Nice friends you got there, Harry and Barry

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 14, 2012 02:09 PM

You know all that Democratic talk about getting big, dirty money out of politics?

Never mind.

Via Reuters:

National fundraising committees for the Democratic and Republican parties, President Barack Obama, and other major politicians have declined to return campaign donations totaling $1.8 million from Houston financier R. Allen Stanford, now on trial for allegedly masterminding a $7 billion Ponzi scheme.

The court-appointed receiver charged with returning money to Stanford investors obtained a federal court order last June against five Democratic and Republican campaigns. But they haven’t returned the money. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee received $950,500; the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), $238,500; the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, $200,000; the Republican National Committee $128,500, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) $83,345.

The contributions to the campaign committees and candidates were given by Stanford himself, Stanford executives, and a political action committee associated with the financier.

The receiver, Ralph Janvey, is also trying to claw back money Stanford donated to individual politicians. The list of his recipients reads like a who’s who of Washington, including President Obama – who received $4,600 from Stanford in his 2008 election campaign – Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), the chairman of the NRCC, and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. Janvey is seeking these funds informally, and has not filed lawsuits.

Money has already been returned by House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. John McCain, among others. But the roughly $154,000 recovered from elected officials is a fraction of the $1.8 million still outstanding.

The $4,600 Janvey is seeking from the Obama campaign reflects only direct contributions from Allen Stanford himself. The total may be as high $31,000 when Stanford’s contributions to Obama’s other campaign committees are included, along with money from senior Stanford executives, and the Stanford Financial Group’s now defunct PAC, according to campaign finance records and an analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics.

…The receiver first wrote to the Obama campaign five days after it gave the money to charity in 2009, asking that it instead be returned to investors.

“If you have already donated such amounts to charity, we request you consider donating an equal amount to the Receivership,” Janvey wrote back on February 23, 2009. “By returning such amounts to the Receivership Estate, you will help reduce the losses suffered by victims of the alleged fraud.”

More tainted cash out West:

Federal investigators have reportedly been handing down subpoenas in the case of a Nevada political operative who allegedly made illegal campaign contributions to politicians like Sen. Harry Reid, and who is also embroiled in a heated legal battle with former business partners that involves accusations about everything from murder threats to jewel thefts.
The case began with a lawsuit by Harvey Whittemore’s former business partners, Thomas Seeno, his brother Albert Seeno Jr. and his son Albert Seeno III, who accused Whittemore of misappropriating and embezzling over $40 million from Wingfield Nevada Group Holding Company LLC, a limited liability company in Nevada.

Whittemore is a lawyer and former lobbyist with political ties all over the state, and he and his wife have contributed tens of thousands of dollars to Democrats and Republicans alike, including Sen. Harry Reid (D), Rep. Shelley Berkley (D), Sen. Dean Heller (R) and former Sen. John Ensign (R).

The Reno Gazette-Journal reports that on Friday Sen. Reid and Rep. Berkley announced that they will be giving away the contributions in the wake of Whittemore’s legal troubles.

“Senator Reid has already donated the contributions made by Mr. Whittemore and his spouse to charity,” said a Reid spokesman. “His office will continue to review other contributions associated with Mr. Whittemore, and treat them appropriately.”

A spokesman for Berkley said her campaign would be “disposing” of the funds.

Last week, the Obama campaign finally decided to return funds from the crime-linked Cardona family:

When The New York Times asked the Obama campaign early Monday about the Cardonas, officials said they were unaware of the brother in Mexico. Later in the day, the campaign said it was refunding the money raised by the family, which totaled more than $200,000.

As recently as January of last year, one of Mr. Cardona’s brothers in Chicago, Carlos Rojas Cardona, arranged for the former chairman of the Iowa Democratic Party to seek a pardon from the governor for Pepe Cardona, according to prosecutors in that state. None was forthcoming.

Last fall, Carlos Cardona and another brother in Chicago, Alberto Rojas Cardona, began raising money for the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The Cardona brothers, who have no prior history of political giving, appeared seemingly out of nowhere in the world of Democratic fund-raising, Democratic activists said.

The money Alberto Cardona raised put him in the upper tiers of fund-raisers known as bundlers, according to a list released last month by the campaign. He and Carlos Cardona each gave the maximum $30,800 to the Democratic National Committee, and a lesser amount to a state victory fund. A sister, Leticia Rojas Cardona of Tennessee, donated $13,000 to the national committee, and another relative in Illinois gave $12,600, records show.

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  1. #1
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:14 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Harry and Barry”
    Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber.

  2. #2
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:19 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    You know all that Democratic talk about getting big, dirty money out of politics?

    Never mind.

    Pshaw!
    Chis Dodd got big money out of politics.
    Maxine Waters got big money out of politics.
    Nancy Pelosi got big money out of politics.
    I could go on, but, you get the drift.

  3. #3
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:22 pm, fuseman said:

    President Barack Obama, and other major politicians have declined to return campaign donations totaling $1.8 million from Houston financier R. Allen Stanford,

    a desperate act.

  4. #4
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:24 pm, 123upnorth said:

    If you continue to vote for social values candidates like Santorum, and also war-hungry ones too, there will simply be more of the same.

    Santorum is a big-government socialist, but yes, he is strong on social values and he does want to hit Iran.

  5. #5
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:29 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Once they are done laundering all of that MF Global loot, the DNC can then proceed to refunding this Stanford loot. After all, Stanford is going to prison. No one at MF Global has even been arrested. And they just don’t seem interested in tracing the missing money despite some high-profile offers by CNBC’s Rick Santelli and Gary Kaminski to do it for them.

  6. #6
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:40 pm, 123upnorth said:

    It would be so easy to find the money. The money would of have to have been transferred and any forensic accountant worth their weight would be able to find it.

    Just more elitism. The bigger government gets (or stays), the more this will occur.

    People complain, both on the left and right, but so few want small government in reality. It’s all crocodile tears in my opinion.

  7. #7
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    OT Prayer Request:
    I put my keys (car and house) in my checked luggage. Mrs. Acclaim is out of town. Please pray they don’t lose my suitcase.

  8. #8
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm, 123upnorth said:

    Clinton is already starting the propoganda that will motivate an attack on Syria.

    First, Clinton said they won’t send it troops unless Assad agrees.

    Then it was released that a Syrian defector claims that Syria is using chemical weapons on it’s people.

    You watch – in 6 to 12 months, America will send troops into Syria – another trillion spent with nothing gained.

  9. #9
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:44 pm, RedDog said:

    It’s hard for me to get excited over this kind of thing when these people have been siphoning trillions of taxpayer dollars directly from the Treasury, as well as their crony capital schemes and inside trading. This is toothpick money to them.

  10. #10
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm, Truesoldier said:

    O/T…Look what Anita Dunn is up to now….

    After attacking hedge funds and their managers during her tenure in the Obama administration, Anita Dunn is now working as a public relations consultant to improve the industry’s image, according to a secret proposal obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

  11. #11
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:53 pm, letget said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    I’m happy to talk about this to God for you.
    L

  12. #12
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:54 pm, Mister P said:

    123upnorth, your support for Ron Paul (thus attacking most of his opponents) would have more credibility if Paul and Romney didn’t have their cozy alliance. Don’t tell me Paul would not align with socialists.

  13. #13
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:55 pm, 123upnorth said:

    O/T…Look what Anita Dunn is up to now….

    Exactly.

    It’s all just a game. Anyone who doesn’t vote for absolute limited government will help the government continue to rape the people of their property and their freedoms.

    You can mock Ron Paul all you want, but your quality of life would be much better under his presidency than under Romney, Santorum or Newt.

    But, at the end of the day, people don’t want to put away their pompoms. People never outgrow their highschool mentality. At least most do not.

  14. #14
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:56 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    OT Prayer Request:
    I put my keys (car and house) in my checked luggage. Mrs. Acclaim is out of town. Please pray they don’t lose my suitcase.

    Been there, done that… had to scrounge a coat-hanger to get into my car.
    Praying you and your baggage arrive at the same place, at the same time!

  15. #15
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:56 pm, 123upnorth said:

    RP doesn’t have an alliance with Mitt. You just don’t want to put away your pompoms.

  16. #16
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:57 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Another day, another “green energy” company goes belly up:

    The Auburn Hills, Mich., company filed for Chapter 11 protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Detroit after it was unable to come to terms on an out-of-court deal with its convertible bondholders, according to Michael E. Schostak, director of business development at Energy Conversion Devices.

    At least this time it was a company that did not receive a DOE loan. They applied for one in 2009, but were denied the loan.

  17. #17
    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm, 123upnorth said:
  18. #18
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:02 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I think Pearl Harbour represents an ‘eminent attack’, but in general, I agree with Ron Paul on his foreign policy.

  19. #19
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm, Truesoldier said:
    O/T…Look what Anita Dunn is up to now….

    Anita Dunn is another one possessed with evil. Every time I think of that video with her tongue darting in and out of her mouth, I get queasy! And she LOVES chairman mao! Just another horrible creature connected to Obamao. Every single one of his cronies is corrupt.

    I have a feeling that Obama will have one more task to complete before he leaves the WH in January 2013. That is, he will sign a PARDON for all his cronies and for himself…with no expiration date. Can he do that? Why not? He has done everything else he wanted to. The hell with Law and The Constitution.

  20. #20
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:12 pm, Dr. Mercury said:

    Happy Valentine’s Day, Michelle.

    Old times:

    A Valentine’s Day Poem for Michelle

  21. #21
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:12 pm, Dr. Mercury said:
    Happy Valentine’s Day, Michelle.

    Old times:

    A Valentine’s Day Poem for Michelle

    You wrote that??? Oh my God, that is amazing. I have goosebumps head to toe!

    May I copy it into my journal of favorite poems?

    +500

  22. #22
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm, Oh-nO said:

    123up, if you think rp is the one to fix this problem we have, news flash, man (men in office) has placed us in this dire straight. Man is not going to get us out of this, only God will. I pray we elect a person who knows the power of prayer and divine intervention. My guess, rp could screw it up even better than the previous.

  23. #23
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:22 pm, Mister P said:

    RP doesn’t have an alliance with Mitt. You just don’t want to put away your pompoms.

    LOL!, he admitted it. Its “strategic” as in Survivor. My guess he has a commitment for some position with Romney. But what is funny is your mentioning pompoms. Is their a bigger cheerleader on this site than you are?

  24. #24
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:23 pm, 123upnorth said:

    He has said exactly the opposite. Why, because he defended him about his poor people comments?

  25. #25
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm, Mister P said:

    I think Pearl Harbour represents an ‘eminent attack’, but in general, I agree with Ron Paul on his foreign policy.

    He has no foreign policy.

  26. #26
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Dr.Mercury…I love your website and have added it to my favorites! :grin:

  27. #27
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm, 123upnorth said:

    You guys rail against big government from Obama, then you support Repub big government candidtates – that respresents cheerleading for your side in the same game. You pretend as though you are for limited goverment, yet you just want your side to be the purveyors of big government, not the left.

    I support limited government, regardless of who promotes it. I don’t care about which side or which candidate. I want limited government. You guys don’t.

    There is a huge difference.

  28. #28
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm, 123upnorth said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm, Oh-nO said:

    While God might teach you and inspire you, he doesn’t actually do for you.

  29. #29
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm, 123upnorth said:

    RP’s foreign policy is defend America from threats to the homeland, but don’t nation build, don’t spend hundreds of billions overseas. All the wars you guys are in will bankrupt you and you will become a militarily weak nation in the end.

  30. #30
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:31 pm, 123upnorth said:

    No one can call Santorum a fiscal conservative. Same with Mitt. Yet those two are the ones that are fighting for support among conservatives. Mitt gave you Romneycare in his home state, yet he is more acceptable to you than RP? And are you sure you guys are against Obamacare?

  31. #31
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:36 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I used to think that MM was a portal for true conservatives. But, the way conservatives here and elsewhere have treated RP, and to see who you guys and others have supported – despite their records – shows me that conservatives just want their team to win, without regard to what policy produces the best outcome.

  32. #32
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:37 pm, Oh-nO said:

    123, judging by your reply I hesitate to enter in to a theological discussion with you on the basis of your lack of a personal relationship with the true and living God, a God who does and will do, for me and all who call upon His Name. Lunch is over, back to work I go.

  33. #33
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:38 pm, 123upnorth said:

    Okay Oh-nO, you are right. God is the almight. Let me be humbled by his greatness.

  34. #34
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:41 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I see most everyone has left this thread. I wonder why?

    Buh-bye.

  35. #35
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:42 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    happyscrapper said:

    Anita Dunn is another one possessed with evil. Every time I think of that video with her tongue darting in and out of her mouth, I get queasy! And she LOVES chairman mao!

    Just call her “Mao Tse Tongue”!!

  36. #36
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:42 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    And, I’m out.

  37. #37
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:51 pm, sb36695 said:

    Birds of a feather, flock together.

  38. #38
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:53 pm, shimauma2 said:

    Snakes and Vipers, brigands, thieves, the swamp folk of DC would make a great adventure module if I had a big a$$ sword!!

  39. #39
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:55 pm, 123upnorth said:

    That’s right happy. You can’t defend your politics. No one can on MM. It’s just a cheerleading site for big government on the right. Most of you don’t have any principles. If a republican spends money – that’s okay. If a democrat does it – you call it socialism.

    You guys are socialists. Democrats are communists. Ron Paul is a capitalist. Get it?

    When you guys go bankrupt and are forced to scale back your military operations around the world and at home, and furthermore, when your dollar tanks and your standard of living drops 30%, what will you have to say for yourself?

    Let me guess……….will you say…

    ‘I liked Rick Santorum’s speech last night!’

  40. #40
    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:59 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:55 pm, 123upnorth said:
    That’s right happy. You can’t defend your politics. No one can on MM. It’s just a cheerleading site for big government on the right. Most of you don’t have any principles

    Then why do you bother. If it is sooooo bad here then go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to stay here and with the way you are treating posters here you are not going to win over any converts, so you are wasting your time.

  41. #41
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:01 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Big Baby Sweets: What’s up with my money, mother@#$%o?
    Hazad: Here. Please accept this personal check of mine.
    Big Stank: Man @#$% that! He done told you, no mother@#$%ing checks or money orders, b*tch.
    Lil’ Poot: That’s right, b*tch. Come correct son.

  42. #42
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:02 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:24 pm, Mister P said:
    I think Pearl Harbour represents an ‘eminent attack’, but in general, I agree with Ron Paul on his foreign policy.
    He has no foreign policy.

    Ah but he does, you just like the status quo. Keep feeding the beast.

  43. #43
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:05 pm, Hangfire said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    OT Prayer Request:
    I put my keys (car and house) in my checked luggage. Mrs. Acclaim is out of town. Please pray they don’t lose my suitcase.

    Murphy’s Law: Corollary #138

    The odds of airline luggage arriving at its destination is inversely proportional to the value of its contents.

  44. #44
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:06 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    s obtained a federal court order

    Court order? What’s that? It’s good to be King.

  45. #45
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:13 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:26 pm, 123upnorth said:

    You guys rail against big government from Obama, then you support Repub big government candidtates – that respresents cheerleading for your side in the same game.

    And you became clairvoant, when?

    Last time I checked I could speak for myself. If you want to speak for someone else, become someone’s press secretary.

  46. #46
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:14 pm, letget said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:42 pm, babiesgrandma said:
    And, I’m out.

    Me also! I get a tab ticked off when one here or the other one not here goes after faith.
    L

  47. #47
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:35 pm, love2rumba said:

    You can mock Ron Paul all you want, but your quality of life would be much better under his presidency than under Romney, Santorum or Newt.

    A constitutionalist is ALWAYS better than another Big Government enthusiast regardless of how they prefer to be addressed.

  48. #48
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:44 pm, Collateral Damage said:

    Corruption is as corruption does. What is really sad is that the average American, armed with a vote, has absolutely no idea of any of this rampant government corruption. Too busy playing “angry birds” on their cell phones, and “farmville” on their other devices when all it would take to wise up is a couple of clicks. WILLFUL IGNORANCE = STUPIDITY It’s nothing short of amazing how many really, really STUPID Americans there are out there!?!

  49. #49
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:50 pm, Mister P said:

    Ah but he does, you just like the status quo. Keep feeding the beast.

    And what exactly is that foreign policy?

    And who says I like the status quo? I just have not heard any foreign policy from Paul. Unless you consider doing nothing a policy.

  50. #50
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:56 pm, Mister P said:

    He has said exactly the opposite. Why, because he defended him about his poor people comments?

    Paul goes after every candidate Except Romney. That is all he has done. Romney has gone after every candidate Except Paul. Its an alliance. Obviously a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Romney.

    Its too bad Paul is such a weak voice for libertarianism.

    We have another example of Obama’s (Michele’s) this time with the theft of a young child’s lunch because it did not have meet the Nanny in Chiefs standards. They then gave her “chicken nuggets” and billed the parents. So if you want to raise you children as vegetarians say, then Obama could insists they eat meat instead. Its no longer a parents choice.

    Now what business is this of the government?

  51. #51
    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:58 pm, Hangfire said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 4:14 pm, letget said:

    Me also! I get a tab ticked off when one here or the other one not here goes after faith.

    Same here. She’s a babe, and has a great voice.

  52. #52
    On February 14th, 2012 at 6:29 pm, cabrerski said:

    First of all…great work Dr. Mercury!

    Secondly…

    …The receiver first wrote to the Obama campaign five days after it gave the money to charity in 2009, asking that it instead be returned to investors

    “Senator Reid has already donated the contributions made by Mr. Whittemore and his spouse to charity,”

    What are these “charities” that benefit from the ill-gotten gains. Chances are another political entity is reaping the windfall and probably returning part of the money, either in cash or in kind.

    I yearn for the day that political donations are reported fully and lose all their tax-exempt status. Of course, that will take place about the same time the perpetual motion machine is invented.

  53. #53
    On February 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm, OK_Loyalist said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:55 pm, 123upnorth said:

    You guys are socialists. Democrats are communists. Ron Paul is a capitalist. Get it?

    And you’re a flaming assh*le. That quality tends to be a prerequisite to being a Ron Paul supporter. The worse part of you, you aren’t even from the US, so who really gives a blue f**k just what the hell you think. Get It?

  54. #54
    On February 14th, 2012 at 8:04 pm, 123upnorth said:

    And you’re a flaming assh*le. That quality tends to be a prerequisite to being a Ron Paul supporter. The worse part of you, you aren’t even from the US, so who really gives a blue f**k just what the hell you think. Get It?

    Do you notice how not one of you challenges my assertion that you guys are going to go bankrupt, that you can’t afford to nation build, that you aren’t receiving any benefit from your removal of middle east tyrants. Look at how the Iraqi government is treating you!

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/13/news/international/exxon_mobil_iraq/index.htm

    And you are going to do the same thing in Iran, then Syria? It is crazy!

    Your government prints trillions of dollars, sends it to overseas banks and governments, devalues your currency, signs unfair trade agreements, causes the death of thousands of American soliders, manipulates your housing and stock markets, etc., yet RP is somehow someone you can’t consider?

  55. #55
    On February 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On February 14, 2012 at 12:14 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “Harry and Barry”
    Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber.

    The Bullet Brothers: Hollow Point and Dumb Dumb.

  56. #56
    On February 14th, 2012 at 9:02 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Rather interesting to see that putz McCain named here.

    Whodathunkit.

  57. #57
    On February 14th, 2012 at 9:05 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On February 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm, 123upnorth said:

    Clinton is already starting the propoganda that will motivate an attack on Syria.

    First, Clinton said they won’t send it troops unless Assad agrees.

    Then it was released that a Syrian defector claims that Syria is using chemical weapons on it’s people.

    You watch – in 6 to 12 months, America will send troops into Syria – another trillion spent with nothing gained.

    6 to 12 weeks more like.

  58. #58
    On February 14th, 2012 at 9:11 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On February 14, 2012 at 01:36 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I used to think that MM was a portal for true conservatives. But, the way conservatives here and elsewhere have treated RP, and to see who you guys and others have supported – despite their records – shows me that conservatives just want their team to win, without regard to what policy produces the best outcome.

    As near as I can tell, every one of your posts here are for support of that nut, in a topic about dirty political money, but WE are the ones with the pom poms.

  59. #59
    On February 14th, 2012 at 10:18 pm, ChapBix said:

    #10. On February 14th, 2012 at 2:46 pm, Truesoldier said:

    O/T…Look what Anita Dunn is up to now….

    After attacking hedge funds and their managers during her tenure in the Obama administration, Anita Dunn is now working as a public relations consultant to improve the industry’s image, according to a secret proposal obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

    Obama’s Mao mole on the inside of the hedge fund industry. Given her past statements about the industry, could Barky have strong-armed someone inside to hire her? Wonder how that is going to work out for them. /sarc off

  60. #60
    On February 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm, ChapBix said:

    #28. On February 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm, 123upnorth said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 3:21 pm, Oh-nO said:

    While God might teach you and inspire you, he doesn’t actually do for you.

    You know this how?

  61. #61
    On February 15th, 2012 at 12:15 am, Blackstone said:

    Do you notice how not one of you challenges my assertion that you guys are going to go bankrupt

    Because it’s up to your opponent to prove a negative? But I do have this for you. Notice the name under where the worse spending and deficit are. It’s not because of military spending or “nation bulding”. It’s because of socialism. Better to focus on where the real trouble is instead of on imaginary boogeymen.

  62. #62
    On February 15th, 2012 at 12:16 am, Blackstone said:

    s/b “worst spending”, not “worse spending”.

  63. #63
    On February 15th, 2012 at 1:43 am, love2rumba said:

    Blackstne do you mean to say all that nation building and military by the US is all paid for? Wow!

  64. #64
    On February 15th, 2012 at 2:52 am, tbear44 said:

    “Senator Reid has already donated the contributions made by Mr. Whittemore and his spouse to charity,”

    Yeah, right.. :roll:

  65. #65
    On February 15th, 2012 at 8:37 am, Oh-nO said:

    #60 ChapBix, I know what God has done and is doing in me and through me. He changes my life and the lives of the people around me. The economics of the world is being skewed in the worst way but the economics of God is operating how He designed it.

  66. #66
    On February 15th, 2012 at 9:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 7:29 pm, OK_Loyalist said:
    And you’re a flaming assh*le. That quality tends to be a prerequisite to being a Ron Paul supporter.

    You should smile bigger when you paint with such a broad brush, otherwise a body might tend to mistake you for calling him a flaming assh*le. I’ll take your non-reply as an apology this once.

  67. #67
    On February 15th, 2012 at 10:04 am, OK_Loyalist said:

    On February 15th, 2012 at 9:54 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    You should smile bigger when you paint with such a broad brush, otherwise a body might tend to mistake you for calling him a flaming assh*le. I’ll take your non-reply as an apology this once.

    I apologize for nothing. I’ll take your reply to me as you trending in the same direction.

  68. #68
    On February 15th, 2012 at 10:40 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Nice. I no longer have any doubt about what kind of man you are. You and I will no longer have discourse from here on out. May peace be with you.

  69. #69
    On February 15th, 2012 at 11:06 am, OK_Loyalist said:

    Whatever, I’m not the one that opened the converse this a.m., so I know what kind of man you are, or are not.

  70. #70
    On February 15th, 2012 at 11:20 am, Blackstone said:

    On February 15th, 2012 at 1:43 am, love2rumba said:

    Blackstne do you mean to say all that nation building and military by the US is all paid for?

    I’m saying it’s not where the problem lies for anyone truly concerned about the exploding federal debt. It’s just a distraction that gives cover to Obama while he spends us into oblivion. But hey, it provides you with emotional satisfaction, and that of course is the most important thing.

  71. #71
    On February 15th, 2012 at 2:20 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Anita Dunn’s job with a major hedge fund is no fluke…it was planned, IMO, by George Soros. Soros’ money all comes from hedge funds and shorting currency around the world. Soros tells Obeyme, who then tells Anita, who then magically gets a job on the inside of the industry. Soros is desperate that no oversight of this highly corrupt industry is implemented anytime soon. Soros will throw a lot of money to prevent a Repubican president taking office. Crooked, the whole lot of them!

  72. #72
    On February 15th, 2012 at 5:20 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On February 14, 2012 at 01:53 pm, letget said:

    On February 14th, 2012 at 2:43 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    I’m happy to talk about this to God for you.
    L

    Luggage arrived intact. I’m home safe. Thanks Letget and everyone who prayed. All praise to God Who looks after things both COSMIC and microscopic.

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