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1. #1
   On March 6th, 2012 at 4:51 pm, tbear44 said:

   A college degree is the key to economic success,”

   College degree in what? Community organizing?

2. #2
   On March 6th, 2012 at 4:52 pm, FirstSkirt said:

   Uh oh. Here comes the law of unintended consequences.

3. #3
   On March 6th, 2012 at 4:53 pm, Mike From Stumptown said:

   I guess no one in Michigan has heard of this phrase: “You get what you pay for.”

4. #4
   On March 6th, 2012 at 4:57 pm, Thunderbolt said:

   “A college degree is the key to economic success,”

   Pardon me if I dispute your premise. But WTH, we’re gonna’ pay for contraception and abortions, what’s a college education? Might as well make cars, houses, and groceries “free,” too.

   Jeez…

5. #5
   On March 6th, 2012 at 5:02 pm, squeeze127 said:

   Another “goin after the youth” to train them in the ways of socialism.

6. #6
   On March 6th, 2012 at 5:06 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

   Yep, that education thing is bad for people’s minds.

   Here’s one of those losers from Fox News getting punked by Obama:

   http://youtu.be/SAXykSecFBY

   The guy should have gone to a real scholl like our President.

7. #7
   On March 6th, 2012 at 5:06 pm, letget said:

   Well, will this ‘students who have a K-12 education in the state of Michigan’ only apply to a few hundred students in that wonderful school system? How many ACTUALLY gradutate and if they do, does it take twenty years to do so?
   L

8. #8
   On March 6th, 2012 at 5:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

   So now a college degree in MI will be the new 8th grade equivalent. A MI college being the new standard that everyone is entitled to in order to “earn” a college degree, it will no longer be considered “higher education”, more like extended childhood.

   Those old one-room school houses produced a generation that won a world war and put men on the moon. What achievements is the “everyone has a college diploma” generation going to have to show? They sure aren’t aspiring to anything grand. Equality in outcome is not a virtue.

9. #9
   On March 6th, 2012 at 5:08 pm, Iowa Guy said:

   …And the state better pay for their contraception too!! It’s only fair.

10. #10
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:09 pm, Hangfire said:

    What good is a degree if everyone has one?

    What good is ANYTHING if everyone has one?

    Rolls-Royce
    Yacht
    Personal Trainer
    Breast implants

    One of the reasons we had a basset hound is that no one else in Hawaii had one.

    If every woman had large breasts I’d fantasize about Keira Knightly.

    Screw homogenization.

11. #11
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:10 pm, Hangfire said:

    I don’t have a college degree, but I have a job.

    My neighbor has a master’s degree, and his wife brings home the tofu.

12. #12
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:12 pm, spaceycakes said:

    hahahaha!!…oh wait. They’re serious.

13. #13
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:16 pm, Collateral Damage said:

    DummycRATs: “Let’s see how many more votes we can lie, cheat, and steal to get!?!” You know, I know a bunch of folks with degrees, and what I’ve discovered, is that the vast majority of the really, really STUPID ones, who demand everything in their lives from taxpayers, are DoltocRATs!!! So much for that degree.

14. #14
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:17 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:08 pm, Iowa Guy said:

    …And the state better pay for their contraception too!!

    Yeah!! and retroactive!!

15. #15
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:18 pm, CO_Engineer said:

    I thought inheriting money was the key to success- just ask any Kennedy, Rockefeller, Buffet! The government should issue everyone a multimillion dollar inheritance, then we’d all be rich.

16. #16
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:18 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On March 06, 2012 at 03:06 pm, Ilovemycountry said:
    

    Yep, that education thing is bad for people’s minds.

    Here’s one of those losers from Fox News getting punked by Obama:

    http://youtu.be/SAXykSecFBY

    The guy should have gone to a real scholl like our President.

    You should at least give grammar school another shot before spewing about anyone getting punked.

    Speaking of punks, you never answered my question in the other thread. Since you have claimed to be more of a Christian than others here, are you against Urkels mandate ignoring religious freedoms?

17. #17
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:20 pm, T-Bone said:

    So everyone thats wants to go to Michjgan Law School can now go? I guess they have to scrap all those acceptance criteria, including good grades. I am sure the other students won’t mind if their law school is dumbed down a little. Shared sacrifice and all. We need to redistrbute some intelligence.

    Wasn’t there a reverse discrimination lawsuit there once when a white student was denied entry while some lesser qualified black students got in? Now all can get in. It’s nirvana.

    Or are they just talking about specific low level colleges for all these lesser people. You know, the riff raff they need to take care of shouldn’t be in the same classroom as their kids. They can go to a lesser college. And they all get the same job when they graduate with the same pay. We can put a number on their forehead to track them. 666 for Obama’s voters students and 999 for Herman Cains students.

18. #18
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:21 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On March 06, 2012 at 03:07 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    

    So now a college degree in MI will be the new 8th grade equivalent. A MI college being the new standard that everyone is entitled to in order to “earn” a college degree, it will no longer be considered “higher education”, more like extended childhood.

    Those old one-room school houses produced a generation that won a world war and put men on the moon. What achievements is the “everyone has a college diploma” generation going to have to show? They sure aren’t aspiring to anything grand. Equality in outcome is not a virtue.

    I see some at Georgetown law putting their law training to use at re-writing our constitution. Does that count?

19. #19
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:22 pm, T-Bone said:

    My neighbor has a master’s degree, and his wife brings home the tofu.

    Well, I guess he is the master then. Good job. Works for me except wheres the beef?

20. #20
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:24 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:21 pm, Republicanvet said:

    I see some at Georgetown law putting their law training to use at re-writing our constitution. Does that count?

    Exactly why Stalin filled his gulags with intellectuals, college professors, and lawyers.

21. #21
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:25 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    So now a college degree in MI will be the new 8th grade equivalent.

    Here in California, a BA degree from most CSU campuses, in many fields of study, already is.

22. #22
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:25 pm, Republicanvet said:

    Why don’t these bozos just get professors to teach their classes at no charge?

23. #23
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:27 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Wait a minute….don’t the schools (or as ILMC says, scholls) in Wisconsin have something like a 50% High School drop out rate. Heh, this is so not gonna work.

24. #24
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:29 pm, CO_Engineer said:

    Wait a minute- marrying into money is the key, just like Kerry or Huffington. The government should set up a match making service to pair up everyone with a millionaire. Yeah that would work.

    But, you say, inventing something is the ticket- just ask Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg or others. The government should decree that everyone have an original idea that can be marketed for millions.

    Or they could issue a mandate that everyone join a professional sports team, so we can all be millionaires like pro athletes.

    Or we should all be forced to be movie stars, or hip hop artists, or politicians.

    OR- the government could just butt out and let us make our own decisions what we want to do, and if you have the aptitude and desire it enough you will find a way to make it happen without the government dictating who will succeed and who will fail.

25. #25
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:35 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:29 pm, CO_Engineer said:

    I could write a ‘tell-all‘ book about having sex with my congressmen.

    They’ve been screwing me for years.

26. #26
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:36 pm, Regulus said:

    I wonder what the high school graduation rate is in Michigan? Can’t be very good — Detroit alone must drop it significantly.

    All this proposal does is to reinforce a class distinction system, based on education. The “educated” classes become more educated, and the drop-outs fall even further behind.

    Brilliant.

27. #27
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:37 pm, southparkconservative said:

    “It’ll cost nothing” ya right.

    What is with this obsession with college anyways? Would you rather have a BA in history and be waiting tables, or be an electrician?

    We have a shortage of skilled trades in this country, and they aren’t bad jobs. I wouldn’t be upset if my kids became plumbers or electricians or welders. Continuing to push more people to college (that they don’t need) won’t fix this, but it WILL saddle them with debt.

    Bottom line, if a college education really does “pay for itself” then the government doesn’t need to subsidize it. Government subsidies just distort normal market forces that would otherwise reach equilibrium, the end result being the OWS movement with a bunch of college educated people who were fooled into degree programs no employer is interested in.

28. #28
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:41 pm, Hangfire said:

    By the same reasoning, every military member should be an officer.

29. #29
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:44 pm, ThunderHawkk said:

    This is so stupid. What is wrong with liberals? Why are liberals so stupid?

    obama isn’t stupid. He’s a genuine, full-blooded psychopath. Do you see the evil in his eyes? He would kill his grandmother to help him get elected. Oh, wait…

30. #30
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:44 pm, peteee said:

    they don’t tell you, you get to attend school in greece! so you will know what life will be like when you get back.

31. #31
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:51 pm, swede said:

    “A college degree is the key to economic success,” which is why these Democrats are determined to allow everybody to get one for free

    Wellll, not so much. When every idiot has a degree, the degrees are worthless.

32. #32
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:52 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Michigan Dems Communist Party USA Promotes ‘Free College for All’ Plan

    Many details of the constructing of socialism will of necessity depend on the specifics of the socialist transformation, on the politics of the time, and on the wishes and demands of the majority. We can, however, predict some basic aspects with certainty. Socialism would bring social ownership to the commanding heights of the economy the major industrial firms, the transnational corporations, banks and other financial institutions, the energy industry, much of the national distribution system, and the health care system and run them as public utilities, with publicly elected boards, responsible to and for the public good, and for long-term economic and environmental sustainability. Public programs for free health care, free education through the college level, combating illiteracy, ending malnutrition, and guaranteeing jobs would be built.

    Their goal is to drive small businesses out of business, have the government take over the big businesses, and institute “Bill of Rights Socialism in the USA”.

    The Democratic Party is the Communist Party USA. They are one and the same.

33. #33
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:53 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    With socialists, it’s always about entitlements, never about achievement. They create a society where no one achieves anything (except in the black market).

34. #34
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:57 pm, marco said:

    These college grads show up at the office or the construction sites wanting a job. Many have phony college degrees in black history, women’s studies. Eco-science, social issues etc. They are too dumb to fill out an application, pass a drug test, operate any equipment, dress appropriately, speak correct English etc. yet want to start out running the company!! If asked to work, remove nose, lip, eyelid rings, lose the green hair, or wear appropriate work attire they move on to seek work in the state, local, or federal government where they become the authorities over our work!!

35. #35
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:03 pm, T-Bone said:

    Not everyone is capable of going to college. Didn’t these idiots notice that in evey high school, there are over achievers, people who barely get by, and others who may pass but have no interest in the subjects.

    Thats why they have a grading system. Some make A’s and need to go to college. Others make D’s and would rather be working on a car engine somewhere than learning English and History.

    You know they know that. This is all about an image of “helping” people while pointing out that Republicans “hate” people. It’s old and tired. I hope the Tea Party is back in force again to counteract that tactic.

36. #36
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:15 pm, glockomatic said:

    If every woman had large breasts I’d fantasize about Keira Knightly.

    I do anyway. She’s hot.

37. #37
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:27 pm, NotaSlickFan said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:06 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Here’s a link for you straight from the mouth of your beloved leader. It’s from Jan. 2008, so does it make him a hypocrite, liar or one speaking his true plans? We all know what his Energy Sec. thinks about higher and higher consumer energy prices. It seems as if Obama’s 2008 energy plans are coming to fruition. BTW, the FOX reporter was hardly punked but the linked vid sure punks you. Have a nice day though.

38. #38
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:31 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:15 pm, glockomatic said:

    I do anyway. She’s hot.

    Classic face. Less meat than a chicken neck.

39. #39
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:43 pm, NotaSlickFan said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:06 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    The link:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-skyrocket/

40. #40
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:44 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Wellll, not so much. When every idiot has a degree, the degrees are worthless.

    Too true. BA degrees once were the standard for white collar management positions….until….so many earned them, and in many useless fields, that the MA replaced the BA as the standard!

    And yes, even now, too many idiots have degrees that are, by and large, useless.

    College level education has already been diluted by the left.

41. #41
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:48 pm, OneNation said:

    College degrees in my opinion dont have the meaning they used to have. College professors these days are cleaning up the mess the public school system didn’t provide. Thus now an Associates, at least, is probably the equivalent of a HS diploma.

42. #42
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:54 pm, Mister P said:

    Maybe its time to bring back the draft instead.

    We went from a Chicken in every pot to free Meaningless public college education for every resident (legal or not).

43. #43
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:00 pm, jsr said:

    Michigan 2020

    You know this must be a good idea because it has short, gimmicky name which is always a indicator of a worthy program. If they had just thrown in a “Global Vision” into the title it would have been an absolute guarantee of success. (i.e. huge numbers of new govt. employees)

44. #44
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:39 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    More importantly, the plan would come at no additional cost to taxpayers and instead be funded entirely by eliminating ineffective tax loopholes for special interests and cutting costs within the thousands of contracts the state currently administers.

    This is total BEE ESS! Anyone who believes this or any other plan proposed by the government would come at no additional cost to taxpayers should contact me immediately. I have several thousand acres of ocean front property in Kansas I am selling at way below market value.

    Who’s zooming who here? They won’t close any “loopholes” and they sure as hell won’t cut any costs in government contracts, so guess what? The money for this boondoggle will come from increased taxes. A few billion dollars down the rat-hole later, the whole project will be abandoned.

    I lived in Michigan from 1981-1990. Michigan, your problems have nothing to do with too few people walking around with a college degree and everything to do with too many people touting “free” government plans. Nothing provided by government is “free.” Never was, never will be.

45. #45
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:45 pm, BK said:

    The dems know this plan will not cost any taxpayer money, or any money for that matter due to the high dropout rate from Michigan high schools.

    And those who DO manage to get one, get laughed at rejected by Michigan colleges when they file the entrance application anyway.

    THIS is what really will happen

46. #46
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:13 pm, redgypsy said:

    Well, see, the teachers just need to be teaching for free–after all, they can get Food Stamps and Medicaid and public assistance.
    So it will all be FREE!
    /off
    The stupidity is stupefying…

47. #47
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:16 pm, redgypsy said:

    Ooh, I just watched the video.
    This plan is endorsed by the governor, who SAID we should look at these studies!!
    And of course, if a GOVERNOR says it, it must be so!!

48. #48
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:17 pm, redgypsy said:

    (I’m guessing I don’t need a /sarc tag for my last post)

49. #49
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    the plan would come at no additional cost to taxpayers and instead be funded entirely by eliminating ineffective tax loopholes for special interests and cutting costs within the thousands of contracts the state currently administers.

    Oh my – I’m just speechless. So, all that money they’re spending – the money they claimed couldn’t be trimmed by a single freaking dime – now there’s enough left over to fund free college for my kids?

    Michigan – Eff yeah!

50. #50
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:55 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Michigan is facing horrible times. There is real poverty and real suffering. So in the midst of all this Democrats propose this.

    There is no attempt on their part to reduce government, improve efficiency, and make the state business friendly.

    Instead of tackling real problems, they abandon their responsibilities to dream dreams.

    They are the fat, lazy offspring who sits on the couch muching on potato chips saying tomorrow they are going to look for a job.

51. #51
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The guy should have gone to a real scholl like our President.

    Oh ya, you have credability.

52. #52
    On March 7th, 2012 at 3:11 am, ent said:

    Even if they get around to closing the “loopholes” for corporations, two things will happen: The corporations will necessarily pass on the added expense to the consumer in the form of higher prices. And if the expenses are too onerous, they will close up shop or leave the state, thereby eliminating their entire revenue stream to the state. No matter how you swing it, the public will pay for the plan with higher taxes or higher prices.

    Is it possible that Democrats, typified by this woman, are really so stupid and/or delusional that they can’t comprehend this? Or do they just not care because all that matters to them is saying whatever it takes to get elected? You know, like our Dear Leader Obama, who has raised this lying-to-get-elected approach to the level of an art form.

    Michigan, dominated by Democrat politicians for decades, is the poster child for failed Democratic policies. Open you eyes, Michigan voters. Your state is collapsing around you. Isn’t it time to try something different? Your Democratic leaders have failed you in a stunningly big way.

53. #53
    On March 7th, 2012 at 8:11 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I guess no one in Michigan has heard of this phrase: “You get what you pay vote for.”

    FIFY.

54. #54
    On March 7th, 2012 at 10:25 am, RedDog said:

    Great. Working taxpayers will just jump at the chance to give the government more of their money to send young “progressives” to a 4-year Marxist propaganda training camp.

    Enjoy your decent into anarchy Michigan. You still have your football to comfort you.

55. #55
    On March 7th, 2012 at 10:27 am, RedDog said:

    If a proposal by Michigan Senate Democrats becomes law, college for all students who have a K-12 education in the state of Michigan will be virtually free.

    It used to be that scofflaws and fools like this used to be put into stocks in the public square or run out of town “on a rail”.

56. #56
    On March 7th, 2012 at 10:33 am, RedDog said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:39 pm, Member-VRWC said:
    … and everything to do with too many people touting “free” government plans. Nothing provided by government is “free.” Never was, never will be.

    We don’t have a problem with bad government. Government is just an institution, a tool like a gun or a shovel. The problem lies with bad people permitted to control it. Our own state and local governments are being used as a weapon against us – a tool of professional racketeers. Now we have a Racketeer-In-Chief sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

57. #57
    On March 7th, 2012 at 11:29 am, drbulb said:

    The guy should have gone to a real scholl like our President.

    I wonder if we could get the scholl to release his transcripts?

    “A college degree is the key to economic success”

    D@mn! and all this time I have been laboring under the misconception that hard work, integrity and personal responsibility was the reason my wife and I have done so well. Shoulda gone to a real scholl and got a degree I guess…

58. #58
    On March 7th, 2012 at 3:44 pm, shimauma2 said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:53 pm, Mike From Stumptown said:

    I guess no one in Michigan has heard of this phrase: “You get what you pay for.”

    So barry hussien obama’s education must have been financed entirely by the guv’ment. Kinda figures…

59. #59
    On March 7th, 2012 at 7:54 pm, Cybergeezer said:

    If all students should be granted a college degree, then all citizens should be granted the Presidency at some time in their life.
    If Obama can do it, anybody can.

60. #60
    On March 8th, 2012 at 10:24 am, prendad said:

    This is a FANTASTIC IDEA!! Since “The plan is in line with many studies that say a college degree is the key to economic success”, all you have to do is report to the front door of the Michigan college of your choice. From there, they “put you through college”. You are escorted from the front door, through the college to the back door. At the back door, a brief ceremony is held and you are presented with your diploma!
    Voila! Instant diploma, instant success guaranteed!