A Christmas Tree Tax? Update: Implementation ‘Delayed’
**Written by Doug Powers
When I read that the federal government was getting involved in the Christmas tree industry, I couldn’t believe the first order of business wasn’t to remove the word “Christmas” from the name. Maybe that’ll come later, but for now the Obama administration is trying to help during a down economy, which of course involves a new business fee, which will cost consumers more. I can feel that recession lifting already.
From Heritage.org:
President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees — the Christmas Tree Tax — to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.
In the Federal Register of November 8, 2011, Acting Administrator of Agricultural Marketing David R. Shipman announced that the Secretary of Agriculture will appoint a Christmas Tree Promotion Board. The purpose of the Board is to run a “program of promotion, research, evaluation, and information designed to strengthen the Christmas tree industry’s position in the marketplace; maintain and expend existing markets for Christmas trees; and to carry out programs, plans, and projects designed to provide maximum benefits to the Christmas tree industry” (7 CFR 1214.46(n)). And the program of “information” is to include efforts to “enhance the image of Christmas trees and the Christmas tree industry in the United States” (7 CFR 1214.10).
The fee is 15 cents on all fresh trees for growers who sell more than 500 trees a year, a cost that will no doubt be passed along to consumers.
I looked around a little and found an article in the Miami Herald that goes into this more from the growers’ perspective. The alleged point of the fee… or tax… or levy… whatever — is to stem the growth of the artificial tree industry to promote the sale of real trees (by making them a little more expensive?):
Akin to similar programs that promote milk, beef and cotton, the new Christmas tree program will impose on U.S. domestic producers and importers an initial fee of 15 cents per tree.
A 12-member board will direct the money to generic ads and other promotions, as well as research. The promotions, according to the Agriculture Department, will present “a favorable image of Christmas trees to the general public,” with the intent of improving the public “perception” of Christmas trees and, hence, their sales.
Okay, the betting pool starts here: How long will it be until the first “Federal Christmas tree tax” waiver is issued? Probably when the first Christmas tree farm is unionized.
If real tree sales don’t pick up as a result of this initiative, look for a “cash for artificial tree clunkers” program to be introduced by next Christmas to get the faux alternatives off the streets.
Update: Implementation of the 15 cent per tree fee is reported to be delayed. Does this mean a couple months of President Obama going around the country saying “pass this Christmas tree jobs fee”?
**Written by Doug Powers
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Why would they want to present a favorable image of Christmas when the liberal left has been trying to erase it from our culture? Their hypocrisy knows no bounds where there is money to bleed.
Is there a law imposed by Congress and signed by a President that gives the Dept of Ag the power to impose the tax ? Or is this more of Obama ruling by fiat ?
HUH
How the hell did this get past our Republican representatives?
Is the Artificial Christmas Tree industry going to counter this with a 14¢ “fee” to encourage consumers to chose non-live trees?
Fake maple syrup?
“Bath salts”?
WTH could be next ? ?
The Halal food tax was also in the bill. Right? Oh wait……………
Obama is a pig. Nothing but a swine.
THE WAR ON CHRISTMAS CONTINUES!!!
The economy is imploding and this is what they spend their time on.
Obama’s team is beyhond inept.
I am so confused. On one hand I am supposed to save trees (recycle – be green) and now they want me to purchase trees that are cut down. I thought we were supposed to save the trees!
Uh, please excuse me, I have to go and violently throw up.
Unveiled just past the point of no return for most families that have already argued Real or Fake, whom to invite.., what to serve etc.
Nope, no coincidences in Obamaland. Forcing us to morph into something outside our normal scope of choices yet again. It was called the Tree Party, right?
I’ve already Gone Galt. What’s left? I’m really beginning to identify w/ those that migrated to escape The Dust Bowl. Choking on regulation, surrounded by a desolate landscape and foraging to survive. Oh and Merry Christmas everyone!
I wanted to post some kind of comment on this, but really I am speechless. The insanity, the illogic, the mind-blowing stupidity seems beyond comment. This whole article really says more than I ever could about how the federal government is so out of control that nothing is beyond their touch, and how their “solutions” are so obviously worse than the problem, which in many cases (like this one) isn’t even a problem at all.
Ralph at Heritage Blog said:
Yep. Your choices are, 1) PAY the freaking tax and resent the damned thing all thru the Holidays w/ a constant reminder just how much this Administration wants to control your life 2) get a fake one, which no doubt is already being marked up by vendors, or 3) buy one, burn it and start a new Family Tradition by roasting marshmallows right at the lot.
Mr. pResident, YOU sir are a total scumbag. Happy Ramadan….
Meaning: it will start at 15 cents, and go up from there.
Now here rather is a revenue-raising idea that we all can get behind: a tax on stupid. Start with Congress, and by the time you get through the three branches of federal government, the deficit will be wiped out, guaranteed.
Yep, too good to pass up.
http://www.timbertax.org/getstarted/christmastrees/
This HAS to be from The Onion:
1. Obama doesn’t go to church, hence he doesn’t care about Christmas. Or Christmas trees.
2. It’s not “Christmas” — it’s the “Winter Solstice Festival”. Didn’t Shipman get the memo??
3. If you want to increase sales of REAL Christmas trees, logic would dictate a $15 tax on those aluminum jobs!!
Three big reasons this is a joke — no logical person in this administration would implement such a tax.
Wait… did I say logical??
I take it all back.
I wonder if this is some sort of ‘gift’ to the environmentalists that see Christmas trees as destructive to the enviroment?
What would prevent Obama from appointing enviro-whackoes to this board and then have them run ads that condemn cutting trees down just for Christmas? I wonder if they would then be sued by some group for using government money in support of a religous holiday?
We sure have a lot of hate filled groups of people in this country!
There are people being paid large salaries (for life) by you and me – who sit in offices we provide for days, weeks, months and do absolutely nothing but come up with inane brainstorms like this – the purpose of which is ultimately nothing more than to perpetuate their jobs coming up with ever more ridiculous projects and programs and devise ways to pick our pockets to fund them.
I’m not paying the $.15 – I’ll cut my own tree. I just finished battling our state DeptofAg last week over mind bogglingly stupid and useless regulations and rules at our business. These b@stards are trying to put us all out of business.
Who is John Gault?
Link to the Christmas tree tax.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2011-11-08/html/2011-28798.htm
swede,
( Similar run-in w/ the SEC ) And yes, you’re exactly right. We PAY for these clowns to look at smut or whatever else they do and in return, we get more regulation!
Some have become so defeated/compliant, they don’t even make a PEEP any more. But this is different, Bammie very much intended this to have a psychological effect. And it has.
I’m w/ you and that 4th option. You bring the saw, I’ll bring the half-pint.
Ah, but their plan is to eventually tax the Christmas tree out of existence. There is no hypocrisy, just part of their plan.
How about a betting pool on when the tax and the Christmas Tree board go away? I’d take never, but it’d be hard to collect. Or, we could have a pool payable every year on what the tax will be for the next year, and/or on the total number of bureaucrats hired by the board during the year.
Does that mean they will use the Christmas tree tax to come up with a catchy ad slogan like “Pork: the other white meat”? Maybe we should help them come up with one. How about, “Santa’s coming. Got milk under that tree?”
On second thought, maybe they plan to offer a Cash for Clunkers program. I still have an artificial tree with the old, non-LED lights. Think they might offer me $500 dollars to trade it in on a new live tree? It makes as much sense as giving half a billion to Solyndra.
Dear Doug Powers,
I know you’ve been busy scoping out the 15 cent tax on Christmas tree sellers and so I assume that you haven’t had the time to retract your absurd post about Sarkozy asking Obama for bailout money.
You cited the Washington Times in your piece and yet anyone who followed that link found that it had been taken down.
Guess it was fallacious and/or poorly sourced.
I haven’t seen a retraction or even an “update”.
I’ll stand you the 15 cents extra you assume you’ll have to be paid for your Christmas tree this year if you’ll explain your story.
Leave it to the government to tax Xmas trees! SHEESH!!!!
sue was cool to elect a lazy, Marxist, 1/2 black guy to the presidency, now lets get back to reality and get rid of him, his left wing nut people in every dept. in Giverment and all RINOs.
This kind of crap is what you get with a liberal, commie. Get ‘em out my country and take an illegal with them when the go.
the 99% hit hardest
I AM.
Exactly. Like all things liberal they start out under the guise of being for your benefit…then bamn you get screwed!
I know I’ve said it on this blog before but I’ll say it again
WE CANNOT GET RID OF THIS pRESIDENT FAST ENOUGH!
The Board will explore:
1) Why Christmas tree sales are so flat in August?
2) Why does the industry have a spike in sales from Thanksgiving to Christmas?
3) Why do customers buy pine trees instead of ferns?
4) Would it be easier to just abort the Pine cones rather than cut down adult trees?
Boston Tree Party!
Taxation withoiut representation is tyranny!
No Doug, the bet should be how long before the Burka Manufacturers Association petitions for a federal board to advance its products? Then Easter Egg coloring kit manufacturers, Menorah Fabricators of America, Consolidated Krishna Doll Purveyors, Prayer Rug Makers Union – they are ALL going to be shouting foul.
It is a clear violation of the FIRST AMENDMENT. If helping the sale of now Christian religious symbol is not “respecting an establishment of religion” then I’ll eat one!
If teacher’s are not allowed to lead a classroom in prayer because the teacher is somehow ‘Congress’ and the prayer is somehow ‘making law’ – then so is the government directly helping the manufacturers of a religious symbol thus promoting that religion.
What?! No exemptions for my aluminum tree with the color wheel?! This is a piece of real Americana for crying out loud!
Looks like Harry sat on a pinecone.
Just another excuse to expand the size of government, adding more Lefty voters dependent on government.
Notice, the bigot slipped in when everyone was sleeping.
CHANGE FOR OBAMA!
Will a Turkey tax for turkies bought between 11/20 and 12/20 be next?
By doing it this way consumers are not directly impacted and there will be less of an outcry.
It’s not a tax because no federal revenue is involved? What about the salaries for these new bureaucrats? That’s federal money!
Cut the budget of the Dept. of Agriculture.
This reads like something out of a Kurt Vonnegut novel. Can we expect the appointment of the Handicapper General (maybe Diana Moon Glampers) next?
A Christmas Tree Tax…. I’d laugh if I weren’t crying so hard.
Yet, another nudge from the left to convince we, the people that the phrase in the Constitution should have been freedom “from” religion. Another example of unintended consequences–how much unemployment will be caused when people stop buying real trees? Is this a test balloon to see if it flies well, is a palm frond tax or menorrah candle tax in the works?
The thought occurs to me now… we all need to start WORSHIPING every commercial product in the commerce clause under Article 1, Section 8!
Then the EPA cannot tell us how much coal we are allowed to burn for HOLY ELECTRICITY. Declare education as a religious exercise, (as it once was…), deify gasoline powered vehicles, internet access is one big religious icon, etc.
It would set us all FREE again! Goodbye FDR, goodbye staggering federal spending and debt that all started accumulating back in 1937.
BTW, for those of you who aren’t familiar with Vonnegut’s work, “Harrison Bergeron” is a brilliant short story full of what used to be political satire, but sadly, much like “Atlas Shrugged” and “1984″, seems to be coming to fruition.
The text of it is online here, if you care to read it.
On November 9th, 2011 at 3:50 am, HarryBailey said:
Ev’rybody got problems,buddy.I got mine.
When midnight comes around, I start to lose my mind.
When the sun puts out the light,
I join the creatures of the night,
Oh yeah.
I’m a sleepwalker.
I’m a night stalker.
I’m a street walker.
I’m a night hawker.
I’m a bigot
I’m allergic to freshly cut pine trees. Shouldn’t I get some sort of bailout $’s because I can’t have a live tree?
Thank goodness!
Everyone knows what a poor image Christmas Trees have in the US!
And, the Christmas Tree industry?! All those Scout troops employing child labor and all! Yes, Christmas Trees and the industry need a massive, expensive, taxpayer funded makeover!
/s
Here’s a thought: butt out and leave Christmas alone, stop the existing First Amendment violations of stifling, muffling, squelching, censuring, prohibiting and oppressing people’s
Christians’expressions of Christmas and the image and marketing will be totally unnecessary. No wait, I think it’s already irrelevant.What’s the $0.15 really for? To fund a new gubmint program to sponsor trips to Mecca for Hajj?
I haven’t bought a tree for about four years, so I guess I ‘went Galt’ in advance?
Waiting for the Ramadan Prayer Carpet Tax in 3,2,1…
I’ve been reading in the Obamacare handbook, on page 1623 it states all partridges in a pear tree will be taxed .20 cents per day. If said partridge has been range fed and tended by the Range Fed Partridge Raisers Union of the World the tax will not be imposed.
Tax a Christian today,you’ll feel better!
When I read that sentence, the first thing I pictured was the scene from Christmas Vacation with the tree strapped to the roof of the station wagon roots and all.
Moral of the story: Bring a saw.
In the same vein of taxes…
Why the hell are the Rs flexible
We’re screwed …. again.
Click on this link. It is unbelievable. It just goes on and on and on and on with rules and rules and rules. I couldn’t believe it. This administration is trying to smother us in paper.
How long will it take for small producers to limit their production to 499 trees? How many big producers will break up their business into smaller entities that each produce 499 trees?
Geez…I did click on the link to the Christmas tree tax. Oh my God…
This administration is trying to take over the world. King Obowmao wants to rule everything. Time to dump his a$$ in the harbor along with the trees.
Rogue, are you going to tell us the story of how the angel got on the top of the Christmas tree?
There’s nothing funny about this behavior. The government and it’s political overlords are tasked with nurturing and encouraging healthy commerce, just as foreign government do for their economies. Not our corruptocrats. They are acting as would enemy agents for whatever reason they may choose.
Congress needs to initiate legal action against this administration immediately, and on multiple fronts, to call out these unlawful actions, including those that have attacked the oil, coal, mining, pharmaceutical, healthcare, and fishing industries. There is no excuse for this. Real people have to start facing the hangman’s noose.
Obumble is beyond satire and parody.
Happy Festivus !
The pinecone actually penetrated his ancient orifice and… OK that’s another story I was thinking of.
And if a “fat arb”/juicy deal spills out onto the pool table Friday afternoon while imbibing $1 pounders.., I’ll think about it!
Your shot Jack…
Bring out more wine and Wagyu! Make mine bloody rare and soaked in Stolychnaya! The roof is on fiaah, more freaky deaky oh yeah.
39 pages 2,211 lines and 17,698 words. Unbelievable.
drbarge said:
‘Test balloon’? Ya’ think! I’m w/ Darthnoob, Festivus Pole it is!
Look, it’s no secret having a tree farm is one of the best tax dodges ever devised. Half the state rep’s in Oregon have them! When your Accountant suggests it as a cure to all your ails..?
But this naked grab ( again w/ ZERO debate ) is clearly not how to go about it. Turning Credits into Deductions, fine. Installing a new ‘tax’ as they’re being loaded onto the truck..?
More stunts right out of the Marcos Playbook.
I’m shocked. Everybody is missing the point here. This is a brilliant debt reduction plan that must have come from the Super Duper Committee. If 100000000000000 Christmas trees are sold, the national debt is wiped out. It’s genius!!!!
The rule specifically addresses ‘Christmas Trees’.
Many vendors now don’t sell ‘Christmas Trees’. They sell ‘Holiday Trees’.
Are Holiday Trees, therefore, exempt from the fee?
“…industry-funded…” my ass.
This had to of been in the works for many months. Sheet like this doesn’t just appear overnight.
Somebodyhell, lots of people HAD to know this was coming.Oh, wait, whistle-blower’s have been charged and punished for coming forward. Is that what happened?
And at this point, I drive to my parents’ 100+ acres covered with oak, hickory and CEDAR trees and cut my own.
Is that the same as a non-white not paying the tanning tax?
/sarc
Another reason to celebrate Festivus. From what I understand, Pole Taxes are illegal under the voting rights act. Let’s see them get around that one.
My Aching Back! What gets more publicity than Christmas? They need money to promote selling of Trees?
Give McDonalds an image boost Obama. Michelle has been after them since 2008 (that is when she ain’t scarfing one down).
All this time I thought only Congress had the power to levy taxes. I guess the first clause of Article 1 Section 8 was more of a guideline than a hard rule.
In the near future, we will be saying,
“MERRY TAXMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.”
Millions of Americans out of work, the economy in shambles, debt threatening to destroy the country, and this j@ck@ss Obama can’t think of anything better to worry about than Christmas trees? Breathtaking.
tree farmers already have their own promotional association:
http://www.christmastree.org/
How wrong you are! This admin pretty much is doing whatever it pleases, our near worthless Imperial Congress having ceded authority to TEH WON by its silence and inaction on his admins policies.
In a rational world, TEH WON should have been impeached by now and he and just about every member of his criminal admin either already imprisoned or headed that way.
ECON 101: Tax something, the price goes up, and people buy less of it.
Next up, the BATF will impose a 100% fee on firearms and ammunition which will fund a commission which will start a campaign to ‘improve the image’ of firearms and ‘promote’ the firearms industry.
He’s simply taking the intial steps in preparing the foundation for a dhimmi tax. What better way to begin than by taxing Christmas trees.
At the end of the day, some actual person (and I use the term very loosely) had to have the final say on approving this. How can we find out this person’s name? I’m am sick to death of nameless, faceless apparatchiki creating these kinds of rules with no accountability.
Ignoring the 1st Amendment violation…
As others have mentioned, anyone with the slightest concept of economics knows that if you want to boost the sale of real Christmas trees you don’t tax them – you tax their competition; you place an import tax on artificial Christmas trees then use THAT money to endorse the sale of the real ones.
Of course Obama and his band of idiots have already proven they don’t have the slightest concept of economics.
Jizya.
Of course they have a concept of economics – marxist/statist economics. They hate capitalism and private enterprise and worship all powerful government. Which of course requires us to sacrifice tribute to our lord and masters in city hall, the state capital and DC.
What can we expect? This Mooslum POTUS is showing his true beliefs more and more all the time. Keep the faith, folks! We know how this turns out. We.Win.
ALl revenue is supposed to be generated in the House.
Who wants to put money on Boehner taking Obama to the SCOTUS woodshed over this?
Nobody? Yeah, that’s what I thought. And yet I’m supposed to believe if I vote for whomever the GOP coughs up and calls “our” candidate things will get better as long as we beat Obama.
We. are. so. screwed. And right to our faces, too.
You expect Congress to do anything? Dude – they’re totally busy!
Wonder when they will start referring to it as the “Holiday Tree Tax.” We sure wouldn’t want to offend anyone!
Dear squatter of the White House,
Leave Christmas alone please, it doesn’t need an image booster or your help in any way shape or form. Christmas I’m sure will survive with out federal support, however it is clear that the fed cant survive with out taxpayer support keep up the transparent work!
Regards, fake Christmas tree owner
Dear squatter of the White House,
Leave Christmas alone please, it doesn’t need an image booster or your help in any way shape or form. Christmas I’m sure will survive with out federal support, however it is clear that the fed cant survive with out taxpayer support keep up the transparent work!
Regards, fake Christmas tree owner
Does it mean that “holiday’ trees are not taxed?
What a bunch of whoey! Why create this tax? What does the administration want to have happen? Is it about raising more money or is it to squash tree sales? I never know what the hidden agenda is, since the dopes in DC seem to constantly create a different outcome for the effort.
Job creation bho style: create a tax and hire more gov employees.
I want a tax on prayer rugs!
So…how do they define “Christmas” tree, exactly? Is there a certain species called something like Pinus dominicus?
If Christmas tree growers want to promote their product, they can form their own group, elect a board and charge membership dues to fund advertising campaigns. Oh wait.. they already have organizations. But what the big growers want is for the government to oversee a checkoff program because they can get more exposure and more advertising bang for their buck by making the smaller producers/importers fund an advertising campaign that will drive more business towards the big boys.
The request for a Christmas tree checkoff programs comes from a group of growers who already have the majority of market share in the industry.
Obumer cancels tax.
Looks like the Sock Puppet and his minions have backed down on this – delayed is what they have said. The problem with everything this Ass hat does is, what is he up too as he waves one hand with taxes on Christmas trees.
Sounds like Jizyah tax to me!
“Jews and the Christians …should be forced to pay Jizya in order to put an end to their independence and supremacy so that they should not remain rulers and sovereigns in the land. These powers should be wrested from them by the followers of the true Faith, who should assume the sovereignty and lead others towards the Right Way.”
Mawdudi, S. Abul A’la, The Meaning of the Qur’an, (Islamic Publications Ltd., Lahore, 1993 edition), vol 2, page 183
Are these programs ever evaluated to see if they actually accomplish anything other than buying bureaucrat’s salaries and paying for PR and ad agency services? Mad Men <heart$> Big Govt. “Occupy Madison Avenue” anyone?
What’s that – $15 million or so? Obama must have a friend in the tree PR business who gets the money. Maybe someone he met at Man Country as they discussed small trees…
or the many uses of pine tar
Very curious- Obama did not kill the tax, merely delayed it’s implementation. So it is still on the books and can be implemented at any time. I suspect when there is a lot of other stuff going on to capture our attention he will quietly let it be implemented, and if caught he will just blame the bureaucrats: “I stopped that tax, but those guys didn’t get the memo, what can I do?”. Or if he is reelected he will just thumb his nose at us and tell us “I’m taxing your dam trees, deal with it! Now where was that list of other things to tax, it was around here somewhere…..”
The more I think about this proposed tax the more I believe its underlying ideas was to attack Christianity under the guise of helping Christianity. The secular left constantly uses this type of ploy.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111090001
More lies from the right. Enough said.