Video: Gingrich/Cain Debate
**Written by Doug Powers
Between the LSU/Alabama game and semi-raging bonfire in my backyard I knew I wouldn’t be able to give the Gingrich/Cain debate/discussion the proper attention, so I recorded it. Right now I’m about halfway through the video, but if you missed it, you can watch the entire event below.
The discussion was 90 minutes and divided into three parts, with each section focusing on one entitlement: Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. The event was hosted by the Texas Patriots PAC.
If for some reason the embed below doesn’t work (or you want a larger picture), C-Span has it here. Video from the Media Research Center by way of The Right Scoop:
What did you think? I like the format, which offered a chance to feature a couple of candidates speaking to issues in greater depth than the normal formats which usually only allow for enough response time to rattle off a series of pre-scripted sound bytes.
The next full GOP debate will be Wednesday at Oakland University in Michigan.
Update: Great closer… in the final part of the debate, the two could ask each other a question. Gingrich asked Cain what’s been the biggest surprise about running for president, and Cain asked Gingrich, “If you were elected vice-president, what’s the first thing you’d want the president to assign you to do?”
By the way, there’s exactly one year to go until election day 2012.
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I think Newt and Herman both did great. It is refreshing to have people not bite the others heads off in a debate. Those running need to focus on bho and how they would un-do what his little slug has done since elected?
O/T, for any here who live in OK, have you had any damage from all the earthquakes happening in the last two days?
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Any format which allows the voter to have direct contact with the candidates works for me. I’m tired of the media deciding who gets to run before a single vote is cast. I’m tired of the crappy questions the media decides are important. Too many are driving the narrative at the expense of hearing the truth. I hope that this election causes the rule books for both parties to become irrelevant. We have to have the country back and playing the usual political game and colluding to decide who will run the country won’t work anymore.
Gingrich has very little chance (if any) of winning (“25% polling cap”, another recycle candidate plus the personal baggage) but he could be a major asset for Cain as his stalking horse.
If Cain continues to deepen and broaden his support to the point that the GOP establishment (and embarrassingly catty and disloyal “conservative” blogosphere) decides that their candidate can’t win but they’ll be damned if a conservative, no less a black conservative, wins the nomination and worse, wins the WH, Cain is going to need help. The traditional money, consultants and experienced staff will not be their for him. Even if they are, they cannot be trusted to give him good advice.
As we’ve seen with other conservatives, particularly Bachmann’s campaign, conservatives cannot afford to cooperate with the establishment machinery or you end up with an Ed Rollins as your campaign manager. You need experienced people around you that you can trust.
Gingrich could be just the ticket for Cain. He may not be the guy I want as president but he would be a major asset for Cain down the stretch. Any conservative is going to need special help. It’s not about qualifications, it’s about fighting the establishment. We saw what the Rovian progressives did to Joe Miller in AK after he wrested the GOP nomination from corruptucrat Murky Murkowski. Not only was those trite and phony “Reagan rule” and “Goldwater rule” agreements violated, the Rove crowd financed and did the blocking for Murkey.
I’m on a rig in Sherman, TX, about 160 miles south of OKC, and I didn’t feel anything, but they said people as far away as Wisconsin felt it, which is weird.
PP – what’s a stalking horse?
Someone who operates to prevent/deflect attacks for another candidate.
That was the whole point of running a RINO stampede. The problem is that the Rovians ran a very poor field of stalking horses. There is no Huckleberry fighting off Romney to pave the way for McCain this year. That is trouble for the Rovians hence the shamefully dirty tactics, tactics that are backfiring.
As I just said on another thread…
Cain and Newt
What a Hewt!
I love the two of them together.
I do think there are a few of the candidates who are probably seeing the writing on the wall and will drop out soon. Gary Johnson (I think that’s his name), Huntsman the democrat, Rick Santorum,who I love, but who doesn’t have a prayer (pardon the pun).
Remaining will be Romney/Perry who will cancel each other out. Perry will go down in flames and Romney will continue to make us gag, but will continue to be lauded by the media. He needs to be gone, but how do we get rid of him? Newt, Herm, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann. That is the field. Take it or leave it, we have those choices! Who could wipe the floor with Obama? My vote would be Newt. Yes, he has issues. They ALL do.
Just picture each of the candidates against Obama, in a debate, in advertising, speaking truth to power. Who would do the best job? I seriously think we can eliminate Ron Paul too. He is a great Senator, but POTUS??? Um, NO. Picture a debate between Obama and Ron Paul. What a joke. Obama would make Paul out to be a total kook.
I’m not sure we can count paul out? He has gobs of people who just dearly love him and if he feels he could get away with it, I would not put it past him to go 3rd just to split the votes? Anyone who goes 3rd will 100% see bho is re-elected, IMO.
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The Ron Paul threat to the GOP is not that he has a chance of winning the nomination but that he would be a killer candidate should he decide to run independent. He would more than cancel out the lefty independent liberals are almost certainly going to produce.
The left has organized Americans Elect confident that they will put a “centrist” (aka alternative liberal) on the ballot of at least 48 states. That could surprise a lot of people.
Just as the OWSers have stolen the Tea Party thunder in the minds of Americans, so does Americans Elect threaten to cut off another Tea Party avenue for failing to aggressively pursue alternatives to LOTE and noseholding.
Americans Elect may throw the election to the RINO but that would be a major defeat for the Tea Party as liberals again win by steering elections away from an incompetent liberal Democrat for the benefit of winning with a less incompetent but just as liberal traditional Republican.
The conservative movement is lagging liberals in online fund raising, online organizing and in bold ideas. Liberals talk liberal and vote liberal. “Conservatives” talk conservative but vote liberal. We need to change that and right now.
I totally agree. Paul would take a lot of votes away from the GOP candidate, especially if that nominee is Mitt! Then, Obama will get four more years. I would not think too highly of Ron Paul if he did that! It would be his fault that Obama has four more years to complete the destruction of our country. AND, in a debate with Obama, he would come across as nuts.
There you go again, talking through your arse. This is too serious to have Ron Paul running third party!! Grow up. Ron Paul has some good ideas, but he is a rabid Libertarian, bordering on nuts. I agree with 85% of what he says. It’s that other 15% that is deeply troubling and totally unacceptable to the majority of voters. The Independants would never buy into his schtick.
If the GOP insists on cramming another liberal Democrat down our throats and Ron Paul runs independent, Paul has my vote. I would not normally vote for him but he would be the best conservative on the ballot and he is electable which satisfies the non-existent Goldwater Rule (that Goldwater himself didn’t follow).
The GOP establishment understands that I my position is very widespread. I listened to former Bush speechwriter and Rove hachetman David Frum last Monday on KABC voice the party concern for running someone like Romney who could lose even without a 3rd party threat.
Conservatives cannot win if “conservatives” insist on pledging to vote liberal. No nose holding in 2012!
Here is what is happening these days in the Super Committee. Lamar Alexander is leading the charge to increase spending by changing the discussion away from cutting spending to reducing the rate of growth. Oy.
The GOP is hopeless.
Phil…Ron Paul is a colorful character with some good ideas and some terrible ones. When push comes to shove, the American People will not elect someone like that in this critical time in our country’s history. He is NOT the solution, but could definitely become part of the problem!
The Super Committee is hopeless and we all knew that when it was formed. You can’t put 1/2 far-left loonies in with 1/2 mostly middle of the road Republicans and expect them to compromise. The only compromising would be done on the right. The left won’t budge, count on that! We can only hope the right doesn’t sell the country down the river in order to get something passed!
That committee was a joke and a huge mistake! It is doomed to failure and just puts this country in worse shape than it was. How did they think this was going to work? You have John Effing Kerry on the Committee, for Gods sake!!
Ron Paul is not the solution. But if he is the lesser of three or more evils, he is electable. We are already heading into a 3-man race without a single conservative candidate. We need to get out of our echo chamber and pay attention to what is going on with the liberals and they are fearing a major 3rd party threat of their own, maybe two or three.
It’s up the Republicans to decide if they can change. I agree with Mark Stein, they won’t change because “conservatives” just cannot break out of their calcified mindset where they talk conservative but always end up voting liberal.
If we can’t get a majority of “conservatives” to agree on a virtually painless no-brainer like raising the so-called retirement age to solve the social security problem, how can we expect to rally around the more painful solutions that are necessary?
I hope that there are 3-5 real races next year so that whoever wins does so with the lowest winning total ever. That would negate the establishment in the WH and empower the Tea Party influence in the House.
Why don’t we discuss THAT instead of the standard noseholding, LOTE default. We can’t win if we willingly program ourselves to lose every year.
I’m sorry Phil but I can’t discuss this issue with you in depth because we have a basic idiological difference. But I will say, if we can keep the House and add more conservatives AND take the Senate, we have a fighting chance, even if Obama is still in. Of course, he would veto everything, but wouldn’t that make him look, well, like a stoopid obstructionist? Yes it would.
I DREAM of a Republican (mainly Conservative) Congress majority…Harry Reid DONE as Majority Leader and Pelosi silenced once and for all. THAT is a dream that is totally possible in 2012.
1) Unless the extra 1 to 3 candidates are all on the left, Obama will win.
2) It does not matter how much Obama wins by. He could win with 25% in a 5 way race, and he would still be able to rule exactly the same way as if he had won unchallenged with 98% of the vote. The only thing that checked how Clinton ruled was the Republican Congress elected in 1994. It did not matter that the was elected by less than 50%.
But you know all of this. For you it is Anyone But Republicans, and to hell with the consequences.
Fortunately, a Paul third party run will fizzle badly. The people who vote for him will all be guys like you who never would have voted for the Republican anyway. He could easily draw more votes from Obama.
Sorry, Happy, but it would not matter one little tiny bit if it makes him look obstructionist. The media will be cheering every veto like crazy, calling him the Best President Ever courageously standing alone against the horrible, heartless Republicans trying to destroy America.
Roland: You need to plan that Obama will win. Putting more conservatives in Congress, state and local positions will help.
Are you going to give up if Obama wins?
Ron Paul is the closest to what the majority of the Founders embraced for this country. I’m with them. You want more of the same, keep voting the same. Me, I’m trying something different.
The epicenter of the two quakes have been in Prague, OK which is 70 miles SW of Tulsa. Minor damage for the most part.
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/5-6-earthquake-causes-significant-damage/UWVm88GEd06RFdXi5h3Nmg.cspx
Thanks for asking letget
If bho does win and we have the house and senate, bho will just do as he has been doing, going around congress and the courts with his handy dandy eo pen! bho and team have a plan to make us under a one world rule? Believe it or not!
My faith tells me, God blessed our Republic and still will if we can get us back in order! I do not believe for one minute bho will side with Israel and that would see to it we are toast! We need a person who believes and will help Israel against the rop type that want them and us off the face of the earth. That is the way I see it, but that is just me.
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I didn’t watch the debate but have read/heard some great reviews.
Cain would gave a great chance but since the media and the GOP are against him I’m afraid. If the GOP did support Cain, it would ruin Cain since “the establishment” would try to mold and remake Cain to their likeness. Cain is running a non-traditional campaign which is part of his higher poll ratings.
Newt would be a great VP or a “behind-the-scenes” guy.
Unless something REALLY changes, what happened last time will happen again … The media will elect Obumer. Since the Rs don’t have a @ucking set of balls to run a hard hitting campaign against Obumer and the Ds….we may well be screwed again.
Yes, I fear you are right! Sigh.
Of course not. But I’m a “then we will fight in the shade” kind of guy.
Sorry Rogue, Ron Paul’s foreign policy ideas suck. And we need someone who is right on the money in foreign policy. Someone like John Bolton. The world is too dangerous to put foreign policy in the hands of a Ron Paul.
happy #27,
EXACTLY !!
The latest little gem out of the mouth of paul.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/11/06/paul-says-drone-strikes-make-more-enemies/
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HI HAPPY_SCRAPPER–#15. The “super” committee is designed to fail–it’s a suckers setup. The RINO republicans will fold and give Comrade Obama the bucks He needs to move ObamaCare forward. If the RINO’s don’t cave (and the sun rising in the West might happen–hah!) then The Messiah and His Ilk will just gut Defense and Medicare a bunch more to get their stash recharged. You don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to see this one coming down the pike.
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Voting Him and His democrat and RINO congressional and senate Ilk out of office is the only chance we have. 366 days and counting down.
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John Bibb
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100% AGREE!
Sorry, I disagree, our current foreign policies suck and have for many years. I no longer want our military to be nation building in countries that could care less about us. I for one do not want one more soldier to die in undefined and unconstitutional wars. They do not make me feel safer.
What about Ron Paul wanting to be “friends” with Iran?
“Mr. Paul told Fox News’s Chris Wallace that he opposes sanctions on Iran. Citing continuous reports over the last decade that Iran was close to making a nuclear weapon, Mr. Paul sounded skeptical that Tehran was about to do so.
In any event, he said, sanctions were not the way to dissuade Iran from becoming a nuclear state.
“Sanctions are acts of war . . . Don’t put sanctions on them,” Mr. Paul said. Offering friendship to Tehran could be more productive than punishing Iranians through sanctions, he said.
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The problem with Ron Paul is not that he opposes nation building. Many of those of us who think he is a nut also oppose nation building, and many others who think nation building can be useful would hold their noses on that issue and support him anyway, if that was the only problem they had with him.
Paul does not just oppose nation building. He blames America for the savagery against us. Those are two entirely different things, and they are indicative of entirely different attitudes about the relationship between America and the world.
You cannot just vote for a policy, Rogue. You have to look at the man and his reasons for having the policy, because when it comes time to implement the policy, the reasons will define how it is done.
Paul does not see us as holding back the darkness in places like Korea. He sees us as being the problem. So jerking the rug out from under the South Koreans without giving them time to prepare to defend against the North Korean menace is “not our problem,” since Paul doesn’t see North Korea as being the problem.
And that is just one gross example.
Paul would be incredibly dangerous as POTUS. A Ron Paul Presidency would throw the world into flames.
Steyn. Maybe you should finish the book before you start claiming that you agree with him.
So much for the pretense of being supportive of Cain (or Santorum, or Bachmann).
Change to to “end up electing liberals” and you describe yourself perfectly.
It is a toss up of what we now have in the wh and paul! Both are ding dongs, IMO.
L
I doubt it. I think that if he isn’t on the ballot, you’ll write him in, as evidenced by the second quote above.
1)Paul isn’t a conservative – he’s a proud libertarian and has been so for at least as long as he’s been in national politics even though he’s been running on the Republican ticket.
2) You’re right about the “non-existent Goldwater rule”. It was actually Bill Buckley who said that people should vote for the most conservative candidate who was “electable”. Most conservatives don’t agree with him, which is how we got the “unelectable” Goldwater and Reagan.
I’m not going to stay up nights worrying about Paul. He polls well with the lunatic fringe, but when it comes down to actually voting for him, I don’t think he’s drawn more than about 0.5% in a presidential election.
OK so Newt has old baggage, who in DC doesn’t these days? But he is too smart & logical to throw away. We need him in some position. Sec of State maybe, or….??
Why not POTUS? Just asking. Yes, issues and all! He is the most intelligent, knowledgeable person up there and is the most articulate and the one who could clean Obama’s clock. Newt and Cain are the only two left who I think would be good Presidents. I am serious. The others have major problems, including Michele Bachmann, as evidenced by her falling numbers.
Romney MUST be defeated at all costs. He would be another Juan McLame, only maybe a step up as a campaigner. There is something about him….he seems plastic, groomed, smarmy…most of all, smarmy!
Cain…President
Gingrich…Vice-President
Bolten…Secretary of State
Gulliani…Attorney General
Palin…Secretary of Energy
C. Rice…Secretary of Education
Swartzcoff(sp)…Secretary of Defense
Secretary of HUD…Santorum
Secretary of Homeland Security….none, partition it out to existing agencies and force them to talk to one another!
Need I go on? Such a dream team….
It’s funny to read some of this. Four years ago, Romney and Huckabee were considered the most conservative candidates. Now, Romney is seen as too liberal, as would Huckabee be if he had run again. Just shows how far right the country has moved since the advent of the Obamas. It’s a sort of “great awakening” that I think is going to be an enduring force not only in this election, but for at least the next generation – at least I hope so.
As long as you brought it up, the spelling is Schwartzkoff – and by the way, it’s “Giuliani” and “Bolton”. We don’t need secretaries for HUD, Energy or Education – we need to disband them.
Thanks for the corrections txvet2. Sould have checked before I texted. Your rejection of the three agencies may be correct, as all are duplication of state agencies now. I’d like to be sure of the ramifications though, before outright eliminating them. Might be some unintended consequences.
Wow, you pretty much nailed it! How about:
yaymm for Secretary of Common Sense and Good Judgement. You could advise the new POTUS on people he should appoint to high positions in the new administration! Obama obviously didn’t have one of those!!
Something to add to that. I think it’s our job to make sure the next generation understands this and most importantly why.
I thought it was a good forum and both guys did well. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if these two are the last men standing during the primaries. If the GOP were smart, they’d push for more debates like this instead of the LSM-driven ones that are a joke.
I agree. Why does the GOP continually allow the media to set the agenda and the rules for the debates? Let the GOP set the rules! They are the ones running for POTUS. The media has decided their purpose is to ask dumb questions that are focused on confusing the candidate and tripping him/her up! We need to stop letting them do that!
I just got to watch this event and it was great. It makes me wish that Newt hadn’t done such foolish things in his personal life 10 years ago. However, I am a little sick of people deciding who will be acceptable to the rest of the republican party or the country as a whole.
It has become clear to me that Newt has spent a great deal of time on the causes and details of many national problems. He seems to have the clearest explainations of his ideas and how they will improve personal freedom. For now, “the smartest guy in the room” gets my vote.
He would get my vote just to watch the debates between Newt and Obama.
You have no idea. Before Obama was elected, I was a moderate- literally, on a scale where 0 was liberal and 100 was conservative, I was a 52.
Now I’m one of those dangerous right-wing extremists.
More sick mofos on the left at an occupy in DC. Pushed an older lady down the steps. Just the beginning. Wait until next year before the elections.
I also like how the Tea Party isn’t getting any media coverage, right now, thanks to the OWS clowns. Instead of whining, kicking, screaming, causing violence and destruction, the Tea Party is out there hopefully fielding more common sense conservative candidates to run in the primaries and eventually get them to D.C. through the House and Senate. Obviously, the biggest prize is the WH with hopefully someone like Cain getting it.
Thanks, PP, for the answer to Stalking Horse way at the top of the discussion. appreciate it.
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NOW, I do NOT want a 3rd party vote giving Oblamo the presidency once again. He has done enough damage going around congress, et cetera, and No Matter Which Republican Candidate gets elected, they WILL NOT go in the direction Oblamo is going. Oblamo will have scores to settle and will misuse his powers immensely just to get his communistic/socialistic agenda through.
No other RINO, Republican-Lite, or mainstream candidate will be that bold, or will be able to pull the scam on America that Oblamo has pulled.
Ron Paul will divide the vote. Oblamo will go at twice the speed of light to get his legislation ram-rodded through, including his executive powers that he keeps on abusing. The Repubs will look like Jack the Ripper had just gotten to them, if Oblamo gets back in.
That means DO NOT SIT THIS ONE OUT. Vote in Primaries, let your opinions be heard, but DO NOT let a 3rd party candidate (a la Ross Perot)lead to getting another 4 years of misery. We will LOSE this country if that happens. Carville played it like a champ on that call – agitating people to go for the 3rd party. It worked.
Revenge may be the Lord’s, but Oblamo does a pretty good job of exacting revenge on anyone who opposes him. Get.Him.Out.
I can hardly wait until MLK’s dream becomes BHO’s nightmare.
Hopefully, someday soon BHO will be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.
Was watching the Sunday Show with the panel including Juan Williams. They were discussing Cain. They all believe that Cain won’t be in the running. No hope for our hope. But, then again, the panel was “the establishment” so to speak. Other than a simple flash-in-the-pan Romney will be it.
Except for Juan.
Surprise. Juan pretty much acknowledged Cain as a possible leading man.
Damn, we have so many fronts to fight on.
Juan is such a face-palm inducer. On one hand you wonder how he can remain a dem and then on the other hand, face-palm, how can he be so dumb. I think he secretly wants rid of Oblamer as much as we do and is quietly cheering the Cain run ! (Because Cain is black of course – the fact that he recognizes Cain would be a much better Pres. is a bonus)
On November 6th, 2011 at 8:09 pm, SignPainterGuy said:
Juan is such a face-palm inducer. On one hand you wonder how he can remain a dem and then on the other hand, face-palm, how can he be so dumb. I think he secretly wants rid of Oblamer as much as we do and is quietly cheering the Cain run ! (Because Cain is black of course – the fact that he recognizes Cain would be a much better Pres. is a bonus)
As some of you have noted, Gingrich is far and away the most knowledgeable of the top tier candidates. He is also the best debator. He also is inclined to shoot from the hip occasionally though and has that ten year old baggage to deal with.
Nevertheless, he is a viable candidate for either the Presidency, or the Vice Presidency. I’d like to see Cain and Gingrich run, in either of the two options. They would make a formidiable pair in the campaign and a terrific combo as the President and Vice President, which ever way that were to go.
My first preference is Cain-Gingrich, but I could deal OK with a Gingrich-Cain.I just don’t know about the rest of the electorate with Gingrich as President and Cain as Vice President.
I concur… I would prefer a Cain/Gingrich – but I could live witha Gingrich/Cain. No, not perfect, but much better than what we have now.
NightOwl #58′
Yeah, I guess I am.
Juan makes sense sometimes and sounds to me like a really moderate small letter republican. I wonder why he stays a dem ? He`s made a career of it and isn`t giving up now ?
I do indeed see him supporting the black candidate, regardless of party.
Hey, did we have the fall time change and I missed it ? My TV and `puter say it`s an hour earlier than my watch and home clocks ! Where have I been ?
Yeah, we did (at least the States that do it) happened EARLY this morn.
I’ve seen it before… he’s been institutionalized. Much the same as people that have been in prison for a long period of time. They just don’t know how to make it without an enforced schedule… told what to think, when to think, when to eat, when to sh!t, etc.. etc…
It’s really kinda sad… to see what could’ve been a fine person chained to the plantation, then when freed runs back to the only structure he has ever known. Sorta like a horse that runs into the burning barn… sad, but understandable.
NightOwl,
Thanks, I thought I`d been swept up by space aliens …. again !
But I could have sworn we did it a few weeks ago ! Reminder: Gotta get out more ! Talk to people !
Yes, sad indeed, especially the frightened horses !
As my ‘ol buddy Hannibal was fond of saying:
First principles, Clarice. Simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?
NiteOwl,
Hmm hmm hmmm ! Naw man, beans n wine; a recipe for gas ! Bad date !
THIS. I see people all the time saying that since we have such a weak field, we should concentrate on the House and Senate because even if Obama gets re-elected against a weak candidate, a more conservative House and Senate will be able to stop him and at least we’d just have gridlock for 4 years. Um….are these people crazy? Just look at the past three years and how Obama has done what he darn well pleases, employing executive orders by the dozens, ignoring what he doesn’t like from Congress and the courts, getting involved in Libya without congressional approval, ignoring the Fast and Furious subpoena, telling the Justice Department not to defend the law (DOMA), and directing his unelected bureaucrats to make whatever laws/rules/regulations he can’t get done by executive order. Control of Congress doesn’t matter is Obama is still in the White House. (And that’s even IF the Repubs in Congress didn’t fold at every available opportunity, which the last year has taught us that they will, even so called Tea Party Repubs.)
Another poster also said that the media would be his cheerleaders, lauding him for standing up to the big bad obstructionist Republicans. This too is true and the Dems would probably get a huge PR boon out of it.
Since it’s so critical to get Obama out, let’s all do our best to see that Mitt isn’t the nominee!!!
That is so funny! My better half today was talking about cooking “suckling pig” or some such thing and off the cuff without thinking I said “God, I hope you don’t kill it while it’s still alive.”
The point I was trying to make is I hoped it wasn’t being cooked alive – kinda like good lobster.(MMMM Yummy ask MO if you’ve never tried it, ‘course she may tell you to eat cake.)
Obviously, I looked and felt very stoooopid.
The point of that little rant is that is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Not sure why I felt the need to tell you that… hmmm, guess I’ve removed all doubt!
NiteOwl,
To be honest, I wasn`t really sure of your point, didn`t get that from it, so thanks for explaining (sliding hand over head)
It`s late and I`m beginning to nod.
I was considering saying, “Thanks for all that, but I really do prefer women !”
Either that or asking for a good “kidnap victim recipe, `cause ain`t into John sushimi !”
Looking at tonight’s discussions, I have a few observations:
1. Not every Republican who gets on TV is a conservative, so watch for their ‘establishment’ bias. It DOES NOT surprise me that the same ‘establishment’ Repubs are so eager to write off Cain.
2. A conservative third party vote at this juncture will give Obama the power he craves. It saddens me that Ron Paul and I agree with Everything except his foreign policy; even during a time of the US pulling its punches to deal with necessary threats because of our economic disintegration, you still need to be wary of those who would harm us. Ron Paul just does not understand this.
The bottom line: Under no circumstances should we elect ANYONE except a conservative who will carry the conservative fight into the White House for he or she will be under constant barrage from day one, and a Mitt Romney/Rick Perry will fold like a cheap suit. I don’t think they would even last 4 years in office, let alone be re-elected.
Unless someone more suitable comes along, my choice is with Herman Cain.
You don’t happen to have a good “kidnap victim recipe” do you?
I’m just asking ’cause I think Dexter would like one too:
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told.
Catherine Martin: Mister… my family will pay cash. Whatever ransom you’re askin’ for, they pay it.
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
[to his dog, Precious]
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Yes, it will, Precious, won’t it? It will get the hose!
Catherine Martin: Okay… okay… okay. Mister, if you let me go, I won’t – I won’t press charges I promise. See, my mom is a real important woman… I guess you already know that.
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Now it places the lotion in the basket.
Catherine Martin: Please! Please I wanna go home! I wanna go home please!
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: It places the lotion in the basket.
Catherine Martin: I wanna see my mommy! Please I wanna see my…
Jame “Buffalo Bill” Gumb: Put the ****** lotion in the basket!
I’m with you on that… I don’t see anybody else at this point that would meet the required domestic agenda, however he will need serious help in foreign policy.
Do you mean Norman Schwarzkopf?
A Cain/Gingrich ticket would be fine with me. Or throw Bachmann and Santorum in that mix.
Gingrich has the brains to annihilate OBlowMe in any debates.
Unfortunately, neither the RepCon primary voters — nor the electorate in general — have the collective brains to vote for Newt.
The goal is to defang Fedzilla by evicting as many DemLibs as possible.
I know Newt dumbfoundingly sat on a bench with Nasty PelNazi and embraced global warming, but I’d still prefer his intellect being in charge over anyone else’s.
Sallah: [catches date and points to dead monkey] Bad dates.
Apparently they are really threatened by Cain. Another harassment accuser is coming out and being represented by Gloria Allred. Press conference is at 1:30.
That’s the problem with this sort of thing. It’s just an accusation. It can never be disproven. Just find somebody with less than stellar ethics that happened to be in the right place at the right time and make them an offer.
I think a lot of folks probably missed it. There was very little said on TV this time or in the papers. I didn’t see it on-line either. Not sure why. My husband was on his way out the door for church yesterday at 6:45 and I told him he was going to be an hour early. He was completely surprised!
It is surprising that our nanny-state media and government didn’t remind us a thousand times, as they think we can’t do anything on our own!
Looks like Cain has a 4th accuser – I think his run is over.
Yes, that’s what they said about McCain last time. And, months ago conservatives, presumably like yourself, wrote him off because many, presumably like yourself, focus on form over substance.
Gingrich is rising in the polls because he’s the most qualified for the job. Anybody who listens to him, and is aware of his Congressional record, knows this. Any conservative who wouldn’t pay to see him debate Obama is no conservative.
So, go ahead and support yet another RINO for President. Like liberals, some conservatives just have to suffer more before they’re going to get it.
Phil said:
FIFY. The only thing OWSers have stolen from Americans is tax dollars…
I think Cain is still pretty much on top, even though he may lose a small percentage of his support over these allegations. If he survives the onslaught (and I think he will) he will continue to grow as a leading candidate to defeat Obama.
If he does not survive, Gingrich, with his several faults, will likely catapult to the top of the heap. People are simply too disillusioned with the rest of the field for many reasons.
The fourth victim will come out in the interview later today. We’ll wait and see if she’s credible. Got to wonder though, where have all these wmen been since the late 90′s? How come none have ever come forward in Cain’s twenty plus years since then?
Oh well, politics as usual, especially when both sides fear the candidate. We will eventually learn where these issues came from and it will tar the responsibles forever, unless something other than the nebulous allegations we’ve seen so far, comes out.
So how’s Occupy Mom’s Basement working out?