The real Cain scandal: Video cringe alert
It has nothing to do with anything Gloria Allred has her hands in.
It’s his continued lack of preparedness on, and familiarity with, basic domestic and foreign policy issues. Sorry, Cain fans. Tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But like Rick Perry, Herman Cain is just not ready for prime time. The real Cain scandal: He can barely form a coherent thought on Libya when put on the spot and garbles collective bargaining 101 facts.
This Milwaukee Sentinel Journal editorial board session — all on video, in all its prolonged cringe-worthiness — sums up the problem with the Cain Train. The paper’s recap:
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Monday that he believes public employees should be allowed to bargain collectively on wages and other benefits as long as it does not create an undue burden on taxpayers.
In Wisconsin Monday for two fundraisers, including a tailgate fundraiser at tonight’s Packers game at Lambeau Field, Cain met for a half-hour with Journal Sentinel reporters and editors. In the meeting Cain:
* Struggled to collect his thoughts and explain how his approach to the crisis in Libya would have differed from the actions taken by President Barack Obama.
…On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.
“But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”
Asked about last week’s vote in Ohio, in which the state’s new collective bargaining law was rejected by voters, Cain said that “maybe they tried to get too much and as a result it failed.”
Asked if the Ohio Legislature had gone too far in stripping collective bargaining rights for public employees, including fire and police personnel, Cain said that Ohio legislators “may have tried to get too much in one bill.”
Ohio’s collective bargaining law differed from Wisconsin in at least one key aspect: Wisconsin exempted police and fire personnel from the law.
In an interview with the Journal Sentinel last month, Cain said that he was “right in the corner of Gov. Scott Walker 100%” in Walker’s battle with public employee unions.
Cain also appeared to be unclear on the issue of collective bargaining as it involves federal employees. Asked if he thought federal employees should have the ability to bargain collectively, Cain said: “They already have it, don’t they?”
Told they didn’t, he said, “They have unions.”
The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 600,000 federal government workers in 65 agencies, says that most federal employees don’t have collective bargaining over pay and benefits.
Watch for yourselves. Take anti-depressants or a stiff drink first:
On Libya (listen for the part where he excuses his hemming and hawing by explaining that he has “a lot of stuff twirling around in his head”)…
And on collective bargaining…
Cain makes Rick Perry look like a Mensa president.
Where are my nose plugs?
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Oh dear. Please, Michelle hand out nose plugs to the rest of us, too….
It is what it is. Thank you, MM, for being one who looks at reality and does not blink.
I cant take the MJS word for anything, but would watch the video and decide for myself.
After all, the MJS stated in an editorial that Justice Thomas should have an asterisk after his name.
Cain’s worst enemy has always been himself. You want to root for the guy, but he gives many — too many — reasons for pause.
The donks can run a greenhorn like Obama for president and win, because they don’t care and their media arm will give “their” guy a pass. Not so with the Republicans, who have to be held to an adult standard. Cain can never hope to get away with the lack of preparation, knowledge and seriousness that Obama did.
Oh, well. Better to find this out in the primaries than in the general.
Sigh. Maybe Cain should follow TEH WONs example and provide the LSM with prescripted questions to which he can respond by using a laptop telepromter.
Alas for Cain, that option is unavailable for GOP candidates.
There’s always Romney. /sarc off
I’m sorry but a man like Cain does get where he has gotten without learning fast, and finding the right people to surround himself with. Especially, in the slim margins of the fast food industry. Screw up and you are done.
Cain’s expertise is on domestic issues.
He brings on John Bolton or KT McFarland as Secretary of State and the issue is solved.
Fact of the matter is that most candidates who become President aren’t much different from Cain. Most are unqualified to discuss foreign policy. They may BS better than Cain, but they seek out experts in foreign policy.
Contraire! Its because the donks do care that their media wing gave their chosen inexperienced dandidate a pass.
Actually infinite on-going passes.
And Newt Gingrich is now the frontrunner.
I think I’m either writing in Sarah Palin or myself for the primaries. Oy.
Conservative principles alone can take you only so far. You also have to have knowledge of history and current events — obtained from an unceasing curiosity about your nation and the world.
As much as I admire his BS in math and MS in computer science (me too!!), I know MUCH more about history and current events than he does.
I hope that Newt can somehow contribute to the next administration, either as POTUS or maybe debater-in-chief!!
I love Herman Cain:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4ecfd3a85f/herman-cains-campaign-promises-with-mike-tyson?playlist=featured_videos
The problem becomes, many of us cut HC some slack on foreign policy back when he first announced.
Even I said he’s got some ramping up to do! No one expected he’d become George Friedman of Stratfor in a matter of weeks but these are the same stumblings.
So, the character assassination attempt by the women isn’t working. What’s next? Mock his apparent lack of policy knowledge.
I don’t think Cain can contrast what he’d do in Libya since most of us can’t figure out what Obama’s agenda is in that conflict.
Maybe he should have just said that.
As far as collective bargaining… yeah, he tried to dance around that one and stumbled.
I like Cain but, realistically, after watching all the debates, Newt is the only one who can take on The One. IF obama had the guts to face him in debates, Newt would mop the floor with him.
A few weeks ago, I thought Gingrich was out of it. He’s peaking at just the right time. If the people can put aside his personal issues, he’s the only one who has it all, experience, knowledge and debating skills like I haven’t seen in ages.
My personal choice: anybody who can put obama out to pasture. This country can’t handle 4 more years of him.
I admit these 2 video clips are not very reassuring to a conservative – but i don’t really see any gotcha moments here MM.
on one hand, this does not bother me, since he is not a professional politician. but i am hoping he can get his act together very soon, although newt is starting to look better. but i am not sold on the sofa photo, or his still stepping in it on global whatumacallit. but cain would still be better then obama, please don’t lose focus. we do not have a perfect candidate, so we might have to vote for a flawwed candidate.
I have been for Herman since Sarah decided not to run. I have been with him on his krap gals coming out against him. If this is indeed proven to be fact, sorry Herman, not our vote. Gads, the choice is getting down fast, but it good to let us know before hand on our vote. And, I will add, I our home will NOT vote for paul! That should get some in a tizzy here!
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JT said -
I agree, which is why I’m sticking to my prediction on the GOP nomination.
But then I write a satire blog, so I always have plausible deniability or a note from my doctor, or something like that.
Ok, it’s down to Newt or Mitt, folks. Cain is likeable. Perry is too, in his fashion. Neither has the intellect for this job, not to mention the skills of managing an interview. Did he not know this camera was on? Oh, please. I don’t want to hear any more excuses from our conservative champions who just don’t cut it, period. Is it so hard to find someone with brains who is also conservative and doesn’t have a “past”? It’s a long way from the pizza parlor to the White House.
Lawrence said:
As… would be the case w/ a LOT of stunts Obie has pulled. Good point.
Absolutely
I have always liked Cain, but in the last month I have begun to have some serious doubts about him. Between how he stumbles over questions that by now you would think he would be prepared to answer to the handling of the allegations (which he should have expected would come up) I am seriously wondering just how badly he would be caught unaware of things as president. Some of it could be mitigated by putting the right people in the foreign policy posittions and in the role of press secretary, but he has to get there first. If he were to have these kinds of problems in debates against Obama or in interviews after the primary he would have a very tough time winning.
Thirdsecond party baby!If you say Cain’s strength is his domestic agenda, where does he get off saying that he’s for collective bargaining by public employees as long as it doesn’t raise taxes? Even 9-9-9 is not cutting it. You mean pointing out that states have sales taxes that would be additive to his national sales tax is supposed to be “apples and oranges”? And no, I do NOT believe all the built-in costs he claims will be removed by nein-nein-nein will make up for the double sales taxation. And do we have a name for a real economist that’s supposedly behind this idea? I mean someone who has a degree in economics, and works as an economist? I haven’t seen that name yet.
Too bad the MSJ didn’t interview Obama on foreign affairs.
Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw certainly didn’t!
On November 14th, 2011 at 5:23 pm, Chuck65 said:
Ditto!!
I’m curious if he also thinks businessmen also have the “right” to “bargain collectively” (i.e. collude and price-fix). I don’t see why it would be any different.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but my concern isn’t with how he’d handle foreign policy as President. It’s how he’d handle himself as Republican nominee. He needs to do better than this, stat.
An expression you might see over at Hot Air… Double Face Palm!
Sarah, oh Sarah, where art thou…
Great, hard-hitting post Michelle. Informed voters need timely analysis. That analysis is right here, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Thanks.
Looks like Ron Paul through attrition.
Paul/Bachmann or Bachmann/Paul.
Mitt will have a brain aneurysm from flip-flopping so much, so then the MSM and the GOP elites will have to turn to Huntsman. This is getting funner and funner. (munching popcorn) More cheese Gromit!
Wow that’s disappointing.
Michelle, if you chose your support based on a candidates preparedness, or on how they were able to explain domestic and international policy issues logically, you would naturally lean toward Ron Paul.
If you tried to give Cain the benefit of the doubt, why are you so anti Paul?
Mitt is for big government. Newt wants to sit on a couch with Pelosi and promote global warming, Perry has his problems as you mentioned and Cain is not equipped on policy issues, so naturally, Ron Paul is your logical choice.
Which one of Paul’s policies do you adamently disagree with so much that you continue to avoid supporting him? As I have said in the past, his stance on allowing Israel to defend itself and his promise not to give money to Pakistan, Egypt etc., puts Israel in the most strategic position of all. Just the fact that Paul would cut off funding to the Palestinians would do big things toward forcing those middle east welfare recipients to not terrorize Israel.
I have mixed feelings. Don’t like seeing Cain stumble, but every stumble by Romney, Cain or Gingrich is a step closer Michele Bachmann gets to the lead.
Pasadena Phil, at #22.
Ditto, babe. I don’t use nose plugs… never have, never will.
On November 14th, 2011 at 6:11 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
‘Looks like Ron Paul through attrition.’
Ron Paul isn’t the problem, it’s the electorate he is preaching to that is out-to-lunch.
Truesoldier said:
Right, for as much as Bammie is self-bludgeoned, ALL we need right now is to spoon feed him a ray of hope by letting him smell blood in the water.
In essence, and I’m not kidding here, what Obama will essentially run on is, “Any candidate you put up will burn his first two years in office just trying un-!@*& the mess I’ve made!”
On November 14th, 2011 at 6:11 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
Looks like Ron Paul through attrition.
Paul/Bachmann or Bachmann/Paul.
God help us. I’ve liked, Bachmann, then moved to Perry and I’ve finally settled on Newt. He isn’t perfect, but none are, and at least he doesn’t go spastic like Paul every time he answers a question.
Ron Paul, international policy, and “logically” cannot be found in the same universe.
Until Paul decides, “yeah, the U.S. can do whatever it wants, and the rest of the world has to put up with it”, he can go whiz up a rope. I’ve no patience or tolerance for these schoolhouse ninnies who can’t tell the bad guys from the good guys.
If the choice ends up being between these two polymorphs, disaster for the GOP in 2012. Only desperate establishment Republicans who have been asleep since 2005 can possibly believe that either Rombama or Eft can win in 2012. Unbelievable. Can The Stupid Party get even more stupid?
Oh how I wish Ryan or/and Rubio was in this race
The choice is clear for me with what we have, Go Newt!
Ron Paul’s foreign policy stance is much stronger than past or current administrations.
He would attack and defend against anyone who threatens the U.S. He would also not interfere with any other country trying to defend itself against agressors.
Currently, the U.S. props up Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Palestinian Territory etc., and then goes out of its way to keep Israel from acting on its own interests.
I like Cain personally, but he cannot really be conservative if he wants to allow Federal employees to bargain for benefits and wages. That implies the right to strike and shutdown government as well, otherwise they have no leverage to bargain with. Even the GOP RINOs are against that.
But even more disturbing is his position on abortion. He tries to be 100% on both sides of the issue:
Two days later, Cain tries to clear up his contradictory statements on abortion and confuses things even more:
EXACTLY! He could surround himself with experts once he got into the WH. But he has to win the election first. And he won’t. Not if he keeps screwing up. He may already be toast.
For those of you Ron Paul fans…ain’t gonna happen.
I am thinking that Newt will be the one. He is brilliant and can articulate like no one since Reagan. I love listening to him talk from the heart. This is no made-up baloney. He believes what he says. Yes, he has some past issues. Get over them. He is highly qualified to be POTUS and he would wipe the floor with Obama.
Again, Ron Paul is half brilliant/half nuts. It is the nutty half that is not electable. It isn’t like being half-black, folks!! Paul’s nutty half surfaces too often and takes him away to la la land. Picture him debating Obama. OMG
Man……. Cain? This is getting ridiculous. This late in the campaign, you can’t be coming up with blanks in your head when answering current, basic questions like this. This is very disappointing.
We already have a total disaster foreign policy-wise in the WH, we don’t need another no matter how likable he is. Cain has totally underwhelmed me – I don’t care about that or that he did well in business or that he was literally a rocket scientist, I want someone smart enough to have covered all his policy bases before he decided to run for President.
This isn’t an election for Homecoming king, it’s the PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, and seeing Cain constantly and continually stumble about on important policy issues disqualifies him as a serious candidate in my mind. We already had one President elected without any coherent policy knowledge and we sure as hell don’t need another. The abortion issue incoherence alone showed me he isn’t ready.
Actually it would be the fourth party. No wait, fifth. Sixth? How many active political parties are there in the US? Let’s see.
America First Party
American Nazi Party
American Party
American Populist Party
American Reform Party
American Third Position Party
America’s Independent Party
Boston Tea Party
Christian Liberty Party
American Heritage Party
Citizens Party of the United States
New American Independent Party
Constitution Party
Communist Party of the United States of America
Democratic Party
Freedom Road Socialist Organization
Freedom Socialist Party
Green Party of the United States
Global Green Party
Independence Party of America
Independent American Party
Jefferson Republican Party
Labor Party
Libertarian Party
Modern Whig Party
National Socialist Movement
New Union Party
Objectivist Party
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Peace and Freedom Party
Populist Party of America
Progressive Labor Party
Progressive Labor Movement
Prohibition Party
Raza Unida Party
Reform Party of the United States of America
Republican Party
Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Labor Party of America
Workingmen’s Party
Socialist Party USA
Socialist Workers Party
So the solution to this mess is another political party. Brilliant Phyl.
Ha!! Swede, you rock!!
Eeek. At least he’s raised his stature in the national spot-light. He’ll increase speaking fees, write more books, etc.
Not bad for a guy no one knew about a year ago.
I get that he was coming at this from the, “I’m a businssman” angle but geez. Basic foreign policy questions…I think this is worse than Rick Perry’s gaffe. It’s clear Perry had thought about it and just drew a blank in regards to the 3rd government agency he’d get rid of. This is just like Cain never thought about Libya before the moment the question was asked. No thanks.
Wow, I never thought after the conservative led beatdown in the 2010 elections that the 2012 GOP primary would end up being Mitt vs Newt before a vote had even been cast.
Pathetic.
Here’s just a few policies, off the top of my head, where I disagree with Ron Paul:
1) 9/11 happened because of America’s past policies. If we just left them alone, they would leave us alone.
Bologna! Muslim extremists are still seeking revenge for the Crusades. They would seek to attack us if we had left them alone for the past thousand years.
2) It’s none of our business if Iran develops nuclear weapons.
Iran’s leaders have already told the world what they plan to do with those nuclear weapons once they get them. If Ron Paul would choose to do nothing in a situation this obvious, he cannot be trusted to protect America’s interests in any situation — at least not until it is too late to prevent it.
3) An “Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq” is not the same as declaring war.
Give me a break! It’s even more specific than a declaration of war. The Constitution does not put quotes around the word declare. Since the meaning of declare is “To make known formally or officially” or “To announce”, the authorization voted on by Congress covers it. Even I knew what it meant. (Hillary claimed years later that she didn’t know, but we all know that she was lying to cover herself politically.)
In short, Ron Paul thinks the Constitution is a suicide pact and would therefore be a dangerous president. The fact that Dennis Kucinich would like to run with him is enough to show that his policies are mostly far left.
Just because our current foreign policy is a mess doesn’t mean his insanity is desirable.
It’s his definition of “threatens” that bothers me. We should have gone to “war” with Japan in the 1980s, but we didn’t. We should be going to “war” with China now. Paul is wedded to rules rather than the interests of the United States.
Only if Paul says something very close to the following will I ever support him:
He makes a speech like that, and I might reluctantly support him. He keeps saying how the War on Terror is our fault, and I’ll give him a punch in the snoot (figuratively speaking).
Cain says flat-out that he supports collectivist bargaining.
Toast.
Next Candidate!
We are f*cked if there is a third party… see Ross Perot.
Now I’m saying we can knock down the Republican party if they don’t bow down to the Tea Parties today. If 2012, doesn’t go well the Republican party is dead. The Republican part has ONE last chance to be relevant in 2012. After that, it is third party if they f*ck it up.
I keep seeing references to Paul going the 3rd party route if he doesn’t get the nomination. He ‘sort of’ denies it. If he does, it proves he’s all about his ego rather than concern about the nation. It would guarantee 4 more years of obumble and could finish this country. I always thought America could survive 4 yrs of any president. Now, I’m not as sure.
not saying
I’m beginning to think it was a good 232 years, and its over, we are Rome.
I’m not ready to throw Cain under the bus because of one brain cramp. He has done well in the debates (although Newt is easily the best of the group and would easily mop the floor with odummer in a debate). I still think Cain, Santorum, Bachmann are my front runners (in no order at this point) with Newt behind them and everyone else way behind them. It is still to early to rule out any of those four and I would encourage everyone to pay attention for awhile longer (there will be numerous debates and interviews in the next couple of months) before making up your mind. I don’t see why it takes 2 years to elect a president but since it does I see no reason to rush to judgement. IMHO.
There is nothing wrong with collective bargaining, as long as it is just that. They do not have the right to strike and shut down government services. And as Cain said, though not as articulately as I would have hoped, THEY CAN”T BARGAIN FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THERE. They have already been promised what the government does not have to give, and are demanding what does not exist – and now they want more.
There was nothing really wrong with the Lybia answer either, other than being distracted and unfocussed. He was asked (hypothetically) He ultimately gave a good answer. He would surround himself with experts and gather the best available information, then make an informed decision. Far better than a shoot from the hip hypothetical response.
Cain was unquestionably off his game here, and needs to pull it together – but I din’t see any reason to throw him under the bus. Better man than Newt or Mitt by far.
How many times do we have to point out that Bush 41 losing was a GIFT to conservatives? Perot made Newt Gingrich and the Contract with America possible (an opportunity which Gingrich wasted).
It was a good thing that Bush lost. It may bug the hell out of establishment Republicans that it took a Democratic president facing a Republican House to finally deliver on the Reagan Revolution’s goal of balancing the budget but Bush couldn’t reverse all of Reagan’s gains fast enough.
Neither Romney nor Gingrich will reverse the course of bigger and bigger government so let’s pray that there is someone like Perot available because lots of us will be voting independent AGAIN next year if Romney or Gingrich are the nominee.
This is it. There will be no “next election” for conservatives if we lose to the statists in 2012 and right now, they control who will pick the candidate for “both” Democratic parties.
And Cain embracing government employee unions is a deal breaker for me. Government employee unions should be illegal. “We the people” should not have a right to strike against “we the people”.
In my case, I will not vote independent, not when that guarantees the moron we’ve got now another 4 yrs – assuming the country lasts that long. I’ve done that in the past.
This time I will gird my loins, bite the bullet, grit my teeth, whatever it takes and vote Republican just to get this impostor out of office. And that’s regardless of the Repub nominee, even if it’s Ron Paul (God help me for saying it).
I’ve got principles but, as much as it would hurt, I’d set them aside this time for the good of the nation. obama must be gotten rid of.
Clue: Acknowledging the right to collective bargaining is not embracing unions, and collective bargaining does not include the right to strike, nor the right to demand what does not exist.
Tell me some more about my simplistic thinking, Dr. Phil.
Another look at Lon Huntsman?
On November 14th, 2011 at 7:59 pm, Bertram Cabot Jr. said:
Another look at Lon Huntsman?
I don’t know what to think about Huntsman. I usually doze when he starts talking.
He can’t be liberal, not having been elected governor of the most, or second most, conservative state in the nation. But, he comes across that way to me. I’m not sure what he is. Plus, I get tired of hearing every comment prefaced by “When I was governor of Utah…”
Somehow, I don’t think Cain rose to the levels he did in the biz world on brain power.
Agreed +
Clue: Acknowledging the right to collective bargaining
is notIS THE VERY DEFINITION OF embracing unions, and collective bargaining does not include the right to strike, nor the right to demand what does not exist.Need another clue there genius? Without the right to strike, unions have no bargaining power. That seems to be how you noseholders arrive at everything isn’t it? You ignore definitions. What planet do you live on again?
We are as screwed up as our political adversaries. We need a Chief Executive, not Mr. Fix It. Clinton convinced the country he was the Maytag Reapiman and could fix every little thing.
Frankly, we have fallen into the same trap. To solve problem in a manner befitting our hostess and most of our posters, The Preident needs to be a walking encyclopedia.
I want a President who can make decisions based on the information he/she receives from a professional staff. I am more interested in Cain’s decision making abiility and style than his core knowledge. The book is still open on that. He is being asked to state opinions on things that he does not have a background or information on.
Compare to Romney and Perry who had all of the knowledge and complete staffs and still made horrendous decisions.
Those of you who want the omniscient President are inconsistent with your stated view of how our Constitutional Republic should work.
Geez you is smart. That’s the point Einstein.
National Labor Relations Act gives labor the right to collective bargaining, BUT government unions and other essential services do not have the right to strike. Exactly what Cain awkwardly and tediously alluded to, if you bothered to listen. It’s the battle Reagan won with PATCO and Walker just won in Wisconsin. That’s why Cain doesn’t have a problem with CB, nor do I.
Back to you Professor.
*Although disappointed with his recent stumbling, I am still pulling for the Hermanator, for as he says, “How do you beat Obama, ya beat him with a Cain”; I am more upset that he hasn’t yet replaced Mark Block; That is a bigger problem for him.
*I still favor Michele Bachmann more than anyone else, but it is not meant to be; She is sharp on all the issues, and light years ahead of the others on the trust factor; Sigh!!!
*I continue to send coin to Jim DeMint for his SCF, because flipping the Senate is every bit as important as getting the enemy out of the White House.
Agreed. She was my first choice, but she’s just not ready for the big leagues. Don’t write her off by any means. She’s a great asset in the House and she’ll be a player in the future. Bank on it.
Thank you sir. Some people do nothing but bloviate, insult and complain. Some of us do something.
Cain was off his game today, but said nothing that should put him under the bus.
Ok, so lit’s take stock. Until this post, MM was fairly quiet about Cain. Her most visable actions being an inaction to point out false Cain allegations on one of her TV clips. At that time, it was hard to tell if she missed the point, or was simply letting the falseood linger. Of course, now we can see clearly she does not like Cain.
So, in the course of this campaign MM has pointed out, in no particular order, her dislike of Romney, Cain, Gingrich, Perry, and Paul. I do not recall her making any statements regarding Huntsman, but it seems she did not like him as ambassador.
This leaves her with 2 yet to be attacked choices, Santorum and Bachmann.
Any guesses out there who she will attack next? Will she move back to attacking Gingrich with the rest of the herd?
Does anyone think attack after attack is going to help any of these candidates? While the pundits always fall back on the old ‘we need to
attach until we run out anyone we dont likevet the candidates, what can possibly be left after all these scurrilous blog posts?At some point, many of these ‘hit bloggers’ are going to run off all their readers.
If we keep eating our young, then the media will certainly be happy to pick our candidate. Cain is as ready, or moreso, then the idiot in the white house.
Sorry Mark Block. You did some AMAZING work with the grass roots efforts here in Wisconsin a couple of years ago, but I am officially off the Cain Train.
I’m surprised how fast some want to throw candidates under the bus because the media and RINO establishment wants us to accept their chosen one.
There is almost a year left, and the media could easily tear down whoever they build up.
Each week with different debates, the media focused on a different candidate only to ignore them when they chose to.
Cain wasn’t even on the radar until he won a straw poll and the media was forced to look at him.
Other conservative candidates have been treated the same until they got the ones they want.
Since Gingrich is now supposedly the front runner, how soon before they start tearing him down?
You might want to think that one through a little more. Whichever one is VP will feel a strong urge to resign over the other’s Israel policy.
Don’t know, but in the case of Cain, he’s tearing himself down.
I have such mixed feelings about Cain…I just wish someone in this field would rise above the crowd. Cain is the only one I have heard that seems proud of America, talks about living the American dream. This is disappointing to hear.
I’d like to add for the edification of all the Paulbots that he gets a big fat F grade from NumbersUSA on his illegal immigration record. I live at ground zero of the invasion, no way in heck am I voting for him.
This will not be the end of Herman. It’s still early.
If he’s the problem solver he claims he is, he will fix his own problem now that it’s been so blatantly identified.
While I’m no fan of his tax policies, he’s still light speed ahead of Obumblears.
On November 14, 2011 at 10:25 pm, Blackstone said:
Allowing Israel to act like the sovereign nation it is, instead of a lapdog for the US, works for me. I’m sure Ron and Michelle could work things out.
I am got having a good feeling about the 2012 election. Every GOP candidate is getting trashed … by conservatives. Whose left?
Where are your manners?!
Frankly, I’m really tired of MM’s angry blogging and trashing people who don’t measure up to her level of public speaking credentials. She’s been doing it a long time. How about we see a couple of her early videos and decide everything we need to ever know about her by those early videos?
What we know about Herman Cain is that he is solidly conservative. By any measurement, he’s 90% at least, in terms of conservative credentials.
Let him learn to speak eloquently and brush up on his foreign policy. That he can learn.
It’s far more important that he hold conservative principles, which on this issue he runs circles around everyone else on that stage, with the possible exception of his equals in Bachmann and Santorum.
If you keep trashing Cain, we’ll end up with Newt cuddling up to Nancy. Will MM finally be happy then?
RomneyPerryGingrichHuntsmanPaulSantorumI’m not voting for Johnson, so I’m sticking with Cain. I’d rather a smart guy who knows he doesn’t know everything, than one who does.
“Let him learn to speak eloquently and brush up on his foreign policy. That he can learn.”
First, he’s old enough to have learned the first and he should have “brushed up” on ‘his’ foreign policy before now, because it sure seems he has no freaking clue.
And second, you don’t think that’s important? That a man who wants the American people to vote him into the most powerful position on the face of this planet at such an incredibly difficult time can’t answer most policy questions intelligently and with a plan?
You’re kidding, right? I’m not electing a know-nothing like that, in terms of conviction of his policies – not now, not ever. I like the man, but I like the mailman, the newspaper delivery guy and the mascot of the KC Chiefs too, but that doesn’t mean they’re qualified in my eyes to run for the Presidency of the United States.
Thank you MM, for a realistic, and honest assessment. I am sure some Cainiacs here will start blaming the “libruhl” media, Politico, (insert numerous other boogey-men here), for Cain’s flubs.
And you have heard her realistic honest assessment of Obumblears too, comrade?
Quite ironic, coming from someone like yourself lecturing Malkin about manners when it’s HER blog. You can disagree with her (as I do), but going for ad hominems and talking about her manners, is quite low of you. The nose plug comment is an expression, not meant to be taken literally.
Yes, I have. Next question, Cainiac.
After today’s Cain clip, I’m sure Ann Coulter is backtracking on her “our blacks are smarter than their blacks” analysis. Oops.
Is ModerateSucecessful like being half of a loser ?
You didn’t visit Republican precincts in 2008, did you?
Romney will be worse than McCain, noseplugs will have to be suplemented with emisis basins.
Or why is it that leftist parasites feel they are superior to their hosts?
Moderate is referring to Moderate with respect to ideology, not extremist/radical as you are.
I am a parasite who feels superior by defending Malkin in my previous posts? Oh wait, you’re just blowing hot air like you always do.
Romney, Newt, Perry, Santorum and Huntsman are all establishment amnesty backers. If the next President does not uphold the laws, we won’t have a country.
Why is none of you ideological comments ever moderate then, but always left leaning?
That’s not correct. MM has written very positively about Cain in the past.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/03/04/hey-eric-holder-meet-my-people/
There’s a difference between liking someone and thinking s/he is a good choice for POTUS.
This wasn’t a personal attack on Cain. It was a video of Cain doing an interview. It is all over the net. If you don’t like our candidates being vetted, you’re in the wrong party. If we don’t vet them, the media will. But there’s another party that refuses to do any vetting of their candidates and the media is happy to play along. That’s how we ended up with President Obama. I hope you’re not calling on our side to become more like them.
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Yeah, I know
“Brush-up on foreign policy,” with Iran so close to a nuke, is frankly, a stunning comment.
Cain is an interesting guy, who reflects the country’s desire for a politician that “tells it like it is.” But he has NO political experience and as we have seen, the Presidency is not a trainee position.
Newt is brilliant, but not smart enough to keep it in his pants. Quit with the “baggage” euphemism, it’s adultery. And serial adulterers don’t get my vote. Ever.