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1. #1
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:15 am, happyscrapper said:

   I was hoping you would have a thread on this! Thanks, Doug!

2. #2
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:18 am, Paratus said:

   “Contempt of Congress Vote”, yeah right, I can see the worried look on Obama’s face from here.

3. #3
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:24 am, happyscrapper said:

   Whenever a call goes out for more documents, and if they don’t provide them, there will be a contempt of Congress citation, I yawn. That threat no longer has any teeth. Is that the best threat they can come up with? If so, why don’t they follow through on it? If they follow through, what would be the penalty? Is there any consequence here? Or does it just sound official, but really isn’t? Why the he11 are they even bothering to make these “threats”? This administration doesn’t even feel threatened when judges make contempt charges. They ignore them and it just “goes away”. I want those in charge of these investigations to PUT UP OR STFU!

   I am so sick of all this! Either they are stonewalling or they aren’t. If they are, slap some REAL penalites on them! Make it HURT, dang it!

   Until then, I am going to just roll over and go back to sleep whenever I hear one of these hollow threats, so typical of a do-nothing Congress.

4. #4
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:25 am, happyscrapper said:

   The only contempt I see here is on the faces of the American People, who know nothing will come of any of it.

5. #5
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:34 am, thejim said:

   Contempt of Congress vote? Well join the huge crowd of citizens in that. As far as the White House is concerned, they have sufficient contempt for the entire country to cover the Congress too.

6. #6
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:36 am, conservative hispanic said:

   Well said, happy. This is ANOTHER reason why we need to clean house come November.

7. #7
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:43 am, right_on said:

   This country is overdue for a purge of progressive lawbreakers.

   I don’t believe the government cleaners should be allowed to “preview” the documents before they copy them to send to the committees. They can cc themselves, but reviewing the documents ahead of time allows them all kinds of opportunity to obfuscate, and hide other pertinent documents/evidence.

   I sure hope there are chains of evidence being observed, and cataloged for the committees. We need to know who has looked at, and handled these documents.

8. #8
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am, Collateral Damage said:

   If GOD blesses us with a new (R) president, I hope and pray that that new president has the gonads to investigate each and every one of these scandals, AND prosecute every one of these cases as TREASON, punishable by DEATH, including the apparently finger-printless Jackass-In-Chief. Holder should already be facing the public gallows for “F & F!” Dodd and Frank should face life in prison for abject corruption. And that’s just the beginning. Unfortunately, if America gets RINO Romney (aka Obama-Lite) jammed down our throats, the only thing that will change is going from a (D) to an (R), same abject corruption with Wall Street and the banks will continue, with America going down the tubes, only a tad slower but with just as much, if not more, pain.

9. #9
   On February 18th, 2012 at 10:53 am, Marshall_Will said:

   Bernstein responded that the figure was not one he wanted to talk about with the press. “Weird — so leverage is like 2/5 ($198 m leverage against loan guarantee of $535m)… best not to go there,” he wrote.

   Yes, best not. Then one has to ask themselves, had it not been for the crony-gov loan in the tank ( would they have been able to raise a DIME of that $198 mil? ) I’m going with No.

10. #10
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:01 am, flameinhair said:

    happyscrapper post #4….Ah-Yep!
    And may I add,
    

    “Nemus of licentia must exsisto novus ex evicis per cruor of pium quod tyrannus.”

    
    T. Jefferson

11. #11
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:10 am, Blackstone said:

    I don’t get the whole “Friday” thing. I mean, as if anyone in the media would pay any more attention on any other day of the week?

12. #12
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:16 am, letget said:

    bho and team continue to do this because so far not one stinken thing has ever happened to them if they didn’t comply! So why not just keep on a doing what they have been doing? bho and team are laughing their fool heads at those in congress for letting them get by with murder(yes that means you holder)! I, along with most American’s, am sick to death of this. I just ask that we can all do all we can to get bho out of Our House in 2012! I can’t ask for anything more to help my country.
    L

13. #13
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am, letget said:

    BTW, mo and the girls are on another ski vacation! This wasn’t in the bhopress was it? Wonder how much this will cost taxpayers?

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/02/18/michelle-obama-decides-ski-aspen/
    L

14. #14
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am, rocketman said:

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    HI COLLATERAL DAMAGE–#8. No can do on your plan to charge them with treason. The Constitution is very specific on what actions fit the punishment. Being crooked or dishonest aren’t on the list.
    ***
    But if “Boo-Hoo” Boehner and his “reach across the aisle” House RINO Posse would “cowboy up” and issue subpoenas for the Solyndra management and financial people and records they could light up The Good Comrade and His “greenie” Ilk. Put them under oath, issue immunity to a few of them with real insider knowledge of the crimes to compel their testimony when the 5th. Amendment is invoked. The American Pravda Media won’t be able to hide the corruption with C-Span reporting on the hearings and following court actions.
    ***
    Then bring out the truth, set the perjury traps, and call in the Department of (little) Energy people. Play hardball–and win. With real jail time for perjury. Use the force, Boo-Hoo!
    ***
    I seem to remember the Governor of a small oil rich state far to the North being smart enough to stamp out corruption there. And how she put some corrupt politicians of both political parties into orange jump suits.
    ***
    If the RINO’s can’t or won’t cowboy up–send the ‘Cuda–and start socking it to them. The Mama Grizzly knows how to handle this type of problem. Maybe she can run for the House and win in Arizona–she bought a house near one of my Doctor son’s Scottsdale, Az. abode a few months ago. Congresswoman Palin sounds pretty good to me. Not as good as President Palin does–but you’ve got to start somewhere. Maybe Todd can learn to wrangle a snowmobile on sand dunes.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

15. #15
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:48 am, jhn1 said:

    It is not always a Solyndra document dump on Friday.
    Sometimes it is a Gunwalker dump., or a different DoJ scandal doc dump, or a BP spill management dump, or a fiscal management dump,…
    This administration hides lots of stuff other than just Solyndra.

16. #16
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:54 am, Truesoldier said:

    Speaking of “green” energy cronyism I saw this:

    Jim Rogers, the co-chairman and lead fundraiser for the Democratic National Convention host-committee, is well versed in the art of political cronyism.
    Just as Rogers has helped fund Democratic politicians, they, in turn, have helped steer massive amounts of federal funding to Duke Energy. The 2009 stimulus package, for instance, was a boon for the company: Duke received federal grants totaling $230.4 million for a number of “green” energy projects including “smart grid” development and wind energy storage.

    According to Recovery.gov, Duke created 196.6 jobs as a result of the grants.

    The company also received a $350,000 grant to assist General Motors in the development of the Chevrolet Volt, the poorly selling electric vehicle that the Obama administration has recently proposed subsidizing at a rate of $10,000 per car.

    Rogers’ support for the president’s “green” agenda earned him a spot on the short list to become President Obama’s Energy Secretary.

    Though headquartered in Charlotte, Duke maintains an active presence in Washington, D.C., having spent more than $26 million lobbying the federal government on energy-related issues since 2007.

    In 2009, the company enlisted the services of the Podesta Group, a lobbying firm founded by John Podesta, the former president of the Center for American Progress and co-chairman of the Obama-Biden transition team, and his brother Tony Podesta. Since then, Duke Energy has paid the firm $860,000 to lobby to “support the passage of climate change and energy legislation” and “energy efficiency and clean energy solutions,” according to a database maintained by the Senate Office of Public Records.

17. #17
    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:56 am, Truesoldier said:

    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:19 am, letget said:
    BTW, mo and the girls are on another ski vacation! This wasn’t in the bhopress was it? Wonder how much this will cost taxpayers?

    Considering it is Aspen I am sure it is costing us a pretty penny.

18. #18
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    There are two key services that the free private markets provide that the government is too corrupt to provide: price discovery and efficient capital allocation. In fact, those are the very two things that free markets exists to do.

    Free markets determine that there is a value for certain goods and services at a people are willing to pay for them (whatever the markets can bear).

    Politicians only care about lining their own pockets while dumping crap onto others at prices that make no sense.

    Well-regulated free markets seek optimum efficiency. Centrally-planned markets are hopelessly inefficient and wasteful.

    Is it any wonder that nothing works anymore? It’s where terms like “jobless recovery” and “new world order” and “new normal” come from.

19. #19
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:11 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Oops.

    Free markets determine that there is a value for certain goods and services at a PRICE people are willing to pay for them (whatever the markets can bear).

20. #20
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:20 pm, AmericanGirl30 said:

    Happyscrapper #3–agree 100%. We need to get rid of “our” gutless wimps (aka enablers) as much as we need to get rid of the tyrants.

    All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

21. #21
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:26 pm, Paratus said:

    Nothing is going to happen just like with Fast&Furious. The Admin. will cut a deal with Boehner. They’ll get a low level management type and that will be it.

22. #22
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:34 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 18th, 2012 at 11:40 am, rocketman said:

    Your points speak to the disinfecting qualities of sunlight. People tend to believe that the “other” people just don’t care about corruption when the vast majority of Americans clearly do.

    Earlier this week, Hank (pronounced “Honk” if your name is Christine Lagard… but I digress) Paulson was interviewed on CNBC and asked if he had second thoughts about the bank bailouts. In his response, he pointed out that there was a poll right after the bailouts were announced that showed that more than 90% were against the bailouts which compared to 63% which were against torture.

    People just don’t like corruption. We can’t count on “our” corrupt politicians to expose “their” corrupt politicians. It just isn’t going to happen. It’s the “There but for the grace of God go I” problem.

    Never believe anything these people say. Vote them all out. Let God sort them out.

23. #23
    On February 18th, 2012 at 12:36 pm, bjc said:

    *I’m sure P-BO and this rat bastard progressive administration have looked to blame Bush, but when it came to Solyndra, Bush said no way to this deal, one of the few constitutionally right things they did!
    *Don’t expect much action from this Boehner led GOP committee, after all, it is headed up by “up yours” Fred Upton from Michigan, who is responsible for depriving us of our incandescent light bulbs, since he fell for the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind, man made global warming; Those are the kind of geniuses we have in Congress!

24. #24
    On February 18th, 2012 at 1:08 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    Failure to do so could result in a contempt of Congress vote.

    This means nothing, since Obama has consistently demonstrated his contempt for Congress since he took office.

    Wake up, Congress, you are being legislated out of existence by the actions of the Executive and Judicial branches. The founders designed the Republic of the United States as a 3-legged stool, a useful tool when used as intended. Last time I checked two-legged stools never work.

25. #25
    On February 18th, 2012 at 1:29 pm, Flyoverman said:

    1 out of 11 should earn you a contempt citation. Nuff said.

26. #26
    On February 18th, 2012 at 1:31 pm, peteee said:

    i know off topic, but i couldn’t resist. there is a story on drudge, it is about illinois voting to disenfranchise a whole voting block. currently there is no law on the books to penalize for having sex with a corpse. so only in illinois, once you are dead, you still can vote, but sex is out of the question. i only bring this up, because our state is drowning in red ink, and this is what they waste their time on in springfield. did you guess, they are all democrats there.

27. #27
    On February 18th, 2012 at 1:44 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On February 18, 2012 at 10:36 am, bjc said:
    

    *I’m sure P-BO and this rat bastard progressive administration have looked to blame Bush, but when it came to Solyndra, Bush said no way to this deal, one of the few constitutionally right things they did!
    *Don’t expect much action from this Boehner led GOP committee, after all, it is headed up by “up yours” Fred Upton from Michigan, who is responsible for depriving us of our incandescent light bulbs, since he fell for the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind, man made global warming; Those are the kind of geniuses we have in Congress!

    I wonder if Upton is like Boehner making money from stocks bought using inside information prior to congress using tax money to provide a bailout like Buffet did with his bank stocks.

    The more I think of the 3.9 billion he made from that the more it Pi$$es me off.

    Buy millions of shares in several banks, then push Urkel and congress for a bank bailout, while schlepping his secretary around whining about her tax rate….while making billions off the stock after the bailout.

    Same thing with his railroad. Buy it, then push Urkel and congress to spend billions on rail infrastructure.

    While normal citizens saw their stocks and retirement plans tank.

    With Boehner lined up at the trough with the rest of the pigs, nothing will happen with this.

    Any contempt of congress vote would likely be an up or down vote on whether congress continues to allow themselves to be treated with contempt.

    Boehner badly needs a primary!

28. #28
    On February 18th, 2012 at 2:42 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    There are two key services that the free private markets provide that the government is too corrupt to provide: price discovery and efficient capital allocation. In fact, those are the very two things that free markets exists to do.

    It’s so crazy, it just might work! Actually while doing a little research on market psychology I learned Futures and Options contracts date back to the Silk Road.

    No sooner would one trader caravan pull out of the oasis, merchants wagered on what the next would ‘bring’? Would they be short on dates, or flush with figs? A system had to be devised!

    No doubt they’d have tied O’Drama to a camel [backwards] w/ a carrot in front of it to wander in the desert until both thankfully perished. Just a thought!

29. #29
    On February 18th, 2012 at 2:55 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 18th, 2012 at 2:42 pm, Marshall_Will said:

    All of the tools that the free markets have developed to help manage risk have been demonized. The entire industry itself preaches owning everything (broad diversification) via underperforming and cost-laden mutual funds and ETFs is preferable to owning a portfolio of select high-quality stocks and bonds.

    Speculation is a dirty word even though every time you commit to the future (which is what investing is), you are speculating on an outcome and taking risks.

    We have been systematically dumbed down by the product-driven banks, wirehouses and insurance companies to being so risk-averse that no one makes money except the crooks at the top. So most investors follow the crowd do the wrong things at the wrong time over and over again.

    We need to return to Glass-Steagall and standardized accounting principles and allow the brokerage industry to be diversified again into independent boutique brokers.

30. #30
    On February 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm, rambler said:

    It is clear that the DC clowns are incapable of having money in their hands. There isn’t a thought about how to spend responsibly. The Constitution had clear guidelines for what the federal gov could do. Instead the elected officials have gone on a wild spending spree, with out a single thought about what they are doing to the country as long as they and their cronies get rich and remain in power. All that money given to Solyndra ended up in a dumpster! Just shows how much respect our politicians have for our hard earned money. Then they have the nerve to think that they know better about “investing” our money.

31. #31
    On February 18th, 2012 at 2:58 pm, Hangfire said:

    Hell, I have contempt of Congress. Who doesn’t?

32. #32
    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:04 pm, paulie said:

    Culture of Corruption part 2!!!!

33. #33
    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:17 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    If there is one lesson that we should be learning with Solyndra and the rest of the crony capitalist projects is that you don’t allow people who risk nothing to dictate which projects are selected.

    That is why central planning just doesn’t work. Those who are willing to take on risk are much reliable as partners in managing that risk. Much less capital is wasted in societies where those who are willing to take risks are allowed to earn a profit. Government is all about wasting money on unwise and unprofitable activities.

34. #34
    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Another way to put it is that free markets are efficient because only the most efficient are allowed to profit. With government only the corrupt have any means to a profit and so it breeds inefficiency.

35. #35
    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:20 pm, Hangfire said:

    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:19 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    With government only the corrupt have any means to a profit and so it breeds inefficiency.

    …and inbreeds corruption.

36. #36
    On February 18th, 2012 at 3:49 pm, swede said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    With government only the corrupt have any means to a profit and so it breeds inefficiency.

    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” –P.J. O’Rourke

    …and inbreeds corruption.

    “Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.” –Clemmens

    ’nuff said.

37. #37
    On February 18th, 2012 at 5:08 pm, rambler said:

    No only has the gov “invested” poorly,it has ruined what we have invested for ourselves. It has tanked the stock market, devalued pension plans, collapsed the investment in housing, bankrupted social security and devalued our currency. In essence, it has made a life time of work worth pennies. Then to add insult to injury, it wants to tax, tax and tax some more.

38. #38
    On February 18th, 2012 at 6:14 pm, thejim said:

    Boehner badly needs a primary!

    AMEN

39. #39
    On February 18th, 2012 at 8:10 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    OweBowMao and Holder have contempt for Congress, the American people and our Constitution.

    Why shouldn’t they?

    We let an ineligible man in as President.

    We’re too cowardly to do anything about his tyranny.

40. #40
    On February 19th, 2012 at 10:04 am, thejim said:

    We let an ineligible man in as President.

    We’re too cowardly to do anything about his tyranny

    Actually, it’s worse than cowardly, its treason. The people that we citizens “Hired” to represent us and protect our nation are in collusion with these frauds to destroy this country. That includes the courts, media, law enforcement, and the elected officials at virtually every level of government.

41. #41
    On February 19th, 2012 at 1:03 pm, Paratus said:

    Now you’re talking Virgina Patriot and
    Thejim. Those are the things that should be said in Congress and on TV by the Republican, Conservatives, and Tea Party.
    The only one I see saying anything like that is West.
    The rest are limp wristed in the back pocket of the socialists frauds.