Ripping the lid off of Colorado’s Solyndra

By Michelle Malkin  •  March 6, 2012 10:01 AM

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State-level conservative blogs and think tanks are doing the work the rest of the “mainstream media” won’t do on government big green boondoggles.

Last week, Doug mentioned the Abound Solar debacle here in my home state of Colorado.

It’s thanks to the intrepid investigative work of Colorado’s Todd Shepherd and Amy Oliver at Complete Colorado and the Independence Institute and Michael Sandoval at People’s Press Collective that this latest Department of Energy loan scandal has been exposed. Paul Chesser at the NLPC summarized:

Yet another solar company that received loan guarantees from the Department of Energy has dismissed factory workers, lopping off 70 percent of its U.S. employees. Loveland, Colo.-based Abound Solar announced Tuesday it would lay off 280 workers at its production plant near Longmont, leaving 120 still employed. The start-up (2009) company attributed the cutbacks to the need for upgrades at the plant to manufacture more efficient solar panels, with plans to restore production levels and rehire most employees within six to nine months.

“Hopefully at the end of that time period we will bring people back,” said Steve Abely, Abound’s Chief Financial Officer, to the Boulder Daily Camera.

DOE’s $400-million loan guarantee to Abound closed in December 2010, after President Obama delivered a weekly message a few months earlier hyping his jobs plan in a “clean energy economy,” in which he cited his plans for Abound[.]

Energy Secretary Steven Chu was equally boastful about the Abound loan.

“Pioneering projects like this are what will help the U.S. recapture the lead when it comes to supporting innovation in the global clean energy economy,” he said. “Not only is this investment creating thousands of jobs, but it is also increasing our renewable energy manufacturing capacity and putting us on the path for our future prosperity.”

News Web site The Complete Colorado revealed “fingerprints” of a “pay-to-play agenda” when Abound received its conditional approval in September 2010. Wealthy philanthropist Pat Stryker, whose Bohemian Companies has significant investment in Abound, donated $475,599 to federal Democrat candidates and causes over the 2008 to 2012 election cycles, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Included in that amount is $11,900 in maximum contributions to President Obama’s two campaigns for the White House. Stryker also was an $87,500 bundler for the president’s Inaugural Committee, the People’s Press Collective discovered, and donated $50,000 herself. The Sunlight Foundation reported that she gave $35,800 to the 2012 Obama Victory Fund. In October 2009 Stryker also visited a former assistant to the deputy chief of staff at the White House, Kristin Sheehy, who also hosted several visits from SEIU president Andy Stern. The purpose of Stryker’s visits is undisclosed.

Stryker is known to have contributed millions of dollars to Democrat candidates for state and federal office in her lifetime. Among those are gifts to former U.S. Rep. Betsy Markey, whose district includes the Abound facility – $9,400 made up of max contributions for her 2008 and 2010 successful runs for office. Abound helped pay for ads in 2009 that thanked Markey for voting for the cap-and-trade bill that passed the House that year, which would have benefited renewable energy companies. And according to the Fort Collins Coloradoan, Markey also pushed for approval of the loan guarantee for Abound.

“Without the loan guarantees, they would not be able to really move forward on this project,” Markey told the newspaper. “It’s seed money that’s going to be fully paid back by Abound.”

In a fresh exclusive, Complete Colorado has obtained new documents showing “that Abound Solar created an unexpected, and previously unreported 10 day production shutdown over the Christmas and New Year’s holidays, and then went on to tell employees, Don’t let the rumor mill create false purposes for this shutdown.’ The shutdown was announced to employees just after Thanksgiving by company president Craig Witsoe.”

How many more?

We need a green energy loan moratorium. NOW.

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  1. #1
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:04 am, thejim said:

    Its part of the “Grab Something & Run” program sponsored by our Chief Criminal.

  2. #2
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:08 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    State-level conservative blogs and think tanks are doing the work the rest of the “mainstream media” won’t do on government big green boondoggles Obama’s fraud and ineligibility.

    The evidence is mounting.
    Every blogger and reporter needs to breitbart this!
    To paraphrase Barry Goldwater:
    “Extremism in defense of the Constitution is no vice.”

  3. #3
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am, Barb said:

    How long can political cronyism go on? When will the sheep stop allowing the wolves to fleece them? When our Republic is destroyed and turned into memories of greatness of our ancestors?

  4. #4
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    And take a look at what’s been happening to the price of uber-crony boondoggle FirsT Solar ($4.7B, that’s billion, of taxpayer subsidies) recently.

    The entire solar complex is collapsing. If there was true opportunity in that space, the money would be pouring in. That is what free markets do.

    BTE, former Bush Treasurer Paul O’Neil has been knocking the ball out of the park on CNBC the past 10 minutes. Short version: the entire political system is stuck on stupid and we need to find someone to run for president who dares to tell the truth. Like me, he is an independent conservative who sees little difference between the “two” parties.

  5. #5
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am, Chris in N.Va said:

    No surprise considering this administration’s perspective on Green Energy (folding green, that is).

    Kith and kin with the embrace of pond scum. How utterly appropriate a metaphor!

  6. #6
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:28 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    BTW, one thing I’ve observed on those few occasions that someone with the stature of Paul O’Neil dares to tell the truth boldly is that people from all political persuasion cheer.

    We are tired of liars, chameleons and shape-shifters yet that is all our one-party system throws at us and we keep holding our noses to vote for it. If we would just stop voting for it, things would change fast. At least we would find out the truth about whether we still have a democracy. If enough people vote 3rd party, we’ll find out.

  7. #7
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:31 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:23 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    forgot to add the link to First Solar chart.

  8. #8
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:44 am, Republicanvet said:

    Only in this administration does loaning millions in tax dollars go from “creating thousands of jobs” to 400 actual jobs, then whittled down to 120. And the left wonders why we do not want our money going to DC.

  9. #9
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:45 am, uffdaubet said:

    Let’s place this story in the news cycle where it will get the most play.

    How many overaged, over sexxed co-eds would this money have bought birth control for?

  10. #10
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am, TigerLady said:

    Only in this administration does loaning millions in tax dollars go from “creating thousands of jobs” to 400 actual jobs, then whittled down to 120.

    And if the truth be told it probably is less than 12 jobs.

  11. #11
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:51 am, TigerLady said:

    Only in this administration does loaning STEALING millions in tax dollars go from “creating thousands of jobs” to 400 actual jobs, then whittled down to 120.

    I switched it to the more accurate statement.

  12. #12
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am, Republicanvet said:

    Can someone explain something for me? I don’t claim to be an economic genius. If there is such a market for solar panels that it’s worth throwing billions in tax dollars at, wouldn’t that market become hotter as the competition went bankrupt?
    Wouldn’t those still left in the game be making huge amounts of money since the supply would now be less than demand?

  13. #13
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am, Republicanvet said:

    On March 06, 2012 at 08:45 am, uffdaubet said:

    Let’s place this story in the news cycle where it will get the most play.

    How many overaged, over sexxed co-eds would this money have bought birth control for?

    …and gender reassignment surgeries since she was also trying to force a Catholic school to pay for that.

  14. #14
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI PASADENA_PHIL–#7. Nice link to the First Solar “energy” stock price chart. It looks like the sinking data on the Titanic on it’s way down to the bottom.
    ***
    However, the Y-axis on the chart looks very strange. Like someone was cooking the data to make it look far better than it actually was. Creative plotting to show the actual data in a “better” light?
    ***
    So far–I haven’t seen one green “energy” project yet that can “compete” with existing far cheaper energy sources. Not one–mandated higher costs for all consumers! And Comrade Obama and His Ilk keep doubling down on stupid with our taxpayer bucks. Like hitting us on the head with a hammer because it feels sooo good when they stop!
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  15. #15
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:53 am, Republicanvet said:

    Stop making sense. Truth, common sense and logic have no place in crony capitalism economy. If you don’t cease and desist, you will be instructed to gather your belongings and leave.

  16. #16
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:00 am, Republicanvet said:

    Again, when will the left start demanding clawbacks of all the outrageous bonuses paid to these CEO’s whose companies have gone bankrupt?

  17. #17
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am, DonkeyHoatie said:

    Guess who’s reading Complete Colorado? Lots of busy bees at the White House. Hello!

    The article that the White House folks are reading is from 2010. What made them suddenly take an interest in it? Was it a person’s name that came up on their searches? Or was it the company name?

    Usually, once a report like this gets to be more than a month or two old, the hit counts on that page drop to near zero, unless something links back to that page and renews interest. I wonder what was linking them to the CC site…

  18. #18
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:03 am, ZippoDude28 said:

    On a related note, I read a blurb on the ARPA-E (Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy) that DOE is running with “only” $522 million, mostly from the stimulus program. They have funded 180 “high-risk but potentially game-changing technologies”, patterned after the “highly successful” DARPA project.

    Apparently, their auditors decided milestones for six projects could not be met, so they were terminated. Money allocated: $13.2 million, money returned to treasury: $3.6 million. 174 projects still spending your money “wisely”.

    The projects were run by Material Methods, NanOasis Technologies, Inorganic Specialists, Nalco, Iowa State University, and United Technologies Research Center.

    It just gives me warm fuzzies that …”DOE has emphasized that all ARPA-E projects are risky, will be closely monitored, and could be terminated or restructured throughout the funding period, which usually runs from three to five years.”

    It took three years and several million dollars to see that Iowa State’s microalgae-based biofuels technology wasn’t going to meet milestones. Good thing DOE has many other bets on algae based biofuels, guess Iowa State needed some new bio-labs.

    Too bad big companies like Exxon-Mobil or BP or start-ups like Solazyme or Sapphire Energy aren’t working on technology like this and the DOE needs to fund “risky” research .. oh wait a minute, these companies are already spending millions on algae technologies.

    This info was in the 20-Feb-2012 issue of Chemical and Engineering News.

  19. #19
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am, rocketman said:

    However, the Y-axis on the chart looks very strange.

    First Solar has been the darling of the solar space for several years now. They not only got billions of US taxpayer subsidies but also benefited from favorable Chinese “influences” and the incestuous relationships between all of these crony companies and their “banksta” masters.

    There is a cliche that devout chartists swear by: there is information in price. In this case, FSLR’s price is telling us that something has been smelly all along. With all of the competition falling by the wayside, you would think the most efficient producer would be cleaning up. Where is that company? The only ones cleaning up are the cronies who got out in time.

  20. #20
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:04 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI REPUBLICANVET–#12. The economic reality is that Chinese solar panel manufacturers build the items for half the cost that the best U.S. based companies can. Far lower labor costs, no real anti-pollution costs, no worker benefit costs, etc.
    ***
    There are no real or rational “competition” or free market economy rules in play here. The government (really taxpayer) subsidy to the “greenie” Comrade Obama crony capitalists and corrupt groups is just a way to get rich by theft.
    ***
    Your problem in not understanding the “economics” at play here is that you are thinking logically in a crooked game being played with a marked deck of cards. When the subsidy runs out the game is over.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  21. #21
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:06 am, Republicanvet said:

    On Yahoo news now. Abound is mentioned at the bottom, and only that they laid people off.

    Nice to see the DOE is “troubled” by the bonuses paid.

    Hope the link works.

    http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/green-firms-fed-cash-execs-bonuses-fail-200314806–abc-news.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

  22. #22
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:21 am, Republicanvet said:

    It would be interesting to see a list of all companies involved in this, along with how much tax dollars they got, how many jobs were created, how many are left, what bonuses were paid to whom, and what company personnel are politically connected and how much they donated.

  23. #23
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am, conservative hispanic said:

    Pasadena Phil:

    Speaking of stuck on stupid…..

    Man, don’t you get that Al LEAST 40% of the population is voting for Obowtome, because they want “freebies”? And that your mythical third party will only divide the other 60%, assuring a second term for the Marxist-In-Chief? Is that what you really want? This is a yes or no question. Anything else will tell me that you’re really for Obowtome.

  24. #24
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI ZIPPO_DUDE28–#18. I got to see some of the old DARPA projects in action at White Sands Missile Range in the mid 1960′s and 1970′s. They were spectacular cutting edge R&D projects then. They really worked–although they may never have entered operational status.
    ***
    The project that stands out in my mind was a super high speed and high-G turn capability ICBM interceptor missile design. The missile looked like an Indian arrowhead–almost flat on opposite sides. It was built of some super high strength material (tungsten?) and had longitudinal grooves with holes in them along the flat sides of the bird.
    ***
    To turn the missile–two hypergolic fuels were valved into the grooves and exploded there to blast the rear end of the missile onto the next segment of the flight path. Like putting a stick of dynamite along the rear quarter of your car to make it turn on a dime!
    ***
    We couldn’t believe the flight path when the first 90 degree turn was commanded. The smoke trail as seen from a mile away looked like a carpenter’s square in the sky! No apparent turn radius at all in the smoke trail.
    ***
    DARPA did some amazing things–real out of the box thinkers. And their stuff actually worked. Unlike the failed “greenie” energy projects.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  25. #25
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Is it a coincidence that the Dems have chosen today to go after “excessive speculators” in oil markets? And guess who is leading the charge? That Marxist Bernie Sanders from VT. He just made a fool of himself on CNBC..

  26. #26
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:25 am, Republicanvet said:

    Scratch my comment above….or add to the list, either way.
    Maybe it would be easier to list the companies who received DOE loans and are successfully making a profit on their own.

  27. #27
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, The Dept of Labor will probably come out with a new bilion dollar re-training program for all the layed off green workers so they can get educated on the fossil fuel jobs of the future. ENRGY101 – “How to fill the 50 gallon gas tank on a Chevy Suburban in a post-green jobs world”

  28. #28
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:35 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Maybe it would be easier to list the companies who received DOE loans and are successfully making a profit on their own.

    Do they even exist? I want solid evidence. I’m guessing not.

  29. #29
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:40 am, Paratus said:

    Since the LSM won’t put this stuff on there news or on Discovery or anywhere, can it be done the old fashion way like billboards? It’s nice that MM puts this info up here. We can pass it on in e-mails and person to person but it needs to be put else where.

    There are heat loss mechanisms that are available, but no one seems to talk about that much.

    Solar will be efficient sometime in the future but let private co. take care of that. I’m not into that end of
    energy production so I can’t comment on the innovations that are in the lab at this time.

  30. #30
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:41 am, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah
    That would be a blank piece of paper . . .

  31. #31
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:44 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:24 am, conservative hispanic said:

    Pasadena Phil:

    Speaking of stuck on stupid…..

    Yeah. Really. Bus over cliff. You’re okay with that so long as it’s a Republican driving the bus.

    There is no point to making your childish “arguments” if you aren’t going to address my arguments anyway. You are stuck in a cartoon world where the Obama Boogieman must be defeated at all costs to save Planet Zircon. Boo! Look out behind you! Boogieman!

  32. #32
    On March 6th, 2012 at 11:51 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Guess who’s reading Complete Colorado? Lots of busy bees at the White House. Hello!

    Oh great, now bloggers in Colorado will start having heart attacks.

  33. #33
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Since the LSM won’t put this stuff on there news or on Discovery or anywhere, can it be done the old fashion way like billboards?

    Yes, billboards could be an avenue of communication. That is, until Bammy and his henchmenpeople, ahem, persuade, the billboard companies to turn down such messages.

  34. #34
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm, Paratus said:

    hawkeye54: As soon as I posted that I thought the same as you, or leave the ol’ horse’s head in the bed routine.

  35. #35
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Pasadena Phil:

    And you’re acting like a spoiled brat. My way or the highway, because I’m the ONLY one smart enough to know what’s really going on. Tell me, Phil, how’s California doing? Any chance a third party is going to come out of nowhere and fix that toilet of a state? I have a better chance of winning the Power Ball and gold in the Winter X Games than of that happening.

  36. #36
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:15 pm, Captain Blasto said:

    Phil- Ron Paul will not be the next president. It doesn’t matter whether his fans think he’s the next Reagan or even the second coming of Christ. He won’t be nominated.
    Any vote on “principle” for him in the general election is a protest vote for Obama and the end of a free America.
    If you and the rest of the Paul fans feel strong enough about your principled votes that you’d rather have Obama and be right than save the country and hold your nose then do so but please just leave the rest of us alone. Ron Paul ain’t going to happen and we have America to save. Mitt, Newt, or Rick, it doesn’t matter. Any of the three will buy us some time to get our people in Congress.

  37. #37
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:31 pm, Mister P said:

    Any vote on “principle” for him in the general election is a protest vote for Obama and the end of a free America.

    I would say the same for any vote for Romney. Any doubt the establishment sees its enemy as the Tea Party. Romney is for ObamaCare and for Cap and Trade. He would have an easier time completing the Progressive Agenda than Obama because he would get a coalition of establishment GOP and democrats to go along with it.

    But its a mistake to just focus on who someone votes for. Its a lot more than that. Its about who you can support, who you can recommend to a neighbor, who you can contribute to. Romney fails for many of us. And once the nomination is set in stone we will hear more of Romney sounding just like Mc Cain.

  38. #38
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:35 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On March 06, 2012 at 10:31 am, Mister P said:

    Any vote on “principle” for him in the general election is a protest vote for Obama and the end of a free America.

    I would say the same for any vote for Romney. Any doubt the establishment sees its enemy as the Tea Party. Romney is for ObamaCare and for Cap and Trade. He would have an easier time completing the Progressive Agenda than Obama because he would get a coalition of establishment GOP and democrats to go along with it.

    But its a mistake to just focus on who someone votes for. Its a lot more than that. Its about who you can support, who you can recommend to a neighbor, who you can contribute to. Romney fails for many of us. And once the nomination is set in stone we will hear more of Romney sounding just like Mc Cain.

    Liberal policies work when there is plenty of other peoples money. Given the fiscal state of this country, the next president will have to govern somewhat conservatively because there is no OPM left.

  39. #39
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm, Mister P said:

    And you’re acting like a spoiled brat.

    You are being unfair to Phil. He is expressing his opinions. You have every right to vote for who you like. All of us do. I am with Phil in that I do not believe the “hold your nose” philosophy of voting for the lesser of two evils. That philosophy does not work. It creates candidates like Mc Cain. Yes we have projected all evil unto Obama, but the evil is the Progressive Movement. We need to shift from a person as a target to a movement. The movement has many Republicans who will keep it going unfortunately. At least that is what Phil and I think.

    So instead of insults we need to have assurances that somehow Romney is different. I am not hearing those assurances. Instead I am hearing “shut up” and follow the party line.

  40. #40
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:38 pm, SkyePuppy said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am, rocketman said:

    However, the Y-axis on the chart looks very strange.

    On the toolbar, just above the “Compare” button, click on Scale: Linear, and you’ll see the real free-fall. Enjoy!

  41. #41
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm, Mister P said:

    Liberal policies work when there is plenty of other peoples money. Given the fiscal state of this country, the next president will have to govern somewhat conservatively because there is no OPM left.

    I think liberal policies may, but not socialist policies. It is not about OPM as OPF (other people’s freedom). They will continue to take that away as they manage the funds. It is more about power and the GOP sees all that power Obama has accumulated and want it for themselves in my honest opinion. At least that should be our main concern. With the ability to do an end run around the Tea Party, I would say they will succeed.

  42. #42
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm, spaceycakes said:

    we need to find someone to run for president who dares to tell the truth.

    at this point who would that be?

  43. #43
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:44 pm, gus said:

    Pasadena Phil,
    I too am an independent Conservative, but when you say there is little difference between the 2 parties, it’s like saying
    CANCER and a COLD are both illnesses.
    The LIBTARD PARTY is sick. Very sick.

    Pardon the pun.

  44. #44
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm, letget said:

    O/T. Here is a fyi for parents and g-parents who have small children. If you have them in your home, you might want to get rid of them?

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-buckyballs-37-20120306,0,1818921.story
    L

  45. #45
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:46 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I think liberal policies may, but not socialist policies. It is not about OPM as OPF (other people’s freedom). They will continue to take that away as they manage the funds.

    Ya got that right. Once OPM has been squeezed to nothing, OPA (Other Peoples Assests) will be claimed and seized by the government to control, mannage and redistribute “fairly” to the appropriate cronies and voting blocs, thereby taking OPF and making us all slaves of government.

  46. #46
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:47 pm, DonkeyHoatie said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:41 pm, spaceycakes said:

    we need to find someone to run for president who dares to tell the truth.

    at this point who would that be?

    MM?
    Rush?
    Levin?
    Netanyahu?

    Okay, so they aren’t running, but at least they are willing to point and laugh at the emperor walking around bare-[donkey] naked.

  47. #47
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:50 pm, gus said:

    Hawkeye the LIBTARD in CHIEF has now bipassed OTHER PEOPLE and has gone on to taking PRODUCTS from PRIVATE BUSINESSES. And the whole deal with FLUKE was a planned out and executed KABUKI dance.
    What’s next. Seriously. Collective farms MAYHAPS??? That would be fair.

  48. #48
    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:54 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I do not believe the “hold your nose” philosophy of voting for the lesser of two evils. That philosophy does not work. It creates candidates like Mc Cain.

    IMO:
    McCain would not have signed PelosiCare.
    McCain would not have attacked Catholic Institutions.
    McCain would not have hamstrung the oil industry.
    McCain would not have nominated Sotomayor nor Kagen.
    McCain would not have thrown Poland and the Czech Republic under the bus wrt Missile Defense.
    McCain would not have had his Attorney General drop the case against the NBBP.
    McCain would not have prosecuted a war on success.
    McCain would not have signed a $800B “stimulus” bill.
    McCain would not have cut the defense budget to the bone.

    Of course, we could never be positive. But, I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be in as deep a pile of crap as we are now.

    BTW, unless you’re voting for yourself or Jesus Christ, you hold your nose on EVERY vote.

  49. #49
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:01 pm, Unintelligible said:

    rocketman #14:
    …However, the Y-axis on the chart looks very strange. Like someone was cooking the data to make it look far better than it actually was. Creative plotting to show the actual data in a “better” light?

    That kind of “log” plot is commonly used to magnify detail that would otherwise be lost in the noise. So I don’t think it’s deliberately cooked, but of course it DOES make the data look better!

    Pasadena Phil #6
    …If we would just stop voting for it, things would change fast. At least we would find out the truth about whether we still have a democracy. If enough people vote 3rd party, we’ll find out.

    Your intentions may be good, but you’re advocating a recipe for disaster. It’s based on the same kind of wishful utopianism that drives liberals–if only people were different, if only the world were different, if only, if only… But we don’t live in some idealized near-democracy today that can be fixed by some mass epiphany. Get over it. The country certainly can’t afford right now for any of us to dabble with goofy experiments like voting 3rd party–that will inevitably result in even greater misery and disaster. We can talk about diddling with the rudder after we’ve avoided the ice berg and America is sailing again in open seas. To do that will require years of effort educating more people so they choose, in their own self-interest, to align with the conservative cause, and thus motivate the party machines to field better candidates. Fragmenting the team and assuring defeat is only going to make that harder. I too wish reality was different, but right now the only option is voting so as to slightly increase our nation’s chances for survival. Optimizing ideology is a luxury for the future. (I know ranting back won’t change anything, but I felt it was my turn to tilt at Phil’s windmill).

    rocketman #24:
    …DARPA did some amazing things–real out of the box thinkers. And their stuff actually worked.

    They sure did. Like the Internet, which they funded as a way to survive an attack that clobbered the communications infrastructure. I remember when it had only a dozen or so sites–half military and half university–and you could draw it on a napkin. America needs to get its leadership act together so it can enjoy achieving great things again.

  50. #50
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm, Hangfire said:

    Some of these solar energy companies are doing great business. Raking it in.

    Due to a presidential mandate, Leon Panetta is having solar water heaters and power panels installed at military installations.

    You should see the work going on here at Air Force, Army, and Navy installations. The military housing is crawling with contractors installing these ugly cells on rooftops.

    I wonder if the money came from the defense budget, or elsewhere….

  51. #51
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:12 pm, RedDog said:

    Let’s make it simple for them to understand:

    THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT GIVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY AS A GRANT, DIRECT LOAN OR “INVESTMENT” IN COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES.

    What part of that do Republicans and Democrats not comprehend?

  52. #52
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:16 pm, RedDog said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:10 pm, Hangfire said:
    … Due to a presidential mandate, Leon Panetta is having solar water heaters and power panels installed at military installations.

    You should see the work going on here at Air Force, Army, and Navy installations….

    Again, this is patently illegal. Republicans and other Conservatives should be torching the Democrats over this.

  53. #53
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:19 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I wonder if the money came from the defense budget, or elsewhere….

    I’d bet it came out of the defense budget. Perfect use for defense spending from our leftists’ POV.

  54. #54
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:22 pm, gus said:

    it came from the DEFENSE BUDGET.

    The ENERGY DEPT budget is a SLUSH FUND for Obama bundlers.

  55. #55
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:28 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    The ENERGY DEPT budget is a SLUSH FUND for Obama bundlers.

    What federal department budget ISN’T a slush fund for Obama and his bundlers?

  56. #56
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:38 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    O/T

    Anybody else notice the ads in the sidebar are in spanish? I just noticed that.

  57. #57
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:38 pm, PunditPete said:

    Very convenient timing, as the Bridge to Nowhere Tea Party was planning a protest of the waste of $ millions on solar panels at the Denver Federal Center with an event this Saturday, 1 – 3 PM. Our message:

    TRADE PANELS FOR PIPELINE

    If we get press to come we just might drop a little mention of “Colorado’s Solyndra”. Thanks Todd, Amy & Michael.

    Check Pundit Pete in the next day or two for details and other links.

    Hopefully, some of your Colorado readers can join us.

  58. #58
    On March 6th, 2012 at 1:52 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On March 06, 2012 at 11:38 am, PunditPete said:

    Very convenient timing, as the Bridge to Nowhere Tea Party was planning a protest of the waste of $ millions on solar panels at the Denver Federal Center with an event this Saturday, 1 – 3 PM. Our message:

    TRADE PANELS FOR PIPELINE

    If we get press to come we just might drop a little mention of “Colorado’s Solyndra”. Thanks Todd, Amy & Michael.

    Check Pundit Pete in the next day or two for details and other links.

    Hopefully, some of your Colorado readers can join us.

    I too thought it convenient that ABC came out with their article today given the visits to the Colorado blog by the WH.

    I thought ABC may be helping the WH spin the issue.

  59. #59
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:03 pm, ChapBix said:

    #10. On March 6th, 2012 at 10:49 am, TigerLady said:

    Only in this administration does loaning millions in tax dollars go from “creating thousands of jobs” to 400 actual jobs, then whittled down to 120.

    And if the truth be told it probably is less than 12 jobs.

    Of which, nine or ten of those jobs are security guards.

  60. #60
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:30 pm, Hangfire said:

    Barry is doing to our economy what the looters did after the Rodney King verdict, not to mention Nawlins post-Katrina.

  61. #61
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:36 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Is it possible that, in exchange for say $1 trillion from the Chinese government, Obeyme’s so-called economics experts agreed to implode the US solar manufacturers and let the Chinese control the solar market?

  62. #62
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:48 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Barry is doing to our economy what the looters did after the Rodney King verdict, not to mention Nawlins post-Katrina.

    Yup. Only he’s acting as the looters middleman, so, naturally, he and his cronies get a huge piece of the action before the looters get just enough of Barry’s redistribution plan to enthusiastically support Dear Leader.

  63. #63
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Is it possible that, in exchange for say $1 trillion from the Chinese government, Obeyme’s so-called economics experts agreed to implode the US solar manufacturers and let the Chinese control the solar market?

    It’s more than possible at the rate Obeyme’s moving the economy, the Chinese simply will want to control everything.

  64. #64
    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:56 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI SKYE_PUPPY–#40. Thanks for the compare mode trick. The price really looks a lot worse in the linear mode. I don’t know why any financial data would be presented in a logarithmic mode. That was always reserved for radio and radar data, and for astronomical stuff where it makes sense–where minimum and maximum values vary by many orders of magnitude.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  65. #65
    On March 6th, 2012 at 3:04 pm, Captain Blasto said:

    I have spent some time in China. I minored in Chinese and speak it pretty well. The Chinese are just not realizing what they’ve done. We’re feeling the effects in higher gas prices but there is much more to come. They have always envied the West and their new found economic power is allowing them to begin to emulate us.
    That genie cannot be put back into the bottle.
    The workers are demanding more and more goods like DVR’s, cars, and all the things we take for granted. This will push their wage demands higher.
    My friends in Shanghai tell me you can feel the stress in their society. The push back their government is going to feel when they price themselves out of the cheap labor market is going to make Tianamen square look like a summer picnic.
    All markets have a point of equilibrium. The Chinese are finding that out now.

  66. #66
    On March 6th, 2012 at 3:17 pm, mrt721 said:

    Guess who’s reading Complete Colorado? Lots of busy bees at the White House. Hello!

    I see Comcast Cable, the owners of MSNBC, just happened to stop by, too.

  67. #67
    On March 6th, 2012 at 3:19 pm, max said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:45 pm, letget said:
    O/T. Here is a fyi for parents and g-parents who have small children. If you have them in your home, you might want to get rid of them?

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-buckyballs-37-20120306,0,1818921.story
    L

    Definitely! And maybe I’ll use their vacant little rooms for a bunch more Bucky Balls! ;)

  68. #68
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:02 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Mister P:

    Sorry, brother, but only an idiot keeps going on and on and on and on about RP and a third party, when plenty of people here have shown him IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN.

    Furthermore, only somebody who’s insane can’t seem to grasp the concept of: getting rid of Obowtome is THE FIRST STEP towards saving the country. By his lack of answers to simple questions, Phil shows his true colors: He’s either insane or a plant.

    I’m caucusing in about 5 hours. I don’t care what the idiot pollsters say, I’ll do my darn best to make sure Santorum’s the winner tonight.

  69. #69
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:07 pm, RedDog said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 2:49 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    …. It’s more than possible at the rate Obeyme’s moving the economy, the Chinese simply will want to control everything.

    At this point we are literally in a national security crisis. This level of incompetence and malfeasance demands impeachment hearings. America does not have years to turn this around. We barely have months.

  70. #70
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:28 pm, madshark said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm, Mister P said:
    You are being unfair to Phil. He is expressing his opinions. You have every right to vote for who you like. All of us do. I am with Phil in that I do not believe the “hold your nose” philosophy of voting for the lesser of two evils. That philosophy does not work. It creates candidates like Mc Cain. Yes we have projected all evil unto Obama, but the evil is the Progressive Movement. We need to shift from a person as a target to a movement. The movement has many Republicans who will keep it going unfortunately. At least that is what Phil and I think.

    So instead of insults we need to have assurances that somehow Romney is different. I am not hearing those assurances. Instead I am hearing “shut up” and follow the party line.

    Very well put. Expresses my sentiments, also.

  71. #71
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:32 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    RedDog:

    demands impeachment hearings.

    Keep dreaming. How many times I have to say:

    Calling for impeachment is a waste of time and energy. Not gonna happen. Not with 53 lapdogs in the Senate. Concentrate on defeating Obowtome, and getting Tea Party people into Congress.

    Geez, is that so difficult to understand?

  72. #72
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:36 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:32 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Geez, is that so difficult to understand?

    Q: How many Senators would have to be, uh, umm….executed by patriots before they saw the writing on the wall and cleaned up their acts?

    I’m not advocating violence, of course. Anticipating violence….sure.

  73. #73
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:36 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    madshark:

    If I’m following the party line, then why I’m voting for Santorum tonight?

    Just because I don’t have my head up my ass, like some here do, doesn’t mean I’m an Establishment Man.

  74. #74
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:40 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Hangfire:

    To answer you hypothetical question, I’d say…. at least 10.

    I’m anticipating violence too. It’ll make Greece look like a Fourth of July picnic.

  75. #75
    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 4:40 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    To answer you hypothetical question, I’d say…. at least 10.

    Probably. Maybe less, 6 say, if done all at once on the same day.

  76. #76
    On March 6th, 2012 at 5:09 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Sock Puppets Press Conference:
    “Hey look, its me – hey everyone look at me, here I am look at me. Hey, its me look over here, here I am, look at me….”
    What a freaking kid..

  77. #77
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:24 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Once Romney wins the nomination, he will switch gears to “You think YOU hate Republicans?!” mode. That’s what he did in MA. Ask any MA commenter.

    You noseholders are your own worst enemies. You pledge your vote to the GOP establishment long before the primaries even start and then focus 99% of your energy badgering those of us who want to make the GOP earn our votes to follow your example in throwing our voices away. Then once your liberal Democrat candidate loses to the mother ship’s liberal Democrat candidate, you blame us.

    You noseholders should have your voting privileges revoked until you can pass a test proving that you understand what elections are for. You guys have so dumbed down GOP primaries that Democrat voters now get to pick the nominees for “both” parties. You keep voting for liberal Democrats while blaming conservatives like me because liberal Democrats keep getting elected. Stop voting for liberal Democrats and things will change! Complicated isn’t it?

    GOP = RIP

    LO3E in 2012

  78. #78
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:54 pm, conservative hispanic said:

    Pasadena Phil:

    Once again, you prove you’re an imbecile. Tonight’s ID caucus is CLOSED, YOU NITWIT!!!

    You’re truly a demonrat plant. Before you start talking crap about the rest of us, go fix California.

  79. #79
    On March 6th, 2012 at 6:55 pm, ChapBix said:

    #43. On March 6th, 2012 at 12:44 pm, gus said:

    Pasadena Phil,
    I too am an independent Conservative, but when you say there is little difference between the 2 parties, it’s like saying
    CANCER and a COLD are both illnesses.
    The LIBTARD PARTY is sick. Very sick.

    And very evil. Sadly, it is not fatal.

  80. #80
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:04 pm, ChapBix said:

    #45. On March 6th, 2012 at 12:46 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Some prominent, and not so prominent, Dems have made rumblings about that very point over the past few years. I seem to remember Barney Franks floated the idea of seizing 401K’s or some other pensions funds. In return, they were going to offer some choice of payment. As I recall, and I admit my memory is fuzzy on this, funds left in one’s account would not be available to pass on to heirs as is currently the case. Perhaps some of you in the securities field may remember this and the details surrounding it.

  81. #81
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:25 pm, Hiraghm said:

    On March 6th, 2012 at 12:44 pm, gus said:

    Pasadena Phil,
    I too am an independent Conservative, but when you say there is little difference between the 2 parties, it’s like saying
    CANCER and a COLD are both illnesses.
    The LIBTARD PARTY is sick. Very sick.

    Pardon the pun.

    A better analogy would be cancer and leprosy. Both will kill you, both lead to an ugly death; one is much, much slower, but death is just as inevitable.

  82. #82
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:46 pm, Hiraghm said:

    Maybe the gov’t should invest in a Stirling Hot Air Engine for powering Washington DC and environs…

  83. #83
    On March 6th, 2012 at 7:52 pm, Hiraghm said:
  84. #84
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:06 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    “Hopefully at the end of that time period we will bring people back,” said Steve Abely, Abound’s Chief Financial Officer, to the Boulder Daily Camera.

    “It’s seed money that’s going to be fully paid back by Abound.”

    It’s never a good sign when your go-forward marketing plan includes the word “hopefully.” Nope, this is another $400M that has found its way into the hands of Obama cronies somewhere. None of it will be paid back.

  85. #85
    On March 6th, 2012 at 8:18 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Hey Obowmao, just because your father called you son, doesn’t mean you’re bright! Stop wasting our tax dollars on solar boondoggles!

  86. #86
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:03 pm, gmatt2003 said:

    Michelle, are you giving up on Santorum? Why no new columns re-endorsing him? Santorum has won Oklahoma and Tennessee, and is currently tied for the lead in Ohio.

    Just wondering…

  87. #87
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:05 pm, gmatt2003 said:

    Santorum now leading in Ohio with 21% in.

  88. #88
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:08 pm, Raider109 said:

    Deliverance II Santorum wins Oklahoma and Tennessee. We just need some banjos.

  89. #89
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:32 pm, Raider109 said:

    “Squeal like a pig.” Newt and Paul get out.

  90. #90
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:39 pm, Raider109 said:

    I do apologize for the previous statements pertaining to the Deliverance. I got carried away.

  91. #91
    On March 6th, 2012 at 9:59 pm, Savage24 said:

    In this day and age, all it takes to become a millionaire in the alternative energy field is a friend in this corrupt administration.

  92. #92
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:34 pm, gmatt2003 said:

    Raider109 – WTF? Are you saying people of Oklahoma and Tennessee are stupid rednecks? Or worse (i.e. the movie “Deliverance”)

    You are one sick individual.

  93. #93
    On March 6th, 2012 at 10:39 pm, gmatt2003 said:

    Raider109 – Apology somewhat accepted. I live in Wisconsin by the way, so can’t accept an apology on behalf of Oklahomans or Tennesseans.

  94. #94
    On March 7th, 2012 at 12:09 am, cabrerski said:

    Funny how the sustainable energy market cannot sustain jobs.

  95. #95
    On March 7th, 2012 at 3:39 am, PunditPete said:

    If you live near Denver, come to our protest of a solar panel boondoggle at the Denver Federal Center, this Saturday, 1-3 PM.

    Here is the event info.

    Thanks Michelle for helping expose the “Colorado Solyndra”. You are invited too!

  96. #96
    On March 7th, 2012 at 11:24 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI PUNDIT_PETE–#95. I think I’m getting a whiff of some TEA being brewed up in the Mile High city. Keep up the good work!
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  97. #97
    On March 7th, 2012 at 12:05 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    This level of incompetence and malfeasance demands impeachment hearings. America does not have years to turn this around. We barely have months.

    At some lower levels, yes it is incompetence and malfeasance, deliberately planned that way, but you can be sure that those at the highest level of authority, in or behind the scenes, who are actually running the criminal enterprises known as the Obama Administration and the democrat party, and much of the lsm ownership, are fully competent in what they are working to achieve.

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