than a battle between ideologies. It is a battle between good and evil. God has been more than patient with us, but yet many continue going down the path of destruction in the self-centered choices that are made. One day His wrath will be unleashed. Good will triumph over evil.

  9. #109
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm, RyanInSanJose said:
    kentroyals5:

    So you’re basically a self-appointed michellemalkin.com watchdog. Got it. You point out the stories she doesn’t cover.

    Can you provide a link to a liberal website where you do a similar job? Since you’re providing a bit of clarity here, I just want to check out where you’re providing clarity to the other side.

    Liberal blogs are full of crazy, insane people (sort of like many right-wing nut jobs on this blog). I get a kick out of pi33ing you guys off by utilizing facts and citing my sources. It’s quite fun. I’ll stick to it. Thanks.

  10. #110
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

    You’re unreasonable, and crazy. You must be a liberal.

    I don’t care if you call me unreasonable and crazy. But please, for the love of God, don’t call me a liberal!!!!

  11. #111
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:42 pm, rightisright said:

    kentroyals5, you are lefty are you not, twisting and turning with the wind…that must get tiring trying to keep headed in the preferred direction.

    By any chance was the geriatric militia going to carry out their assault on one of their weekend passes? I would think you would know since your so concerned about the “over the hill gang” over throwing the Giverment.

  12. #112
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:42 pm, rightisright said:
    kentroyals5, you are lefty are you not, twisting and turning with the wind…that must get tiring trying to keep headed in the preferred direction.

    Twisting and turning with the wind? I’m not Romney. Please show me where I’ve changed my tune on anything. I’ll await your citations.

    By any chance was the geriatric militia going to carry out their assault on one of their weekend passes? I would think you would know since your so concerned about the “over the hill gang” over throwing the Giverment.

    I see. Because bombs/explosives in the hands of people in their 60′s isn’t dangerous. Nice of you to give them a pass because they’re old.

  13. #113
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:17 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    It’s like if a kid has chocolate all over his face and tells you he didn’t eat the cake. I would think you may have some further questions for him.

    More like a kid who just washed his face and some other kid anonymously accuses him of eating a cake that may or may not have been there before the alleged eating.

    Sometimes that’s not smoke, but fog intended to obscure.

    Given the facts that we do know, I suspect this story is little more than a distraction. Of course it will get a lot more press than Larry Sinclair’s accusations. Honestly, I would prefer every candidate on both sides to be thoroughly vetted by the press, but sadly, that’s not the case.

  14. #114
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Hey look,

    Soldiers support the OWS movement:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-01/occupy-wall-street-veterans/51031852/1

    Now, you people have to come up with a new way to smear our military.

    God I love conservative christians, because they hate whoever they disagree with – thank heavens they’re republicans.

  15. #115
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, Paratus said:

    kentroyals5: This is your fun? “Pissing you guys off”.
    I’m sure you thought also that the “guys” here have fun pissing you off too.

  16. #116
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm, Paratus said:
    kentroyals5: This is your fun? “Pissing you guys off”.

    Witches don’t like water. Many on this blog don’t like facts. They react the same way. They have a melt down. I link and cite my sources. FUN!

  17. #117
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    But, you all need some perspective.

    Hey Kent, I got your perspective right here! (insert graphic visual of your choice here)

    I nominate Kent as the Perspective PoPo of this blog! Seconded?

  18. #118
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I love conservative christians, because they hate

    what an eejit.

  19. #119
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm, spaceycakes said:

    well, Rogue, I nominated him as the ‘doctor’, but I guess he can be the ‘po po’.

  20. #120
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Because bombs/explosives in the hands of people in their 60′s isn’t dangerous. Nice of you to give them a pass because they’re old.

    Watch it there. I’m sure you’ve heard “60 is the new 30″. 60+ year olds can be quite a handful these days, thanks to better nutrition, focus on fitness, and prescription meds. :)

  21. #121
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:04 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm, spaceycakes said:
    well, Rogue, I nominated him as the ‘doctor’, but I guess he can be the ‘po po’.

    I prefer Doctor Czar and Po-Po Czar. Thanks.

  22. #122
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm, right_on said:

    Shut down the 1%

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-a-a-a!

    That’s right, dim-wits…bite the hand that feeds you!

    This mentality goes a long way in explaining why these idiots can’t acheive The American Dream. The public education system, so adept (not) at teaching America’s kids, “critical thinking,” has resulted in a critical failure since it has taught them to cut off their noses to spite their faces.

    Their whiney protests results in them falling on their own swords for The Socialist Nightmare. The concept of an equal society is in reality, a Faux-topia.

    All the promises of socialism, Marxism, and Communism, made by the powerful few, has never come to fruition for the masses, yet these slaves to the movement press on, despite the costs in human attrition. (Shaking my head.) They really are useful idiots to the Soroses of the world.

    Just rewards?

  23. #123
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    You’re trying too hard. You need to spend some time strolling through Sproul Plaza on the Berkeley campus. When you see the Revolutionary Communists Youth Brigade table sitting next to the National Security Agency recruiting table, you’ll understand subtlety.

  24. #124
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm, DonkeyHoatie said:

    Any time I hear someone say “you people” as a a perjorative, I know that I’m listening to a small-minded person who is more interested in dividing and labeling than they are in finding mutually agreeable solutions.

    Other key divider signals are:
    ** Use of race descriptors for a group of people
    ** Use of class descriptors (poor, rich, middle class, working class, etc)
    ** Use of political party titles as a perjorative
    ** Use of age or gender as a dividing line to distinguish one group from another
    ** Use of “Red States” “Blue States” or “Flyover Country” as a perjorative

    Show me someone who regularly uses those hallmarks, and I’ll show you someone who is working to see the Divided States of America.

  25. #125
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm, ChapBix said:

    As civil unrest rolls across the face of our planet, the door will open for the Antichrist. I’ve wondered over the years how events would unfold to make that happen. Now I believe I am seeing it happen before my eyes. With that, it also brings cheer because it means that Christ will soon take his church to be with him.

  26. #126
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm, ChapBix said:
    As civil unrest rolls across the face of our planet, the door will open for the Antichrist. I’ve wondered over the years how events would unfold to make that happen. Now I believe I am seeing it happen before my eyes. With that, it also brings cheer because it means that Christ will soon take his church to be with him.

    The Antichrist is also coming because gays want to get married. Don’t forget that.

    You sound as nutty as that Christian who keeps claiming the Apocalypse is coming.

  27. #127
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm, Roland said:

    ** Use of political party titles as a perjorative

    Clearly you do not understand modern Democrats really are evil.

    All of them? Every single one? Of course not. Every single Nazi was not evil, but that would not stop us from recognizing the Party stood for something horrible, and all but the most pc lunatic among us have no problem saying, “The Nazis were evil,” meaning the Nazi Party was evil, and so were those who supported it, knowing its real moral philosophy.

    If you doubt Democrats are evil, just reflect on their underlying assumptions about the nature of humans and human society and how they define the basis of morality (moral relativism).

    It is evil. They are evil. Even when they are ‘nice.’ And ‘charming.’

    It is not a difference of opinions that separates us from the modern Democrats. It is a difference of basic moral philosophy.

  28. #128
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    The Antichrist is also coming because gays want to get married. Don’t forget that.

    You sound as nutty as that Christian who keeps claiming the Apocalypse is coming.

    Kent, it is completely inappropriate and offensive for you to ridicule a person’s religious beliefs. KNOCK.IT.OFF.JERK!

  29. #129
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm, tramper said:

    cabrerski said:
    Meanwhile, back at CBS, Bob Schieffer is still upset that Cain had a smoker in this latest ad. Nothing says hard-hitting journalism than focusing on the insignificant. Hey Bob, you want to see rage, check out the OWSers about to torch Oakland.

    Tools.

    Update for you on the London occupyers outside St Paul’s Cathedral.

    It was agreed to evict them, today they changed their minds, they can stay for now, empty tents at night too. :)

    Two clergy have resigned because they couldn’t bring themselves to see the occupyers evicted, and now the Archbishop has intervened, on the side of the occupiers, calling for a Robin Hood tax on bankers etc.

    I have to point out that this is an Archbishop, (he’s like an old hippy) that has done more damage to the Church of England than a 100 muslim terrorists could.

    Oh and we have a public sector strike to look forward to over pension reforms. The private sector saw their pensions decimated by the last government, Labour (socialists) which the Public S didn’t give a toss about, but expect the private sector to carry on paying for them. Personally I think the private sector in both the USA and here should have a general strike, bring both countries to a halt, let’s be honest the public don’t notice any difference when the public sector strike, but a private sector strike is a different kettle of fish, imagine the governments response to all that lost revenue. Unions should have an ‘out of date’ label on them.

  30. #130
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI I_LOVE_MY_COUNTRY. Let’s make it interesting. If SpaceyCakes shows up–I’ve got 10 bucks that says she wins the dustup. And I’ll double it if she’s packing Happy’s Battle Skillet heat.
    ***
    Bring it–easy money! No need for Vegas odds–even money. Winner to be determined by counting bruises, contusions, fractures, bleeding bite and scratch marks. Winner must walk over and stomp the loser before leaving the field of honor. No ear, nose, or finger biteoffs allowed. After all–this is a PG-13 rated family event.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  31. #131
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Spacey can borrow one of my skillets if she promises to wash off the blood and brain matter before returning it. Oh wait…forget the brain matter. There wouldn’t be any of that coming out of an empty head. Anyway, The skillet would really do a number on that brainless twit!!

  32. #132
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    You sound as nutty as that Christian who keeps claiming the Apocalypse is coming.

    You sound as nutty as that liberal that keeps claiming there must be racial blindness and social justice.

  33. #133
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:57 pm, Paratus said:

    rocketman: No ear bitten off? Wait a minute. I want to see at least ONE ear bitten off. I can see you’re no fun at all.

  34. #134
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm, stillontheroad said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    So riddle me this -
    Why is every hell hole city with cronic unemployment, slums that make Bombay look like the Waldorf, educational systems that are over financed and turn out brain dead turnips – except for those that beat the odds by shear will and escape the Democrat plantation,why is it that all these cities are always Democrat strongholds? You want to convince people here that there is something good about liberalism and the socialist democrats?
    Liberalism is a mental disorder there Kent – there are meds to treat this.

  35. #135
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm, canb0nly1 said:

    Sorry it took so long for me to respond to earlier posts. It’s been a busy day. I’ve sent a message to a buddy at the FBI JTTF to see if I can get a copy of the full indictment against the “covert group” in Georgia, but I found a link to an excerpt.

    It is a group of four seniors who are fed up with our government. If they were indeed planning on carrying out what they talked about, then that would be atrocious.

    On the other hand, I find it quite bothersome that they have been indicted for things that they talked about.

    Not really sure where to go with that. Do we accept the “Minority Report” idea that the state should be in the business of preventing crimes, or merely in the business of punishing those who actually commit crimes? I also get that fomenting sedition is a crime, but I can tell you I’ve shot-the-bull (so to speak) about what eventual violent revolution would look like and what side I’d be on (not the side of what our government has become), does that mean I’m indictable as well?

    More food for thought: the founders KNEW they were committing treason and did it anyway. Were they right or wrong to do so?

    Back to the specifics of this case, if these guys actually broke laws, then they should be prosecuted. If they really believe in the principle of what they talked about doing, they should be prepared for the consequences as well. Same goes for the crack pots in the OWS groups.

    By the way, there have been some of the OWS people (very few actually) who have made good points about the problems. Where they go wrong is the object of their ire. They hate Wall Street; they should hate DC even more.

    P.S. I have enough weapons to arm 4 people, should I go to jail for that?

  36. #136
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm, Roland said:

    Liberalism is a mental disorder there Kent – there are meds to treat this.

    If collectivism (it is most definitely not liberalism, which was on our side of the moral philosophy divide) was a mental disorder, we could treat it, but it is not. It is a moral philosophy based in moral relativism.

  37. #137
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm, Ilovemysashaydownthecatwalk said:
    Hey Spaceycakes – what will you be wearing?

    Watch it spacey…he is attempting to confuse you by matching or outdoing your battle garb. If you choose 4″ stilettos, he will don the 5″ version. He will also “out-pink and out-lavender” you.

    Take care…word has it he comes armed with a unbaked baugette. With his limp wristed swing, it is the only thing that is pliable enough not to break his wrist.

    I checked in with Vegas…you are 25-2 fav. Called my bookie 5 minutes ago for a couple of C-notes on that action.

  38. #138
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:18 pm, jrgdds said:
  39. #139
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:21 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm, Southpaw said:
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    You sound as nutty as that Christian who keeps claiming the Apocalypse is coming.
    You sound as nutty as that liberal that keeps claiming there must be racial blindness and social justice.

    Sorry. I can’t hear you over the screams of racism by the right over Cain’s alleged sexual harassment story.

  40. #140
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:22 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Kent, it is completely inappropriate and offensive for you to ridicule a person’s religious beliefs. KNOCK.IT.OFF.JERK!

    Wahhhhhbulance time. WAHH! It’s not nutty to make fun of a man who continually claims the apocalypse is coming.

  41. #141
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    Liberalism is a mental disorder there Kent – there are meds to treat this.

    Seems like Rick Perry and happyscrapper have used up the entire medical stockpile lately.

  42. #142
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm, canb0nly1 said:

    On the other hand, I find it quite bothersome that they have been indicted for things that they talked about.

    Compare and contrast with these heros of the Democrat Party.

    Larry Grathwohl an FBI informant who infiltrated the Weather Underground wrote in his book, “No Place to Hide”

    I brought up the subject of what’s going to happen after we take over the government. You know, we become responsible for administrating, you know, 250 million people. And there was no answer. No one had given any thought to economics. How are you going to clothe and feed these people?

    The only thing that I could get was that they expected that the Cubans, the North Vietnamese, the Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States. They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution.

    And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education in the Southwest where we would take all of the people who needed to be re‑educated into the new way of thinking and teach them how things were going to be.

    I asked, “Well, what is going to happen to those people that we can’t re‑educate, that are die-hard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated and when I pursued this further, they estimated that they’d have to eliminate 25 million people in these re‑education centers.

    And when I say eliminate, I mean kill 25 million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of whom have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well-known educational centers and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people and they were dead serious.

  43. #143
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:58 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm, stillontheroad said:
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    So riddle me this -
    Why is every hell hole city with cronic unemployment, slums that make Bombay look like the Waldorf, educational systems that are over financed and turn out brain dead turnips – except for those that beat the odds by shear will and escape the Democrat plantation,why is it that all these cities are always Democrat strongholds? You want to convince people here that there is something good about liberalism and the socialist democrats?

    Excellent point and this is well documented! All the statistics show this to be true. Democrat-run cities are not well run and are generally in debt and have large slums and unemployment. Kent…google it!!

  44. #144
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm, Southpaw said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:21 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    Sorry. I can’t hear you over the screams of racism by the right over Cain’s alleged sexual harassment story.

    Something special for you:

    To Kill A Mockingbird – courtroom scene

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckVV3eA4azw&feature=related

  45. #145
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
  46. #146
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm, canb0nly1 said:
    Sorry it took so long for me to respond to earlier posts. It’s been a busy day. I’ve sent a message to a buddy at the FBI JTTF to see if I can get a copy of the full indictment against the “covert group” in Georgia, but I found a link to an excerpt.

    It is a group of four seniors who are fed up with our government. If they were indeed planning on carrying out what they talked about, then that would be atrocious.

    On the other hand, I find it quite bothersome that they have been indicted for things that they talked about.

    You need to read more.

    Thomas and Roberts are accused of buying what they believed was a silencer and an unregistered explosive from an undercover informant in May and June. Prosecutors say he discussed using the weapons in attacks against federal buildings.

    Prosecutors say Crump also discussed making 10 pounds of Ricin and dispersing it in Atlanta and various cities across the nation, suggesting it can be blown out of a car speeding down an interstate highway.

    Adams, meanwhile, is accused of showing an informant the formula to make Ricin and identifying the ways to obtain the ingredients.

    Thomas is accused of driving to Atlanta with a confidential informant on May 24 and scoping out an IRS building there and an ATF building “to plan and assess for possible attacks,” the indictment states.

    “We’d have to blow the whole building, like Timothy McVeigh,” Thomas said during the trip to Atlanta, the indictment states.

    Link

  47. #147
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm, ChapBix said:

    #142. On November 2nd, 2011 at 3:46 pm, Flyoverman said:

    One only need to look at Cambodia, the U.S.S.R., China and other nations where Communists ruled supreme to see how they would carry out their defense against a counter-revolution. The hard left has no problem with that.

  48. #148
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Sorry. I can’t hear you over the screams of racism by the right over Cain’s alleged sexual harassment story.

    The money the alleged victim received, as communicated by the NRA was one year’s severance. Note, severance pay. If it was to resolve a sexual harrassment charge, it would not be severance pay.

    To take severance pay it to acknowledge the issue could not be construed as sexual harassment.

    Legally that is as clear as “you should put some ice on that.”

  49. #149
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:15 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The hard left has no problem with that.

    Remember that when Obama and his buddies complain that they are “constrained” by our Constituion.

    Today they push for “real solutions.” Left unconstrained ultimately, they will order the “Final Solution.”

    “Supreme cruelty is reserved for the defenseless.”

  50. #150
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    From Greta’s interview:

    VAN SUSTEREN: Got a roaming eye at all?

    CAIN: A roaming eye?

    VAN SUSTEREN: Yes.

    CAIN: I enjoy flowers, like everybody else.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You know what I mean.

    (LAUGHTER)

    CAIN: No. No, not at all.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Not at all.

    CAIN: Well, I wouldn’t say not at all. Depends upon what you mean and (INAUDIBLE) to what you mean.

    Clintonian answer! HAHA

    Or this from Headline New’s interview:

    The complaint concerned “the gesture with the height thing and there were a couple of other things in there that I found absolutely ridiculous,” Cain said, as HLN’s Robin Meade cut in asking him what “ridiculous” things he was referring to.

    “I don’t even remember. They were so ridiculous, I don’t remember what they are,” Cain said.

    The anchor pressed him: “You remember they were ridiculous, but you don’t remember what the other things were?”

    “The reason I forgot them is because they were ridiculous. I dismissed them out of my mind,” Cain said. “I said if she can make that stick and call that sexual harassment, fine. But it didn’t stick, okay? So, I don’t remember what they were. The only thing that I remember is the one gesture that I made, talking about the height.”

    Link 1. Link 2.

  51. #151
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    And this rises to the level of a BJ in the Oval Office how?

  52. #152
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Hey Kent, Juanita Broderick wants to know if you got her back.

  53. #153
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Hey Kent, Juanita Broderick wants to know if you got her back.

    It’s Broaddrick. And once she stops changing her story, we’ll talk.

  54. #154
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm, spaceycakes said:

    LOL, ’cause ya’ll know every rape victim has to run it past kent. LOL

  55. #155
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    And this rises to the level of a BJ in the Oval Office how?

    Umm. Who ever equated the two?

    At least the BJ was allegedly consensual. We’ll see about the sexual harassment claims as the story unfolds.

  56. #156
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Sorry I was going by the name on the subpoena.

  57. #157
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:31 pm, spaceycakes said:
    LOL, ’cause ya’ll know every rape victim has to run it past kent. LOL

    Nope, but I’ll defer to the affidavit she signed claiming she was not raped. She didn’t need to sign the affidavit stating this. ((but but but..she was pressured)) Whatever. Moving on.

  58. #158
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Sorry I was going by the name on the subpoena.

    Maybe like her story, she changed her name, too.

  59. #159
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm, budvarakbar said:

    Hey Michelle — after skimming thru this thread – I see it hi-jacked by the usual troll — why are you allowing this? I suggest a flagging system to eliminate and/or minimize their influence.

    Back on topic — the Port of Oakland should shut down and ask for China to send over some crane operators — the ILWU needs to be crushed.

  60. #160
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    Kent, I hope someday, like some of us you will have the opportunity to be exposed to the irrational, nut job in the workplace and be embroiled in corporate’s attempts to limit their costs rather than allow the process to go to its full conclusion, where the facts come out. And then be told everyone has to sign a non-disclusure agreement.

    I usually do not wish bad things on people, but in the case of your self-rightteous arrogance, I will make an exception.

    I hope you get up to your scrotum in one, no matter how undeserved. You really need an education in the real world.

  61. #161
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm, canb0nly1 said:

    In 30 seconds of googling I was able to find the chemical formula as well as recipes for ricin…let’s arrest Google.

    In 30 more seconds of googling, I found at least a dozen ways to acquire and/or make “unregistered” explosives, including a nifty one that is (I know from experience) a fun dorm-room prank and can be made from basic things you probably already have in your kitchen.

    (I won’t post those here…I wouldn’t want the FBI after me.)

    Also, suppressors (“silencers” for the Hollywood-educated types) can be legally obtained as well. It just requires some paperwork, which these men were apparently hoping to avoid. (I’m not keen on the fact that the federal government is aware that I own at least one handgun myself.)

    I’m pretty sure I stated that if they broke the law, they should be prosecuted, and that if they truly intended to carry out what they talked about, it would be atrocious.

    I’m still waiting to see the full indictment because I’d rather get my info as close to a direct source as I can than from ANY “news” agency.

    Regardless of whatever shenanigans these old timers were talking about, or possibly trying to pull off, it doesn’t make the wrongs and/or illegal behavior of a large number of the occupy groupists (yes I made up my own word) any more right or excusable. I’m pretty sure I covered that, too.

  62. #162
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm, spaceycakes said:

    what’s wrong with the geezers anyway? someone threaten their social security checks?

  63. #163
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Back on topic — the Port of Oakland should shut down and ask for China to send over some crane operators — the ILWU needs to be crushed.

    Sweet. I like it!

  64. #164
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm, PetefromNJ said:

    Fire all OWS strikers in Oakland.

    And if they are supported by a public labor union, de-certify the union immediately. No need to continue to feed the beast with our money. There are a lot of people genuinely out of work (not these limousine protesters) who can take over their jobs.

  65. #165
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm, martin.musculus said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm,
    spaceycakes said:

    I’ll be right behind you; you’ll be the one w/Air Supply on your iPod

    Wait a minute!
    Spaceycakes! If the guy looks “older than Methuselah”, is on a blackpainted collapsible steel cane, exceedingly bald on top sporting a white “Brother Brigham” beard, that’s me![wink&grin]

    Yeah, I’m over 90… and I like some modern music… some individual songs from Air Supply, Boston, Kansas’ Leftoverture album, Uriah Heep’s Democrats Demons & Wizards, and their Salisbury album, a folkish group called Steeleye Span, and even one song from a group no one seems to have heard of called 10CCs…

    So, PLEASE! Confirm your targets before firing!
    BTW: Battle Skillet: cast iron or electric?
    (;~)▓▓

  66. #166
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 pm, spaceycakes said:

    a group no one seems to have heard of called 10CC

    excuse me? You are speaking to someone that knows all the lyrics on the album ‘Bloody Tourists’.

  67. #167
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm, Flyoverman said:
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    Kent, I hope someday, like some of us you will have the opportunity to be exposed to the irrational, nut job in the workplace and be embroiled in corporate’s attempts to limit their costs rather than allow the process to go to its full conclusion, where the facts come out. And then be told everyone has to sign a non-disclusure agreement.

    I usually do not wish bad things on people, but in the case of your self-rightteous arrogance, I will make an exception.

    I hope you get up to your scrotum in one, no matter how undeserved. You really need an education in the real world.

    No such luck..I work for….myself! But thanks for trying to wish me ill-will. I wish you nothing but hang-nails and arthritis for the rest of your life! MUAHA

    And that’s your response from my comment at 4:21 where I posted Cain’s weird responses? Nice.

    I normally wouldn’t give a rip about someone’s sexual harassment claim. But if Cain is trying to be my President, I’d like to hear more. If you think he’s handling this poorly, can you imagine when he’s the man in charge of our country. Yikes.

  68. #168
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm, canb0nly1 said:

    When they purchased illegal weapons and supposed explosive device(s), it took the words and put them into action.

    When they canvased the IRS building..they took the words and put them into action.

  69. #169
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Man, you people sure do talk tough.

    Just be in Oakland, CA tonight and tell those OWS people what you think.

    I can’t wait to see the pictures.

  70. #170
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm, martin.musculus said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm,
    canb0nly1 said:

    . . .
    In 30 more seconds of googling, I found at least a dozen ways to acquire and/or make “unregistered” explosives, including a nifty one that is (I know from experience) a fun dorm-room prank and can be made from basic things you probably already have in your kitchen.

    NI₃?

  71. #171
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Just be in Oakland, CA tonight

    or what?

  72. #172
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm, spaceycakes said:

    ilmc would never show up in Oakland–not even to get a rootbeer float at Baskin Robbins. Oakland put the smack down on ilmc
    gimme love!

  73. #173
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm, PetefromNJ said:

    Since this is the best OWS has to offer, no need to feel threatened by them:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQlYC8Yjirc

    And those are the leading lights of the movement! Idiots.

  74. #174
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm, martin.musculus said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 pm,
    spaceycakes said:

    Well, my copy of CD w/“The Things We Do For Love” was damaged. I like to give custom local, if possible. When I tried to order a copy (at a couple of different music stores), the clerk just gave me a vacant stare, and at one place I was told “they don’t carry that old stuff,” but I could look and it might be with the other guys… Bach and stuff…

    I didn’t ask for “A Horse With No Name”, either… After the 4th strike on 10CC, I was afraid I’d become rude at the response to that request…

  75. #175
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    I want a way to filter out the hijackers here!
    Kent or Chap or whoever you are, I thought you knew better and why don’t you start your own blog?

  76. #176
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm, canb0nly1 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm, martin.musculus
    NI₃?

    Nothing that energetic, but that looks fun too.

  77. #177
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:31 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm, GladzKravtz said:
    I want a way to filter out the hijackers here!

    A lot of people post OT items in threads. It’s only ‘hijacking’ when someone you disagree with posts information/facts you can’t stand. I get it.

    And stay on topic. This is about the Oakland OWS crowd. The crazy weird people with an unknown rapper spouting crazy violent words. That’s what the focus is on. Now about what Republican may be our President next! That’s peanuts compared to some smelly protesters!

  78. #178
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm, SHoward said:

    Well, if Spacey does show up, she’ll know where to find ILMC.

    About three dozen adults with toddlers and school-age children formed a “children’s brigade, gathering at Oakland Public Library for a stroller march to the protest in downtown Oakland.

    He’ll be in the stroller with the uncontainable carp flowing out the bottom and the most disappointed looking mother of the bunch pushing the stroller with one hand and chugging a Colt 45 with the other.

  79. #179
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    When it comes to allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace and how they are handled, it is obvious that you do work alone.

    You have no clue at all what transpires.

    I had an employer whose candor I respected. We were told in management training that in the case of a sexual harassment complaint the only consideration was the finanacial well-being of the company.

    Once a complaint ocurred the focus was on limiting finanacial damage. They told us point blank, truth was secondary, facts were secondary, individual careers were secondary to the financial exposure.

    I can attest via direct observation that was in fact how they were handled. I saw a manager forced into early retirement by a flat out, verifiable lie. But retiring an innocent person early was the cheapest option, so an innocent person was tainted and he had to explain things to his wife, when he was guiltless.

    If you are going to be a skeptic with Herman Cain then you’d best be universally skeptical. You can start will Bill Clinton, a convicted perjurer, who lost his law license for it.

  80. #180
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Just be in Oakland, CA tonight and tell those OWS people what you think.

    If the OWS parasites in Oakland were ever in a standup fight they would all have urine puddles underneath them.

  81. #181
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:47 pm, Flyoverman said:
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm, kentroyals5 said:
    When it comes to allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace and how they are handled, it is obvious that you do work alone.

    You have no clue at all what transpires.

    I had an employer whose candor I respected. We were told in management training that in the case of a sexual harassment complaint the only consideration was the finanacial well-being of the company.

    Once a complaint ocurred the focus was on limiting finanacial damage. They told us point blank, truth was secondary, facts were secondary, individual careers were secondary to the financial exposure.

    I can attest via direct observation that was in fact how they were handled. I saw a manager forced into early retirement by a flat out, verifiable lie. But retiring an innocent person early was the cheapest option, so an innocent person was tainted and he had to explain things to his wife, when he was guiltless.

    If you are going to be a skeptic with Herman Cain then you’d best be universally skeptical. You can start will Bill Clinton, a convicted perjurer, who lost his law license for it.

    I do work in an office..just not for a company. I do understand that many companies settle just to have the complaint go away. I get that.

    About Clinton..okay..you won’t catch me defending his actions and perjury. Yup. There goes another bullet out of your chamber. You got me! Ahh! Oh, no. haha

    This story is about Cain’s transgressions. He’s starting to remember bits and pieces and more stories are coming out. This is beginning to sound like a pattern. That’s a concerning pattern of character flaws for someone looking for my vote.

  82. #182
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    But if Cain is trying to be my President, I’d like to hear more. If you think he’s handling this poorly, can you imagine when he’s the man in charge of our country. Yikes.

    Why? You annoited Obama without even asking for his academic records?

    Oh yes, this black guy is a conservative and thus off the plantation. Well, isn’t Herman uppity!

  83. #183
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    If the OWS parasites in Oakland were ever in a standup fight they would all have urine puddles underneath them.

    They don’t do standup unless they are in overwhelming numbers. Their preferred method of attack is hit and run when the opposition’s back is turned.

  84. #184
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:59 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm, Flyoverman said:
    But if Cain is trying to be my President, I’d like to hear more. If you think he’s handling this poorly, can you imagine when he’s the man in charge of our country. Yikes.
    Why? You annoited Obama without even asking for his academic records?

    Oh yes, this black guy is a conservative and thus off the plantation. Well, isn’t Herman uppity!

    I personally don’t think academic records are incredibly relevant to my choice of President. You thought Obama was unqualified as a recent U.S. Senator. How about the pizza man? Come on.

  85. #185
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:01 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm, martin.musculus said:
    even one song from a group no one seems to have heard of called 10CCs…

    Used to play 10cc as a DJ on the college radio station (since they wouldn’t let me play Robert Palmer’s Sneakin’ Sally Through the Alley). The funniest part about 10cc is how they supposedly derived their name.

  86. #186
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm, spaceycakes said:
    Just be in Oakland, CA tonight
    or what?

    Uhhhhh….errrrrr…..uhhhhh…or I will try to taunt you a second time.

  87. #187
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm, Hillbillyjim said:

    I am sure, under Ms. Napolitano’s guidance, that we definitely need to deem these dangerous people “TERRORISTS” and issue several position papers proving that Ms. Napolitano is an uncommon idiot. It is dangerous to go around with freedom and shxt.

  88. #188
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm, Blackstone said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    He’s starting to remember bits and pieces and more stories are coming out. This is beginning to sound like a pattern. That’s a concerning pattern of character flaws for someone looking for my vote.

    Since when is partial, slow recall of some long-forgotten event a “character flaw”? If someone asked you about some random event from way back in your life – maybe someone having accused you of something, for example – from 1995, would you have instant recollection of everything that transpired?

  89. #189
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    You thought Obama was unqualified as a recent U.S. Senator. How about the pizza man?

    The Pizza Man? He Delivers!

  90. #190
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm, right_on said:

    what’s wrong with the geezers anyway?

    They are disgruntled life-long Democrats, tired of having to make excuses for, and defend the likes of the Neo-Democrats, AKA, Progressive Socialists. This is what always happens when liberal “truths” get exposed for the prevarications they are.

    Remember, the Gray Panthers? That was a group of Democrat/Socialists who had Marxist leanings.

  91. #191
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm, spaceycakes said:

    cabrerski said: The funniest part about 10cc is how they supposedly derived their name.

    same way as ‘The Lovin’ Spoonful’

  92. #192
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm, PetefromNJ said:

    Typical lib behavior, OWS Oakland vandalizing: http://t.co/G3w6fBpf

    Yes, they’re just like the Tea Party. /sarc

  93. #193
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:37 pm, cabrerski said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm, spaceycakes said:
    same way as ‘The Lovin’ Spoonful’

    Alex Trebek: Whew! Good thing that was the final answer in that category today on Jeopardy.

  94. #194
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm, spaceycakes said:

    don’t get me started on Double Jeopardy!

  95. #195
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm, TigerLady said:

    It’s like if a kid has chocolate all over his face and tells you he didn’t eat the cake. I would think you may have some further questions for him.

    What about a white spot on a blue dress? I didn’t hear a lot of extra questions for that one.

  96. #196
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I personally don’t think academic records are incredibly relevant to my choice of President. You thought Obama was unqualified as a recent U.S. Senator. How about the pizza man? Come on.

    I love it. You ASSUME Obama got a degree from the institutions he claims to have attended. That is how little you know about the man with his finger on the button.

    But you are so desirous to supposedly know ever hair follicle on Cain, while the country slides towards the abyss.

    Look, look, over there. See, see, the darkie be off the plantation. He’s hitting on white women.

    This is so bogus. One of the “victims” attorneys spent the day spewing all over the media and finally admitted he did not even have a copy of the agreement. His “eager to come forward” client has told him to shut up.

    How wonderfully inconsistent. Don’t think. Feel. With libs its all about emotion and feelings.

    Go to Mark Levin’s site and listen to the first 30 mintes of todays broadcast. I doubt you want to listen to the facts.

  97. #197
    On November 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 pm, mondamay said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm, Flyoverman said:
    I love it. You ASSUME Obama got a degree from the institutions he claims to have attended. That is how little you know about the man with his finger on the button.

    Personally I found Obama’s “give Grandma a pill” and “typical white woman” comments creepier than anything Cain could ever say, but as that doesn’t advance Kent’s narrative that Cain and Bachmann are blithering dolts compared to the President, those comments (and a cornucopia of others) have no bearing on 0′s negotiation and leadership skills.

  98. #198
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 am, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 8:49 pm, TigerLady said:

    It’s like if a kid has chocolate all over his face and tells you he didn’t eat the cake. I would think you may have some further questions for him.

    What about a white spot on a blue dress? I didn’t hear a lot of extra questions for that one

    You’re the one comparing Cain to Clinton. Nice. Loser.

  99. #199
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:53 am, corkie said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm, kentroyals5 said:

    I do work in an office..just not for a company.

    But you do have your license with a broker-dealer, right?

  100. #200
    On November 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 am, kentroyals5 said:

    On November 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I personally don’t think academic records are incredibly relevant to my choice of President. You thought Obama was unqualified as a recent U.S. Senator. How about the pizza man? Come on.

    I love it. You ASSUME Obama got a degree from the institutions he claims to have attended. That is how little you know about the man with his finger on the button.

    I still don’t think a college degree is necessary to be President.

    And you’re a supporter of Herman Cain. He didn’t know China has nukes. Talk about supporting a brain-dead candidate. My goodness.

    Look, look, over there. See, see, the darkie be off the plantation. He’s hitting on white women.

    Way to play the race card again, Jesse Jackson. I’m pretty sure Republicans have taken ownership of the entire deck of race cards. HAHA..Hilarious!!

    I realize you enjoy Herman’s talking points about plantations. It doesn’t get beyond the fact that this man is a business man who is working you and your kin for $$. He’s not going to be President. But you’ll buy his book, his one-liners, and his ignorance. You’ll listen and agree with anything he says.

    I guess he’s now your master. Slave.

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